Note 8 "Rent-a-Center" lock - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

I just bought a "unlocked" note 8 and everything was clean when I checked it and everything works and is activated but when I was scrolling though the settings I saw under "knox" there's a Rent-a-center profile with the contact number and everything on it and had no idea why, So I've been doing research about what it means and a looking for a solution when I found out that the phone is though them and if it's not paid off they can remotely lock you out of it and I want to prevent that from happening because I paid alot of money for this phone! I had another note 8 before this one that i broke the screen on and it was locked to AT&T(which I don't have) so I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do? If anyone has any advice or knows what I should do please let me know!! Thank you!

If you own the phone, ie, paid for it all then I'd go back to where you got it from and tell them to take it off.

Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.

Wow, was curious how much they charge.

OnnoJ said:
Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.
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I already did that and they said it wasn't paid off fully and to contact the person I bought it from which I've already tried but nothing.. That's why I'm looking for a solution now before I get locked out because they said it's only a matter of time before it happens when the store it was rented from shuts it off and then I'm screwed. I didn't even know you could RENT A PHONE !

Limeybastard said:
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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....why would anyone do this.

xbmoyx said:
....why would anything do this.
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For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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Limeybastard said:
For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.

".....I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do?"
No. Root isn't an option in this scenario nor is flashing new firmware.
It appears that Rent-A-Center utilizes a Mobile Device Management solution which, in turn, is dependent on KNOX.
With the current root option for the Snapdragon 835 & Note 8, we don't the ability to alter or remove the partition in question.
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There are services available ONLINE which MIGHT help you; look for yourself.
Even if you were able to remove the lock, they could still blacklist the device for non-payment.
This puts you back at square one.
Talk to Rent-A-Center directly and explain the situation.

Limeybastard said:
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.

Nick216ohio said:
God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.
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The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Guaranteed OP bought an under contract RAC phone. Phone is gonna get locked and op will be SOL.

Sounds to me like the person you bought it from pulled a fast one, phone is probably not even close to being paid off & he sold it.
Like AHE said, even if you were able to remove that RAC lock on it, they can still blacklist if that's the case (phone not being paid off).

xbmoyx said:
For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.
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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.

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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.
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You have good points. But rent a center places are straight up predatory business. If customers credit not able to get phone on payment plan. Then straight out deny them. For the better off of person.
I would feel like I had no soul working and selling to people at places like that. Double price stepping over the line. Tripled price jesus christ that's insane! Those type of places and others should be banned.
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The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Nothing like paying $500 over original price. Like I said rent a center and checkNcash type places should be banned. Jesus christ those companies are pathetic.
OP I feel really bad for getting shafted

I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested

If you were able to root it, install Titanium backup, there is a file that is installed by Rent a center. It cannot be unistalled..I tried to and it vanishes for a few minutes but is reinstalled. Even after device is paid off you have to call rent a center and get their loss prevention department and they will remotely remove it. Even when I rooted and installed a rom the file was there. Trust me on this, I was silly enough to get a device from them yrs ago and even after the 90 days same as cash it took them over a month to take the file off my phone.
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I believe the file is sec.abt
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Note 8 Rent a center locked
obyrd1983 said:
I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested
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Yes please share thanks!
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Limeybastard said:
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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for my case they want shy of $1800 for a note 8

actually i bought a note 8 on ebay after 2 months use my phone was locked too with its was saying rent a center and asking for password
a friend of mine has commented on facebook post for someone who was saying he have sucessfully removed this lock
i did contacted him on his facebook he told me to send picture of the lock i did send it and he said he can unlock it he asked me for 90$ to remove the lock i accept and and paid him via skrill he asked for team viewer the logged to my pc then made the screen black and i do not know what he did then he tell me to do some steps and volla my phone was in download mode for 2 minutes then rebooted and i cant believe the lock was gone
this is the link where i found his post
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi/posts/2089441677959653
and this his facebook id page where i contacted him
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi
i cant post links because i just registered to make you guys know about it because i spent 1 month searching for solution
remove spaces in the link to make it work

Good for you! That guy probably works in rent a center!!

