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I bought a Z1 at launch last September. A little later I sold it because I wasn't impressed with the camera, and the weak viewing angles didn't help much either.
However I have some "seller's remorse" as I somehow really liked the phone and its looks. Also the waterproof part was a major pro.
Since I sold my phone, the z1 has been updated to 4.3 and has perhaps also had other updates. My question now is, what has been improved since launch? Camera, battery life, general smoothness (project butter?) etc?
Any updates that makes the phone significant better now than it was at launch?
b-bert said:
I bought a Z1 at launch last September. A little later I sold it because I wasn't impressed with the camera, and the weak viewing angles didn't help much either.
However I have some "seller's remorse" as I somehow really liked the phone and its looks. Also the waterproof part was a major pro.
Since I sold my phone, the z1 has been updated to 4.3 and has perhaps also had other updates. My question now is, what has been improved since launch? Camera, battery life, general smoothness (project butter?) etc?
Any updates that makes the phone significant better now than it was at launch?
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You may have had a crappy screen, some have had a distinctly more limit viewing angle than intended. Go look for the thread on screens for more info there.
4.3 has been a bit of a pain for some - there's a known memory leak (that doesn't affect everyone) and some issues with the Bluetooth stack (again, not affecting everyone).
Personally, I have had no problems on 290 and am very happy with the battery life. The camera works great if you're not Superior Auto mode (and I've heard there should be improvements to SA in the future).
For me the only one thing was really improved, battery life. All other stuff was close to the same, no big improvements with the camera. Phone still working good. To me that's all.
Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
b-bert said:
Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
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going from 4.2.2 to 4.3 i noticed better battery life, way better camera(still not satisfied!).
battery life depends on usage and net signal strength. using stamina mode etc you can easy get over a day. on some days it even lasts 2 days for me.
b-bert said:
Thanks for your replies. Too bad it still sounds like a lottery wether you get a "good phone" or not.
Yet, you seem to agree that battery life has improved, which is a very good thing. I was surprised at the short battery life they managed to get out of such a big battery. Especially compared to what the LG g2 and Galaxy Note 3 managed.
My use is mainly Facebook, web browsing, texting (SMS and Messenger), snapchat and taking pictures. And occasionally a game of Candy Crush or Angry Birds GO. You think it he battery will last me through the day?
Also, if anybody else has something to comment about improvements from 4.2.2 to 4.3, please let me know. I keep browsing through the different threads in the general section, but it's hard to find posts covering this subject.
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i didn't notice any improvement to camera, and i actually think battery life was better on 4.2.2, but mybe i had a good setup then that i don't now...
Z1 battery life is superb, don't listen to them, i've looked around G2 forums, most averege users get 4.5 to 5 hours of screen time on a charge, the ones who debloat the phone heavely gets 6-7 hours. Z1 can easely get to 6 hours with stamina mode, so i don't see how G2 is any better.
and yeah, i usually get home after 14 hours worth of daytime with 60%+ battery, after being on tapatalk facebook whatsapp etc all day. so i think you should be fine
i can squeeze 2 hours of asphalt 8 easly aswell
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Hello Kabayan!
Loving it so far, great upgrade from the S7. That being said, the battery on my S7 is slightly better, probably due to the smaller display.
Running well on SoldierROM 2.1 + Xposed and Magisk.
Install Naptime + Greenify = Better battery life
Revontheus said:
Hello Kabayan!
Loving it so far, great upgrade from the S7. That being said, the battery on my S7 is slightly better, probably due to the smaller display.
Running well on SoldierROM 2.1 + Xposed and Magisk.
Install Naptime + Greenify = Better battery life
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From s7 to s9 is really a great upgrade, but I came from s5 and it's totally a big jump. Though, battery is almost the same with s5 (when I first got it). Camera is incredible, but when HDR is a little bit tricky, I am using the GCam port to use the HDR+ function and the photos definitely blows me away. One thing worth mentioning is the new stereo speakers with dolby atmos support! These are incredible, and now I've got to rewatch all the marvel movies so that to enjoy truly the experience with speakers. So far so good, but I don't look on rooting my phone atleast when samsung still supports this phone for software updates
@kyooo totally agree with you bro , me also im kinda craving to root this device but i think its better not to due to security patches and samsung experience update , im kinda bored on android stock i think samsung ui is improving
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@kyooo totally agree with you bro , me also im kinda craving to root this device but i think its better not to due to security patches and samsung experience update , im kinda bored on android stock i think samsung ui is improving
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Yep that's what I exactly thought of. I hope though that Samsung would fix battery drain in the exynos models, it sucks hard. I would get around 4hrs of SOT with heavy usage at WQHD+ and around 6hrs of SOT with social media apps only in power saving mode with only speed limiter on. But I dont want to use the power saving feature unless Im going on a full day without charge.
