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Well if you recently bricked you precious G1, but still have warranty left, then your in luck, I was in such scenario a week ago and gathered up my courage and sent it back to RMA.
Waiting for almost a week, scared that i might get a call from HTC saying something like "hello this is HTC...WTF you haxx0r! pay $$$ and we'll return back your phone back alive"
Well, the story was quiet different, I got a call from them saying that they fixed the phone and will return it in X days at zero cost [well i paid for shipping when i sent it].
Done & Done, it cost me 5$ to get it fixed, instead of 60$+ by buying a broken g1 for Motherboard replacement, voiding the warranty, and the chance to screw up your phone even more.
*disclaimer: this might be considered a dishonest move from the owner's behalf since it was the owner's fault that the phone was broken in the first place, but is up to the owner if he/she wants to say a little white lie and send it to RMA, plus HTC told me the problem [brick] was covered under warranty*
-BTW warranty is voided if: you phone has water damage, physical damage, and/or warranty sticker was damaged or removed. [plus more that i might no be aware of]
So, a few weeks ago I accidentally dropped my Nexus on concrete and it spider-webbed the screen :/
At the time, I was too broke to send it to HTC so I sent it to another company for a screen repair. They repaired the screen and sent it back, but afterwards, it would not boot up. This did not happen before I sent it to them. So my real question is, would HTC warranty this, or would operating on the device itself for a screen repair (what the company did) void the warranty?
Check your warranty information through the company? I'd be furious if that happened to me. If push comes to shove, don't mention anything to HTC about it being repaired by thirdparty. What can it hurt if they find out, you already have a broken Nexus
If the company isn't HTC authorized then its prob voided, you should contact the company you sent it to!
Yeah, tell me about it. I am pretty furious. I bought it un-subsidized.
Unhelpful to you now, but def invest in screen protectors in the future, they can keep this crap from happening!
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
HTC seems to be honoring the warranty if it's a hardware problem, even if you've unlocked your bootloader. I haven't had problems with it, but from what I've read that power button tends to go bad. If mine does, I'll call HTC (and not mention the unlocked bootloader), then when I get the phone back I'll do the root-without-unlocking method.
But yeah, HTC seems to have pretty stellar support for their hardware. Can't complain about that.
My similar experience here, but scroll up for a bad experience with a service center outside the US: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7076177#post7076177
They sure have very good customer service in the US...but for the repair center, well I can only say they are horrible!
My experience with them here
same problem as me. Got mine back today, and rooted it again. I didn't feel like cutting the sim card slot up and stuff.
They told me that I should ship mine back to HTC because (since frf50) it's been freezing and I need to pull the battery to restart. I don't want to though.
suicide_trend said:
Long story short HTC Rocks!!!!!!!
I purchased my lovely nexus one in Feb, as soon as i convinced my wife why a $529 phone was worth it.
I rooted the phone almost seconds after I unboxed it and never looked back.
4 Months later i started having problems with the power/lock key not responding.
First i thought it was a ROM issue so i tried a few debugging techniques, No such luck.
Then after research i discover this was a known hardware issue.
Crap!! I voided that warranty with a smile on my face and now i may have to pay for it to be repaired.
To hell with that, i have fixed my Palm Tungsten, Blackberry and countless other consumer electronic devices ill fix this too.
I bust out my precision screwdriver set and the case pry tool and find a dis-assembly tutorial on the net. Warranty already void i think nothing of breaking the case seals. But alas i cannot seem to repair the button.
I break down and call HTC repair hot-line. I present the following.
Do you sell parts for repair ---- No sir we do not.
Is there are known issue with the power button ---- Yes there is
I setup a repair ticket.
I tell them i have rooted the phone and am proud of it.
The rep explains that with the phone being rooted it would be out of warranty repair.
They would be re-locking the phone, which is accomplished by replacing the motherboard entirely and i would owe the $196 for that service.
I also explain that i have broken the seals in an attempt to repair the phone
The tech gulps and tells me that i will also have to pay for any damage done while disassembling the phone.
she then writes on the ticket
"Issue Description: defective power button, cx has rooted the phone, and broke the seals in an attempt to repair the device."
SO Everyone is aware that i voided the warranty, the rep the service tech
I knew i would have to pay, so i waited for the email with the quoted price and i would shell out my credit-card and suck it up.
