Payton Fi Opw or Payton Opw - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

Dear friends
Searching the internet, I saw two roms, fi project and the normal project. I would like to know the best way to use it and if there is a difference. I ask this because I use the project fi and noticed a better stability and speed on the phone, but the security patch is not current like another rom. Thanks and hugs

Payton Fi is the Android One version, only receive updates if your software channel is retus, the other one is the international retail ROM, have more modifications than the Fi version.

abrfilho said:
Payton Fi is the Android One version, only receive updates if your software channel is retus, the other one is the international retail ROM, have more modifications than the Fi version.
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How do I use Payton Fi's Retus channel?

icarolessa said:
How do I use Payton Fi's Retus channel?
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Only having a phone with the retus software channel, I think it's the XT1900-1 variant.

abrfilho said:
Only having a phone with the retus software channel, I think it's the XT1900-1 variant.
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Got it. In that case, if I install the 1900-1 ROM it might work. What do you think?

icarolessa said:
Got it. In that case, if I install the 1900-1 ROM it might work. What do you think?
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It's impossible to effectively change the software, I think it's hardware dependant, other users tried without success to change via root access and flashing other ROM won't change.

abrfilho said:
It's impossible to effectively change the software, I think it's hardware dependant, other users tried without success to change via root access and flashing other ROM won't change.
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Once I installed a 1900-1 by mistake, it worked normally normal. But when there was an update, I did not install it. Probably due to software incompatibility.

icarolessa said:
Once I installed a 1900-1 by mistake, it worked normally normal. But when there was an update, I did not install it. Probably due to software incompatibility.
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Which 1900-1 ROM you installed? If it's the Oreo ROM not A1 it's the international ROM, updates will work normal.

abrfilho said:
Which 1900-1 ROM you installed? If it's the Oreo ROM not A1 it's the international ROM, updates will work normal.
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I installed what is on this site, without being an AMZ version. Do not refrigerate me if I got refreshed for an Oreo version, but otherwise, it worked everything normal.
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto X4/Stock/XT1900-1/

icarolessa said:
I installed what is on this site, without being an AMZ version. Do not refrigerate me if I got refreshed for an Oreo version, but otherwise, it worked everything normal.
https://firmware.center/firmware/Motorola/Moto X4/Stock/XT1900-1/
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This rom is the international version, even if it's in the 1900-1 folder, you can keep that ROM in your phone and update without a problem.

abrfilho said:
This rom is the international version, even if it's in the 1900-1 folder, you can keep that ROM in your phone and update without a problem.
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Got it! But in this case, the software channel will also be today, since it is

I flashed the ROM you mentioned on my 1900-6 variant, retbr channel, and I received the update without a problem.

abrfilho said:
I flashed the ROM you mentioned on my 1900-6 variant, retbr channel, and I received the update without a problem.
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Mine is also retbr, 1900-6. February patch, I have not received the March patch yet. I'm waiting

icarolessa said:
Mine is also retbr, 1900-6. February patch, I have not received the March patch yet. I'm waiting
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We have a delay in the updates like the January, we didn't received, we received together with February, and February was released here after

abrfilho said:
We have a delay in the updates like the January, we didn't received, we received together with February, and February was released here after
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I liked the Fi project, I found it much lighter. The problem is the patch that is from December, I hope it updates soon so I can go back.

icarolessa said:
I liked the Fi project, I found it much lighter. The problem is the patch that is from December, I hope it updates soon so I can go back.
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Sadly a ROM with the update applied need to be launched for that.

abrfilho said:
Sadly a ROM with the update applied need to be launched for that.
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A question to finish the topic. Do you think it's worth using Project Fi? even with an older patch? I ask this because the design is faster and cleaner.

icarolessa said:
A question to finish the topic. Do you think it's worth using Project Fi? even with an older patch? I ask this because the design is faster and cleaner.
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Only if you don't care about the patches, but if you updated your phone to February, flashing an older ROM could brick your device.

abrfilho said:
Only if you don't care about the patches, but if you updated your phone to February, flashing an older ROM could brick your device.
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Got it. I'll keep it updated then, because it's safer. Thanks for all this conversation.

