External Storage - Android One - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

Ok...I migrated from the Samsung S5 to the Moto X4 Android One variant and am trying to get the external SD card to work like it did before. Previously, I was able to run multiple apps from the SD card and take pics which used the external SD card as the storage location.
Now on the Moto (running Oreo), that just isn't an option. None of the apps that are running allow me the move to the SD card via application manager (such as electro droid) and for the life of me, I can't find any settings in the camera app (Moto Camera 2) for anything including storage location. I can access the SD card fine via several file managers. Am I missing something?

I don't think you can put apps on the card, but you can set the camera to store pics and videos there. Swipe in from the left side of the viewfinder screen to bring out the settings menu. I don't know why they hid it like that.

Thank you, thank you! Just to recap so that the web crawlers can find this: To access Moto Camera 2 settings, swipe from left to right when in the app.

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Internal vs SD menory?

Is there anyway to FORCE the apps to use the MicroSD memory instead of the Internal storage?
It seems every app I've installed ( Dropbox, Google Docs, Evernote, etc) uses the internal memory. I have a 32GB MicroSD that seems to be useless right now. I tried moving all the apps to SD, but they still use the Internal Memory to store cache/files
I have yet to see a fix for this as well. The way I work around this is if the app saves files to the internal storage there is usually a setting in the settings menu that will allow you to change where it saves files. For instance with the TapeRecorder app. It automatically saves files to the sdcard (which Motorola stupidly named the internal storage for). I go to the settings and change the "sdcard" to "sdcard-ext", then it works!
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
Sorry this next generation android phone just like Droid X it has dedicated app memory. That memory is used strictly for those apps. U can put 500 apps and not run out of room. SD card is used for media music movies etc
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Groid said:
For the time being, you can use the SD-EXT microsd card for music, videos, pictures, TiBU backups, downloads, etc., but in some cases you need to change some settings to do so. Apps cannot be installed on the external microsd card for now and you should make sure you 'move to phone' any apps which are check marked in the 'media' area or you are subject to losing them.
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Is this why When I selected "Move to Media Area" the application shortcut disappears from the "All Apps" menu?
I moved 2 games to the "Media Area" and now they are gone... they are still installed, but I have no way of accessing them. (I know they are still installed because when I went to reinstall, it said something about it replacing an app thats already install)
After researching more, and fumbling through the phone I discovered that Motorola has deemed the 8GB of Internal memory as an SDCard.
Another FAIL for Motorola, and I doubt there will ever be a fix for this. I could be wrong, but I don't think so.
Stated on the Motorola Forums:
Folks, it's the storage naming system in Android. If you go to any forum for any phone with internal and external memory you'll see the same complaints. There are multiple threads about it here.
Even though in Motorola's file manager you see "internal phone memory" and "SD Card", the internal memory is actually "sdcard" and the external is "sdcard-ext". Like I said, it's like this on every brand of phone with this set up.
So, what's happening is the apps are saving to the internal memory because it is, in fact, the SD card. Motorola has tried to remedy this confusion by discontinuing to say "move to SD" and instead now calls it "Move to Media area".
And no, your external SD is not useless. You can still set your photos from the camera to save directly to your external, you can still put music and movies and all kinds of media on your external and your phone will see them just fine. This is why there is a 16GB card included with your phone, so you can use it for media and if you want to move your apps off of the system memory to save space you move it to the 8GB internal area. Of course 8GB is still plenty of space for apps and other media as well
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EDIT: BFirebird101 stated this to, I don't know why, but when I was scrolling it passed over his post. Didn't mean to restate what he said.
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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Tornlogic said:
I've been *****ing about this problem for weeks and nobody seems to care, and it also seems to not bother anybody either.
Its a crock of sh1t. Yea you can save media files on the real SD card, but how many apps actually find them? Smooth move Motofùckingrola!
Fortunately with some coaxing and about a month of messing around, DoubleTwist can find media files on sdcard-ext. Its about the only worthy music player that can.
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The Stock Music App seems to find the music files just fine on the MicroSD (just add some to try) and the Gallery Finds the Pictures. But I don't give a damn about Music or Pictures.
I have 123MB of the "Internal Memory" (SDCard) left - after I loaded all my work documents (spreadsheets, powerpoints, etc) & E-books. Right now I have to Move the file from the SDcard (InternalMemory) to the SDCard-Ext(MicroSD) after I've edit it and reuploaded it to Google Docs, then if I want to Edit it agian, I have to move it back to the SDCard(Internal Memory) Just so Google Docs will see it again.
Stock? That's okay, I'll pass. I froze those apps with TiBackup.
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i use videovault and when i pulled my video vault folder from my old backup and loaded it to the external SD, the VideoVault did not find them. There is no way i will load 4GB of videos into my Internal 8GB card just so i can haz my pronz!
What I noticed is this seems to be very similar to how the Xoom and Honeycomb handles sdcards and internal storage (minus the fact that we still cant write to sdcards on stock honeycomb....) so it could be Motorola setup the phone this way for a smoother migration to Ice Cream Sandwich when it comes out?
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
You would think with all the Smart/Nerdy People on this site, someone would come up with a way to Rename the partitions Motorola has setup.
If it was just possible to rename the "SDCard-Ext" To "SDCard" ...
The reason you have no issue is Asus did a hack mod to get the SD card to work. Moto did the same on European xooms but on USA version its a google product there fore moto has no control on software manipulation. As for apps to SD card there is no need the device has dedicated app storage stritctly for apps.
KoolAidJunkie said:
If ICS looks anything like the "leaked" video then ill pass.
It seems that MOTOROLA Android devices are the only ones with the MicroSD issues.
I have an Asus Transformer android tablet that has absolutely NO trouble at all when it come to read/write access of the MicroSD.
Motorola seems to fudge everything up. But verizon doesnt off any better phones (IMO)
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[Q] CameraAPP

