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How and Why I started liking my note

Hi,
So I got my note4 about a month ago and I can def say that I wasn't too happy after I got it.
It was sluggish(coming from Nexus5) , didn't last too much and frankly overall it didn't feel like the premium device I wanted to get after spending all my money on it. Started thinking that I should of gotten instead maybe the Iphone 6, LG3 or Nexus 6.
However after a few tweaks my phone has started to perform not less then excellent. There's no more lag(not even a bit in the interface/apps or anything..there's non including on the recent apps tab) and the battery life literally lasts for at least a day and a half as it supposed to be(usually get 5 SOT, guess more if I would of turned the brightness down). In general what I've done was to(or what I'm doing when I install a new ROM):
- disable DVFS through wanam and exposed
- install nova launcher
- debloat the device completely of unnecessary apps (pesonally i've used app master, great app to easily get rid of system app)
-install a custom kernel and Underclock and Undervolt- this is an important note: we don't really need a clock speed of 2.7 for anything else but benchmarks. it is a bit ridiculous when you understand how it works. so yeah, when I benchmark I OC to 2.8 put performance governor and get my 50K on antutu but on your day to day usage there is really no need, and in fact no lag -at all- when you underclock to something like 1.7 for example. why on earth do some people OC to 2.8 when they use fb most of the time? and if its for games, well I ran some intensive games and still didn't had any lag whatsoever.
- betterbatterystats & greenify : the ultimate combination - check whats your alarms.. and just disable them. on an average night I think I lose about maybe 2% of battery if not less. when my phone deep sleeps, it sleeps like a charm(and exposed modul ''amplify'' is a great addition too).
- disabled almost all of the apps that were booting up on startup, used exposed module boot manager to do it.
I hope this input of my personal experience will help anyone there that feels like I felt when I bought the phone. Other then that, you are more then welcomed to input your own tweaks and how you got the phone to react like you want it to

mine is not rooted, but its superfast, no lags, and the battery is amazingly good

I've been undecided between the note and nexus 6, mainly due to the reported lag on the note 4. This has given me a bit more confidence to go with the note

mys3 said:
I've been undecided between the note and nexus 6, mainly due to the reported lag on the note 4. This has given me a bit more confidence to go with the note
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the last time i used samsung when i first bought the first galaxy tab way back 2011! believe me that thing was the worst ever gadget i ever bought!
i told myself not to buy any samsung tablet and phones! after hearing horrible stories about touchwiz from all galaxy s series. Untill i have decided to go back to samsung through the galaxy note 4!!!
this monster made me a samsung believer again, i never experienced any statter or lag, this thing is a monster! fast and responsive, lots of useful features
like the multi window or the multitasking, s pen features and not to forget the crystal clear picture quality of the camera.
and mind you! the touchwiz launcher is more faster than the 3rd party launcher ive ever used!!!
and lastly you can disable those preinstalled apps!

Is your model the snap or exynos?

What's this DVFS and what Kernel did you install?

mys3 said:
Is your model the snap or exynos?
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SD, but it really doesn't matter. when both handsets get almost 50k on antutu both of them will obv perform well
kopkiwi said:
What's this DVFS and what Kernel did you install?
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flashed AEL 4.3 and Echo rom. would advise you to google regarding Samsungs DVFS as of course I'm not responsible to anything that you are doing with your device and you should know what you are doing

Mine's a SD version too, and as tal123 I run Echo rom on ael 4.3 kernel. However, I have not done any of the other tweaks tal has and mine is as smooth as they get. It kinda sad though tha sammy ships a premium phone with software that makes lag and stutter. Installing echo/ael made the day for me. It was ok on stock but this is heaven.

To upgrade or not to...Marshmallow

It has been 6 months i reverted back to kitkat and rooted and was happy playing and tweaking my phone. But off late phone is acting very bad on battery part. Battery reduces in no time even after all updates/syncs/gps etc everything being off as always.
So though about trying marshmallow but have no idea about its good or bad.
So can you guys comment on marshmallows battery life, camera enhancement fix, overall ui experiences etc??
So accordingly I can make my mind to upgrade.