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[Q] I got a 50$ N6 but need advise

Ok, So, I found this girl on my local face book and she sold me a Nexus 6 that has a shattered screen for 50$ I couldn't pass up the deal and I did contact Motorola who said that they would replace the screen for 175$ So, I am getting a great deal. The kicker is that I have no clue if it is reported stolen or what. She let me come to her house and assured me it wasn't and that she just didn't have the money to pay the 175$ for the insurance. Anyways, what do you guys think? should I send it in to Motorola? Can they keep the phone if there is something shady going on with it? It is from T Mobile from what she said. But I didn't get anything but the phone. I do have some sign of life. I just plugged it in and a green light came on up top but I have no screen action. The screen is shattered but the rest of it is in excellent condition.
As of now I have the One Plus One and I am debating on which phone is the keeper if everything does work out with it. Is there anyone else coming from the OPO who has an opinion of the 2 phones?
Any advise on my situation is highly appreciated!
Motorola won't keep it, they're not the mobile phone police.
With that said, who is this idiot girl? Why on earth would she sell a $650 phone, even with a crack screen for $50?
That's sounds shady if you ask me. Check the IMEI online and see if it might be black listed. If nothing cones out its at least worth fixing because that's a steal.
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Also T-Mobile will black list phones if they aren't gift l bought out right and the account holder doesn't pay for it.
Even with a crack screen and bad IMEI number it's still worth more then the $50 he paid for it.
Pilz said:
That's sounds shady if you ask me. Check the IMEI online and see if it might be black listed. If nothing cones out its at least worth fixing because that's a steal.
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Also T-Mobile will black list phones if they aren't gift l bought out right and the account holder doesn't pay for it.
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I don't know why she would do it but I do know a good deal when I see it. LOL! The digitizer isn't working so there is no way for me to get an IMEI # unless I open the back? I hate to invest in the new screen and it be blacklisted. Does anyone know if the IMEI # is located in the device if I took the back cover off? I don't know of another way to check unless I go ahead and fork over the $ for the new screen.
rayandreas said:
I don't know why she would do it but I do know a good deal when I see it. LOL! The digitizer isn't working so there is no way for me to get an IMEI # unless I open the back? I hate to invest in the new screen and it be blacklisted. Does anyone know if the IMEI # is located in the device if I took the back cover off? I don't know of another way to check unless I go ahead and fork over the $ for the new screen.
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I just ran through a teardown of the N6, and it doesn't appear as if there are any stickers on the inside that would list the IMEI on the inside of the device. It would seem that the only way to know for sure would be to take the gamble on having the screen fixed.
Personally I'd get it repaired and take the gamble. It is very suspicious that she didn't give you the included box, if she did buy it what good would she have by keeping the box?
$50 is not that bad and the repair cost isn't too bad either. Take the gamble and see what happens.
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I don't know why she would do it but I do know a good deal when I see it. LOL! The digitizer isn't working so there is no way for me to get an IMEI # unless I open the back? I hate to invest in the new screen and it be blacklisted. Does anyone know if the IMEI # is located in the device if I took the back cover off? I don't know of another way to check unless I go ahead and fork over the $ for the new screen.
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Repair it because its worth the risk. Worst case she senario you will need a new imei but we aren't allow to discuss pushing new imei numbers to black listed phones on XDA but a quick google search could help you should you need it.
What's her Facebook? I'll help you check it out.
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SilentO said:
What's her Facebook? I'll help you check it out.
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That doesn't even seem relevant....
rayandreas said:
I don't know why she would do it but I do know a good deal when I see it. LOL! The digitizer isn't working so there is no way for me to get an IMEI # unless I open the back? I hate to invest in the new screen and it be blacklisted. Does anyone know if the IMEI # is located in the device if I took the back cover off? I don't know of another way to check unless I go ahead and fork over the $ for the new screen.
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Andowsdan said:
I just ran through a teardown of the N6, and it doesn't appear as if there are any stickers on the inside that would list the IMEI on the inside of the device. It would seem that the only way to know for sure would be to take the gamble on having the screen fixed.
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Grab a magnifying glass, and look at the sim card tray.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/3333000?hl=en
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Grab a magnifying glass, and look at the sim card tray.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/3333000?hl=en
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Son of a gun. I didn't even think of that. Only phone I've ever seen it there on before was the iPhone 4/4s. Well, that should solve OP's issue.
rayandreas said:
