I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
Anyone?
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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What exactly are you flashing? Are you doing it in TWRP, or stock recovery? People really need to be more specific when they're opening these threads, I see one question that they ask and then I have to reply with multiple questions just to know what they're on about.
Does your update zip contain the CSC? If so, I know that flashing firmware through Odin, there are two CSC files, one called CSC and one called CSC home, or something to that effect, one wipes your phone, the other doesn't.
That's about all I can think of, you really need to give more details.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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I put the zip on the root of SD. How do I avoid the factory reset?
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
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Ah okay, seems like an awful pain for anyone that has that device, I assume it's a firmware that's branded by them as well so waiting for official OTAs would take even longer.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Not really. In the states sometimes non carrier branded software takes longer, some times it comes first. It just depends.
The user is likely loading leaked OTA updates from att which means it's not an official release. Just hopping the line a little.
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Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
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Oh, that's a surprise actually, here in the UK the carrier branded can sometimes take months longer, but how do the carriers release new versions even before Samsung pushes them? Do the carriers over there build there own firmware themselves rather than just taking what Samsung releases and adding all their crap to it?
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Samsung builds all of the software builds and carriers test them when they get them but carriers take priority I am assuming because users on carrier plans using carrier branded phones fall in the 90 percentile of cell phone subscribers.
Now I am just making that number up but our market only recently started being a little more diverse when it comes to unlocked options.
It's the difference in paying 800 bucks up front and paying 200 to subsidize and stay on a contract you were probably keeping anyways.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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Ah right, well that's interesting. And yeah mobile contracts are the main method of acquiring devices here too, but I chose not to upgrade my plan this time and went on SIM only contract with 20gb data, then I used PayPal credit to buy the note 9 from Switzerland with no VAT, which works out significantly cheaper than the £70 + per month to get the phone on contract with any service provider here, that's without paying several hundred pounds up front for the device.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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In my almost five years on T-Mobile this is the second time I've done a phone through them. Usually I sell my last and buy the new one out right.
This year they offered my half off in payments over 24 months. So I went for it. I certainly don't like the feeling of a contract but ultimately it works out better price wise but I usually push people to pay as you go alternatives and ysed phones from swappa if they aren't addicted to the "New Big Thing" like me.
I did just read an article from last year that said about 12% of the mobile phones in the US are carrier unlocked.
Now it's making more sense though since we moved away from subsidized and now we lease for the full price like you all over the pond. I think I will try very hard to keep this one for two years though. The prices are just too high. That or grabbing last years model pixel since at this point battery and camera are my big must haves. Ya know if Samsung keeps climbing in price.
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Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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Yeah I've always had phones from the carriers over here, it's always been the best and cheapest option, maybe not cheapest in total, but cheapest on a month by month basis.
But since I discovered PayPal offer credit now, being able to buy anything off eBay and pay in monthly instalments, just worked out much cheaper for me,
I saved 180 on the retail price here, and although I will end up paying some interest, over the time I've paid it off, it is still miles better than £70 a month, and I got 4 months interest free as well which will help in paying a big chunk of it before interest kicks in.
And yeah phones are getting way more expensive these days, they're beginning to sky rocket, the note 9 is the most expensive thing I've ever bought in my life haha. I certainly won't be doing it again for at least a few years, with the hardware we've got it will be at least a couple years before it starts to really fall behind, although saying that, smartphone technology is coming along faster than ever.
Think what we have now, it was only 20 years ago that the Nokia 5110 was the top end of the phone market haha. Now we're looking at foldable screens and such in the near future.
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
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Yeah the guilt each year gets higher for me especially paying full price a lot of the time.
You're right though we did hijack. Good convo but sorry op
Our bad
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Yeah I've been quiet good for a long time now and stuck with more mid range phones, but on seeing the note 9 I just needed it, for reasons haha. It didn't help seeing it being advertised on TV every 5 minutes, so if you asked me, it's Samsung's fault.
And yeah, good chat, and I think we partially answered his question at least haha.
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I mean you can side load an update zip in stock recovery.
If it's an update zip as in a manually installed ota it does have an csc..
Also op is likely an att or Sprint user so wiping when manually flashing is a fact of life.
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If you are on Sprint or ATT then no, manually flashing an OTA will always wipe your device.
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That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
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That's the first explanation that makes sense. I haven't heard that before. I'm on AT&T. Guess I have to live with it. Not a huge deal as I back everything up but it's a bit of a hassle changing all the setting back.
I use https://samsung.firmware.science for any new firmware that comes out.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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Yes this phone has a hell of a lot of settings compared to any I've had before. Out of curiosity, have you never tried Google's device settings backup option? I never have, and I've always wondered if it did a good job of it.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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I haven't heard of Google device settings backup. I'll check it out now, thanks.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it does all of them, that would be great.
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Yeah go to accounts, then backup and restore, then press Google account and you'll get this screen, I've never tried it, but as you've no choice but to wipe when updating, there's no harm you giving it a go, if you do, I wouldn't mind knowing the outcome, it may only backup certain settings, but if it goes all of them, that would be great.
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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I'll be sure to let you know how it goes. Got it all backed up. Might be a bit before October update shows up but I'll come back and update you
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Cool thanks mate. I'd appreciate it.
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Updated October security patch. Google didn't restore anything. Unless I'm doing something wrong. Not too sure
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So I have been using my lovely N1 with AT&T from the day I got it. Just popped my old SIM card into the N1, added a $15/month unlimited data plan and presto blamo it worked like a charm.