I think samsung will release a patch on drain , some says it something to do with poor cpu governor , if its only a software issue i believe samsung will fix this on their next update btw i got 6-8 hours sot with aod turned off and fhd+ turned on ive also set location to battery saving not precise location ,
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I think samsung will release a patch on drain , some says it something to do with poor cpu governor , if its only a software issue i believe samsung will fix this on their next update btw i got 6-8 hours sot with aod turned off and fhd+ turned on ive also set location to battery saving not precise location ,
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Yeep it's actually the governor, the person behind anandtech's website made a kernel which tuned down a little of the cpu power according to use and it turned out really well when it comes to battery life.
8 hrs is impossible to me, I only got 6hrs max with power saving mode on. Is that an s9+?
Hello, have you guys received the BRE5 update yet?
I've been given a white and gold 3T that was no longer needed. The battery is a bit shot and the screen has burn in on the status bar. I was thinking, if I send it off for a new battery by OnePlus, is it worth using?
My current phone is a Pixel 2XL, but I am missing the headphone jack and the cell reception isn't the best...
Is the 3T decent on the stock rom? Or is it better on a custom rom/kernel?
I only really use YouTube, Gmail, Netflix and messenger... Just want it to be smooth enough.
Thanks
The stock ROM updated to the latest security patch seems okay. YouTube is a bit laggy compared to my Pixel 2Xl.
I do prefer the size of the 3T though, it's really compact.
Would a custom kernel speed up the stock ROM? On apps like YouTube?
Also, I have managed to get the WiFi calling option to appear in settings, but from memory, I don't think it actually works? I am on the 3 UK network.
I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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I sent mine a couple of months ago for a new battery and it's 100% worth it.
Custom kernels do speed up the stock ROM but your battery life might suffer a bit., so if you want the best experience I'd suggest a custom ROM based on Pie (e.g. Havoc/Luis' Resurrection Remix). Q ROMs are good enough but most of the better ones (as far as battery life is concerned) don't support device encryption yet.
I cannot comment on WiFi calling as I don't use it at all.
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Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
gman88667733 said:
Good to know, thanks.
Would that be a Pie custom ROM and a custom kernel?
My only concern with custom ROMs is that I use banking apps and other apps that then may not work when rooted or on custom firmware. Does Magisk get past this? I have been using the 3T this morning and other than the unusable battery, the phone is quite nice. I like the size, the performance is decent enough (I expect it'll improve on a custom ROM) and the screen is brighter than my Pixel 2XL. It is definitely slower though, apps like gmail take a couple of seconds longer to load, but I am never in much of a rush!
How much did OnePlus charge you for a battery replacement? Can it be sent off to them when on a custom ROM, or does it need to be fully stock for them to do any work on it?
Thanks.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Havoc/Resurrection Remix etc are custom ROMs which come bundled with their own custom kernel. Mind you, Pie versions of custom ROMs are mainly to be found in their up-to-date threads (even if they're updated for the Q versions). Check the most thanked posts on the sidebar in the Havoc thread for an easy way to get to the updated Pie ROM with the latest security patches.
Magisk does pass CTS and banking apps/Google Pay work in my case, but it does need a module and some editing in order to work. The MagiskHide Props Config module does that job, you'll need to configure it - selecting OnePlus as brand and 3T as model, latest update, works though. Here's a quick link to the module's thread with info etc. You'll also need Busybox (available again as a module in Magisk) in order to get the Props Config module to work.
The battery replacement was free even though the initial quote was around 36€ so around 30 quid - don't know why, might have been because of the free out-of-warranty camera replacement I requested as well. I'd suggest doing that too, the original OP3 and 3T cameras are known to stop focusing after a while and OnePlus offers a free fix even if the phone is out of warranty.
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Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
gman88667733 said:
Okay, thanks again. A battery is about £15 online and replacement is very easy, so I am not sure whether to do it DIY or get them to do it and hope they may do it for free if I claim to have camera issues? (it focuses fine at the moment...)
