Note 4 vs Note8 Charger - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Hey all.
Just wanted to ask a question. I lost my Note 8 charger, the output seems to be identical on Note 4 and Note8 chargers.
Is there an issue if I use Note 4 charger to charge my Note8 ?
Regards!

Snake_A said:
Hey all.
Just wanted to ask a question. I lost my Note 8 charger, the output seems to be identical on Note 4 and Note8 chargers.
Is there an issue if I use Note 4 charger to charge my Note8 ?
Regards!
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Nope. It will just charge slower.

Mr. Orange 645 said:
Nope. It will just charge slower.
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Wasn't the Note 4 fast charging as well? If output is the same, why would it be slower?
OP, you will need to use the appropriate adapter included with your note 8 to plug the older charger into the new usb-c plug on the Note 8.

I'm using my note 4 charger with my note 8 and no issues. It takes about 1 hrs and a half to charge full (I have the fast charge turned off ).
Only reason for the note 4 charger because I bought the note 8 international version and I can't use the power brick here. And yes the voltage is the same on both chargers.

note 4 was the first iteration of quick charge.
We aren't on the first iteration anymore

BluePhnx said:
I'm using my note 4 charger with my note 8 and no issues. It takes about 1 hrs and a half to charge full (I have the fast charge turned off ).
Only reason for the note 4 charger because I bought the note 8 international version and I can't use the power brick here. And yes the voltage is the same on both chargers.
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You can always use a standard travel adapter with the original power plug too if you ever need it.

Am i missing something ? Bothe Note 4 and Note8 support Quick Charge 2.0. The specs of the charger are exactly the same , so I guess the chargers are identical !

Snake_A said:
Am i missing something ? Bothe Note 4 and Note8 support Quick Charge 2.0. The specs of the charger are exactly the same , so I guess the chargers are identical !
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Your not missing anything and correct. I hate how Note 8 is not 3.0. My brothers v30 is 3.0 wtf? Step up your game samsung!

Nick216ohio said:
Your not missing anything and correct. I hate how Note 8 is not 3.0. My brothers v30 is 3.0 wtf? Step up your game samsung!
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Because Samsung scared, even the battery capacity has been reduced...

I plugged a usb 2 to C adapter onto my old Note 5 charger (rather the one that came with the original Fast Charge wireless puck charger) and with this my Note 8 will not fast charge.
The wireless fast charging works on the old puck though.

Kalm_Traveler said:
I plugged a usb 2 to C adapter onto my old Note 5 charger (rather the one that came with the original Fast Charge wireless puck charger) and with this my Note 8 will not fast charge.
The wireless fast charging works on the old puck though.
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It might be the cable

Snake_A said:
It might be the cable
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could be, I tried the Samsung cable that came with it, and a Blackberry-branded USB 2.0 cable that I had laying around, same result.

Snake_A said:
It might be the cable
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It might be the ****ty adaptor micro usb to USB C that's the problem. I've tried a few and some work, some don't
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Is Note charger same as Galaxy S2 charger?

