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So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/
matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.
Is it me, or does Xiaomi's Miui interface really bite (like @PPLe's) !
I have had the mi mix for over 18months, and just changed to the Mi mix 2 (because of the larger available lte bands, the drop in price for the 2, and because I got tired of repairing my mi mix screen).
I never understood Xiaomi's need to make an interface / desktop layout so similar to the Apple's own inferior interface. I hate having the hundreds of apps installed on the phone, filling up screen space and you swipe back and forth trying to find the app. Horrible!
I am stuck on this setup, for the next 72 hours (boot loader locked). Boy I can't wait to switch over to true Android roms.
Cheers
LormaD
LormaD said:
Is it me, or does Xiaomi's Miui interface really bite (like @PPLe's) !
I have had the mi mix for over 18months, and just changed to the Mi mix 2 (because of the larger available lte bands, the drop in price for the 2, and because I got tired of repairing my mi mix screen).
I never understood Xiaomi's need to make an interface / desktop layout so similar to the Apple's own inferior interface. I hate having the hundreds of apps installed on the phone, filling up screen space and you swipe back and forth trying to find the app. Horrible!
I am stuck on this setup, for the next 72 hours (boot loader locked). Boy I can't wait to switch over to true Android roms.
Cheers
LormaD
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Install another launcher, problem solved
Mackay53 said:
Install another launcher, problem solved
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That does nothing to resolve the bloatware, the advertising, and the non tweaking aspect that unlocked bootloader gives...
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That does nothing to resolve the bloatware, the advertising, and the non tweaking aspect that unlocked bootloader gives...
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Apart from theme store where's the advertisements?
Bloatware can be uninstalled with locked bootloader with ADB, or disabled via settings.
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That does nothing to resolve the bloatware, the advertising, and the non tweaking aspect that unlocked bootloader gives...
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I have mi mix 2 ,and i have installed a lot of roms whith no problem,i sink the problem its you not the phone
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I have the Mi Mix 2 and while I don't like MIUI, there is no denying the stuff is fully optimized. I get better Battery life than I do with the third party roms available. It is also faster. I have simply instaled Nova Launcher and substratum via root and deal with the few differences in appearances, like the notification shade. But that aside the phone looks pretty close to an asop rom. Just install a third party laucher and root your phone. You can then install an app like Root Essentials and delete unnecessary bloat/apps. You can install their themes or substratum or a combination of the two.
I tried LOS on my Mi Mix 2 because I missed stock Android--but the phone just works much better on MIUI. It's much snappier and smoother, the call quality is better and the cell reception is more stable. I hate the MIUI stock launcher with no app drawer but a custom launcher fixes that problem. I hide the icons for the MIUI programs I never intend to use and as long as they don't affect the performance of the phone I don't care about them being installed.
The Mi Mix 2 running stock MIUI is easily the fastest and most responsive phone I have owned since the Pixel XL--and it doesn't have that phone's overheating issues.
I went from the Pixel XL to a One Plus 5 to an Essential PH-1 to the Mi Mix 2.
Oxygen on the One Plus phones is way worse than MIUI. It looks much closer to stock Android than MIUI but the actual coding in Oxygen is completely amateur hour. Their version of Oreo is filled with Nougat code that shouldn't be there and lots of other coding that ignores basic Android standards. Third party apps constantly break on Oxygen because of all the non-standard coding. I also probably had to do more factory resets in 8 months of using Oxygen on the One Plus 5 than I've done on every other phone I have ever owned combined.
MIUI gets a bad rap in a lot of circles but it's so fluid and stable I can live with the fact that it isn't stock Android. Before the Pixel XL I owned Nexus phones so this is coming from someone with a longtime preference for stock Android.
I guess I will invest in Nova Launcher App... it really makes the interface and organizing leaps and bounds better than Miui... I am waiting for my boot loader to be unlocked and I will root my phone and give miui with Nova Launcher a chance... add my favorite Adaway, and remove bloatware from Xiaomi (I must say, they bloat much less than Carrier specific unlockable hardware supplied phones)...