I don't know why she would do it but I do know a good deal when I see it. LOL! The digitizer isn't working so there is no way for me to get an IMEI # unless I open the back? I hate to invest in the new screen and it be blacklisted. Does anyone know if the IMEI # is located in the device if I took the back cover off? I don't know of another way to check unless I go ahead and fork over the $ for the new screen.
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I believe you can find the IMEI on the SIM card tray. She should have provided the payment receipt so you could prove it wasn't stolen.
PaisanNYC said:
Grab a magnifying glass, and look at the sim card tray.
https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/3333000?hl=en
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This, then go to http://swappa.com/esn and check the IMEI.
Well, Great news so far. I checked the IMEI # from the tray and it came back legit. So, I am winning so far! Thanks for all of the advise from everyone.
Now, I need to decide if I want to keep the Nexus over my OPO. I love my OPO but have been having an itchy finger to get the N6...We shall see!
Thanks again everyone!
DUDE!!! I have to share this...I called Motorola and told them that I got the phone from someone who didn't want to pay the insurance to fix it. They ran the IMEI # and I pre paid 175$ on a credit card and they sent me a new nexus 6 in the box with everything! Unopened!!! All I have to do is send the old phone back within a few days and I have just gotten a new N6 for 225$!!!Ya baby!!!
I couldn't honestly decide on what phone to keep between the Oneplus one and the N6 so I posted both on Craigslist and I said the first one that sold is the one I will get rid of and keep the other. Within 15 minutes of my post someone bought my One plus 1. So, fate has it that I have an N6! Now time to get this puppy flashed and dialed in. Thanks again !
rayandreas said:
DUDE!!! I have to share this...I called Motorola and told them that I got the phone from someone who didn't want to pay the insurance to fix it. They ran the IMEI # and I pre paid 175$ on a credit card and they sent me a new nexus 6 in the box with everything! Unopened!!! All I have to do is send the old phone back within a few days and I have just gotten a new N6 for 225$!!!Ya baby!!!
I couldn't honestly decide on what phone to keep between the Oneplus one and the N6 so I posted both on Craigslist and I said the first one that sold is the one I will get rid of and keep the other. Within 15 minutes of my post someone bought my One plus 1. So, fate has it that I have an N6! Now time to get this puppy flashed and dialed in. Thanks again !
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I came from a OnePlus One, you won't regret it. Yeah the N6 is more wide but you'll get used to it, once you use the N6 you'll wonder why every other phone wasn't wide to begin with. OnePlus One does have better battery life but thats not to say that the N6 can't survive a full day without charging.
But congratulations, nice to see Motorola's customer service is quite nice.
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I came from a OnePlus One, you won't regret it. Yeah the N6 is more wide but you'll get used to it, once you use the N6 you'll wonder why every other phone wasn't wide to begin with. OnePlus One does have better battery life but thats not to say that the N6 can't survive a full day without charging.
But congratulations, nice to see Motorola's customer service is quite nice.
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Yes sir! I remember you! You helped me in the very beginning when I first got my opo. I was stuck and you helped pull me out of a bind. Good man, good man.
Well, I am loving the N6 so far. I have had the N5 so this is going to be fun. Time to start digging in and seeing what this puppy can do.
I had the OnePlus One and loved it but the N6 is better
rayandreas said:
Ok, So, I found this girl on my local face book and she sold me a Nexus 6 that has a shattered screen for 50$ I couldn't pass up the deal and I did contact Motorola who said that they would replace the screen for 175$ So, I am getting a great deal. The kicker is that I have no clue if it is reported stolen or what. She let me come to her house and assured me it wasn't and that she just didn't have the money to pay the 175$ for the insurance. Anyways, what do you guys think? should I send it in to Motorola? Can they keep the phone if there is something shady going on with it? It is from T Mobile from what she said. But I didn't get anything but the phone. I do have some sign of life. I just plugged it in and a green light came on up top but I have no screen action. The screen is shattered but the rest of it is in excellent condition.
As of now I have the One Plus One and I am debating on which phone is the keeper if everything does work out with it. Is there anyone else coming from the OPO who has an opinion of the 2 phones?
Any advise on my situation is highly appreciated!
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My N6 is rooted and I'm running the Franco kernel for better battery life but once it's replaced the 4K AMOLED screen alone is a big difference.
rayandreas said:
Yes sir! I remember you! You helped me in the very beginning when I first got my opo. I was stuck and you helped pull me out of a bind. Good man, good man.
Well, I am loving the N6 so far. I have had the N5 so this is going to be fun. Time to start digging in and seeing what this puppy can do.
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Yeah your name sounds pretty familiar. I missed the Nexus community and it felt more true to "AOSP" as OPO ROMs/kernels heavily relied upon CM as they had a number of device specific code/commits.
I'm glad you're enjoying the device, a lot of N5 -> OPO -> N6 converts. I probably will skip on the OnePlus Two (or whatever its called).
I made my own custom ROM if you wanted to give it a try, if not then no bad feelings

Every time I sideload an update zip file, it restores my phone on the last step.