Hi,
Getting an EU version of the Note, so I need to buy a Uk charger, is the charger for the Note and Galaxy S2 compatible? Thinking buying a 3rd party Galaxy S2 charger on ebay.
Many thanks
I suspect any 5v microusb charger delivering over 0.5A will be fine.
Expansys sent me a standard HTC one (5v 1A) with my german note and I am in the UK.
Thanks, I have a couple of generic USB wall chargers at home, so might as will use them with the Note.
I can't answer the question directly, but that big screen, fast processor and larger battery are going to take a bit more juice than your average phone, including the S2. When it comes to mains chargers that may not be a big deal, unless you leave the phone active while charging, but might become an important consideration if trying to use the phone for satnav in the car, for example.
At the moment I'm using an Orange San Francisco. That has a 3.5" OLED screen and a 600MHz single core processor, so hardly an energy guzzler. The supplied charger is rated at .7A. In the car, when using satnav, my generic USB car charger cannot quite keep pace with the energy demands of that little phone and the battery level actually drops slowly while connected to power in the car. I'm definitely going to be looking for something more robust for the Note.
Note charger is 1 amp, Nexus S .7 amp, Note charges fine off the .7 amp charger.
I assume a standard Samsung GS charger would do, the output on it is 0.7A?
tdodd said:
When it comes to mains chargers that may not be a big deal, unless you leave the phone active while charging, but might become an important consideration if trying to use the phone for satnav in the car, for example.
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Surprise, my car charger was not good enough for the S2 while using nav software, but the Note charges nicely.
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So could I use my Samsung Galaxy S charger with my note (that I will order soon) or shall I purchase this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Cha...KQU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320872764&sr=8-1
... the above is 1000mA... is that enough?
Or should I just purchase a Euro/Worldwide adapter to UK plug?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Travel-Adap.../dp/B000P0FIUM/ref=dp_cp_ob_computers_title_0
Gede said:
Surprise, my car charger was not good enough for the S2 while using nav software, but the Note charges nicely.
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You not only need a charger that can deliver more oomph, but also a lead or charger, possibly modified, that will allow the phone to draw that current. I have 1A USB chargers for the car but a regular data/charging lead only permits the phone to charge at the standard USB maximum current of 0.5A. I had to open up one of my chargers and solder the two centre pins together. Shorting those two pins signals to the phone that it can draw the full "mains" current rather than the 0.5A USB maximum.
I haven't yet charged the Note in the car, but on my previous phone the charging status would show "Charging (USB)" prior to the mod and once modded it would show "charging (AC)", which is what you need to keep the phone charged and charging while in use rather than slowly depleting.
jUsT2eXy said:
So could I use my Samsung Galaxy S charger with my note (that I will order soon) or shall I purchase this
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Adapter-Cha...KQU2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1320872764&sr=8-1
... the above is 1000mA... is that enough?
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Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.
I have used the 2 amp charger of my galaxy tab 10.1.
I have the impression this charges my note noticably fatster.
Super Chimp said:
Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.
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1 amp is good..same as the GS2, i believe... so , yes- the GS2 charger should work on the Note
Kibosh3 said:
1 amp is good..same as the GS2, i believe... so , yes- the GS2 charger should work on the Note
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I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.
adapter
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?
Super Chimp said:
Same inquiry as me. Thanks for those links by the way.
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Thing is would the USB cable that comes with the note (designed for computers) be suitable in carrying 1000mAh?
I heard that USB cables that come with phones are 0.5mAh so it won't make use of the 1000mAh...
Can anyone confirm this? If so then it's better to buy an out and out 1000mAh plus wall charger or a worldwide travel adapter.
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dennishhh said:
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?
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That's also what I want to know.
There is no reason why it wouldn't work. It's just like going on holiday... US plugs to Euro/UK etc
So that's the route I will end up taking. But I may purchase an out and out 1000mAh wall plug anyway... even a 2000mAh...
jUsT2eXy said:
Thing is would the USB cable that comes with the note (designed for computers) be suitable in carrying 1000mAh?
I heard that USB cables that come with phones are 0.5mAh so it won't make use of the 1000mAh...
Can anyone confirm this? If so then it's better to buy an out and out 1000mAh plus wall charger or a worldwide travel adapter.
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I am 20000000% sure it can such a low current.
( Just think , would samsung bundle a cable that does not support the charger )
drgopoos said:
I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.
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strange... my SGS2 came with a 1 amp ... i'm not complaining
drgopoos said:
I can confirm that SGS2 charger works on note. However charging is slow ( its 0.7 A )
However the note charger ( 1.0 A) charges faster
dont have a 2 A charger to test but I would say that it would be the same speed as 1 A charger.
If we want faster charging, we will need the kernel to modified.
The downside would be shorter battery life.
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Sounds like it might be worth getting an EU to UK plug adaptor then.
dennishhh said:
Would it work to get an adapter from the European plug that comes with the note to US outlet?
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yes it will work fine, because the charger accepts 100-220vac 50/60Hz
The Samsung power adaptor that comes with the Note is a Universal one (110 Volts - 240 Volts) and is rated at 5 Volts 1 Amp output.
If you need an alternative for some reason (or a spare).........
Personally, I am using a generic iPad mains adaptor with dual USB sockets. The device was made in China and has a total current output of up to 2 Amps. It is a also a worldwide model. I think it charges faster than the Samsung charger.
It also charges the Note when using the MHL>HDMI output. I have read some postings that the Note very slowly loses charge when the MHL>HDMI adaptor (which has to be externally powered) is in use. With this 2A adaptor, it continues to charge.
You could also try the Genuine iPad adaptor that also works worldwide and delivers a genuine 1 Amp rather than some of the cheapie models that struggle to supply that current.