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I guess I will invest in Nova Launcher App... it really makes the interface and organizing leaps and bounds better than Miui... I am waiting for my boot loader to be unlocked and I will root my phone and give miui with Nova Launcher a chance... add my favorite Adaway, and remove bloatware from Xiaomi (I must say, they bloat much less than Carrier specific unlockable hardware supplied phones)...
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I'm running mine with FastKey launcher and using Block-This ad blocker. I hate the miui launcher too. But my Mix2 doesn't have any ads anyway and I'm on the Chinese rom. So it's strange that you would be complaining about ads that no one else seems to have. It's also strange that you wouldn't know about being able to change your launcher. That's an android staple.
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I'm running mine with FastKey launcher and using Block-This ad blocker. I hate the miui launcher too. But my Mix2 doesn't have any ads anyway and I'm on the Chinese rom. So it's strange that you would be complaining about ads that no one else seems to have. It's also strange that you wouldn't know about being able to change your launcher. That's an android staple.
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I like the clean set up... using a customized Oreo Rom... and using pico gapps...
I don't like the sense of taking my opinion of miui, and referring to me as a newbie, because it doesn't agree with yours...
Most Customized Roms have there own flavour of launcher which is WAY superior to any Apple or Miui Interface Launcher. Unless of course you like the Apple IOS, then you will obviously love miui (apple clone interface). I must have gotten used to not having ads with my other roms on my mi mix and past 5 android phones...
Of course this is all possible with a unlocked Boot loader (which i am waiting for).
And, there is boatloads of ads... ever use an app from the google play store (most have advertising content in the description for a reason). Adaway does the best job at suppressing those ads typically embedded whenever your using an app, or scrolling down pages of content (news, weather, social media content etc...).
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I like the clean set up... using a customized Oreo Rom... and using pico gapps...
I don't like the sense of taking my opinion of miui, and referring to me as a newbie, because it doesn't agree with yours...
Most Customized Roms have there own flavour of launcher which is WAY superior to any Apple or Miui Interface Launcher. Unless of course you like the Apple IOS, then you will obviously love miui (apple clone interface). I must have gotten used to not having ads with my other roms on my mi mix and past 5 android phones...
Of course this is all possible with a unlocked Boot loader (which i am waiting for).
And, there is boatloads of ads... ever use an app from the google play store (most have advertising content in the description for a reason). Adaway does the best job at suppressing those ads typically embedded whenever your using an app, or scrolling down pages of content (news, weather, social media content etc...).
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I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I said I dislike the miui launcher and don't use it. I also said I use Block-This ad blocker. I also use Opera which has a built-in ad blocker. But your original post said miui had too many ads which is not the case. You never referred to Google Play apps.
I'm not knocking your opinion at all. I just find it strange that you're not familiar with the ability to change launchers in android.
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I guess you didn't read what I wrote. I said I dislike the miui launcher and don't use it. I also said I use Block-This ad blocker. I also use Opera which has a built-in ad blocker. But your original post said miui had too many ads which is not the case. You never referred to Google Play apps.
I'm not knocking your opinion at all. I just find it strange that you're not familiar with the ability to change launchers in android.
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I have and am able to change launchers, but when the launcher is integrated I find it much more feature packed, and allows for other changes that a launcher cannot do as an after thought app.
To me, ads, are ads (to me anyways), whether they appear using twitter, or on Flipboard, and even if they are integrated as part of a paid on non paid app from the google play store (weather apps are notorious for that).
Anyhoot... 18 more hours and then I get to start from scratch with so many of the other rom builds, and bye bye apple, er, I mean miui.
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I have and am able to change launchers, but when the launcher is integrated I find it much more feature packed, and allows for other changes that a launcher cannot do as an after thought app.
To me, ads, are ads (to me anyways), whether they appear using twitter, or on Flipboard, and even if they are integrated as part of a paid on non paid app from the google play store (weather apps are notorious for that).
Anyhoot... 18 more hours and then I get to start from scratch with so many of the other rom builds, and bye bye apple, er, I mean miui.