I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
Anyone?
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Anyone?
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
beta546 said:
Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
beta546 said:
Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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beta546 said:
Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
Our bad
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
Our bad
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Yeah I've been quiet good for a long time now and stuck with more mid range phones, but on seeing the note 9 I just needed it, for reasons haha. It didn't help seeing it being advertised on TV every 5 minutes, so if you asked me, it's Samsung's fault.
And yeah, good chat, and I think we partially answered his question at least haha.
pcriz said:
I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
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That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
10pmStalker said:
That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it does all of them, that would be great.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it goes all of them, that would be great.
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Updated October security patch. Google didn't restore anything. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Not too sure

***horrible bad burn in note 9***

Don't know how many note 9 with burn there are but here is mine! Looks terrible! Noticed it for the first time last night when it got pretty dark outside and it is super annoying! I assume Samsung will replace with new one? But I have a whitestone and skinomi on it, I am sure they wont cover those
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Pretty much completely dark room
Anybody else experience this or have any ideas?
It looks like to me it's screen burn-in. I don't think you can do anything about it.
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Don't know how many note 9 with burn there are but here is mine! Looks terrible! Noticed it for the first time last night when it got pretty dark outside and it is super annoying! I assume Samsung will replace with new one? But I have a whitestone and skinomi on it, I am sure they wont cover those
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If you're still within the one year warranty, complain to samaung through "Samsung +" app and don't mention anything about burn in. Just say my screen doesnt look right. If you're out of the warranty then you're SOL.
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I had the same issue a month ago. Samsung won't replace it but they will change the screen. They did that for me, but the issue is coming back again. People need to reach out to Samsung and bring this issue to light. Too many units are doing this now but not enough people are speaking up.
Check out the Note 9 screen burn in thread and you'll see other users, including myself, who have pics posted of the same issue.
Sorry about your phone... Reach out to Samsung asap and make sure to send them picture evidence of your issue when you send in your phone. The more people to complain, the more likely Samsung will probably decide to replace these defective units.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/how-to/screen-burn-check-thread-t3851263
K-alz said:
If you're still within the one year warranty, complain to samaung through "Samsung +" app and don't mention anything about burn in. Just say my screen doesnt look right. If you're out of the warranty then you're SOL.
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I have had since 9/25 so just over 2 months, wonder if I can just return for a full money refund?
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I had the same issue a month ago. Samsung won't replace it but they will change the screen. They did that for me, but the issue is coming back again. People need to reach out to Samsung and bring this issue to light. Too many units are doing this now but not enough people are speaking up.
Check out the Note 9 screen burn in thread and you'll see other users, including myself, who have pics posted of the same issue.
Sorry about your phone... Reach out to Samsung asap and make sure to send them picture evidence of your issue when you send in your phone. The more people to complain, the more likely Samsung will probably decide to replace these defective units.
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That's BS it is a $1200 phone I don't want a new screen i want a new phone! I will just return if that is the case and buy a different phone
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I have had since 9/25 so just over 2 months, wonder if I can just return for a full money refund?
That's BS it is a $1200 phone I don't want a new screen i want a new phone! I will just return if that is the case and buy a different phone
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That close? That shouldn't happen. I'd definitely get a factory replacement from Samsung. I doubt that your carrier would return it because it's been a while.
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That close? That shouldn't happen. I'd definitely get a factory replacement from Samsung. I doubt that your carrier would return it because it's been a while.
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I bought from Samsung, it is an unlocked 512 gb model and i received on 9/25 i checked tracking this morning to make sure my dates were correct
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I bought from Samsung, it is an unlocked 512 gb model and i received on 9/25 i checked tracking this morning to make sure my dates were correct
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Yeah, that's not even two months. Burn ins will never happen in two months unless you make them happen on purpose. Just contact Samsung. They will replace it. They have an app called samaung +. Use it. They're very helpful.
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Yeah, that's not even two months. Burn ins will never happen in two months unless you make them happen on purpose. Just contact Samsung. They will replace it. They have an app called samaung +. Use it. They're very helpful.
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yeah i mean i use it daily and average about 2-3 hours of screen on time and nothing intensive or static images that would cause burn in. Do i just return for refund and buy a new phone or try a new note 9 again? I mean is this going to happen in a month or two again??