For battery, check wakelocks on your phone. I installed no wakelock xposed to disable any apps that causing wakelock. And my battery is really good in kitkat, rather than mm.. cheers

nri_tech1183 said:
It has been 6 months i reverted back to kitkat and rooted and was happy playing and tweaking my phone. But off late phone is acting very bad on battery part. Battery reduces in no time even after all updates/syncs/gps etc everything being off as always.
So though about trying marshmallow but have no idea about its good or bad.
So can you guys comment on marshmallows battery life, camera enhancement fix, overall ui experiences etc??
So accordingly I can make my mind to upgrade.
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I am running SLiMM 1.9 and it is very very fast!
Battery life is good,getting about 4.5 to 5h of screen on time,camera is ok,no major difference,only if you use SLiMM I think it snaps photos quicker but it could be just a placebo effect.
Getting about 40k on AnTuTu which is pretty low but it could be just my device or a bug in AnTuTu.
Overall I would recommend to upgrade!

Dinkec27 said:
I am running SLiMM 1.9
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What is this "SLiMM 1.9" ??Is this any patch to be applied once we load marshmallow?

i waiting final beta

nri_tech1183 said:
What is this "SLiMM 1.9" ??Is this any patch to be applied once we load marshmallow?
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It is a custom ROM based on 23.5.0.575

If you're happy with current phone and nothing bugs you, leave it.
I'm staying on L because there's no single issue I have with it and I like the STAMINA mode. Sony won't bring the same STAMINA back, they just rebranded the low battery saver as that and Doze is halfassed compared to STAMINA. So basically there's 0 appeal for the upgrade. I don't care about version numbers, I prefer much more not having to hassle with the phone and rely on it.

madd0g said:
If you're happy with current phone and nothing bugs you, leave it.
I'm staying on L because there's no single issue I have with it and I like the STAMINA mode. Sony won't bring the same STAMINA back, they just rebranded the low battery saver as that and Doze is halfassed compared to STAMINA. So basically there's 0 appeal for the upgrade. I don't care about version numbers, I prefer much more not having to hassle with the phone and rely on it.
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The latest Slimm actually brought stamina mode back. I can get a good 2-3 days of average use with it off though.

zreon said:
The latest Slimm actually brought stamina mode back. I can get a good 2-3 days of average use with it off though.
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No, it didn't. They only changed the name of Power Save mode to Stamina mode.

How is Pie battery life on the Note 8?

Are people noticing any improvement or worsening?

It's been a lot better for me

Battery life for me is ok, with the official installed for the last 4 days. I'm upto 6 hrs sot on my usage and intend to leave it on charge overnight to complete any optimisations that may have not been done.
The call screen number flashing bug is still there though, but no other issues for me as yet.

i dont know guys... its lottery? i went down from 7h SOT to 2h... i did full wipe ect... i heard a lot of people that said it its better for them with battery and a lot of people saying its even worse than oreo

sunking101 said:
Are people noticing any improvement or worsening?
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I'm having about the same batt life as I had with Oreo, but I've upgraded to Pie 2 days ago, so I'm hoping it will get better in about a week when the OS settles down and I'm done with setting it up. I've always had the idea that after a major OS upgrade, it keeps doing a lot of things in the background, making it use more battery than expected. For iOS this is even verified by Apple, but I don't know about Android.

Im used pie for about 2 weeks now.
For me, battery usage for idle is better, im got better standby time than oreo, but once im start using it, it drop faster than oreo. Phone also feel little more hot than on oreo.
Im got battery leakage last 2 days and then i realised that putting video wallpaper on lockscreen eat the battery alive even screen is turn off.. Its just still played in background.
Im got constant 6 and half hour of SOT on pie and 7 hour SOT on oreo (from 100 to 20%) of my battery. I
Im not heavy user, just used chrome and facebook only. No games.
So far, phone is more responsive on pie but never been lack on oreo.
However, im monitor my battery charge capacity with Aida64, im got 3139 mAh on pie and 3220-3298 on oreo. Its seems its limit to 3139 only now for my phone.
By the way, im used Note8 with exynos processor.