So last night I get a text from AT&T telling me I need to add a "smartphone" plan to my account. How do they know I have a smartphone? Anyway, I ignored it. Just now, I got a message from them telling me my phone plan had been upgraded to the minimum plan...$30/month. I am now paying $15 more a month for absolutely nothing.
Buh-bye AT&T...going carrier shopping. Good thing I am not in contract! That's what using unlocked phones will let you do!
Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?
you imei is a digital trace. once you make one phone call or text from the phone, thats called billable airtime! your imei comes up in their system as what ever phone you are using in this case the nexus one. this is the same way tmobile knows how people are using a iphone
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Same issue. I guess they figured out how to find nexus ones on their network.
My thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630660
Anyone know how they do this ? can we hide the phone model from them ?
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no way to hide the phone at all
T-Mobile is waiting with open arms
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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quoted for truth.
Old MuckenMire said:
Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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quoted for truth.
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Everyones needs are different. I have wifi at work, home etc and have a premium GPS on my phone (offline maps).
Heres another one, actually an idiom.
A fool and his money are soon parted.
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Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
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Frankly, if a lousy dollar a day for data is too expensive, maybe you shouldn't have a smartphone in the first place.
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Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
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Amen!
I was just about to dial whine one one and call a Waaaambualnce.
If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it.
Besides this is a Nexus One forum not my carrier is crap forum. Two threads that are the same and keep floating to the top of the forum list like unwanted turds.
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Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.
The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.
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Totally untrue. You can use this phone with a standard voice with T-Mob, how do I know? I do it.
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I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.
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I did this with my tp2 also. I didn't think it was worth paying $30 a month to use when I have wifi pretty much every where I go. I like the nexus a lot better, so I pay for the data for now. However, I rarely use the data, so it is basically $25 down the drain every month.
It's not a matter of being able to afford it, flametards... It's about perceived value for services received.
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If you're wasting that $25 that's your own fault. Do what you did before if it worked fine.
The point is AT&T or T-Mobile can charge whatever they like. No amount of complaining in here is going to help that. If you want to have a moan the moan on their forums where they might actually see it. ( http://forums.wireless.att.com/ && http://forums.t-mobile.com/ )
Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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The real problem is not the price but rather the fact AT&T charges you $30 a month when you can't even use their 3G on your Nexus One.
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Bingo. This just happend to me yesterday as well. I guess AT&T figured out how to detect the Nexus. I've been paying the full data price for years, just switched it over 2 weeks ago because of this phone. It is pretty weak since its only on edge...
I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.
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I definitely wouldnt be down for paying 30 a month for Edge, that sucks. Also, why do people have to go trash every thread like it was a personal attack on them, if you dont like his post then dont read it, this is a discussion forum. You act like it automatically directed you here when you went to xda, no, you clicked the link, so click back, there, youre safe.
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Thanks.
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Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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It is relevant to this forum since ATT only just discovered they can label the N1(EDGE) a "smartphone" and charge more money. Other phones with web support still get the EDGE pricing.
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Your complaints about carrier pricing are nothing to do with the Nexus One.
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Did you see me complaining? No, you did not. I was simply saying it was possible to not have a data plan at all which was contrary to what you said, incorrectly, earlier. "If you don't want to pay, change network. You'll still have to pay so get over it."
Advice: if you want the thread to die quit posting in it. By the way, AT&T changing their policy on the nexus pertains to the nexus in general. Hence this thread's location in Nexus One General sub-forum.
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Good thing your first post here is a bash.
About paying for data and not paying for data:
For me I don't pay for any data on any phone. Why? No 3G, and I mainly use WiFi.
P.S I totally agree with "A fool and his money are soon parted"
AND to top things off, if someone was saving for a nice and shiny phone, this (and you) have no right to tell them "if you can't waste money, you cant have a new phone" saving for a 530$ phone and paying ONE TIME is far different than paying 30$ a month for data, when it isn't even used or isn't to its full capacity.
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I didn't bash anyone. Just stated my opinion based on the OP.
I hope not everyone here is as overly sensitive as you seem to be.
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Normally i would agree with the 'it's only $15' rationale.
However since these guys can't use 3g, they should get SOME discount from the normal price.
If enough people are interested, I had an idea that DFW XDA members all return their Vivids at the same time for a mass return at the AT&T HQ store in order to make a statement. This is the heart of their operation. We can discuss this, but what I and others came up with so far is:
AT&T Mass Return
Tuesday December 6th at 1:00pm
208 S Akard Street
STE 110
Dallas, TX 75202
Customer Parking Available for 2 hours at:
1600 Commerce Street
Dallas, TX 75201
Everyone is invited. Whether you have a Vivid or not. I understand not everyone lives here, but all are welcome none the less.
Thanks to Radi0chik
What do you guys think of this idea?
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If enough people are interested, I had an idea that DFW XDA members all return their Vivids at the same time for a mass return at the AT&T HQ store in order to make a statement. This is the heart of their operation. We can discuss this, but what I and others came up with so far is:
AT&T Mass Return
Tuesday December 6th at 1:00pm
208 S Akard Street
STE 110
Dallas, TX 75202
Customer Parking Available for 2 hours at:
1600 Commerce Street
Dallas, TX 75201
Everyone is invited. Whether you have a Vivid or not. I understand not everyone lives here, but all are welcome none the less.
Thanks to Radi0chik
What do you guys think of this idea?
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great idea.
Returned it already though.
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I bought mine from Amazonwireless... and I've already asked for an exchange to the skyrocket.
