Disabled and Data-Blocked Apps still sending data in the background - Moto E4 Plus Questions & Answers

Edit: I posted this question two days ago in the general Q & A section of XDA, got no response. Since it is happening on my E4 plus, I am posting it here, hoping to get some insights.
Long story short, I installed Net Monitor (from Play store) to check data usage on my Moto E4 Plus (Verizon), though the question below is probably not limited to this particular device.
I was surprised to see some of the apps that were sending data somewhere even when they are disabled. For example,
1, Gboard (by Google), this app has been disabled in Settings since the beginning. Why is it still sending data? Worst nightmare is an app collecting keyboard entry log and upload it to where??? Why???
2, Some Apps, such as below, I have disabled their background data usage, but they still show up in Net Monitor.
Astro File Manager (an old version that I love to use),
ML Manager,
Photos (by Google)
Youtube
I am sure I did not use these apps during the time that Net Monitor was running as I was testing the whole concept of Net Monitor.
[Edit: I can confirm that these apps show up without me running them in forefront.]
I can understand some communication apps such as Gmail that uses data because I did not block their background data usage.
Some of the apps in the screenshot are presumably system apps though I am a bit suspicious. Knowing recent cases with One Plus and Blu, and Elliot Anderson:
https://www.androidpit.com/elliot-fs...rson-interview
I just wish some experts can help explain or provide some insights, thank you in advance,
BTW, can someone recommend clean Open Source apps that do not abuse permissions and do not send data secretly behind the users? I got a few, but need more. My app sources:
https://www.secuso.informatik.tu-dar...friendly-apps/
https://simplemobiletools.github.io/
https://guardianproject.info/apps/

Disabling apps does't really do much but keep them from updating. I suggest that you use the Amazon Fire trick, I use this for every Android device that I don't root.
- To restore apps you simply factory reset.
- This doesn't uninstall apps, but blocks the app so they don't run.
-- Connect Device
Enable USB debugging in developers options
Code:
adb shell
-- List Apps
Code:
pm list packages
Alternatively, you can search for packages by name
-- Example
Code:
pm list packages amazon
-- Disable Apps
Code:
pm uninstall -k --user 0 [COLOR="Red"]"package name"[/COLOR]

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[Q] Disable/remove specific system apps: What's New/Google Settings (No root)

Hey everyone. Just signed up so hopefully this is the right sub-forum for this question.
Amazing forum by the way. I've been visiting here frequently since getting my Z3 Compact and you guys have been a massive help so far. You've really helped to improve the functionality of my device and streamline the software so thank you. Now on to the question I want to ask. I recently installed Wondershare Mobile Go. The application was a huge help in removing certain apps (basically all the bloatware that Sony's stock Android firmware comes with). In addition to that I used the disable trick to disable most of the apps thus hiding them from the app drawer. As a result my phone is almost complete in terms of getting it to the point where I want it (only the apps I want to use; everything else rendered either disabled, hidden or uninstalled).
I recently however hit a roadblock. The apps I'm having trouble with are predominantly What's New, Google Settings and also an app called Downloads. I can't seem to uninstall or disable those apps. They're the only three remaining that I want removed or hidden from the app drawer. Now I've already researched this on the XDA forums and have already tried the ADB trick. I tried that last night and it made no difference. I used the Hide command (as I'm running Android 5.0.2) and it had no effect. I must have rebooted my phone four or five times running the commands each time and What's New just would not shift. I know the fastest and easiest way around this is to just root my phone and manually uninstall the software but I only just got my Z3 Compact and I really don't want to void the warranty.
Is there an easy mechanism in which to hide, disable or uninstall the three aforementioned apps? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Whats going on? Virus, Trojan, PUA? Please help and find a result

Hello, dear XDA users.
Yesterday morning (08/04/2016) I have tested some applications from the PlayStore.
Now I have the following problem: After some time (usually shortly after unlock) pops up a graph. This can only be removed by clicking and starts (originally) the PlayStore. Meanwhile it tries to launch a browser, which you can then cancel. This one I should install (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.quick.clean).
Well I tried to track down the malicious software. But the virus scanner offered can not really help here. Supposedly there is a PUA - a Potentially Unwanted App. (Android Ewind (Adware)
First, the file is: Search Service Version 2:00:51 my Oukitel K6000 be infested per Sophos can not remove and it seems in reality an original app from Oukitel to be..
Trend Micro means, it was up to "Calls Blacklist Pro" which I use without problems for years. Here also comes the Note: PUA - AndroidOS_SMsreg.AXBCB.
Can anyone tell what I've captured me as me?
How do I get rid of the back?
What apps can plant something?
Thank you in advance.
Your Dr-Kimble
Ok this can sound nooby but have you checked under settings>apps (all, running and downloaded section) for some apps that you downloaded on that day. Try uninstalling them if they are present. Many apps ask you to make them device administrator and refuse to uninstall. Check under Settings>security>device administrators for apps that shouldn't be given this much privilege (android device manager, greenify etc. are fine but a live wallpaper or a game is not). Check Settings>accessibility. Under services section, uncheck any suspicious apps (you can disable all of them, then enable them one by one to detect which is causing it).
And for the last, if you have developer settings turned on you can check process stats too.
Broadcasted from Zeta Reticuli
I have found and delete: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68056047&postcount=105