super charging

has anyone noticed that the note 4 charges in about 1 hr to 1.5 hours max to fully charged? i have or is something up for it charging so fast?
Standard feature on the Note 4. If u look ad the adapter it's putting out 9 volts.
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do you think we will see problems in future with batteries needing to be replaced sooner because of this fast charging
I turned off my fast charging option.
Yean I appreciate the superb fast charging. Is it bad to use my older note3 chargers as spares on the go?
re: Note 4 fast chargers
Amd4life said:
Yean I appreciate the superb fast charging. Is it bad to use my older note3 chargers as spares on the go?
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It's not bad at all, you can still use any cell phone charger to charge the Note 4
just like we have done when we had the Note 3.
The thing I am wondering about is if can safely use the new Note 4 wall charger
to charge other peripherals like mice, keyboards, wireless headsets and so on.
I used to use the samsung S3, S4 and note 3's wall charger to charge lot's of things.
Misterjunky said:
It's not bad at all, you can still use any cell phone charger to charge the Note 4
just like we have done when we had the Note 3.
The thing I am wondering about is if can safely use the new Note 4 wall charger
to charge other peripherals like mice, keyboards, wireless headsets and so on.
I used to use the samsung S3, S4 and note 3's wall charger to charge lot's of things.
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The batteries are chipped. Phones are chipped. And even the adapter has a chip. You can use your note 4 charger to charge any device. It just won't give the full output as other devices will tell it not to. etc.etc.
Thread moved to Q&A where it should have been posted originally - please post in the correct sections, thanks.

The cable for the Galaxy Note 3 the same as the Note 5?

note 5 cable
cannot find where to get a second cable for my note 5. I am coming from a note 3 so I know that cable is different but what about the note 4 cable, is it the same? Thanks
me just saying said:
cannot find where to get a second cable for my note 5. I am coming from a note 3 so I know that cable is different but what about the note 4 cable, is it the same? Thanks
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Just checked same charger
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me just saying said:
cannot find where to get a second cable for my note 5. I am coming from a note 3 so I know that cable is different but what about the note 4 cable, is it the same? Thanks
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Yes the note 4 cable will be the same. Any standard micro usb should work but if you want Samsung specific Amazon has them on the cheap. The Note 3 is only different because of the USB 3.0 but actually a standard micro USB cable will work on the Note 3 as well. But again, virtually any store that sells phones or computer peripherals should have cables that will work.
Yes any micro USB cable will work. However, if you want to charge your battery with quick charge 2.0/adaptive fast charge then you need a cable with thicker gauge wire.

USB-C limited to USB 2.0 transfer speeds?