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yeah i mean i use it daily and average about 2-3 hours of screen on time and nothing intensive or static images that would cause burn in. Do i just return for refund and buy a new phone or try a new note 9 again? I mean is this going to happen in a month or two again??
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Talk to a rep on the app. They're very good. I'd get a new one for a replacement from them. Make sure it's not a refurb. O doubt they'd give you a refund. Burn ins dont happen that soon. You literally need at least two years of the same screen layout and same things done everyday. I've been using oleds since Samsung released them on their first note and I've never had any burn in. And yours actually doesnt even look like a burn in to be honest. It looks a screen uniformity issue.
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Your phone has a screen problem, not a burn in. Burn ins are shadows of things you have on your home screen, like your status bar and icons. This is nothing like that. This is an issue with your screen and they'll give you a replacement. Just make sure to present your proof of purchase such as your receipt and all that jazz and you'll be fine.
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Talk to a rep on the app. They're very good. I'd get a new one for a replacement from them. Make sure it's not a refurb. O doubt they'd give you a refund. Burn ins dont happen that soon. You literally need at least two years of the same screen layout and same things done everyday. I've been using oleds since Samsung released them on their first note and I've never had any burn in. And yours actually doesnt even look like a burn in to be honest. It looks a screen uniformity issue.
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Your phone has a screen problem, not a burn in. Burn ins are shadows of things you have on your home screen, like your status bar and icons. This is nothing like that. This is an issue with your screen and they'll give you a replacement. Just make sure to present your proof of purchase such as your receipt and all that jazz and you'll be fine.
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I agree that it is a screen uniformity issue or something odd. I have every note since the note 2 and never seen this and all of those were used a year and never had a problem. My nav bar isn't "burnt in" which is weird because it is always up and dark
and i have been talking to a rep on samsung+ and sending photos and troubleshooting for him, seems very nice and helpful so far
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I agree that it is a screen uniformity issue or something odd. I have every note since the note 2 and never seen this and all of those were used a year and never had a problem. My nav bar isn't "burnt in" which is weird because it is always up and dark
and i have been talking to a rep on samsung+ and sending photos and troubleshooting for him, seems very nice and helpful so far
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Good. They'll take care of you I'm sure. The only thing you might worry about is having another phone because they might have you send this one in. Hope all goes well for ya.
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Good. They'll take care of you I'm sure. The only thing you might worry about is having another phone because they might have you send this one in. Hope all goes well for ya.
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so far not so much they want to send me to a local repair shop and have them install a new screen in it. not liking these options
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so far not so much they want to send me to a local repair shop and have them install a new screen in it. not liking these options
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I'd argue with them and ask to speak to a manager or a supervisor. This phone is only two months old. I mean, if anything just take the screen replacement honestly. They will only send you to a Samsung authorized repair shop
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I'd argue with them and ask to speak to a manager or a supervisor. This phone is only two months old. I mean, if anything just take the screen replacement honestly. They will only send you to a Samsung authorized repair shop
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I am getting case number and then going to call a higher up and see what to do. There is so many things wrong so far I am about ready to buy a pixel 3 and say screw the note
Well, at least get your money or another phone back first.
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so far not so much they want to send me to a local repair shop and have them install a new screen in it. not liking these options
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It's basically going to be a new phone. They will keep the mother board and camera from the old phone and put it in a new body.
So new body and new battery.
At least that is how they handled every report of burn in on the Note 8.
If they send you to a UBreakIFix it is about a two hour turn around..
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It's basically going to be a new phone. They will keep the mother board and camera from the old phone and put it in a new body.
So new body and new battery.
At least that is how they handled every report of burn in on the Note 8.
If they send you to a UBreakIFix it is about a two hour turn around..
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and then waterproofing may be compromised as well. Then i can't sell for anything good because it has had the screen replaced. Yes it was a UBREAKIFIXIT location.
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and then waterproofing may be compromised as well. Then i can't sell for anything good because it has had the screen replaced. Yes it was a UBREAKIFIXIT location.
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Nope water resistance isn't compromised.
That's UbreakIFix's statement. Its as water resistant as a new one out of the box.. That's part of why they dont just replace the screen.
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Nope water resistance isn't compromised.
That's UbreakIFix's statement. Its as water resistant as a new one out of the box.. That's part of why they dont just replace the screen.
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still dont like it because I am probably not going to keep the phone