I've had fairly good experiences with Resurrection Remix in the past when I dabbled with ROMs on my Nexus 6P (I stopped when I got my Moto Z Play as it never really needed it) So I'll give that a go tonight and see how it performs. The battery truly is shot, my partner who owned it before always had it at 100% brightness and used it whilst charging, so it degraded very quickly. As did the OnePlus 5 I gave her last year.!!!
I wish screens were cheaper for it as it has severe burn in on the notification bar, due to it being used at full brightness all the time... but the rest of the phone is in mint condition, so it seems daft to pay a fair amount of money to get rid of some burn in...
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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You're welcome! I chose the RMA way just to be extra safe, I wanted an OEM battery after reading mixed reviews concerning third party batteries (the general consensus is that they're not as long lasting, but the ones from ReplaceBase should be at least half decent) and the price difference has been worth it, for now. My autofocus was just starting to malfunction when I applied for the RMA, you could try and give it a shot.
Yeah, screens are expensive and the chances of getting an LCD display or a flickering screen when using a custom ROM are rather high and not worth the price if the burn-in doesn't bother you that much.
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Is it just autofocus that is the issue? Tap to focus works fine. Autofocus does seem a bit temperamental....
What is your battery like post-replacement?
OnePlus customer service say they will replace camera free of charge (it doesn't seem too bad, but may as well?) And they will replace the battery for £24.50
Not a bad price really!
Assuming I can get WiFi calling to work, I think I will get it replaced. As long as I can get 5 hours SOT out of it across a mixed usage day, that'd be the maximum I'd ever need. I rarely ever go over 3.5-4 hours SOT on any day on any of my phones.
That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
TheZorg said:
That's not a bad price at all!
SoT is, well, extremely subjective but I usually get around 4.5/5 hours SoT if mainly outdoors on LTE. WiFi, on the other hand, I can easily get around 6.5 to even 7 hours SoT. That's mainly Reddit/YouTube/Telegram/a bit of Instagram.
Autofocus started getting way more erratic than usual, tap to focus sometimes did nothing - this will generally degrade to a point where the camera won't even focus in manual mode. Also, backup your data before sending the phone (and maybe leave it on stock OOS). You'll basically start fresh with a locked bootloader and OOS 9.0.6.
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Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
gman88667733 said:
Oh wow, really? That is better that I would have imagined it would get!
I am hoping it may work out if I stay on stock as I do prefer sticking to stock these days, but if not, I will give RR a go.
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Stock shouldn't be that far off those numbers. Hope you'll enjoy it!
Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Are they still giving free fix for the camera in OnePlus 3?
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Yes. I was told yesterday by OnePlus that they will fix it for free even though it is well out of warranty
gman88667733 said:
Here's hoping!
What sort of a performance increase would there be in RR over stock? Noticeable?
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Sorry for the delay - RR, Havoc and custom ROMs in general would both feel smoother and more battery-friendly over stock, but I don't know if it's that huge of a difference. Haven't really tried Pie OOS that much but it felt like there was a bit more stutter when compared to custom ROMs.
Hi guys!
The problem
I currently have a base model Galaxy S22 Exynos and everything has been fine except battery life. I'm thinking of getting a Pixel 7 and I need your help to decide if it would be worth it. I have already disabled 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
My usage
I love listening to music on spotify, bt headphones, I use a lot of discord, messenger, and instagram chat, watch a lot of tiktok and youtube videos, and browse chrome. I commute and use 4g a lot. With my current usage the S22 battery discharges really fast.
S22, the good and the bad
While I love a lot about my S22, especially the high refresh rate screen sith symmetrical bezels, the battery on this phone is just plain bad and can not get me reliably through the day without battery anxiety. I feel miserable having to micro manage the battery in order to not run out of battery by the end of the day.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant, unique body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While according to dxomark and gsmarena battery drain tests the P7 should have slightly better battery life, I have also read that it doesn't translate to significantly better battery life IRL usage. I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
So should I get rid of my S22 in favor of the Pixel 7? Do you think it would give me better battery life?
Thanks people
Edit: I bought a bluetooth headphone and listen regularly to music on spotify and mobile date when commuting to work or uni, and battery has been significantly worse. Also edited the post to be more readable.
blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Software updates do mess up the Pixel 7 but with the February patch, I have been getting good battery life. I don't know how much SOT I get from my phone since I just charged it at the time I am writing this but every time I have 100% before I go to school, I always end up with about 50-70% by the time I get home and for the late nights around midnight, I end up with 20-40% left of battery life. To me, that's good enough for my usage since I don't game on my Pixel.