Pretty much the same as on Oreo on my N950N running Pie.

Note 8 battery much better with pie...... Verizon
I was expecting the same like for years new update new battery drain. This is the best a battery has ever done. I use my phone alot I have stopped background data for the battery hungry apps. With device care. I set it to see a week at a time. I only done this with Facebook and messenger and chrome. Even before it's been great for me I hope that all of you get better battery life. I know it's hard to do things when you have tug battery charger.

Pie is a joke don't update you will thank me

oreo it's a lot better, but i use custom kernel on pie, "phantom kernel" and my battery life it's a lot better even better than oreo with stock kernel.

Not bad.

Some people here hating on pie, more power to you, but I've only had one minor bug with the sound "popping" in the "My Noise" app, turning off Wifi during use fixes it. Also, all the benefits such as Good Lock, Bixby Routines and dark mode more than make up for the one minor bug I have. FWIW I am on Sprint and Snapdragon model.

Curious. Considering updating soon. Need help manuals. OTA keeps saying "processing failed"

what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos?

what is the best ROM official and updated without compromise for Exynos? That improves battery.

Stock One UI.

willhemmens said:
Stock One UI.
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I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings

melchiar said:
I'm on stock One UI with latest OTA update. That is what you mean I presume? Battery life is average, not great. But I expect more with my usage and settings
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That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.

willhemmens said:
That's correct. We are always expecting more and more... One UI is the only ROM that fits your requirements, the Note doesn't have any official ROMs afaik. If you really want the best possible battery life, take a look at either Oreo Lineage or AEX.
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Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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If you think about physics of things, you'll start to understand that what is advertised often isn't possible. The battery is a 15.4 Wh cell, when you consider that the 9810 SOC on it's own can draw 3 - 4W, the display can draw 2W+, just these two together could flatten the battery in under 3 hours (15.4Wh / 6W = 2.56 hours). Sure the SOC is rarely at full load and the display is rarely going to be at full brightness on a white screen but the Note has a bunch of other hardware also consuming power.
I'm sorry if you paid $900 for a Note 9, I paid less than that a couple of days after launch, it's certainly not worth that kind of money now. Saying that though, IMO the Note 9 is still the best all round package. Other than perhaps the display, it isn't really the best at anything but manages to tick more boxes than anything else for me.
The reason there are no official ROMs is because no one wants to make them and AOSP Pie is proving to be rather challenging.

melchiar said:
Well we expect more and more partly because how they advert the new devices, this combined with the price.. pretty normal to expect what is promised.. But for couple of things this phone disappointed me more then when I bought my previous phone, the Lenovo P2 a 300$ phone.
The Note 9 is a 900$ phone, with average batterylife, a good rear camera, horrible front camera, good SPen features, awfull awfull super slow motion video, highest display resolution drains battery, enhanced video playback drains battery, shooting video in higher res loses autofocus and object tracking.. :silly:
So sad there are no official ROMs, what is the reason? I'll check the ROMs you suggested. Thanks
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I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.