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Install Security Patch Updates manually ? (Moto G5s Plus)

Hi everybody!
I have a problem with my Moto G5s Plus.
I can't get security updates through OTA, the last one that my phone have installed is from December 2017.
When I try to update the phone, it says that the last update is already installed.
Is it posible to install security updates manually?
if yes, Where can I find those files?
Or, How to fix this issue?
What can I do?
My phone details:
Phone Model: Moto G5s Plus (XT1800)
Android: 7.1.1
Software Channel: openmx
Security Patch: December 01 2017
Compilation Number: NPS26.116-61
Base Band: Sanders-LATAM
If any other info about my phone is required, please tell me!
Thanks in advance!
mabvmet said:
Hi everybody!
I have a problem with my Moto G5s Plus.
I can't get security updates through OTA, the last one that my phone have installed is from December 2017.
When I try to update the phone, it says that the last update is already installed.
Is it posible to install security updates manually?
if yes, Where can I find those files?
Or, How to fix this issue?
What can I do?
My phone detailshone Model: Moto G5s Plus (XT1800)
Android: 7.1.1
Software Channel: openmx
Security Patch: December 01 2017
Compilation Number: NPS26.116-61
Base Band: Sanders-LATAM
If any other info about my phone is required, please tell me!
Thanks in advance!
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Fastboot and flash newest
But u have branded phone so won't get ony otas....Only fastboot
Adi5 said:
Fastboot and flash newest
But u have branded phone so won't get ony otas....Only fastboot
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All this started because I rooted the phone and then i
I flashed it back. Before the root process I had OTA updates. After the flash I wasn't able to have them by OTA
mabvmet said:
All this started because I rooted the phone and then i
I flashed it back. Before the root process I had OTA updates. After the flash I wasn't able to have them by OTA
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That means you flashed wrong fastboot ROM, that was not meant for your region/country or device model..
Now you have to find correct version of fastboot ROM.
Do you have any backup of stock ROM ?
EDIT: build version NPS26.116-61 was indian/asian update for december, definitely you are on wrong build.
____Mdd said:
That means you flashed wrong fastboot ROM, that was not meant for your region/country or device model..
Now you have to find correct version of fastboot ROM.
Do you have any backup of stock ROM ?
EDIT: build version NPS26.116-61 was indian/asian update for december, definitely you are on wrong build.
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So, I need the rom for The Americas / LATAM / México.
Does someone know what build/compilation is?
mabvmet said:
So, I need the rom for The Americas / LATAM / México.
Does someone know what build/compilation is?
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Do you have a backup?
Aptony said:
Do you have a backup?
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No
26-116-61-8 I guess
U have phone from operator or retail?
mabvmet said:
So, I need the rom for The Americas / LATAM / México.
Does someone know what build/compilation is?
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These are the available files for the moto G5s Plus in the firmware.center website, we know that the NPS116-61 is for the indian market... Do you know what market are the other files for?
*Picture included
mabvmet said:
These are the available files for the moto G5s Plus in the firmware.center website, we know that the NPS116-61 is for the indian market... Do you know what market are the other files for?
*Picture included
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Maybe someone from Mexico and same software channel but on stock can help you.
Something like this would help.
Adi5 said:
26-116-61-8 I guess
U have phone from operator or retail?
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I bought it from Amazon and is opened to any carrier...
mabvmet said:
I bought it from Amazon and is opened to any carrier...
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Amazon like branding phones
Opened no simlock only I guess
Adi5 said:
Amazon like branding phones
Opened no simlock only I guess
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So, that means that I have to download ... what file? ?
mabvmet said:
So, that means that I have to download ... what file? ?
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Npss26.116-61-8
mabvmet said:
So, I need the rom for The Americas / LATAM / México.
Does someone know what build/compilation is?
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The builds that end in #116-61 are all intended for India region.
The builds that end in #116-4X are all intended for North America.
These are all the builds I've written down since owning the Moto G5S Plus
Build: NPS26-116-45 Android 7.1.1 Security June 1, 2017
Build: NPSS26.116-48-9 Android 7.1.1 Security January 1, 2018
Build: NPSS26.116-48-12 Android 7.1.1 Security March 1, 2018
Build: NPSS26.116-48-15 Android 7.1.1 Security April 1, 2018
On Firmware Center you'll see some builds listed as NPS and some listed as NPSS. NPS means it's an original factory build. NPSS means it's an OTA update build.
To answer your question: if you live in North America, download and install the file that says NPS26-116-45. After you install it, go to 'settings' and 'check for update'. You'll immediately get an OTA update. Install the OTA update then 'check for update'. You'll get the next increment OTA update. Install and keep performing 'check for update' until you have the most recent build installed (build NPSS26.116-48-15 as of today).
* * * SOLVED * * *
Thanks to everyone that gave some support!
Finally, I have installed the 116-4-5 RETAIL.
It seems to work perfectly until now! Now I have installed the security patches available today (the one from April is the last still in early june)
Thanks to everyone!
mabvmet said:
* * * SOLVED * * *
Thanks to everyone that gave some support!
Finally, I have installed the 116-4-5 RETAIL.
It seems to work perfectly until now! Now I have installed the security patches available today (the one from April is the last still in early june)
Thanks to everyone!
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Hi bro! I also have latam version (XT1801) and I have to use the very same firmware you do, but I don't now how to install security patches manually. Maybe would you explain to me how?
I already have everything I need: VIPER4Android + libraries, Magisk, Xposed, but I have attempted -several times- to lock bootloader to receive them through OTA (of course before flashing everything I mentioned before ), but I got always errors through bootloader/cmd commands, so I definitely need to install those patches manually.
I really will appreciate all help you can give me. Thanks!
Metal-Zone said:
Hi bro! I also have latam version (XT1801) and I have to use the very same firmware you do, but I don't now how to install security patches manually. Maybe would you explain to me how?
I already have everything I need: VIPER4Android + libraries, Magisk, Xposed, but I have attempted -several times- to lock bootloader to receive them through OTA (of course before flashing everything I mentioned before ), but I got always errors through bootloader/cmd commands, so I definitely need to install those patches manually.
I really will appreciate all help you can give me. Thanks!
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No need lock bootloader for otas
Hey everyone!
I still have installed the april security patch in my moto g5s Plus (mid june) and there is not a new one by OTA.
Are you with the same situation?
Does anyone have a different security patch (or even oreo) from OTA?
I'm from Latin America too, the last OTA Update that I received was April Security Patch.
My compilation number is: NPSS26.116-26-14