Plus the fact that I have school then doesn't help, but if I could come, I would.
can some one help me decide on what phone to get on sunday once i return mine?
i think that lg nitro hd is nice, but ive heard the ui sucks on it... so i was thinking either that new google nexus phone (sorry, im new to android and cant remember all these pohones) or the gs2... id rather have the og gs2 cause its faster than the skyrocket and i dont care to have lte
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can some one help me decide on what phone to get on sunday once i return mine?
i think that lg nitro hd is nice, but ive heard the ui sucks on it... so i was thinking either that new google nexus phone (sorry, im new to android and cant remember all these pohones) or the gs2... id rather have the og gs2 cause its faster than the skyrocket and i dont care to have lte
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Yea if your going to go with a gs2 Definitely get the OG. The Skyrocket has issues with screen resolution and such. As far as the LG Nitro goes I think that is up in the air considering it is going to have a full 720p screen. I am actually slightly leaning toward the LG just because of that but I still need to research it a little bit more.
Yes. I am wondering the same. Though I'm not sure if it will be rooted... New to thus android world. Also, I'm not sure how the devs will take the phone. I heard the lg ui is like touchwiz but retarded... Not meaning to insult. I'm hoping someone will do a good overview of the nitro by sunday
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I heard the lg ui is like touchwiz but retarded...
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IMO, both of those UIs are on par with excrement. On day 1 of owning my Captivate, I switched launchers. Even on Froyo/GB, I could not put up with it and just went full AOSP launcher-wise. If the LG launcher is the same, I know that I won't like it for sure.
Sense is the only aftermarket UI that I like, hence why I ended up with this phone.
EDIT: Also, what's even the point of this? Sending a message to AT&T about this phone would do nothing with you guys mass-returning it. After the event, you wouldn't even care what happened to this device's development life anyway, while you guys all go for Nitros or Skyrockets or whatever phone fits your fancy.
Occupy AT&T....not a chance
You mad cause you have no root...?
Root doesn't allow you to do much anyway other than to either overclock your CPU, make a complete backup of your rom, flash any random rom you want etc...
All the phones have the same CPU chipset, you're just paying for different screen resolutions and plastic shells that cover everything
Samsung couldn't even use its custom CPU because it lacked the ability to incorporate LTE technology, so they chose the Snapdragon S3 APQ8060 dual-core CPU...the same one in the Vivid, and the same one is in the LG Nitro.
Its the only CPU capable of allowing AT&T's 4gLTE service to run smooth for the end user
So go ahead, boycott the Vivid, youre only benefit is a screen with a smaller resolution or a screen with a higher resolution, plus youre still gonna pay the difference plus a $35 restocking fee is applicable...
It seems to me that the problem isn't the Vivid. It's AT&T. If you really want to make a statement then keep this amazing phone, cancel your contracts with AT&T, and allow the devs to continue working on unlocking and fully rooting the device which you know they will. This will do two things. One: send a message to AT&T that will cost them BIG-TIME. Two:Once the devs see how many people are willing to SACRIFICE their wireless mobility for such a great device, they may release a carrier unlock and varying radio support for the different competitors for the vivid. There are some major competitors that offer much better rates and data packages with full LTE support that DON'T lock bootloaders.
It seems silly to put such a serious and damaging halt to great development just because you're unwilling to sever the head of the snake, whereas mass returns will accomplish nothing. Well, not nothing, but if you REALLY want this problem addressed, make AT&T pay with the sudden loss of income. HTC isn't the problem. The Vivid isn't the problem. Big corporations have insurance policies to protect them when there's a problem with inventory/product defects/returns etc. But losing customers.. That just plain sucks for ANY business. Hit them where it hurts. The Next big awesome phone you want will just be locked up tight as well unless you send a CLEAR message they CAN'T ignore.
The Vivid counterpart in Canada (Raider) has already had great roms and kernels that work and are supported/updated every couple of days. I love this phone more and more and would switch carriers in a heartbeat if the company I pay my hard earned money to EVERY Month wasn't treating me like a VALUED customer. AT&T KNOWS what they're doing. They KNOW that what they're continuuing to do is WRONG. But they aren't listening becuase the customers aren't willing to lose they're precious contract they've worked so hard for.
Yes, it means going without the ability to use your nice phone for a little while. Yes it will suck having NO cellphone at all with all it's nice features at your disposal and whim. Maybe getting a junker from a better provider and waiting for the devs is asking too much.
Either that or stop and realize you've had your phone for ONE month. Forget everything I've said about teaching your carrier a lesson, and show some support for xda (maybe a little faith and gratitude as well) because they LOVE tinkering with HTC's products. I wonder sometimes if there would even BE an XDA team without HTC. Be patient, or teach them a REAL lesson in customer service. The alternative is YOU losing out, and feeling all proud and happy for giving up something you once loved. But then again nobody wants to admit they're ACTUALLY PAYING AT&T to treat us like prisoners. Stripping you of your right to DO WITH YOUR PROPERTY THAT WHICH YOU FEEL LIKE DOING.
While we're at it let's all go buy REALLY nice houses where we're not allowed to decorate, hang pictures, change the layout of the livingroom, or park our cars anywhere near.
Been following these forums since the beginning of this week when I ordered the phone through amazon. Now that it has finally shipped today after being backordered, I'm seeing this
and returning this, which I got for a penny, would mean I would have to pay full price for the phone I exchange for, correct?
I wish the morale in this forum didn't seem like it is dying away, but I understand that many of us are almost at the 30 day limit on exchanges and two years is an awful long time to go without an unlocked bootloader.