Hello, i have a doubt about the camera app that comes default with CM12 and others similar, i don't know how it is called but i wanted to know if is it possible to change the location folder on this app, i mean, use SD Card instead Internal Memory to save the photos, 'cause i can't find any option to make this. (Just in case, the app icon is attached on bottom page)
CM12 camera doesnt have the permission to write to External SD card. Use third-party camera apps like "A Better Camera" "Lenevo SnapIt Camera", these allow the pics to be saved on External SD card.

Have camera save to SD Card

Hi,
Just wondering if this is possible. I've got a rooted 5.0.1 Fire, I've done the FSS script thing and swapped launchers, now running Google Now. The camera app is the google one rather than the FireOS one. SD Card has had SDFix applied to it. Got a trigger happy son who will quite happily fill up the internal storage with snaps and videos
Cheers,
Rob
Not sure, not managed it except where it was a option added to the OS by the manufacturer. However you could try Open Camera from playstore as that has an option to choose the storage location (assuming it will be allowed to access the SD card)
Thanks, that's absolutely perfect!
kramalot said:
Not sure, not managed it except where it was a option added to the OS by the manufacturer. However you could try Open Camera from playstore as that has an option to choose the storage location (assuming it will be allowed to access the SD card)
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Cheers,
Rob

Force Allow Apps on External (in Developer Options) Query's ?

So ive been using this option since setting up my Exynos Note 8 from day one with a Sammy Pro Evo Plus 256gb micro sd card and its worked pretty much perfect allowing me to move all of the app/data to the external SD Card BUT when an app gets an update come through and downloading/installing said update the app always reverts back to the Internal whereas it was previously on the external which is obviously very annoying and inconvenient that's Query 1 so Query 2 is only as far as i can tell this only happens with any app/game from installed from Google play using this feature that is whilst im able to move all of the app/data to the external Sd card it actually doesn't show/reflect that at all in the Storage options which obviously makes know sense and obviously pointless being a complete waste of time, any ideas/suggestion with any of the above welcome, thx.

Google Photos backup issue?