September security patch out

I got the September security patch yesterday. Still version 8.0.0 though.
felipevsw said:
I got the September security patch yesterday. Still version 8.0.0 though.
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Im on retin (Retail India) and still no sign of update. Update comes to Moto Z (2016) & Moto Z2F at the same time..
Only time worth taken a OTA is if it gets a upgrade to Pie..I'm not upgrading from my DU 8.1 until then..
Don't need Pie, I really like oreo. But there is no much difference. So, let Pie come to us. Few bug fixes here and there. But maybe better wait for possible 9.0.1. We will see what we see.
allrightlite said:
Don't need Pie, I really like oreo. But there is no much difference. So, let Pie come to us. Few bug fixes here and there. But maybe better wait for possible 9.0.1. We will see what we see.
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Pie also don't concern me specially when im going to lose the themes:crying: My Major concerns are the bugs which are lying here and there , such as no audio offloading (16bit & 24bit and video) which makes music comes like a crap , no EQ apps can be used due to that. Bug in headphone icon indicator in status bar which doesn't show proper icon for headset with mic (eg.Apple Earpods)
I've been using Los 16 for a few days now and Pie is a huge difference!
Even the fonts have changed for the better. I can't go back to Oreo now. Pie is so much better!
Anybody else got the update...?Its One week and my phone is upto date on 1 July security patch:angel:
gyarados025 said:
Anybody else got the update...?Its One week and my phone is upto date on 1 July security patch:angel:
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Here reteu and nothing. But good to know that we get support for a 799€ phone And the best, we get official Pie. So we don't need to unlock the phone to get it up to date.
Retbr
Sent from my Moto Z2 Force using XDA Labs
gyarados025 said:
Anybody else got the update...?Its One week and my phone is upto date on 1 July security patch:angel:
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Same here, still nothing (reteu)
Im trying to get the OTA package using the OTA Link Generator
https://motoota.lolinet.com/
Anybody knows how to get it working
It not detecting the OTAs of any of the Moto Mobiles (Checked Moto Z (XT1650-03) with old Firmware Version)
Any download link?? Anyone could help? Thanks in advance
It's live in Europe :good:
jonas210678 said:
It's live in Europe :good:
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You are right, here in germany, too
allrightlite said:
You are right, here in germany, too
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I think Unlocking would be a Good Option :laugh:
gyarados025 said:
Anybody else got the update...?Its One week and my phone is upto date on 1 July security patch:angel:
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Same here. Still waiting.
I am in Italy with international model and I got the update message (so in Europe there is the update), downloaded the package but it says that an error occurred and I can't update. I think it's due because my phone is rooted. What I can't understand is that Magisk is completely hided and safety net passed, maybe someone can help me?
Thanks
ldmondini said:
I am in Italy with international model and I got the update message (so in Europe there is the update), downloaded the package but it says that an error occurred and I can't update. I think it's due because my phone is rooted. What I can't understand is that Magisk is completely hided and safety net passed, maybe someone can help me?
Thanks
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You're rooted. The updater checks the hash of the system, boot, and OEM partitions, if they've been edited the hash will be different and fail the OTA. You would need to flash your system, boot and OEM images from a flash all to take the ota
I just got the update, Sprint, US. The device isnt activated though, trying to fix that.
NightBladeDK said:
I just got the update, Sprint, US. The device isnt activated though, trying to fix that.
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I just checked mine, and still no updates. Sprint US too.