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But you'd never heard of Nova Launcher. Hmmm
LormaD said:
I like the clean set up... using a customized Oreo Rom... and using pico gapps...
I don't like the sense of taking my opinion of miui, and referring to me as a newbie, because it doesn't agree with yours...
Most Customized Roms have there own flavour of launcher which is WAY superior to any Apple or Miui Interface Launcher. Unless of course you like the Apple IOS, then you will obviously love miui (apple clone interface). I must have gotten used to not having ads with my other roms on my mi mix and past 5 android phones...
Of course this is all possible with a unlocked Boot loader (which i am waiting for).
And, there is boatloads of ads... ever use an app from the google play store (most have advertising content in the description for a reason). Adaway does the best job at suppressing those ads typically embedded whenever your using an app, or scrolling down pages of content (news, weather, social media content etc...).
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You made it sound like MIUI was filled with ads. If you are downloading add supported apps from the Play Store that isn't a fault with the phone or its operating system. You might like LOS better than MIUI but I found it too buggy to use as the daily driver on my primary phone. I also found LOS too buggy to use as a daily driver on 3 other phones--but I wasn't a fan of Cyanogenmod either for pretty much the exact same reason. Hopefully you'll find something to run that makes you happy.
I was a big fan of ViperOS for my Mi Mix. I tried them all, LOS, RR, etc, but my go to was ViperOS. It was no longer supported (and after a while, I was fine with that), but it was solid, smooth, fast and bug free. It's launcher was sweet, and the fine tuning had everything you could ever ask in tweak-ability (for FREE, in that you did not need to download an aftermarket launcher).
I never stated that only miui was filled with ads. I stated that typically locked down bootloaders from just about most manufacturers cannot be rooted. Yes, the Mi Mix 2 can be unlocked and rooted. Yes, you can "surgically" remove bloatware. I guess the fact that you can start with just the rom, and add your own gapps makes it just more tuneable.
Cheers,
LormaD
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I was a big fan of ViperOS for my Mi Mix. I tried them all, LOS, RR, etc, but my go to was ViperOS. It was no longer supported (and after a while, I was fine with that), but it was solid, smooth, fast and bug free. It's launcher was sweet, and the fine tuning had everything you could ever ask in tweak-ability (for FREE, in that you did not need to download an aftermarket launcher).
I never stated that only miui was filled with ads. I stated that typically locked down bootloaders from just about most manufacturers cannot be rooted. Yes, the Mi Mix 2 can be unlocked and rooted. Yes, you can "surgically" remove bloatware. I guess the fact that you can start with just the rom, and add your own gapps makes it just more tuneable.
Cheers,
LormaD
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That was the problem with Viper on the OP5. They continue to support the OP3/3T but dropped support for the OP5 after the 5T came out. If you are determined to root the MiMix 2 at least it's easy to do. Phones that ship with Oreo have dual partitions. The rooting process with those phones is way more difficult and they also tend to be easy to hard brick if something goes wrong.
just curious, what MIUI roms are you guys on anyway? (official global? eu?)
jhs39 said:
You made it sound like MIUI was filled with ads. If you are downloading add supported apps from the Play Store that isn't a fault with the phone or its operating system. You might like LOS better than MIUI but I found it too buggy to use as the daily driver on my primary phone. I also found LOS too buggy to use as a daily driver on 3 other phones--but I wasn't a fan of Cyanogenmod either for pretty much the exact same reason. Hopefully you'll find something to run that makes you happy.
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I appreciate your existence kind sir.
Zoyeah said:
just curious, what MIUI roms are you guys on anyway? (official global? eu?)
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Currently Global Developer. It's a bit more up to date than Global Stable and is very stable anyway. The only app that doesn't work is Android Pay (but I'm not rooted). The Play Store also shows up as uncertified in the dev build but I haven't encountered any issues relating to that.
The Chinese ROM was updated more recently than the Global version (I think) but I have no interest in trying that one.