My first htc phone, after going through LG and blackberry.... which might be exchanged like all of yours....
I think a lot of you are missing the point. This is not just about the bootloader. everyone's reasons are different so I can only share my own. So if you have been paying attention to this forum at all you might get that. Personally my reasons are in no particular order: Carrier IQ, locked bootloader..not just because of development, but because you can't get rid of Carrier IQ while the bootloader is locked, being throttled by AT&T with normal use only halfway through my Billing cycle at only 3.6gb while I still have to pay full price even though I'm on an unlimited plan, their lack of answers, their silencing of our voices on forums, and those are just a few reasons. This is beyond "you mad about no root". And if you think I won't care about what happens after this, then you really haven't been paying attention. My plan is to import a phone or stick with my streak until I figure out a better option. If I use a phone they don't have on file for me, then I can at least not be throttled or be affected directly by Carrier IQ.
This idea isn't JUST for vivid users, and no one is occupying anything. This is for the returns to occur in one fell swoop so they can feel the hit they have caused themselves. As paying customers, most of us are tired of being treated like this. If you're having trouble understanding why and how this would matter, then you haven't been following this forum.
Returned mine already
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Returned mine already
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everyone Ganged up on me last time when I politely said 'bye bye vivid' not even a week back. Even my thread got deleted and I can't find it on vivid general section anymore.
I think it's worth sticking to Samsung for a while. Eventhough I love sense interface so much, I enjoy having good debloated ROMs that give me full potential of the phone.
I'm back to galaxy s2 and it's totally worth it.
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everyone Ganged up on me last time when I politely said 'bye bye vivid' not even a week back. Even my thread got deleted and I can't find it on vivid general section anymore.
I think it's worth sticking to Samsung for a while. Eventhough I love sense interface so much, I enjoy having good debloated ROMs that give me full potential of the phone.
I'm back to galaxy s2 and it's totally worth it.
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You might have been ahead of the game sir.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19946984&postcount=173
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I think a lot of you are missing the point. This is not just about the bootloader. everyone's reasons are different so I can only share my own. So if you have been paying attention to this forum at all you might get that. Personally my reasons are in no particular order: Carrier IQ, locked bootloader..not just because of development, but because you can't get rid of Carrier IQ while the bootloader is locked, being throttled by AT&T with normal use only halfway through my Billing cycle at only 3.6gb while I still have to pay full price even though I'm on an unlimited plan, their lack of answers, their silencing of our voices on forums, and those are just a few reasons. This is beyond "you mad about no root". And if you think I won't care about what happens after this, then you really haven't been paying attention. My plan is to import a phone or stick with my streak until I figure out a better option. If I use a phone they don't have on file for me, then I can at least not be throttled or be affected directly by Carrier IQ.
This idea isn't JUST for vivid users, and no one is occupying anything. This is for the returns to occur in one fell swoop so they can feel the hit they have caused themselves. As paying customers, most of us are tired of being treated like this. If you're having trouble understanding why and how this would matter, then you haven't been following this forum.
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The Carrier IQ situation will allow you to break free of your contract, not happy with AT&T, maybe it wasnt for you, not the first time a subscriber switched carriers. AT&T just got LTE when other carriers had it for longer and unthrottled, what stopped you from leaving then?, I have a bandwidth monitor on my vivid, the HTC IQ AGENT ( Carrier IQ ) doesn't take up gigs of your data plan, matter of fact it takes less than 1/10th of a MB. It is very freaky what this app is capable of and was pretty shocked when I saw the youtube vid. Did you know that uploads are also counted as well!. AT&T will soon realize that 4GB just isnt enough to satisfy customers.
Propose this, you have the ability to break free of your contract pretty soon cause of this whole CIQ debacle, if you want AT&T to keep your business, tell them you want unthrottled unlimited data on your grandfathered plan, they cant do that then just leave without penalty.
Its not HTC's fault AT&T has some weird business practices and contract practices that show up in forums / media from time to time, returning any carriers devices hurts sales and manufacturer reputation. Take the fight where it belongs, tell it to Al Franken..lol
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Been following these forums since the beginning of this week when I ordered the phone through amazon. Now that it has finally shipped today after being backordered, I'm seeing this
and returning this, which I got for a penny, would mean I would have to pay full price for the phone I exchange for, correct?
I wish the morale in this forum didn't seem like it is dying away, but I understand that many of us are almost at the 30 day limit on exchanges and two years is an awful long time to go without an unlocked bootloader.
My first htc phone, after going through LG and blackberry.... which might be exchanged like all of yours....
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I'm in the same boat as you got mine for .01 and it's a nice phone. The only thing I'd like to do is remove some bloat apps, but honestly who cares. Everything I've thrown at it works way better than it did on my EVO 4g on Sprint.
Its not like I have unlimited data with ATT and I pay for 4gig of data.
I'm keeping mine root or no root.
EDIT: I misread an article that I thought had said that HTC promised it unlocked in a month. Either way, you people are so impatient.
EDIT2: If this is for Carrier IQ then I totally agree, but for a phone that doesn't have an unlocked bootloader That's just stupid.
If you guys are seriously going to "occupy AT&T" then you are idiots. A few hundred people won't make that huge of a difference when they have nearly 100 Million customers.
In the end you're only hurting the development community because when it does get unlocked everyone would have left.
That's my $0.02. Good day.
Sent from my HTC Vivid.