This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
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Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.
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This is my battery for Pixel 7:
It took some optimizing to get it good (Stock Google) but i'd say about 2 to 3 days on one charge is no problem with normal use (no gaming).
Have the adaptive battery off, it doesn't let phone go to deep sleep.
The 0.6% per hour while screen is off is amazing for the Tensor G2 chip.
Quite stong battery i'd say:
By the way TikTok sends massive bursts of your data sometimes. I verified with this my router and it drains battery quite alot. Just use browser version.
And i'm using 2022 August version of phone software.
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It only seems to drain the battery when I'm actually using the app, so that's not really an issue because I'm in bed most of the times.
What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!
blackrubi said:
Hi guys!
I got really fed up with how quickly my Galaxy S22 (Exynos, base model) drains even with 5g and aod disabled, did most of the optimizations in the S22 thread but still, it can not last through a full day with what I would consider light use but you tell me.
I commute a lot so half of the time im on LTE and usually use the following apps: Infinity for Reddit, Instagram, Messenger, Tiktok, Youtube, Chrome. I'm attaching a screenshot of my most impressive SOT (Although I'm usually getting 4-5) where I went from 100% to 4% and you can see what kind of apps I use on a general basis. I use 2sims and the second sim gets mediocre signal strength.
https://prnt.sc/GL09NBrv4e-r
Standby time is good, with special bixby routines that puts my phone into airplane mode during the night, but when the display is on and I actually use it, it drains so insanely quickly. And I'm not even listening to music!!!! Imagine if I actually used spotify and a bluetooth earphone, I guess I would have to keep my phone plugged into a powerbank all day? I can not even imagine what would happen if in the afternoon I would go out with my friends but would have to go home first to charge my phone or risk it running out of battery.
I am looking to buy a Pixel 7, because it ticks most of what I want in a phone:
- Good photos
- Snappy performance
- Very clean UI (although might be too clean with little customization options)
- Elegant body
- High refresh rate amoled screen
So how has been your Pixel 7's battery life? While I have read that the P7 should have a slightly better battery life, I have also read that software updates regularly mess it up. Also, I don't want to upgrade if the P7 will only give me 30 more minutes of SOT, because there are a lot of things I love about the S22. S23 is too expensive atm.
Do you think I would be able use all my applications including listening to music with bluetooth headphones, browsing and social media? I need a phone that lasts me from morning to evening and does not give me battery anxiety. I want to be able to use my phone more, which the S22 can not do.
Thanks people
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Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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What about getting a wireless charging ring? Might solve your current dilemna!
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You are right and that is exactly what i was thinking. There exists a couple of magsafe wireless powerbanks that I could use and I already have magsafe rings that I can attach to any case I want.
But
1. I don't think the powerbanks would actually fit, because they would be blocked by the camera bump so they wouldn't sit flush with the back glass.
2. I don't want to play this minigame where i micro manage my phone to see where when and how I can charge it. I am also not into randomly whipping out a powerbank that's twice as thick as my phone because it can't hold a charge for more than a few hours.
Hence, I've decided to switch.
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Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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Unfortunately, the first 2 are not available in my country and the Oneplus 11 is above my budget.
I am aware that Google's version of android has it's limitation, however, I love the clean, bloat-free UI and the phone looks so insanely cool! It also has relatively thin bezels, good high refresh rate screen. It ticks most of my criterias for a phone just like my S22, the only thing that keep's me from switching is not knowing how much better the battery life would be.
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?
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I love the clean, bloat-free UI
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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
blackrubi said:
Although I do have to say that from 100-7% I got 6h 26m of SOT (Lots of tiktok, instagram, chrome, discord, infinity, messenger and tinder) and 21h 7m standby, so perhaps maybe I'm the one being out of touch how long batteries should last?
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I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.
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If you spend a little bit time, any OEM version of Android can be made super clean. And the several built-in useful features that are not available on Pixels will make the overall experience much better.
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The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
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I'm pretty sure the Pixel 7 won't last this long, i.e. you are sure to see disappointment if you switch to it from your current phone.
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I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month. According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.