gruuvin said:
I find the battery life is exceedingly better than my previous Samsung S7, and I maintained a setup on the 7 with no GPS, bluetooth, or wifi/data on except when needed (using tasker style logics to keep battery utilization down). Now on the Note9 with OneUI updated from a fresh factory image, I leave on my GPS and Bluetooth all the time and only toggle wifi when in an area where I want to be on wifi (using Automate by Llamalabs). I find that by the end of my day I have between 50-60% more battery life left with the Note9, compared to about 30% with the S7.
My suspicion is that a lot of people are not getting the best results because of all the apps and radios they have turned on (maybe even themes and brightness), and possibly taking an update to Android 9 without then performing a factory reset. I did not install anything before upgrading to Android 9, and so I have had ZERO issues.
I've also used a lot of custom ROMs on my previous Samsungs, and none as good (polished and bug-free) as this OneUI.
I just suspect people are not doing it right. That's usually the case with a lot of things.
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Well that also crossed my mind, but I'm very aware on how I use apps and radios.
Not a power user
Power mode Optimized
Screen resolution FHD+
Auto brightness ON
No gaming
Now and then Facebook lite, Netflix, YouTube, WhatsApp, Chrome
Very little Mobile Data (max half hour a day), default OFF
About 12 hours WiFi, default OFF
Bluetooth is standard off (max half hour a day)
NFC OFF
No high accuracy scanning BT or WiFi
AOD only on tap
Location ON

Question Battery Life, expectations?

Hi all,
As you know, I got this device a couple of weeks ago as a upgrade (birthday pressie).... and on the whole, I am might impressed with it. Compared to previous phones, this is awesome....
However, one odd thing I am experiencing... is battery life? Whilst I read reports of this device and the other I was looking at, Note 10 5G. Both had 5000mah batteries, and reviews RAVED about how good battery life is in them. Some even saying it can be used as a Battery Bank to charge other peoples phone.
However in actual use of the phone, I'm afraid to use it... for merely tapping a few icons, browsing web and running/opening camera... I literally am watching the percentages drain... I thought this thing would be rock solid, and can generally browse/mess around and the battery will slowly decrease...?
Don't get me wrong, if I don't touch it and leave it in standby it will claim to last at least a couple of days... or that said, running it as SatNav and not touching the screen on a 30min drive, it didn't drain the battery at all and stayed at 100% (which did surprise me).
But to me, what appears as light use, tapping icons and surfing around see's it draining fairly quickly. I dread to think if I was playing a high end game, it will prolly be gone in 5 mins.... Good job I don't do games... lol
Cheers, Lister

Morning Lister .. ya got your paddling pool ready for tomorrow lol
Mines been quite doing the same playing with gcam ( I haven't uploaded the XML yet , reming me to do it later ).
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 90mhz , as I've read elsewhere that seems quite normal as the phone has to refresh the screen faster than it would on 60 . Signal strength can be detrimental too , a bad signal means the phone tries harder to pull it in and uses more battery in the process .
When I've finally got everything set up I'll see how long I can get on a charge , still got to copy me 3 stooges collection on to it , all 65gb of it

The Mero said:
I have noticed the battery draining quicker when the screens set to 120mhz
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I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.

Hi The Mero,
Oh don't, I am not a sun lover at the best of times and these last few days/week's been killing me... lol.
I am, as we speak, practicing my Snow Dance !!! ;-) LOL
Yeah, seems odd that a camera can zap that much battery. I get it has to do a couple of things, active viewfinder, take the pic and then use processing power to render the output. But after reading all the rave reviews, this battery will last you into the next pandemic and all that... It to me, just seems to drain a little too quickly for my liking. I was expecting to get some fun time, without watching the battery drain down...
I think this screen can only go to 90mhz, but that said... I even have my set to the standard 60mhz. I not really played around with it, but it seems quick enough for me at 60mhz and every bit of battery helps. Like being in a heatwave and keeping ya aircon off, whilst sitting at the traffic lights with windows open... Gotta save that fuel/battery... ;-) lol
I did look at battery drain, and Mobile Standby did seem high, which is odd as its never been an issue with my older phones in same location. I'll keep an eye on that though, cheers....
Lister

Gun Striker said:
I think this phone has 90hz refresh rate, not 120mhz. Maybe u wrote it by mistake.
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Sorry I was thing of me old x3 NFC striker lol . Thanks for correcting me