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The Carrier IQ situation will allow you to break free of your contract, not happy with AT&T, maybe it wasnt for you, not the first time a subscriber switched carriers. AT&T just got LTE when other carriers had it for longer and unthrottled, what stopped you from leaving then?, I have a bandwidth monitor on my vivid, the HTC IQ AGENT ( Carrier IQ ) doesn't take up gigs of your data plan, matter of fact it takes less than 1/10th of a MB. It is very freaky what this app is capable of and was pretty shocked when I saw the youtube vid. Did you know that uploads are also counted as well!. AT&T will soon realize that 4GB just isnt enough to satisfy customers.
Propose this, you have the ability to break free of your contract pretty soon cause of this whole CIQ debacle, if you want AT&T to keep your business, tell them you want unthrottled unlimited data on your grandfathered plan, they cant do that then just leave without penalty.
Its not HTC's fault AT&T has some weird business practices and contract practices that show up in forums / media from time to time, returning any carriers devices hurts sales and manufacturer reputation. Take the fight where it belongs, tell it to Al Franken..lol
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You raise some really good points. Though I do feel HTC does have some degree of responsibility because it's on their branded product with their name attached to the actual app.
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Wow... HTC already said they were going to unlock the bootloader for this phone. You people are so impatient.
If you guys are seriously going to "occupy AT&T" then you are idiots. I few hundred people won't make that huge of a difference when they have nearly 100 Million customers.
In the end you're only hurting the development community because when it does get unlocked everyone would have left.
That's my $0.02. Good day.
Sent from my HTC Vivid.
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Can I get a link to where they said they were going to unlock the bootloader?
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I recently turned my LG Thrill in to AT&T's insurance claims service, and they apparently don't make the Thrill anymore, so they are sending the Nitro HD at no additional cost! Just the deductible, and then you get a new and better phone (at least in my opinion) just putting all of this out there just in case anyone wanted to take advantage of this!
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I recently turned my LG Thrill in to AT&T's insurance claims service, and they apparently don't make the Thrill anymore, so they are sending the Nitro HD at no additional cost! Just the deductible, and then you get a new and better phone (at least in my opinion) just putting all of this out there just in case anyone wanted to take advantage of this!
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Or you can hassle an get the s3.
I told them I wouldn't extend my contract unless I got to choose my own phone. They tried offering me the one x but I wouldn't take it.
I've also been a customer for 10 years so I have a little more room to argue.
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How did you get them to go along with that
I just got a thrill in the mail today to replace the broken one I had.....What did you have to say to them???? I hate this phone just because of the ghost call issue and I am done with it.
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Or you can hassle an get the s3.
I told them I wouldn't extend my contract unless I got to choose my own phone. They tried offering me the one x but I wouldn't take it.
I've also been a customer for 10 years so I have a little more room to argue.
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I was about to scream that you turned down a quad-core phone for a dual, and then remembered that there's not a single quad-core in the US consumer market as of now. I really wish the carriers would take the hint from their European divisions/brethren and open the market already. I'm happy with my Thrill, not broken (we'll see if that changes) and I'm not even with AT&T anymore sooo yeah.
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I was about to scream that you turned down a quad-core phone for a dual, and then remembered that there's not a single quad-core in the US consumer market as of now. I really wish the carriers would take the hint from their European divisions/brethren and open the market already. I'm happy with my Thrill, not broken (we'll see if that changes) and I'm not even with AT&T anymore sooo yeah.
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I actually got the S3. I know its only a dual core, but I honesty dont need a quad. The lack of removable battery or expandable memory on the one x was a killer for me. But now I'm stuck with AT&T for another two years
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Isn't the dual core Snapdragon S4 faster than all quad core processors on phones (Tegra 3, Exynos 4412) thus far? WHy would you want the quad cores given they provide less performance and consume more power while doing so?
Well I got them to see things my way .......They are sending me a Galaxy S II Skyrocket.....and they told me to keep my thrill............zero charge plus they are sending it to me over night at no cost also..........I am a happy with ATT..............WHOA did I just say that???????
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Isn't the dual core Snapdragon S4 faster than all quad core processors on phones (Tegra 3, Exynos 4412) thus far? WHy would you want the quad cores given they provide less performance and consume more power while doing so?
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You are technically correct, it does get a bit better on the numbers, however the quads, when overclocked just a little still beat out the dual-cores, and can be OC'd a little bit further due to application load being distributed to more cores (higher fault tolerance at higher clock speeds).
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Well I got them to see things my way .......They are sending me a Galaxy S II Skyrocket.....and they told me to keep my thrill............zero charge plus they are sending it to me over night at no cost also..........I am a happy with ATT..............WHOA did I just say that???????
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Would you possibly be willing to donate that Thrill to me so that I can see about restoring it and in turn donating it to a developer here such as Lestat? Or donating it directly to Lestat himself since you get to keep it anyways?
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You are technically correct, it does get a bit better on the numbers, however the quads, when overclocked just a little still beat out the dual-cores, and can be OC'd a little bit further due to application load being distributed to more cores (higher fault tolerance at higher clock speeds).
Would you possibly be willing to donate that Thrill to me so that I can see about restoring it and in turn donating it to a developer here such as Lestat? Or donating it directly to Lestat himself since you get to keep it anyways?
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No It has already been sold for 200 bucks and I am buying a google tab with the cash. I have already tried to give Dark another Thrill that I have here that has a broken screen and it would only cost 45 bucks to replace and he didnt want it. Dark has an SGS II now I think he is about as done with the thrill as the rest of us are.