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The Pixel Launcher looks the best by far in my opinion. I am aware that custom launchers exist buy they can only mimic the real experience to a degree.
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I'm not talking about launcher features at all. There are several features built-in at the software level on OEM builds such as Samsung's OneUI, OnePlus' Oxygen OS, iQOO's FunTouch OS, etc. that do not have a solution using 3rd party apps. So Pixel users will have to live without these features, and it is a difficult proposition for those who come from other brands.
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I hope I can gaslight myself into thinking that I'm being unreasonable and this is absolutely fine battery life before I get my paycheck next month.
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6 hours of SOT with 20 hours of standby is quite good by today's standards. I don't think Pixel will last this long. With some Chinese brands like iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus, etc., you can expect to get an extra hour or two of battery life.
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According to dxomark, gsmarena and battery drain tests, the Pixel 7 should be much better for browsing and social media.
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Online tests do not usually represent real life usage.
TheMystic said:
Pixel phones are basically Android equivalent of iPhones. By that I mean you'll miss a lot of useful features if moving from other brands.
Pixel phones are just about their cameras. Although cameras are a very important consideration, there are several other equally (may be more) important things to consider when evaluating a smartphone.
The so called 'clean' or 'Stock Android' experience doesn't translate to better performance or battery life. On the contrary, they are actually worse compared to competition. The UI is overrated and cannot compensate for the lack of so many useful features present on Samsung and all Chinese brands.
If you are fine with good cameras (i.e. being absolute best isn't a requirement), you can consider Vivo X90 Pro, iQOO 11, OnePlus 11, etc. since S23 is ruled out for its price.
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I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.
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I totally do not agree at all with this.
I've been using the pixel 5 until recently and had all OnePlus devices up until the 5t. They were great and eben superior to the pixels.
Now I use the pixel 7 pro and it's absolutely amazing in pretty every aspect I can think of.
I only wished it was smaller and made of aluminum, just as the 5 was.
Anyways, before purchasing the p7p,I tried the s22 and hated it pretty much immediately.
That thing is cluttered with tons of software no one needs. Yes, there are dinner features that's might be useful, but not many. And if I want to, I can always find similar apps on there playstore.
What I can't do, is get rid of most of these apps, as they are baked into the system.
Comparing the s22 and the p7p I found the pixel much snappier, which is ridiculous, considering the in theory much more powerful hardware.
Battery life on the s22 was ok, but not brilliant on WLAN. Maybe 6 hours of sot with mostly reading on website and streaming media.Battery life.
Battery life on the p7p in WLAN was about 10-11 hours!
I can't say though how good it is outside of wlan as I only own it for a couple days and still use my old phone until I have all logins etc ready.
Anyways, I'm not missing any relevant features on the p7p, photos are great, it's snappier, than the s22 and updates come all the time.
My recommendation is to get the p7 or 07p instead of the s22.
The only downside really is the size.
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The most important benefit of having a feature built into the system is the quality of output. Third party apps do not always provide the same experience. That is also because of restrictions placed on them. System apps have a higher privilege set than user apps. Take for example, Scrolling Screenshots. Or Call Recording.
This is why I prefer OEM builds over Stock Android because 3rd party apps fail to provide quality output, both due to Android restrictions as well as due to lack of proper optimizations.
I have seen several reviews of Pixels and don't remember seeing anything that makes them stand out in terms of performance or battery life. So the whole purpose of having a 'clean' software is defeated.
That said, I have written a post where I have compared the software features of various OEM builds. Since I don't own a device from each brand, I need confirmation from real users of respective devices.
There are about 25 features that I really look forward to on my smartphones, and the lack of availability of some of those are indeed deal breakers for me. For example, lack of gesture support for system navigation when using 3rd party launchers on Xiaomi devices alone is a reason why I wouldn't buy them!
As far as Pixels are concerned, there is only one feature that they have that no other phones have: offline transcription with voice recordings. But Pixels lack many features that other OEM builds offer, enough to rule them out in the purchase decision.
Can you tell me which of the features listed there are available on Pixel phones? This will give clarity on what to expect from Pixel devices.