Eu isn't an official MIUI ROM. It's a custom ROM that's probably intended primarily for devices where there is only an official Chinese MIUI and not a global build.
jhs39 said:
Currently Global Developer. It's a bit more up to date than Global Stable and is very stable anyway. The only app that doesn't work is Android Pay (but I'm not rooted). The Play Store also shows up as uncertified in the dev build but I haven't encountered any issues relating to that.
The Chinese ROM was updated more recently than the Global version (I think) but I have no interest in trying that one.
Eu isn't an official MIUI ROM. It's a custom ROM that's probably intended primarily for devices where there is only an official Chinese MIUI and not a global build.
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Thanks for the clarification! Actually I'm on a xiaomi.eu ROM at the moment. I'll try the Global Dev ROM. If I flash official global dev through TWRP, will it lock my bootloader again? I remember on my other xiaomi device (Redmi 3 pro) before it locked my boot and replaced twrp. :/
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
Useless on a Note !
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abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
winol said:
By "stock rom" do you mean vanilla ? , then why did you get a samsung galaxy device? Specially a note series one? Better get a pixel or something like it, why getting a samsung galaxy note device, to later downgrade it?
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I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
I'm just adding my sentiment. If you want stock Android, get a Pixel device or Motorola or Nokia or almost anything else. You buy a Samsung device for the features they add. If you don't like or use those features, then don't buy something for $1,000 just to essentially cripple it afterwards.
abdulrrahman said:
Hello
I have been looking for a stock rom for the note 8 and i haven't found any, i thought i would find a lineage os rom but there was nothing..
Is there a stock android rom for the note 8?!
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Lineage 15.1 was released yesterday for the note 8, it is in alpha stage though.
Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
sandeepkumar0153 said:
I have never understood why people do this.
They want some high end phone first. Then suddenly learn about custom roms and are like i want to flash this now.
Better donate the extra money to devs here instead of spending stupidly.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Clean Android not only reduces these devices in terms of function (S Pen, Iris, gestures, etc), but also removes the appeal of Sammy phones. I'm using Pie on my z2 Force, as well as my Pro 3. Whilst both have active development, my N8 is the new king on the hill.
Anyway, it's best to buy another phone like the Moto Z4, Poco F1, Pixel, or Essential for plain Android.
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Couldn't agree more on this. I bought my note 8 after i have used a note 8 port rom on my j7 2016.
And honestly i will prefer the note this way and i haven't even rooted yet. I miss viper4android so much but atleast we have Dolby atmos in N8.
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I think that some people are just plain stupid. They don't relise that most of the features of Stock Android come from other android OEM skins. Just because Stock Android is simple doesn't make it better. Even 3rd party Custom OSes don't support the same features on a Note device.
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Exactly, you buy a note device for what i gives not what you can mod it into using a custom rom. Root and xposed is an other thing, but custom rom, that too an AOSP ? Completely dumb people out there.
I think it is about choice, not stupidity, like it's said a couple of times here.
Let people do what they want with their phone, like you do.
The thing is i am a university student and thought that i would use the pen.. turned out i didn't use it nor did i use any of the other features..
Second i am not from the US so pixel is not an option unless i would pay around 100 to 200 extra dollar to get it without a warranty.. this goes to the oneplus..
Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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Other thing is the samsung devices are premium with good camera and great displays which is important for me..
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You do know that once you install a custom OS on the Note. The camera quality goes down. As custom OSes do not have the same camera optimisation software as the Samsung Stock OS.
I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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I was planning to use the pixel camera app
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Of course yo would, that is the point, once you install a stock android,, the camera will no longer be driven by the samsung software, exactly what iceepyon told you, the samsung hardware is specifically constructed to work efficiently with samsung firmwares
Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
People are not "dumb or stupid" if they're looking for customization options on XDA. They're maybe "wrong" in some cases. Just tell them why.
To answer your question:
These days there are too many flagships and midrange phones out there. Also The oems use different hardwares and barely release their source codes and drivers. Plus, stock roms are way more feature rich and fluid than before. For all these reasons the development of vanilla based roms is limited and less reasonable for most phones. Except pixel phones and Android one phones. Even there, all different roms are lineage-based and basically the same, with same features and same bugs! But different visuall traits!