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No It has already been sold for 200 bucks and I am buying a google tab with the cash. I have already tried to give Dark another Thrill that I have here that has a broken screen and it would only cost 45 bucks to replace and he didnt want it. Dark has an SGS II now I think he is about as done with the thrill as the rest of us are.
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You can't say that he likely wouldn't have wanted it, they were 2 completely different phones. One was a thrill with a BROKEN SCREEN, the other with no physical issues that required detailed and meticulous repair (of which there is no guarantee of success). I really hate when people compare apples to oranges...
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You can't say that he likely wouldn't have wanted it, they were 2 completely different phones. One was a thrill with a BROKEN SCREEN, the other with no physical issues that required detailed and meticulous repair (of which there is no guarantee of success). I really hate when people compare apples to oranges...
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Well I really hate it when people ask for free stuff then ***** when they don’t get it...My point is,,,, I made the effort to help this community and was refused. So how about you stop speaking on his behalf, because you don’t have a clue what went on in the conversation between him and myself, I have the Private messages I know what was said. I was giving away a 300 dollar device that needed a 45 dollar repair,oh and the detailed and meticulous repair you spoke of took me 15 minutes to complete. Yeah some of us have skills not just speculation. When he told me he DID NOT WANT IT. I sold that phone also. Why dont you purchase a phone from ebay and donate it to the cause.
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Well I really hate it when people ask for free stuff then ***** when they don’t get it...My point is,,,, I made the effort to help this community and was refused. So how about you stop speaking on his behalf, because you don’t have a clue what went on in the conversation between him and myself, I have the Private messages I know what was said. I was giving away a 300 dollar device that needed a 45 dollar repair,oh and the detailed and meticulous repair you spoke of took me 15 minutes to complete. Yeah some of us have skills not just speculation. When he told me he DID NOT WANT IT. I sold that phone also. Why dont you purchase a phone from ebay and donate it to the cause.
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I already have plans to donate my Thrill when I upgrade to a dev here on the forums. Already way ahead of you, already got the dev selected and they already said yes to receiving my Thrill. Don't think that I'm *****ing for no reason, ever. I intended to get the dev a Thrill a lot sooner than "sometime in the next six months," and have been ACTIVELY trying to either get one for free by getting somebody to donate, and I have even TRIED to purchase a used Thrill (multiple times) for this dev to work on, and been turned down because the seller wanted money sooner than later. So even though I was looking for it for free to donate to a developer sooner than my time schedule, I am still willing to SPEND MONEY on a dev here in the forums to "help the cause" as you say. My phone is "sometime in the next six months" because it's my ONLY GSM phone right now and I can't get the one I want until I save a little bit first.
I'm glad you can work on the delicate intricacies that are the internals of a phone without doing serious damage, you obviously have done it before successfully as the last phone I tried working on ended up becoming junk when trying to just replace a screen like you. Yes, I speculate a little bit on the difficulty level with a thrill, but that's based on my own past experiences with trying similar surgery, on a bigger phone.
if you guys could give me the number you are calling that would be awesome, I would like to try my luck for a One X. What were you guys complaining about when you called? ghost calls or a bricked phone?
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if you guys could give me the number you are calling that would be awesome, I would like to try my luck for a One X. What were you guys complaining about when you called? ghost calls or a bricked phone?
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I'm no longer with AT&T, don't have the number sorry. malebornin69 may have the number though.
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I'm no longer with AT&T, don't have the number sorry. malebornin69 may have the number though.
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I just called ATT tech support and told them about the ghost call issue....I jumped through all the hoops they wanted me to jump through, They sent me a replacement thrill and I had the same issue so I called back with the truth about this phone and jumped through more hoops and eventualy they put me on the phone with someone from a department called Resolution,,,, and they got me the new phone.......I never lied one time to them, I called with a real issue and they resolved it......It took 2 weeks but it got done in the end.....the number you wanted is 1-800-331-0500
LG thrill replacement
Well After talking to ATT after seeing this post. She is positive she can only send me an ATT lg thrill that i thought they didnt make anymore. i was hoping for an LG nitro to get out from under this mess of a phone. she did upgrade me to 2 day shipping but says she can only send the thrill.
My question for you guys is does it just show her the thrill on her screen and when it gets to logistics they will find they dont have it and send me the nitro or am i getting the same phone?
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Alex
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I decided to call them back and threat in to cancel my service and the issues they have gave me. i have been with att for 10 years. they lied about the phone and the updates when i got the phone when it first came out. and now they will not move an inch and only will send the thrill with no battery or back.
akwhite23 said:
Well After talking to ATT after seeing this post. She is positive she can only send me an ATT lg thrill that i thought they didnt make anymore. i was hoping for an LG nitro to get out from under this mess of a phone. she did upgrade me to 2 day shipping but says she can only send the thrill.
My question for you guys is does it just show her the thrill on her screen and when it gets to logistics they will find they dont have it and send me the nitro or am i getting the same phone?
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Alex
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I decided to call them back and threat in to cancel my service and the issues they have gave me. i have been with att for 10 years. they lied about the phone and the updates when i got the phone when it first came out. and now they will not move an inch and only will send the thrill with no battery or back.
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Just keep calling back with the same issues they will yeild...........They will send you another thrill ....thats what they did to me ..so let them then 2 days later after they have got the old one back call again with the same issues.....This will take some time like a couple weeks
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Just keep calling back with the same issues they will yeild...........They will send you another thrill ....thats what they did to me ..so let them then 2 days later after they have got the old one back call again with the same issues.....This will take some time like a couple weeks
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One phone call is not going to get you a new phone it will be more like 10 long calls w2ith you jumping through hoops. Oh and they will tell you all the way to the end that they can and only give you the same phone...trust me they play a good game............just keep calling back
I should def put a stock firmware back before I send back right?