Here is the link:
Comparing Android 13 features of different OEMs | XDA Forums (xda-developers.com)
how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Sorry bro, but this was painful to read. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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how u get 6.5h SOT and 20h standby on s22? all wifi? my s22 like ****, and even my pixel 7 cant get beat ur s22. my pixel only like 4.5h SOT and 20h standby I don'thabe WiFi.
so I don't recommend u downgrad ur phone to pixel 7.and I only use LTE, I don't using 5G, if I open 5G, this phone gonna burning. I do have customized ROM and kernel. just like TheMystic saying, i dont think Pixel 7 will last this long
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Wait.... this is considered good SOT? Have I been living under a rock? I will **** my pants if watching videos and social media / browsing infinity reddit is considered heavy usage to the point that it is surprising that I got 6.5h SOT.
Most of it was on Wi-Fi, around 30% was on mobile data (4G). I have 5G disabled as my mobile carrier doesn't support it. I have also disabled a bunch of apps through adb, disabled execution of cached apps, most of my apps are in deep sleep and I don't have any applications installed that I don't use. I also use bixby routines to minimize overnight drain. I also have adaptive battery enabled. I also have bixby routines to turn on power saving mode when using power hungry apps. I'm on One UI 5.0 and will not upgrade to 5.1 because of insanely buggy software. That's it
The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.
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The battery life questions about the Pixel 7 still stands, and I am looking even more into getting rid of my S22 as battery life has been significantly worse after getting a bt headphone and listening to music.
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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.
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My answer still stands. Don't expect magic from Pixel 7. The battery life you quoted for your S22 is what we see usually in premium phones, although it would vary depending on the quality and number of apps installed.
You can consider Motorola phones. Their cameras are very good and will give you 'Stock Android' like experience (aka lack of many useful features), since iQOO, Vivo, OnePlus and Xiaomi phones are probably not selling where you live.
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It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.
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It's uni season so I'm on the go much more often. I don't get nearly as much SOT as I have previously. My questions wasn't if the S22's battery life is okay but rather if the Pixel 7 could give me more autonomy.
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Pixel phones are only about their cameras. There is nothing special about stock Android or their so called 'clean' software (I have already explained why that is so). And you get great cameras (if not absolute best) with other brands too.
Have you considered doing a factory reset of your S22? That might help. Also try and stick with installing only the essential apps that you use regularly.
I might also add something here. I can relate to how you feel. You have kind of tuned your mind to get the Pixel 7 now. If you can resist this urge for a month or two, the desire to buy it will fade away.
The reason I suggest you don't make the switch is primarily because I think it won't serve the purpose you're looking for. Or at the very least, won't justify losing money on the S22 and spending on getting the Pixel 7, unless there is a really good deal on offer.
I picked this phone up as secondary device/work phone. I've had it for about 6 months now, after spending some time trawling reviews, and I find myself dissapointed.
I have updated the firmware every time to see if issues are resolved, however I am still not 100% happy.
My main issues are as follows:
Battery life seems really random, even with very little running, especially for a 5000Mah battery.
Performance feels heavily capped
I feel like the hardware of this phone just isn't being properly utilised, or has been performanced capped (maybe to try and prevent taking market share from the company's higher end devices). My personal mobile is an Oppo Find X2 Pro, using a Snapdragon 865, and whilst some stuff is noticeably fast and as snappy as I'd expect from the Snapdragon 888 in this phone, other things just feel slow or stuttery. Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings.
If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix. There is no way the Snapdragon 865 should be outperforming the 888, but it is. The underlying OS is very similar as Oppo and Realme are part of the same group, to the point they even use the same game toolkit, but despite all this and the better hardware, the Realme is outperformed by the older Find X2 Pro.
Am I the only one getting this experience?
it is a great phone but I agree to you at the most
For me the best problem is the Os .
The apps is free to do what they want without a capable phone manager to stop them.
I also have this phone since it came out, very disappointed! Bad battery, heating, low performance in most apps, camera colors, audio etc.
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Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings. If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix.
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Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
@Lightning- , are you talking about pixelos from this site? https://pixelos.net/download/porsche
Can you also point to a tutorial on how to get back to stock after flashing pixelos?
Yes, this one. There is also LineageOS rom but it just keep bootlooping on my side for some reason.
Revert to stock : https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/collection-of-ota-packages.4542941/post-88558929 + https://github.com/italorecife/OppoRealme-OFP-Flash
For me it is the battery life and the lack of modification to the rom
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Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
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This is really informative, thank you. I just wanted to ask if the microphone problem that this phone had is fixed when using Pixel OS?
friends, I'm on rmx3311_11_A.13 software right now and I don't like it especially charging and heating. there is rmx3311_11_A.22 update now, should i install it
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I picked this phone up as secondary device/work phone. I've had it for about 6 months now, after spending some time trawling reviews, and I find myself dissapointed.