Why is there no discussion about the new FunkyHuawei 'kinda root' service?

FunkyHuawei has taken kind of a weird turn recently, starting with a total conversion from a 'credit' system to a subscription model. They released info about this on the 10th, on their Twitter account:
https://mobile.twitter.com/FunkyHuawei
A monthly fee... Hmm, I wonder why. Could it be that their new workaround to get 'root' on the Mate 20 Pro is a very fragile hack that doesn't actually unlock the bootloader, and can (and will) be disabled with *ANY* kind of update - be it firmware or otherwise? Yeah, that is what else they announced - that they have a working hack to 'kinda' get root on the Mate 20 Pro. It is detailed here:
https://funkyhuawei.club/root
A few things to note from this:
1) They seem to only be able to do it for 3 distinct models: LYA-L29, LYA-L09, LYA-L0C. Yay for Canadians, I guess?
2) They can (or will) *only* perform this service over remote control of your computer, via TeamViewer. That kinda makes me cringe, for too many reasons to list. It doesn't mean it is necessarily shady, but if given the option I would rather not go down that road.
3) The service is PRICEY. Even though they only announced it three days ago, the 'opening sale' is over after today, and will normally cost $190 USD. (It is on 'sale' at the moment for $165). This is pretty damned expensive, given the, er... 'transient' nature of the hack - and the obvious reliance on the subscription model as a result.
4) They are a little vague about this one, but even though they have also come up with a way to flash any firmware to any phone, even if the OEM bootloader unlock is grayed out, this hack seems to only work with specific versions of firmware. In other words, they are likely going to do a downgrade and they certainly aren't going to promise future proof. This... Isn't good.
5) They clearly state that any changes to anything will break the hack, and that is on YOU. In other words, they are hinting that even with the new subscription model you would need to pay full price for them to perform this remote service every time. Not only that, they are not responsible for anything going wrong, even during their initial attempt. That is standard practice for this kind of thing I guess, but at that price?
I can't see myself going for this. It sounds too flakey to be worth it. Honestly it looks like we just have to hold out hope that someone brute forces the encryption on the algorithm used to generate the bootloader unlock codes, or a solid working hack to get around it. FH is charging this kind of money because they are betting that there will never be any other way to get 'root' on a Mate 20 Pro, even though this smells a lot like the tethered jailbreaks for the iphones that were so fragile they could break if the wrong app was executed never mind rebooting the phone.
To anyone who goes this route, let us know how it works out. It sounds like once successful (and if you never flash the firmware) you ARE able to install a working SU/Magisk onto the phone yourself. They go out of their way to say that they will flash a TWRP recovery to the phone if you wish, but they won't put any root on it themselves. Again, probably a legal thing more than anything else.
I wish Huawei would just sell us bootloader unlock codes.
I think there's no discussion because of what you've already outlined and that, based on their recent track record, no one really trusts them.
The reason they'll only do it over Team Viewer is because they don't want to give you the tools in order to 1) force you to go back to them when it gets reverted by an update and 2) to stop the tools getting shared. If they connect to your PC then they can download what they need from their servers (securely using authentication) run it then clean up after themselves so as not to leave anything behind.
As you say, they're relying on there being no alternative and that M20P owners become desperate enough to go this route but I can't see that many going for it.
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The reason they'll only do it over Team Viewer is because they don't want to give you the tools in order to 1) force you to go back to them when it gets reverted by an update and 2) to stop the tools getting shared. If they connect to your PC then they can download what they need from their servers (securely using authentication) run it then clean up after themselves so as not to leave anything behind.
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Hmm, that sounds exactly like what they would do. We need someone to go through this and pull off a bit of a hack of their own and keep all the software/data they download onto your computer. I wonder how paranoid they are, surely they don't go so far as to run tools that wipe the free space left when they delete their own stuff? Meh, this sounds like kind of a flaky hack - so far. I don't have a problem with them charging for a good service but $200 is a LOT for something that can't survive basic firmware upgrades.
I am glad no one is talking about this, because they are a piece of crap. They only want to steal our money. 100$+ for crap hack... Ahahah.
Funkyhuawei are nothing but scammers.
Yes, Just scammers, First of all, we should not promote them on XDA.
Fully agree with what is written in the previous post and I would never go to this service.
What remains is to point at the real source of all this, namely Huawei and their refusal to allow bootloader unlocking. Why in all heavens is it not possible for them to do it like many other companies do? In the light of all this I sadly state that the Mate 20 Pro was my first and last Huawei phone !