Huawei P10 killing apps that use the GPS (ignoring any settings)

Since a few weeks ago I noticed that my Huawei P10 is aggressively killing any apps that use the GPS after locking the screen.
My EMUI & Android versions are both 8.0.0.
The apps I tried:
- OsmAnd - which I use to trace my walks and improve OSM with the data
- Komoot - which is an app to track your hikes and add photos, etc
- Graticule - which lets you share your location in realtime
What I tried:
1. Bringing up the task manager, locking the lock above the app.
2. Settings -> Battery -> Launch
* 'Manage all automatically' unchecked
* <App Name> unchecked then check all options on 'Manage manually' screen (Auto-launch, Secondary launch and Run in background)
3. Settings -> Apps & notifications -> Apps -> Settings (cog at the bottom of the screen) -> Special access -> Ignore battery optimisation
* Added the apps to the 'Allowed' list
Regardless of the three things above after locking the screen in 5 to 10 minutes the app is killed. I think this is a bug in Huawei's implementation but their support is impossible to contact. I tried repeatedly and received no answer.
This is very frustrating because it used to work until a short time ago. I'm thinking about a factory reset and if that doesn't solve the issue I will be selling the phone because unfortunately this is a deal breaker for me.
Anyone experiencing the same problems? Any solutions? Suggestions?
Also tried formatting the cache partition, didn't help. If I'll have time during the weekend I'll do a factory reset.
I had the same problem with Strava, on an older version.
adb shell pm disable-user com.huawei.powergenie
If you want it back: adb shell pm enable com.huawei.powergenie
Powergenie is to limit battery usage, and it's too aggressive to kill app services.
Thank you for the response.
I did a hard reset and deactivated powergenie as instructed above and the problem still persists.
I can't describe how disappointed I am. I will be putting up the phone for sale.
What I don't understand is: am I the only one having the problem? I don't see other people complaining or they complained about older versions whereas for me it was the other way around. It worked fine until a few months ago and now it doesn't.
I am having this problem with Honor 7x and Runtastic Pro
Battery--settings icon--keep mobile data on?
---------- Post added at 02:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:39 PM ----------
Phone manager--settings--turn off smart tune-up?
Did someone already solve this problem.
Hi,
I have the same gps recording problems om my Huawei P10Plus. On 8.0.0 android.
Did someone already found a solution. Huawei support can't offer smart ideas.
Pieterdv said:
Hi,
I have the same gps recording problems om my Huawei P10Plus. On 8.0.0 android.
Did someone already found a solution. Huawei support can't offer smart ideas.
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Hey, had this problem with running app runtastic, so when device promted, I switched in app settings to manual and allowed background running.
After that app was running fine.
I have the same problem with latest release.
Afaik there is no way to prevent huawei from doing this by simply factory reseting. It is not depending on a temporaly bug obviously it is a feature.
I think this was the same problem while VLC blacklisted Huawei devices in the google play store from compatible devices.
Some months ago they said they will make a deal with Huawei... No news about this until today.
And komoot has a topic in their development forum about but still open since many months.
http://support.komoot.de/forums/164264-ideen/suggestions/14366967Sobald es
And GPS apps are not the only ones. I've tried some apps to play local music from the phone on google chromecast. Mostly they stop playing after one music track. I think this is also regarding to the huawei problem with safing energy to aggressively.
Last but not least there are apps that don't have any problems with it. For example Google Maps, Huawei Apps, Whatsapp any much more. So there seem to be a whitelist to the powerengine.
strange.. i have no issue with strava, endomondo, google maps, soundcloud, spotify, google music ...thats the one i tested.
I use endomondo, google maps, soundlcoud and spotify almost everyday without any issues.
Maybe its just that i use the whitelisted apps.
I am on stock B379 C432 firmware.
Solution
We had the same issue in our app. The solution in our app was to change the setting in Settings
Settings->Apps & notifications->Apps-><your app>->Battery
Set App launch to 'Manage manually'
Auto-launch - activated
Secondary launch - activated
Run in background - activated
kitsched said:
Since a few weeks ago I noticed that my Huawei P10 is aggressively killing any apps that use the GPS after locking the screen.
My EMUI & Android versions are both 8.0.0.
The apps I tried:
- OsmAnd - which I use to trace my walks and improve OSM with the data
- Komoot - which is an app to track your hikes and add photos, etc
- Graticule - which lets you share your location in realtime
What I tried:
1. Bringing up the task manager, locking the lock above the app.
2. Settings -> Battery -> Launch
* 'Manage all automatically' unchecked
* <App Name> unchecked then check all options on 'Manage manually' screen (Auto-launch, Secondary launch and Run in background)
3. Settings -> Apps & notifications -> Apps -> Settings (cog at the bottom of the screen) -> Special access -> Ignore battery optimisation
* Added the apps to the 'Allowed' list
Regardless of the three things above after locking the screen in 5 to 10 minutes the app is killed. I think this is a bug in Huawei's implementation but their support is impossible to contact. I tried repeatedly and received no answer.
This is very frustrating because it used to work until a short time ago. I'm thinking about a factory reset and if that doesn't solve the issue I will be selling the phone because unfortunately this is a deal breaker for me.
Anyone experiencing the same problems? Any solutions? Suggestions?
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Goto Phone Manager touch power saving->Optimize.Phone Manager will rapidly identify apps or features that are rapidly drainning the battery.Touch the Optimize button net to each or feartures to disable it and start saving power.You can touch Recover to re-enable the app or feature.When you remove an app from the protected apps list,your phone will close the app automatically when you turn off the screen to save batterry.
Has this been fixed?
This was always the big issue with my P10 in that Apps that I wanted to always run kept being killed until I found this article https://dontkillmyapp.com/huawei?app=Tasker which refered to https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-20-pro/themes/remove-powergenie-to-allow-background-t3890409
after removing powergenie with adb shell pm uninstall --user 0 com.huawei.powergenie I have had no more issues with applications being killed.