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I should def put a stock firmware back before I send back right?
Sent from my LG-P920 using xda app-developers app
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i would suggest it
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don't threaten to leave. That only makes them more upset... be as nice and kind as possible while explaining your frustration with words... not decibels
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I live in the US and the phone works - but it's a Snapdragon, not an Exynos ( so ... better?) and I'm not really sure what to think now that I see the hardware model of it.
The only noticeable differences I could find are that handwriting defaulted to Chinese and the Chinese calendar seems burned into the Samsung Calendar app.
Anything I should look out for? Should I pursue a return through Amazon?
Samsung pay?
Try hard reset then immediately sideloading Samsung Pay 2.7.03 (apk from apkmirror) and Framework 2.7.51 see if spay will work.
If you have problems with language options in general, you can factory reset and set up your languages defaults from the very beginning (on the very first page, you will have a language selector, possibly showing Korean as a default choice, type the Korean writing and choose your favorite localization; this happens on any model by Samsung). This is highly recommended if you do not trust the vendor.
As far as I can tell, the main limitation of N9500 is localization of hardware-secured features: if you plan to use the (awesome) Samsung Pay, apparently you can do so only in Hong Kong so far (with N9500). As I understand, Samsung uses/experiments a more advanced system in Hong Kong, which you will not be able to use elsewhere. I have a N9500 and I want to try to spoof the model number in build.prop to see if one can cheat the phone to have Samsung Pay work everywhere.
Snapdragon vs Exynos is a mixed bag, depending on your workload. Exynos performs slightly better, Snapdragon will offer a faster web experience. In my opinion, no noticeable difference at all. However if you:
-Have a 64GB model
-Have a write heavy workload (quite rare, for instance you do some video-editing on phone or backup GB of data TO the phone every day)
exynos will perform noticeably better in these tasks since Samsung uses different NAND on the two models. For reading workload, again the difference is not noticeable.
Also, my guess is that you got N9500 for a better price: these are usually imported models from Hong Kong or UAE, with no official support. Importers likely got a much better price than the local Samsung offer, or maybe they avoided some import taxes via shady practices. If you paid the same as the official listing in your country, you may want to ask for a replacement regardless of the hardware.
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Just to clear out, in the message before I meant that both the conditions (64GB AND write heavy) need to be satisfied to have an Exynos preference.
I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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I haven't run into any actual problems yet (4 hours of use?) and I'm trying to avoid any modifications while I decide how to handle this... The whole thing seems shady, there's a promotional coupon stuck over the model number on the box. I feel like it was done intentionally for some reason.
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Well if you were sold a model different than the listing description and you are worried/not happy about it, get your money back and make sure you don't lose even a penny (teaching seller a lesson in the process since a lot of this purposeful shadiness seems to be happening even when seller knows).
Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Don't be upset. You might have gotten the only Snapdragon variant with an unlockable bootloader out the box. If you don't mind double checking this, go to developer options and see if there's an OEM unlocking toggle. Then download Crom and run it, it should unlock your bootloader.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Unfortunately, no such luck.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is seriously tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Snadragon models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Really? Damn, Samsung is really tightening things up, the HK and CN variants used to the only Samsung models that came with an official bootloader unlock tool/method.
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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Didn't people have to wait exactly a week after activation for that option to show up or something like that?
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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I don’t recall anything of the sort, but don’t hold that against me. My last Samsung device prior to the Note 8 was the S6 (which I despised). The S5 was Samsung’s last great and true user/developer/mod friendly device. Even though the design got a lot of hate, I quite liked it. It went to eight different countries with me, and never gave me grief even though I used it as an underwater camera countless times.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Yep double checked and there is a 1 week wait post activation for OEM UNLOCK option to appear.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-8-exynos-n950f-fd-oem-unlock-t3673140/page64
Not sure if applies to qualcomm variants too. Doesnt HK/CN by law require OEM UNLOCK? Read something along this line somewhere here.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Hey! That’s amazing news for OP. I believe HK/CN does require that by law. I remember when the S7 was released there, it looked so sleek without the Samsung logos.
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Yep it would be if it applies to Qualcomm variants and if it does it may only apply to HK/CN variants.
Maybe someone that has already had this model for 7+ days can confirm it for him.
The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
Damn yeah I would return it and get the exynos model you want oem unlock for sure ! I love my deep sea blue 256gb N950N its a work horse things were a pain at first but most the issues have been sorted out and its the best 1200$ i spent.
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The company I purchased it from refuses to advance-replace this with the phone I ordered and seems to expect me to pay to ship it back to them. This is probably going to turn into a dispute with Amazon, so I'm out another $900+ as I have to get into a new phone ASAP, and leave this one with zero wear.
I'm pretty convinced that I want the N950FD/S Aus, Europe & Lat edition of this phone despite living in the U.S. I don't want to suffer heavily locked bootloaders even for a Snapdragon and it seems there is more development for Exynos.
Please, though, tell me I'm wrong and that I should keep this phone that I dumped hours into configuring before catching on to the damn Chinese calendar embedded in the Samsung Calendar app :|
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If I were you, I would keep it. I’m 92% sure TWRP will pop-up for your device in the upcoming weeks. I don’t know if Samsung has released the kernel source yet, but once they do, I’ll be more than happy to compile it for you. I remember the same thing happened with the HK/CN variant of the S7. Holding out a week to see if OEM Unlocking shows up will be worth if it does.