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Fully agree with what is written in the previous post and I would never go to this service.
What remains is to point at the real source of all this, namely Huawei and their refusal to allow bootloader unlocking. Why in all heavens is it not possible for them to do it like many other companies do? In the light of all this I sadly state that the Mate 20 Pro was my first and last Huawei phone !
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There's always One Plus where you pay $700 for a $300 phone with an upgraded processor and have to use custom ROMs that always have bugs because Oxygen is an ineptly coded train-wreck.
Strange how nobody seems to mind that XDA has been shilling for One Plus for years.
But at least you can unlock the bootloader, right?
jhs39 said:
There's always One Plus where you pay $700 for a $300 phone with an upgraded processor and have to use custom ROMs that always have bugs because Oxygen is an ineptly coded train-wreck.
Strange how nobody seems to mind that XDA has been shilling for One Plus for years.
But at least you can unlock the bootloader, right?
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You can always use a downgrade file that funkyhuawei customer service told you would work and have thay file brick your phone and be told 'its your fault the file didnt work' after paying out 150 in unlimited passes and bootloader unlock codes.
But you can always use your huawei warrenty and get a battered device returned to you right?
$190 for a "root but not root" solution is just daylight robbery. I dont think FH are welcome here anymore...
Ive done a paypal dispute. Sent paypal proof of huawei repair. Proof of email exchanges from funky that shows his files caused the damage. Hopefully will win but you never know.
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Ive done a paypal dispute. Sent paypal proof of huawei repair. Proof of email exchanges from funky that shows his files caused the damage. Hopefully will win but you never know.
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Just a quick update, I will have to look into it but I will pay FH $500 if they can install malware onto my pc that hijacks all my banking information as long as they can make my phone stop with the WORST AUTO-BRIGHTNESS NIGHTMARE EVAR. Like, seriously... Really?
Really?!
In my opinion a scam and scammers never last long, that's the story of funky huawei...good thing I didn't pay them for anything, day light robbers,
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In my opinion a scam and scammers never last long, that's the story of funky huawei...good thing I didn't pay them for anything, day light robbers,
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My paypal dispute failed. Even after proof of broken phone, repair, and being forced to purchase a bootloader code just to use my unlimited pass (bootloader was already unlocked he wouldnt switch my pass). Oh well
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My paypal dispute failed. Even after proof of broken phone, repair, and being forced to purchase a bootloader code just to use my unlimited pass (bootloader was already unlocked he wouldnt switch my pass). Oh well
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ok are you still within your 90 day paypal protection ?, if you are write them an email detailing everything and tell them their decision is against paypal buyer protection. You did not receive the level of service you were shown on funky (scammer) website and than your phone got messed up as well that's enough to appeal, try it and see what they say. Happened with me on a eBay purchase, they decided in favour of the seller, I wrote them they refunded me the full amount. Hope this helps, cheers.
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ok are you still within your 90 day paypal protection ?, if you are write them an email detailing everything and tell them their decision is against paypal buyer protection. You did not receive the level of service you were shown on funky (scammer) website and than your phone got messed up as well that's enough to appeal, try it and see what they say. Happened with me on a eBay purchase, they decided in favour of the seller, I wrote them they refunded me the full amount. Hope this helps, cheers.
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Itd 180 days protection. Yes I have been messaging them further screenshots etc to try get the decision overturned.
Edit paypal are replying with the same message at every turn now.
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Itd 180 days protection. Yes I have been messaging them further screenshots etc to try get the decision overturned.
Edit paypal are replying with the same message at every turn now.
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ohh ok, I guess I got lucky than, try sending an email to someone higher up, might help, worth a try mate,
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ohh ok, I guess I got lucky than, try sending an email to someone higher up, might help, worth a try mate,
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Do u have an email add for anyone higher up?
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Do u have an email add for anyone higher up?
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send you a private message, cheers.
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send you a private message, cheers.
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Was unable to post it privately but heres what I said.