Since moving to the Note 9 I have been having issues with Google Photos backing up to my Google account. It has been working perfectly for years on my Note 8, Note 5, etc...
Now, on the Note 9, the backup sticks at "Getting ready to back up" until I go into a folder that backup is enable on and toggle the option off then back on. This makes the application begin the backup. I have it configured for High Quality but it did the same when I tried Original quality settings.
I initially though it was a problem with photos that I moved over from my Note 8, but I cleared out all of my on device photos and it is still having this same problem. I tried all the usual steps of clearing Photos cache and data. Uninstall and reinstall, clear Play Services Cache and data. I haven't performed a factory reset, but I don't feel like taking the time to reconfigure everything for something that might not even work.
Does anybody else have this problem also?
No issues. Did you disable any services?
Photos works fine on my 960F/DS...
Yes and I can't figure out how to solve the problem. What have you found?
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Yes and I can't figure out how to solve the problem. What have you found?
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Hello,
I have similar issue on a French SM-N960F/DS (Dual Sim)
Somehow, the Google Photos App is stuck while retrieving my Photos (from Google Web Server) an I can only view a couple of them (the most recent ones), without being able to scroll down and view the older ones.
Also when taking photos, it wont upload them
And finally if I try to toggle the switch (for backup) inside one directory, I have a popup asking me to first enabe Backup and Sync in Google Photos Apps, which is ALREADY enabled.
I suspect this is linked to the SD Card.
I removed it (just unmount it is sufficient, no need to physically remove it) and I reconfigured the Native Samsung Photo App to store all photos on the internal memory.
And now Google Photos Apps is just working fine. Full access on old pictures and proper upload.
EDIT1:
I have RE-mounted the SD Card without changing the Samsung Photo App settings, which means all taken Pictures are still stored on the Internal Memory.
By doing so, when I get into the Google Photos App, I see the new picture, and I see that there is "1" new photo to be uploaded on the upper right corner, but it is stuck there. The round icon keeps circling and it never gets uploaded (I cannot see the new Picture on the Google Photos website from my laptop)
If I Unmount the SD Card again, then the new Picture gets properly uploaded and the App is not stuck.
There is definitively an issue with the SD card.
This is quite annoying as I store lots of TV Series on my SD Card, hence I have it always inside the Phone.......
EDIT2:
I have formatted the SD Card from the Phone menu and now it works fine , even if the Card is present.
EDIT3:
I have copied back 10x MKV Files onto the SD Card (while Note9 was connected to laptop), and now the problem re-appears. If I delete the directory containing these MKV, back to normal, functioning fine.....
Then I tried to configure the Samsung Photo App to store taken pictur on the SD Card. In that case, the Google Photos App is correctly synching the new picture.
So now I'm more thinking there is an issue with some of the files stored on the SD Card. This card had been used for +2 years on a Galaxy Note 4 without issue. I do think the Note 9 might have a flaw while handling content from the SD Card.... ?
EDIT4: SOLVED
I just simply put a text file called ".nomedia" inside the directory containing the MKV files and VOILA
Hope that helps someone else
SD Card Issue with Google Photos
Damin0u said:
Hello,
I have similar issue on a French SM-N960F/DS (Dual Sim)
Somehow, the Google Photos App is stuck while retrieving my Photos (from Google Web Server) an I can only view a couple of them (the most recent ones), without being able to scroll down and view the older ones.
Also when taking photos, it wont upload them
And finally if I try to toggle the switch (for backup) inside one directory, I have a popup asking me to first enabe Backup and Sync in Google Photos Apps, which is ALREADY enabled.
I suspect this is linked to the SD Card.
I removed it (just unmount it is sufficient, no need to physically remove it) and I reconfigured the Native Samsung Photo App to store all photos on the internal memory.
And now Google Photos Apps is just working fine. Full access on old pictures and proper upload.
EDIT1:
I have RE-mounted the SD Card without changing the Samsung Photo App settings, which means all taken Pictures are still stored on the Internal Memory.
By doing so, when I get into the Google Photos App, I see the new picture, and I see that there is "1" new photo to be uploaded on the upper right corner, but it is stuck there. The round icon keeps circling and it never gets uploaded (I cannot see the new Picture on the Google Photos website from my laptop)
If I Unmount the SD Card again, then the new Picture gets properly uploaded and the App is not stuck.
There is definitively an issue with the SD card.
This is quite annoying as I store lots of TV Series on my SD Card, hence I have it always inside the Phone.......
EDIT2:
I have formatted the SD Card from the Phone menu and now it works fine , even if the Card is present.
EDIT3:
I have copied back 10x MKV Files onto the SD Card (while Note9 was connected to laptop), and now the problem re-appears. If I delete the directory containing these MKV, back to normal, functioning fine.....
Then I tried to configure the Samsung Photo App to store taken pictur on the SD Card. In that case, the Google Photos App is correctly synching the new picture.
So now I'm more thinking there is an issue with some of the files stored on the SD Card. This card had been used for +2 years on a Galaxy Note 4 without issue. I do think the Note 9 might have a flaw while handling content from the SD Card.... ?
EDIT4: SOLVED
I just simply put a text file called ".nomedia" inside the directory containing the MKV files and VOILA
Hope that helps someone else
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Evening
I also had the same issue since I got my Note 9, photos was stuck uploading, I uninstalled the App and cleared the cache still the same, upon reading your forum. I bought 512gb SDCard was working perfectly fine since PIE 9, after rolling back to Oreo; I unmounted the SD card closed Google Photos and checked the camera setting to make sure it was Internal. I opened Google Photos and it had already uploaded screenshot I took earlier and also seen in online. I then re-mounted the card by rebooting the phone for fresh install and worked normal again. Took a few screen shot's and google photos was uploading them as normal.
So anyone else check your card first, baffled me for a few day's

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