There is a Lineage os for note 8.0 but in very early stages. About other custom roms (stock based), they do a great job in terms of features and removing so called bloatwares, but personally I recommend you staying on stock because unlike few years ago, stock roms get you better performance, features, battery life, etc. I'm currently using pixel 2 and note 8 and trust me, you get bored by plain android!
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Wow
A person asks about a custom vanilla rom, and look at some of the answers. So glad to live in 2019 when XDA posts are turned into youtube comments on taylor swift videos.
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Now I'm going to watch Taylor Swift music videos and read the comments, when I get home.
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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I dislike MIUI as you. Nevertheless i use Xiaomi phones since 4 years. I use the developer rom (weekly) from Xiaomi.eu in combination with nova launcher. I like the multiple options (extras) of the rom based of latest android, the removed ads and bloadware and their grandiose community/ forums for the rom and the phones.
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-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Wellcome to the club
You are on the righ place.
Here you can learn how to customize the hell out of your device. I also use "Nova" launcher and that makes experience so much better for the start. And I apply "viral" custom icon theme pack across all of the apps.
In time developers will start releasing custom roms here that are maybe for your needs and likes. So just be patient and you will fall in love in Xiaomi and the device. No need to return it, it a good device that will just become better in the near future with upcoming updates. There is a 12.5 update coming sometime in April which will have much improvement in many segments.
Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
xdamami said:
Weird. After buying why this question?
New trend?
Just buy Pixel or OnePlus.
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I can understand this question after buy. If somebody is not knowing Miui and bought an xiaomi, chinese one, that could be a shock.
-PaRRoT- said:
Hi all. I recently bought my first Xiaomi phone taking advantage of a launch offer on Amazon Italy (phone + Xiaomi Mi Smartwatch for 650 euros instead of 830 euros).
I was happy to have a device with a Snapdragon 888 processor, a super camera and an excellent 120 Hz screen but it took a few hours of use to realize that the biggest flaw of this device is the operating system.
I have been using Google or OnePlus phones for years, currently I also have a OnePlus 8 and I must say that the switch from OxygenOS to MIUI was devastating.
Handling background apps and notifications is awful. Often the notifications are not grouped or are identified correctly (those of Telegram are associated with a contact even if they are from another), in the background applications I find the same application several times. Using a "Pixel Experience" theme didn't improve that.
I prefer a device that is more like stock Android than a badly made iPhone.
I think about returning the product to Amazon but I'm here to ask you: why should I keep it? Am I wrong with my approach?
Help me make the right decision. Thank you.
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Ciao compa'
Coming from a Pixel 4XL and yes: devastating.
Using Nova Launcher or installing Xiaomi.eu will solve none of the problems that you are having. Actually Xiaomi.eu, even if based on 12.5, may make experience worts since you'll get Xiaomi apps for browser, dialer, contacts etc. Although Xiaomi.eu does not have the notification problems that you, me and everyone else with a EU Android 11 ROM is having, also on Mi10T phones.
If you contact me via pm I can try to provide some hints to ease the pain...
No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
Agreed
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
definitely.
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
easy easy bro, calm da f*** down.
it's all have a solution, why don't you focus on what actually you using phone for? like play game, multitasking, or take a photo ,etc..
so, let take some experience with another users like me, why you dont try MIUI MIX (MMX Team) it's not bad because it's base on EU ROM.
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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I can create a 5 hour video with all the bugs that I have on xiaomi.eu rom. Its not perfect if you don't look at it in that way. Iam a developer myself and i dont look at things like a end user does. Sorry if i hurt your feelings.
Schumi_wk said:
They did release kernel sources.
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource
More specific
https://github.com/MiCode/Xiaomi_Kernel_OpenSource/tree/star-r-oss
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Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
saisannihith said:
Good to hear. I don't see any developers working on this phone though?
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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How do sales compare to s21u or the one plus 9 pro ?