I have tried 'A1 SD Bench' to test my Note 8 with a 512GB Samsung T3 SSD.
The best results I can get is:
Read: 33.42MB/s
Write: 35.57MB/s
I have tried the following connections:
- Direct USB-C to USB-C
- Note 8 <-> USB-C all-in-one hub <-> USB-A to USB-C cable <-> Samsung T3 SSD
- Note 8 <-> Original Samsung USB-C to USB-A female <-> USB-A to USB-C cable <-> Samsung T3 SSD
Any ideas how to get full USB 3.1 transfer speeds?
From what I understand, I might be wrong, but I read that the USB type c port on the Note 8 is USB 2.0
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jcip17 said:
From what I understand, I might be wrong, but I read that the USB type c port on the Note 8 is USB 2.0
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It's actually USB 3.1, you're probably thinking of the fast charge version which is vs 2.0
louforgiveno said:
It's actually USB 3.1, you're probably thinking of the fast charge version which is vs 2.0
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Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
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jcip17 said:
Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
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It charges slow but it's very consistent at temperature management. The device does not heat up like the ones using other fast charge technologies. I just read a comparison article and Samsung's version is definitely not the fastest, but it's definitely one of the cooler ones.
Fast Charge Comparison
odesskiy said:
It charges slow but it's very consistent at temperature management. The device does not heat up like the ones using other fast charge technologies. I just read a comparison article and Samsung's version is definitely not the fastest, but it's definitely one of the cooler ones.
Fast Charge Comparison
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I* skimmed through that but Samsung fast charge is exynos correct?
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IIRC from another thread, the USB-C cable that comes in the box is a USB 2.0 cable. Maybe try a different one?
jcip17 said:
Hey Lou! Ok thanks for the correction! The phone charges pretty slow compared to our note 4... That's one of my big gripes
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Oh no, that's terrible!! Cause my note 7 is the fastest charging phone I've ever had and to hear it's slower than the note 4 damn....note 7 charge from 15% to full in about 35-45 minutes....maybe less never timed it but love how i can forget to charge overnight, wake up plug in and its done by the time I'm out of the shower......ugh
louforgiveno said:
Oh no, that's terrible!! Cause my note 7 is the fastest charging phone I've ever had and to hear it's slower than the note 4 damn....note 7 charge from 15% to full in about 35-45 minutes....maybe less never timed it but love how i can forget to charge overnight, wake up plug in and its done by the time I'm out of the shower......ugh
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I hope my phone is defective lol. Can anybody relate? It's about 200 mAh bigger than the note 4's removable battery so maybe that's the increase in time? I feel like any percentage I plug in it's 1hr and change until full, even at 40%*
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Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
cmwade77 said:
Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
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The OP isn't asking about charging speed, he's asking about data transfer over USB.
I have USB 3.0 and 3.1 type A ports on my desktop PC and using a 3.1 Type C to Type A cable it's very clearly much faster than using the cable in the box, which does appear to be usb 2.0 wired.
cmwade77 said:
Huh? I am confused, I find my Note 8 charges faster than any phone I have ever had and that includes the Note 7, really I can go from about 20% to 100% in about 20 minutes or less.
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Wtf my phone is broke
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Wtf my phone is broke
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To be clear you'll only recognize the "fast charge" with screen off. Always on display is fine though.
louforgiveno said:
To be clear you'll only recognize the "fast charge" with screen off. Always on display is fine though.
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Yeah I rarely use my phone when it is charging. I use pushbullet on my computers so I wont miss a text or call. I compare the charging speeds of Note 8 to the Note 4 in the morning charging. The Note 8 will not be charged in an hour whereas the Note 4 easily did it. Sorry OP. I'm done.
That brings the question: how do you tell which cable is really wired for USB 3? And what's the difference? Wires have to be the same, is it just shielding? I would imagine due to higher frequency, if signal is not clear it would negotiate lower transfer rate?
I have couple USB wires from Note 7, maybe those are better made?
And is the phone really capable of accepting data anywhere near full USB 3 speeds?
pete4k said:
That brings the question: how do you tell which cable is really wired for USB 3? And what's the difference? Wires have to be the same, is it just shielding? I would imagine due to higher frequency, if signal is not clear it would negotiate lower transfer rate?
I have couple USB wires from Note 7, maybe those are better made?
And is the phone really capable of accepting data anywhere near full USB 3 speeds?
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Quality cables have the correct USB symble by USB type. Quick Google search will bring up examples
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Beandip-Javier said:
Quality cables have the correct USB symble by USB type. Quick Google search will bring up examples
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One example. There's more examples if you search. Best to also buy from a reputable source.
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I found an article that states USB-C hubs downgrading speeds to USB 2.0 so I guess thats one of the main reasons the DEX is also limited to 2.0 speeds.
https://gtrusted.com/samsung-galaxy-s8-seems-to-downgrade-usb-3-1-hubs-speeds
I however cannot get USB 3.1 speeds even when using a direct USB-C to USB-C link.
If the Note 8 is not capable of utilizing the full speed of USB 3.1 speeds then I'm quite disappointed.
One of things I really wanted to do was backup DSLR pics from SD cards to SSD rapidly without a laptop whilst on travel.
Are you using a 3.1 capable cable?
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Are you using a 3.1 capable cable?
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It turns out the USB-C to USB-C cable I got is not usb-3.1 spec:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/d/B06Y4N4K9Z
The USB-C to USB-A cable I got that came with the Samsung T3 SSD is definitely USB3.1 spec so Samsung USB-C to USB-A female adapter is probably USB2.0 speeds.
And according to the article going through a hub also limits the connection to USB2.0 so I'll either need a new USB-C to USB-C 3.0 cable or USB-C to USB-A 3.0 female adapter to do further testing.