get rid of andriod spyware

hello with the new way of these phones andriod and others plus spyware .im wondering how do i know what apps samsung etc are spying on my phone maybe uploading my numbers and other infor without me knowing any of you guys got any idea whats the best way to stop it. tbh i hate even google assist even turning on by itself even when i diable it
Hello, first of all, please write in easily readable sentences, that way more people are going to help you.
Second, it is important to be and stay suspicious of the software you use, especially with android. But you shouldn't be worried too much as most of the data that is sent from your phone isn't sent with "evil intentions" or anything like that, it is often rather aggressive diagnostics.
Warning! The following paragraphs are filled with very radical means of removing suspected spyware! Almost all of these require root and knowledge in modding your Android! Beware!
As to how you can spot "spyware" or suspected spyware, there isn't one easy way.
First of all, you could use a custom ROM, so that your system is more open source and there isn't any suspected spyware (or any "ware" at all) from Samsung.
To go one step further, you could try to live without Google services:
Use a different search engine, for example DuckDuckGo or any other really
Use Firefox or any non-Chromium browser
Instead of using opengapps to install Google Play Services (when you install a custom ROM) you could use the replacement project "microG" (microg.org).
Get as many apps as you can from Open source app stores (F-Droid)
Don't use the official Play Store unless you really have to - it is a power hungry data collecting app (that can theoretically install any app without asking, just like the Google Play Services or any other /system/priv-app app with proper permissions) - Alternative for installing Play Store apps: Aurora Store
Replace Google Maps with OpenStreetMap (OSMand)
Use a anonymous YouTube client, for example NewPipe
etc.
These are of course only suggestions, I don't recommend doing them all at once, but if you really don't want any unnecessary data sent from your phone, these are the first steps.
For actually seeing which apps send what data you could either analyze the app bytecode with App Warden or look at all detailed permissions with AppOpsX.
Methods to neutralize spyware are rejecting the permission for the app to use internet access or even run in the background, disabling the suspected app or removing it with system app removers.
Be very careful with actually disabling or removing system apps! Many system apps are needed for the system to work and one can easily misjudge an app by its description and diagnostics! Before disabling an app you should research whether anyone else knows anything about the app and only remove it if you are really sure about it. You have been warned.

Question [CLOSED]Hidden google apps

I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
Tom100% said:
I recently found some hidden google apps on my Zenfone 8 that I had not heard about before...
Settings > Apps & notifications > See all apps > click 3 dots upper right corner of screen "Show system".....
I uninstalled these that I don't have a use for:
Companion Device Manager
Basic Daydreams
Google Assistant
Syndor Flipfont
And I force stopped many other apps (that could not be uninstalled) that I didn't see a use for.
There were other apps that I disabled wi-fi and mobile connections to.
I also use Netguard to control which apps have internet and mobile access. However Netguard shows vastly more system apps that I have no idea what they do - I leave these alone. It the moment I'm only trying to reduce the amount of surveillance built into a normal android phone.
I haven't heard of a published an up-to-date rundown of system apps that have no business sending data out of the phone? I know you can just disable all data out connections using Netguard and then spend the rest of your life figuring out which ones to enable to get a useable phone. Perhaps such a list is impractical as it may have to be tailored to each phone and OS? But there might be system apps common to recent android systems that could have the wi-fi and mobile data disabled?
Anything would help if I didn't have to fiddle around so much. The alternative is a degoogled phone. Many google play apps can work on these but there are several important ones I use that don't work and so far I have found no viable open source apps to replace them.
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Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
Adaoh said:
Maybe the apps that are not available are accessible as a web app? I personally never encountered an app that does not work on Lineage and OmniRom (currently on onmirom). Maybe thats because of MicroG. A bonus to roms is better battery life, I think thank to MicroG
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Can you use Waze and google translate? I've tried the open source alternative to Waze but in the country I'm living in it's too clunky to use. I haven't found an open source alternative to translate (that can scan documents and items in the supermarket, translate them and do all the other things. I might buy a degoogled phone in the future as I don't want to get into the technicalities.
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