I think the global variant is overpriced tbh.... especially for a Xiaomi phone
Apple can get away with ridiculous prices and even Samsung to some degree but Xiaomi doesn't ring synonymous with prestige flagship grade experience
They're the cheap and cheerful brand...
My friend bought a Poco f3 yesterday and it's a great phone for it's price
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
hungragezone said:
Why u guys talk so much about custom rom?
Im satisfied with eu rom now
Almost nothing need to change
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Aren't we supposed to talk about it? I personally would prefer a custom rom like LineageOS over MIUI anytime.
Good for you, you are satisfied with it... i am not. And i totally agree with the thread-owner, i start to hate it too.
I don't hate my phone, I just hate Chinese Firmware. Now I'm waiting for Bootloader and will install Xiaomi.eu
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
Ridley8819 said:
Agreed. Never seen something as horrible as MIUI. Nothing but stupid effects.
If i knew that beforehand, I'd never had bought a xiaomi.
And no, the .eu rom doesn't fix any of its problems.
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What is your problem?
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What is your problem?
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Well, he can probably make a 5 hour video about that and attach here.
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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iam guessing as all the phones are global this is the order of sales Oneplus 9 Pro > 11 Ultra > S21
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S21 > Oneplus 9 pro > Something Else > Mi11 Ultra. There. I fixed it for you
Not sure why you get personal here.
I always had phones using a clean and functional OS. I knew that the asian customers prefer it more colorful and I expected exactly this. But what Xiaomi delivers with MIUI is a slap for everyone not deepdiving into their software beforehand.
Why is a compass app installed systemwise? Yes you can disable it and even uninstall it via adb. Why can't you hide apps in the drawer? Lets say I dislike their contacts app and want to use another one, I then have to have both on the drawer without the ability to hide theirs (yes, you can hide some non-system apps behind the app-lock). Why does Onehanded Mode not work with gestures? Why do they force you to wait for 7 days before you can unlock the bootloader and why do you need a sim-card in the phone for this and give them your number?
The "cleaner" app does nothing but spying, even worse that such software doesn't even (ever) work on Linux based OS. Not mentioning the "security" app that is another piece of scam software they integrated some system relevant services into while on the other hand, blocking essential android services and thus create a lot of issues non-existant on other devices.
If you ask me, MIUI as a whole is nothing but a scam. Google sniffing apps can at least be disabled, no chance for the Xiaomi ones.
vendetta17 said:
Unbelievable how ignorant (not to say different word) you should be to buy a phone than wait and hope for a custom rom (even though nobody on planet earth promised one).Than you go online and trashtalk the company, the phone and so on,only reason being your own wrong choice.
This is pure stupidity at its best.
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So well do you mean 'if you need a phone with custom rom, just buy it after custom roms are released for that phone'?
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No custom ROMs. Stupid Xiaomi please release the source and kernel. We are past 4 months and nothing till now. Oneplus 9 pro on the other hand released 5 days before this phone and I see 10+ custom roms in the forum already. Such a great phone with so much user reach and xiaomi doesnt care about software. Only people from China are getting updates every 3 weeks or so (iam not talking about xiaomi.eu rom). Completely neglected Global rom and India rom.
Issue with this company is: It releases 10+ phones in the same price range with different hardware every 6 months and forgets about software completely. If you cant update the software, release the source and kernel for developers atleast!
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Here's the reality, there really isn't that much demand for custom roms. However, there are two that I know of, Xiaomi.eu and MIUI MIX. ONE OS may also have one, but I am not sure on that though. And even though you do need kernel info, you can't expect them to release the proprietary info regarding the rear screen and other features. So even if a rom could be made, there are many things that the developers would not be able to make work. For example, the Mi 10 Pro went the greater part of a year before one started to see custom roms for it. Custom roms, back in the day, were updated regularly and in some cases nightly. Now the original rom and security update can be several months old and it might also be several months before a new version appears. In my opinion, it's really not worth it nowadays and the most of the devs seem to have found that out too.
As for their marketing, I too feel they release to many phones, but apparently it's working as they have become number one in the world.