Car Fast Charger?

I have 2 car fast chargers.
1. iRAG 36W Dual USB Quick Charge 3.0 Car Charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RQ915H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2. AUKEY Car Charger with 36W Dual Quick Charge 2.0 Port
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0176HA31U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The problem is that they don't consistently work on the Note 8, they both work with my Nexus 6 and S8+. When I plug the Note into either one it will say fast charging for a few seconds and then go to regular slow usb charging. Then 3 times out of 10 they will stay on fast charge. What if anything am I missing? A setting on the Note 8?
TIA
ggrant3876 said:
I have 2 car fast chargers.
1. iRAG 36W Dual USB Quick Charge 3.0 Car Charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073RQ915H/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
2. AUKEY Car Charger with 36W Dual Quick Charge 2.0 Port
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0176HA31U/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
The problem is that they don't consistently work on the Note 8, they both work with my Nexus 6 and S8+. When I plug the Note into either one it will say fast charging for a few seconds and then go to regular slow usb charging. Then 3 times out of 10 they will stay on fast charge. What if anything am I missing? A setting on the Note 8?
TIA
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Will sound crazy, but try a different cable....specifically one that came with the 8.....my story i had a quick charge for my note 7 when i got the 8 and plugged in i got the warning about no fast charge....said screw it and ordered one recommended in the note 8 accessories thread....that one did the same thing....then i thought....wait let me try a new cable, plugged in and boom working (with both chargers).
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louforgiveno said:
Will sound crazy, but try a different cable....specifically one that came with the 8.....my story i had a quick charge for my note 7 when i got the 8 and plugged in i got the warning about no fast charge....said screw it and ordered one recommended in the note 8 accessories thread....that one did the same thing....then i thought....wait let me try a new cable, plugged in and boom working (with both chargers).
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I'll give it a try.
louforgiveno said:
Will sound crazy, but try a different cable....specifically one that came with the 8.....my story i had a quick charge for my note 7 when i got the 8 and plugged in i got the warning about no fast charge....said screw it and ordered one recommended in the note 8 accessories thread....that one did the same thing....then i thought....wait let me try a new cable, plugged in and boom working (with both chargers).
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That was it, thanks. Been bugging me for a while.
ggrant3876 said:
That was it, thanks. Been bugging me for a while.
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Sweet, yeah its frustrating right?!
Well like they say, you always find things in the last place you check ?
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