Oreo Release Thread

Finally this has arrived for RETGB!
Currently running the install and will let you know how this goes.
Where else has had this released?
Who is still waiting?
What is the verdict, worthwhile keeping at stock or see what good ROMS will come from this?
agent_orange420 said:
Finally this has arrived for RETGB!
Currently running the install and will let you know how this goes.
Where else has had this released?
Who is still waiting?
What is the verdict, worthwhile keeping at stock or see what good ROMS will come from this?
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Keep us posted. Very curious to hear the pros and cons.
XT1794 on RETEU still waiting...
NPPS26.102-50-8 with only security patch level: 1 June 2018
mri0 said:
Keep us posted. Very curious to hear the pros and cons.
XT1794 on RETEU still waiting...
NPPS26.102-50-8 with only security patch level: 1 June 2018
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I'm on the same boat as you my friend.... still waiting, even for sec patches....
Same here. I'm located in Belgium.
XT1794, RETEU
Security patch 1 june 2018
NPPS26.102-49-11
I've received the update on my XT1794 yesterday.
JarlPenguin said:
I've received the update on my XT1794 yesterday.
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Sorry, is your device on RETEU update channel?
jhonnyx said:
Sorry, is your device on RETEU update channel?
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Yep. reteu.
Has anyone recived it too? On my reteu still nothin'.
Nothing here yet. My XT1794 for some reason is still on NPP26.102-49 (reteu/october 2017 patch). Never even got the june 2018 update....
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Has anyone recived it too? On my reteu still nothin'.
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Still nothing, XT1794 reteu on the June patch here.
Still nothing here Is there a way to force it through official sources? For those who got it already, pros & cons?
mri0 said:
Still nothing here Is there a way to force it through official sources? For those who got it already, pros & cons?
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Flash the firmware via fastboot
Talwar sridhar said:
Flash the firmware via fastboot
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Is that possible without root?
Official answer from the German support via email: There have been bugs in the release and the roll out has been stopped.
mri0 said:
Is that possible without root?
Official answer from the German support via email: There have been bugs in the release and the roll out has been stopped.
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This is ridiculous. No more Lenovorola from me. Everyone's got Oreo and some phones from other brands have even gone to Pie, but reteu is still behind. Tragic support compared to when it was owned by Google (my XT1032 got updated before the Nexus phones of the time).
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This is ridiculous. No more Lenovorola from me. Everyone's got Oreo and some phones from other brands have even gone to Pie, but reteu is still behind. Tragic support compared to when it was owned by Google (my XT1032 got updated before the Nexus phones of the time).
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Yeah. This is oddly funny. I said no more Motorola after the Atrix fiasco (Android 2.3...... ICS was never released, they promised it... and then the Testing image got leaked.....)
Yet, I've owned another Moto phone, which won't have Android 8.1. But this phone is still good with Nougat. Can't complain.
Got a Nexus 5x from google. New. Turns out it had a hardware failure on all models just a year after the release.
Got a Nexus 4. After a year of usage, just upgraded to Lollipop. Phone started rebooting on its own randomly. Some users have this issue as well.
I don't believe on the manufacturers anymore. My next phone will be a Nokia (and I'll fail for sure)
/rant
Finally in Germany (RETEU) arrived the Oreo Release yesterday with the December 2018 Updates included.
dancle said:
Finally in Germany (RETEU) arrived the Oreo Release yesterday with the December 2018 Updates included.
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Also got it today in Germany, (RETEU) looks like everything is running well.
Heinz_P said:
Also got it today in Germany, (RETEU) looks like everything is running well.
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The Lenovo forums for the 5GS and the 5GS+ are full of VERY annoyed reports on WiFi loss problems after upgrading to 8.1 - so far, these obviously all relate to non-RETEU update channels. Lenovo apparently never officially reacted to these complaints, but several people there seem to have dumped their 5GS/+ phones after the update out of frustration.
So, do those of you who already have updated to 8.1 see any problems with WiFi connections dropping (while connected to a 4G network)? The 'cure' for that seemed to be to disable 4G connections...
What with battery life after the update?
Thanks! Markus68
Can not test this for you, because I have no 4G Network, only 3G.
Heinz_P said:
Can not test this for you, because I have no 4G Network, only 3G.
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Thank you anyways.