Dont want to start a new thread so hopefully someone can help on here.
I ordered a N950fd but have received a N9500. It's currently sat in dubai waiting for a friend to bring back to UK.
Should i stick with it or get the N950FD instead? I would like to use Samsung pay but it's not a deal breaker as dont use it that much now anyway. Is there anything else i should be worried about?
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So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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So you ordered the Big Mac and got a Cheeseburger...
If you were at Macca's would you complain and want the right order? I know I would...
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Lol do you really think there's that much difference?
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Yes.....
Not only is there a difference, but I want what I ordered...
I just bought a "unlocked" note 8 and everything was clean when I checked it and everything works and is activated but when I was scrolling though the settings I saw under "knox" there's a Rent-a-center profile with the contact number and everything on it and had no idea why, So I've been doing research about what it means and a looking for a solution when I found out that the phone is though them and if it's not paid off they can remotely lock you out of it and I want to prevent that from happening because I paid alot of money for this phone! I had another note 8 before this one that i broke the screen on and it was locked to AT&T(which I don't have) so I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do? If anyone has any advice or knows what I should do please let me know!! Thank you!
If you own the phone, ie, paid for it all then I'd go back to where you got it from and tell them to take it off.
Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
OnnoJ said:
Contact seller and possibly even rent-a-center to check what status of phone is. If issues do exist, demand a refund of the seller.
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I already did that and they said it wasn't paid off fully and to contact the person I bought it from which I've already tried but nothing.. That's why I'm looking for a solution now before I get locked out because they said it's only a matter of time before it happens when the store it was rented from shuts it off and then I'm screwed. I didn't even know you could RENT A PHONE !
Limeybastard said:
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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....why would anyone do this.
xbmoyx said:
....why would anything do this.
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For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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Limeybastard said:
For folks that are less advantaged than us I guess. But in reality, I don't agree with it.
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For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.
".....I got help on here with rooting it and putting new firmware on it which worked. So I don't know if doing that again will take care of the issue or what I should do?"
No. Root isn't an option in this scenario nor is flashing new firmware.
It appears that Rent-A-Center utilizes a Mobile Device Management solution which, in turn, is dependent on KNOX.
With the current root option for the Snapdragon 835 & Note 8, we don't the ability to alter or remove the partition in question.
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There are services available ONLINE which MIGHT help you; look for yourself.
Even if you were able to remove the lock, they could still blacklist the device for non-payment.
This puts you back at square one.
Talk to Rent-A-Center directly and explain the situation.
Limeybastard said:
Wow, was curious how much they charge.
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God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.
Nick216ohio said:
God I feel violated just looking at that. Those places should be banned. I'd rock a $100 phone before I ever paid that crap.
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The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Guaranteed OP bought an under contract RAC phone. Phone is gonna get locked and op will be SOL.
Sounds to me like the person you bought it from pulled a fast one, phone is probably not even close to being paid off & he sold it.
Like AHE said, even if you were able to remove that RAC lock on it, they can still blacklist if that's the case (phone not being paid off).
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For $174/month you can get the phone in device installments and service from any carrier for less.
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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.
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Most of Rent-a-Center's clientele couldn't borrow a buck for a soda. They don't have the credit rating to get a phone at a more mainstream price.
And before anyone screams about RAC's "predatory" business model, consider that most of their customers got into the credit mess they're in by getting stuff they couldn't afford or thought they were too slick to not pay and get away with it. They're a match made in heaven.
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You have good points. But rent a center places are straight up predatory business. If customers credit not able to get phone on payment plan. Then straight out deny them. For the better off of person.
I would feel like I had no soul working and selling to people at places like that. Double price stepping over the line. Tripled price jesus christ that's insane! Those type of places and others should be banned.
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Limeybastard said:
The six months same as cash made me chuckle.
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Nothing like paying $500 over original price. Like I said rent a center and checkNcash type places should be banned. Jesus christ those companies are pathetic.
OP I feel really bad for getting shafted
I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested
If you were able to root it, install Titanium backup, there is a file that is installed by Rent a center. It cannot be unistalled..I tried to and it vanishes for a few minutes but is reinstalled. Even after device is paid off you have to call rent a center and get their loss prevention department and they will remotely remove it. Even when I rooted and installed a rom the file was there. Trust me on this, I was silly enough to get a device from them yrs ago and even after the 90 days same as cash it took them over a month to take the file off my phone.
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I believe the file is sec.abt
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Note 8 Rent a center locked
obyrd1983 said:
I've figured out how to make it work if you're interested
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Yes please share thanks!
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Limeybastard said:
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for my case they want shy of $1800 for a note 8
actually i bought a note 8 on ebay after 2 months use my phone was locked too with its was saying rent a center and asking for password
a friend of mine has commented on facebook post for someone who was saying he have sucessfully removed this lock
i did contacted him on his facebook he told me to send picture of the lock i did send it and he said he can unlock it he asked me for 90$ to remove the lock i accept and and paid him via skrill he asked for team viewer the logged to my pc then made the screen black and i do not know what he did then he tell me to do some steps and volla my phone was in download mode for 2 minutes then rebooted and i cant believe the lock was gone
this is the link where i found his post
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi/posts/2089441677959653
and this his facebook id page where i contacted him
www . facebook . com/ baselalzoupi
i cant post links because i just registered to make you guys know about it because i spent 1 month searching for solution
remove spaces in the link to make it work
Good for you! That guy probably works in rent a center!!