Just bought a bad imei v40 verizon......can i use on t-mobile?

Just bought a v40 with a blacklisted imei... did so thinking imeigurus had the fix for it. now im stuck with a 250$ paperweight.
I should be able to unlock it and use it on t-mobile somehow right?
open to rooting flashing w/e i need to do.
Or ofc if theres some site that does the imei repair on it.
k1bih said:
Just bought a v40 with a blacklisted imei... did so thinking imeigurus had the fix for it. now im stuck with a 250$ paperweight.
I should be able to unlock it and use it on t-mobile somehow right?
open to rooting flashing w/e i need to do.
Or ofc if theres some site that does the imei repair on it.
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I'm no expert, but bad IMEI is a bad IMEI. Unless you can find a good IMEI, and someone REALLY good with cloning phones, enjoy the new paperweight. At best, it may only be a wifi device.
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Einsteindks said:
I'm no expert, but bad IMEI is a bad IMEI. Unless you can find a good IMEI, and someone REALLY good with cloning phones, enjoy the new paperweight. At best, it may only be a wifi device.
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well youre definitely no expert because bad IMEI can be fixed on phones.
Don't listen to these people. I am not sure why people who have no idea what they are talking about post to these forums. Maybe they should go and post their helpful info on brain surgery forums.
If it is blacklisted lost/stolen then it most likely will not work but this is unusual.
If it is blacklisted due to unpaid bill then sure it will work. However you will probably not get LTE because Verizon and T-Mobile use different bands.
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well youre definitely no expert because bad IMEI can be fixed on phones.
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There we go again. Where can IMEI be fixed on LG V40? Where? I will give you a reward of $1000 (will send cash by western union)for providing this information.
Here are some helpful "facts" for you too.
If your car runs out of gas it is simple you can put alcohol or kerosene instead of gas.
If you spill paint on your clothing, just clean it with bleach.
If you ever run out of dog food, feed him chocolate.
Stains on bathroom floor? A simple mixture of bleach and ammonia will take care of it. Make sure you close the door first.
Really why do people post when they don't know what they are talking about. Don't you feel stupid?
zeek6228 said:
Don't listen to these people. I am not sure why people who have no idea what they are talking about post to these forums. Maybe they should go and post their helpful info on brain surgery forums.
If it is blacklisted lost/stolen then it most likely will not work but this is unusual.
If it is blacklisted due to unpaid bill then sure it will work. However you will probably not get LTE because Verizon and T-Mobile use different bands.
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There we go again. Where can IMEI be fixed on LG V40? Where? I will give you a reward of $1000 (will send cash by western union)for providing this information.
Here are some helpful "facts" for you too.
If your car runs out of gas it is simple you can put alcohol or kerosene instead of gas.
If you spill paint on your clothing, just clean it with bleach.
If you ever run out of dog food, feed him chocolate.
Stains on bathroom floor? A simple mixture of bleach and ammonia will take care of it. Make sure you close the door first.
Really why do people post when they don't know what they are talking about. Don't you feel stupid?
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buddy dont be a narrow minded idiot.
most phones can have their imei fixed.
that's why i posted here obviously because all the USUAL methods didnt work and usual sites. Meaning there are actual sites that can fix these issues. so when someone says bad imei is unfixable thats wrong.
also your attempt at trying to prove a point is typical mouthbreather behavior .that only further make you look like a ****ing retard. so please unless you have something useful to say take your own advice.
I gave the OP useful and accurate advice (if it is blacklisted due to lost/stolen it can not be used with T-Mobile, if it is blacklisted due to unpaid bill it can). And yes you can repair or fix IMEI on many devices but not LG V40
I also gave you helpful advice (STFU if you don't know what you are talking about)
Verizon phones should already be sim unlocked for GSM...meaning they work out of box with AT&T and T-Mobile...I know this because I activate phones a lot....unless Verizon has changed the way they have been doing things for the past couple of years that is....

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