Android OTA Update by Country (How is Country determined?)

I have a Moto G6 and Brazil is already updating Oreo to Pie, how do they determine what Country your phone belongs to?
I want to know if mine has a different Country signature somewhere, thank you.
bradmoss said:
I have a Moto G6 and Brazil is already updating Oreo to Pie, how do they determine what Country your phone belongs to?
I want to know if mine has a different Country signature somewhere, th7ank you.
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System->About Phone->Software Channel->RETBR (Retail Brazil)
https://mirrors.lolinet.com/firmware/moto/ali/official/RETBR/
Did Somebody has the Pie Update for reteu Channel?
mine says retla, so I won't receive the update?
bradmoss said:
mine says retla, so I won't receive the update?
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You will but later, RETLA = Latinamerica
I'm in México and still waiting.
Thank you!
palorent said:
Did Somebody has the Pie Update for reteu Channel?
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Not yet, just wait
What do they do, see if there are problems in Brazil and then decide if it is ready?
bradmoss said:
What do they do, see if there are problems in Brazil and then decide if it is ready?
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Maybe, don't know.
Until now I've only seen RETBR and RETIN (india) releases.
bradmoss said:
What do they do, see if there are problems in Brazil and then decide if it is ready?
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Each region is huge. If they did them all at once, the load on servers alone would cause problems.
And yes, also likely to see if bugs surface. Thousands more users, greater likely hood of bugs surfacing. Given many different use cases, setups, etc.

Any update for global rom version?

Hey there is any update for global version? Im on build nx629J_encommom_V2.07..someone have newer version of global rom?
No updates yet. But bug reports have been sent to Nubia's engineering team.
Just received an 180 MB update..
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Just received an 180 MB update..
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Global ? Or cn
Global, NX629J_EnCommon_V2.09
Security patch May 2019 and a lot of improvements, most notably camera improvements.
I must say I'm impressed..
Nightpwish said:
Global, NX629J_EnCommon_V2.09
Security patch May 2019 and a lot of improvements, most notably camera improvements.
I must say I'm impressed..
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Do you happen to be on the European global or the NA global? Your version number suggests European.
I have not received anything yet for NA.
I'm on EU Global
Can anyone share the update zip file
Unfortunately, I'm not able to find it.
I assume it was deleted the moment I updated the phone
Hmm i received no Update, but good too see they are working
@Nightpwish,any specific language or region settings?
I'm in Belgium and didn't get the update so far...
@roadworker English language, Region UK. Nothing else
danielad200 said:
Hey there is any update for global version? Im on build nx629J_encommom_V2.07..someone have newer version of global rom?
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Did you solved the problem? I waited your news
sakilxda said:
Did you solved the problem? I waited your news
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Yeah thank you bro:good:
danielad200 said:
Yeah thank you bro:good:
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Is better late than never
I got an update yesterday in Australia.
Global, NX629J_EnCommon_V2.09
lettucegoatee said:
I got an update yesterday in Australia.
Global, NX629J_EnCommon_V2.09
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My Red Magic 3 arrived yesterday, must say very speedy delivery, 3 days only DHL express to Australia which was excellent.
I'm having trouble identifying the different models though, I've seen reference to a Chinese (CN), Global, EU but also a 'NA' version? Not sure if some are the same thing? I'm concerned as though from what I can tell the EU version doesn't have LTE Band 28 (which I want) but the NA version does and I'm not sure what I have other than it was branded NX629J.
https://global.redmagic.gg/pages/red-magic-3-specs (under 'Connectivity')
Can anyone assist please?
lettucegoatee said:
I got an update yesterday in Australia.
Global, NX629J_EnCommon_V2.09
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Hi,
Me too but could not apply it.
Probably because I have unlocked bootloader and rooted recovery.
Regards.
NexusPenguin said:
Hi,
Me too but could not apply it.
Probably because I have unlocked bootloader and rooted recovery.
Regards.
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Sure you can open Magisk uninstall it, it will restore stock boot.img and walla.
SuperDroidMe said:
Sure you can open Magisk uninstall it, it will restore stock boot.img and walla.
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Hi,
What good is that update ?
Does it bring one of the following features :
- working dark mode ?
- control of front LED ?
- Always On Display ?
- App lock in Recents ?
If none of the features is included, no point in updating.
I don't think I've seen any of these mentioned in the update log, but who knows...
Regards.

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