I have updated the firmware every time to see if issues are resolved, however I am still not 100% happy.
My main issues are as follows:
Battery life seems really random, even with very little running, especially for a 5000Mah battery.
Performance feels heavily capped
I feel like the hardware of this phone just isn't being properly utilised, or has been performanced capped (maybe to try and prevent taking market share from the company's higher end devices). My personal mobile is an Oppo Find X2 Pro, using a Snapdragon 865, and whilst some stuff is noticeably fast and as snappy as I'd expect from the Snapdragon 888 in this phone, other things just feel slow or stuttery. Perfect example is games. In many games, like Diablo Immortal, the older Find X2 Pro sits around 60FPS with few issues and reasonable settings.
If I try to run the same settings with this phone, I'm greeted with a much more variable 40-60 FPS, which no amount of tweaking the settings seems to fix. There is no way the Snapdragon 865 should be outperforming the 888, but it is. The underlying OS is very similar as Oppo and Realme are part of the same group, to the point they even use the same game toolkit, but despite all this and the better hardware, the Realme is outperformed by the older Find X2 Pro.
Am I the only one getting this experience?
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On Android 13 the CPU has been capped to 80°c which otherwise would be 95°c, this is done in order to reduce overheating, this increases battery backup however reduces performance by 10-20%, there is a magisk module I've made that unlocks this cap if you want I can send
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Can't believe no one is talking about this..
Got mine weeks ago with first release of Android 12 pre-installed (from October 2021). Performance was amazing, Diablo was buttery smooth even stupidly maxed-out. Did only one OTA update (still Android 12 after that), it killed performance from every games even at low settings, stutters was everywhere, even at 30FPS cap, unnaceptable. Then did OTA to Android 13, same even with factory reset. Was thinking of returning it at that point.
Then, tried to unlock bootloader to clean install the oldest Android 12 available from here. Games was again buttery smooth, but camera app was crashing and OS had weird glitchs, soo.. was stuck here, disapointed. Tried using the newest Adreno GPU Drivers with root, same garbage performance from games. Debloated the entire rom, same. What's strange is that benchmarks results like 3DMark doesn't show any degradation from good A12 to bad A12/A13.. was thinking it could be refresh rate related but even tweaking with SmartHertz didn't help.
I'm now on Pixel OS (available from the official website), performance is amazing, original GT2 camera app is pre-installed (quality is exactly the same as ColorOs), have unlimited space usage from Photos in original quality, and everything is working. You also don't need SmartHertz to get everything in 120Hz (like Brave), "adaptative" resfresh rate is working too (60/120Hz). Battery life, got 12H SOT on a three days basis with mostly browsing usage, some photos, little games, and basic power saver on, ended at 7%. Pretty happy now, it's surprisely good for a rom this early.
So yes, all of this crap is ColorOS related. Something got broken somewhere at the A12 2022 timeline.
They unfortunately halted (momentarily ?) their unlock server so..
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Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
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Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
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I suggest you stay on Realme UI since it seems to be more stable than any other AOSP based rom rn, it has better battery backup and camera quality too, but the choice is yours
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Have you encountered any issues so far with pixel os, because I'm scared of changing the rom of the device.
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Almost three weeks with POS. I don't have any issue at all, better than stock, better battery life, no stability issue (no FC or randoms reboot), and camera is the exact same (tested with two GT2, one with POS and one with RUI 13 locked bootloader, there is ZERO difference in photos..). It has unlimited storage too with Google Photos at original quality (even with RAW), wich is a big plus by itself, no root required.
LineageOS is available too but it always bootloop on mine so can't test it.
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Almost three weeks with POS. I don't have any issue at all, better than stock, better battery life, no stability issue (no FC or randoms reboot), and camera is the exact same (tested with two GT2, one with POS and one with RUI 13 locked bootloader, there is ZERO difference in photos..). It has unlimited storage too with Google Photos at original quality (even with RAW), wich is a big plus by itself, no root required.
LineageOS is available too but it always bootloop on mine so can't test it.
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Will I be able to return to RUI in the future if I install a custom rom? (And still get the updates). Also How did you unlock the bootloader. The deep test app doesn't seem to work.