Hi The Mero,
I just noticed this thread pop up, which is similar thing... It seems a few are getting the high Cell Standby for no reason at all... Although they appear to be on the updated version...??
"Cell Standby" battery drain on latest MIUI Global 13.0.12?
Hi, everyone. I bought a Redmi Note 11 Global a few days back and while setting it up, I was amazed at the battery life. It was at 56% when I opened it up, and throughout the entire setup process and after around 5 or 6 hours of screen on time, I...
forum.xda-developers.com
That said, I do have Calls over WiFi enabled, as it's the first time i've owned a phone that supports and is now available on my plan (PAYG lol). So I enabled it, just to try it out... lol
But apparently, this can be a zapper and cause the Cell Standby issue. Might try disabling it, and see if Battery Life improves....
Cheers, Lister

I'm on PAYG too , I turn off internet calling ( volte ) I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it ) . Anyways I knocked it off and calls were fine after that . So if you start getting the same issue give that a try . Plus battery issues could be down to the CPU not behaving . Russian forum had some with the CPU stuck at full throttle while others were stuck at lowest speed . All using different miui versions or custom ROMs , this is getting worse every time we read about it

This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.

some interesting reading .. miui updates
MIUI 13 Beta MI-V13.0.2 for Redmi Note 11 has been suspended due to a Google Play Server error

Obi_Wlan said:
This phone is in need of a custom kernel. I think the default CPU/GPU governor is not properly optimised. We don't want the CPU to fire up all its cores and constantly hit 2.4Ghz while playing candy crush.
Also, MIUI 13 is so restrictive and bland. We are losing controls and features with each new update.
This amazing hardware needs a divorce from its retarded software.
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In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now

Alex Zander-kun said:
In my case, the amazing hardware broke up with its retarded software and is currently married to this chick named Pixel Experience. The experience is way way smooth and is something we and the hardware totally deserves. Though yes we really need a custom kernel, I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Same here, unlocked bootloader and currently on Evolution X. Though all google apps and services are debloated so basically vanilla. I get 10 hrs screen on time with about 40 hrs standby

Hi All,
The battery on this device is really really shocking.... as in shockingly bad !!!
When I read about 5000mah ( basically double anything I've had prior ) and how good the reviews for battery life were on these devices. I had high hopes, I thought Id be able to tap away, causally wasting hours watching pointless YouTube and whatnot...
However here I am, re-arranging icons.... Configuring Applications (TruePhone and it's GAZZILION options), and watching the percentages just drop off, one by one by one.... I bet if I put a chocolate egg outside in this heatwave, it will melt at a slower rate than the battery drains...
Admittedly, I do have a few Apps on it... but no more than when I look at other peoples phones and it's not like I am putting heavy/tasking apps on. No gaming apps or anything like that... And to watch it go from 100 to 70 in what I think is a short time, is somewhat depressing...
I'll have to charge the ole 5000mah phone up and carry a couple 20,000mah at this rate... lol.
I've even de-bloated some of the system Apps in background... I may treat it to another wipe/reset and test it with barely any load and see what happens...
Cheers, Lister

The Mero said:
I had an issue on the X3 where you could hear the other person but they couldn't hear you . Some said it was a flaky mic and some said volte ( another name for it )
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I've had that issue on my Note 5 as well, and apparently I was not alone and it was in fact an issue that was introduced with Android 10. Turning off VoLTE did work for me, but that of course entailed a significantly worse call quality. I ended up switching to a different carrier and the problem went away. Sucks to see that the issue can still arise on current handsets.

I had a note 5 too , I can't remember if it did it or not, but I switched to a Moto g7 power and it did it on there too . I think your right about the network. I'm on 3 in the UK and never thought of the network being at fault , cheers for that

Alex Zander-kun said:
I don't know why Xiaomi hasn't released kernel sources for this device until now
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Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.

Schmuppes said:
Because they don't want to and there's not really anything people can do about it.
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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.

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Under GNU General Public License (GPL) it is mandatory to release a device's kernel source code if it is a modified version of the Linux kernel.
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I know that they legally have to. But which user will sue them if they don't is what I'm saying.