I received an email they received my package
I checked the repair website every couple hours.
I called them every day.
I never received an email for a price authorization.
I called and spoke with a rep who told me my phone was in post-repair testing and should be shipped out soon.
WHAT!!!! THEY REPAIRED IT AS A WARRANTY REPAIR!!!!!!!
I Cannot believe it, but it is on a fed-ex truck destine for my house today!!!
Holy Crap!!!! HTC Rocks.
Is this windfall of fortune because the part that was defective was the same part they would have had to replace because of boot-loader re-locking ???
Who has other experiences.
I searched for threads of peoples repair experiences but found few. I desperately needed to have an idea of what was happening to my beloved phone
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you are lucky
Word of warning: don't ever buy a Samsung phone if you expect to be covered under the one year manufacturer's warranty. They will make up some excuse to not honor your repair!
This is my situation:
I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S6. I was having some issues with the battery getting too hot and I noticed some other minor issues that seemed to be hardware related. This phone is well within the manufacturer warranty period and has never been dropped or been exposed to liquid in any way. I sent it in for repair, hoping that Samsung would either replace the battery or send me a new (refurbished) replacement S6. I followed all the steps to send the phone in for repair, had to get a loaner phone for the time-being, and waited.
My phone arrived at their repair center in Texas on 7/15 and was checked in by one of their technicians. Not even 12 hours later, I checked the status of my repair online and found updated technician notes stating the phone was looked at and it was determined to be "beyond economical repair." The technician's notes stated that my new $700 Galaxy S6 phone showed signs of liquid damage on the motherboard! How could a phone that is designed as one piece and not easily taken apart, be so quickly opened up and shown to have corrosion on the motherboard?! This is a three month old phone at best.
So, now my warranty is voided and I have no idea the condition the phone will be in when I get it back. Upon finding this out I called Samsung to hopefully get a solution before they shipped my phone back. Well not surprisingly, I was told nothing could be done because the phone was now marked as having liquid damage. I even spoke with a supervisor and asked for proof of the damage in the form of photos but they refused. Now what do I do? The issues originally were not major on my phone and it was working when I sent it in. What if I get it back and it's no longer operational? I can't afford to lose the money I paid for this phone by getting it back and it no longer working.
That's worse case scenario I guess, but still, do yourself a favor and buy an iPhone. At least they honor their warranty and don't make up damage claims they can't prove.
Super disappointed in Samsung. Share this. Tell everyone you know.
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I posted this on Samsung's Facebook page and they asked me to send their support department a private message with my ticket number. See their response in the attached image...
I had the same problem with my wife's Galaxy S6.
After a hot day the phone went crazy-mode and I contacted Samsung and they told me to sent it in for repair.
One week after I sent the phone I receive it back with that "beyond economical repair/warranty void" slap in the face.
I called and got escalated to someone that made a 3-way call with the repair center where they told me water damage.
I asked for proof/pictures and they said they were confidential (really?!?). After that the CSR told me there was nothing they could do as their policy for water damage is warranty void - no repair and he suggested me to email the president ([email protected]).
I emailed them and the next day I received the pictures in the email (which could belong to any device as it was a close up from some part of the main board) and a polite message basically saying: water damage, no repair, nothing can be done.
I tested the phone it is working and I told my wife to keep using it until it dies (almost a month it is working fine).
Luckily when I got the phone at BestBuy I got a square trade warranty for the phone so if it dies at least I can get another one but I still feel betrayed by Samsung on this.
If you sweat enough it will cause the water damage stickers to change color. Warranty through Tmobile would have denied you as well. The only difference is Tmobile would have been more of a pain because you would have already been on your refurb for three weeks before you found out your claim was denied. LGSilva how much do you need to pay to use your warranty? Because they do cover water damage and I'm just wondering what the deductible is.
The liquid sticker is unreliable. When i worked at verizon for 10.5 years with revenue assurance and device testing during the alltel merger verizon stopped using the LDI sticker because it turns for sometimes no reason.
Samsung should be able to provide proof of corrosion or other physical evidence other than the LDI
Even apple made statement regarding the falsehoods of the LDI. http://gizmodo.com/5747878/triggered-water-damage-indicator-doesnt-rule-out-replacement-iphones
Taking your phone into the bathroom when you shower can also trip the void stick. So be careful
we as consumers need to fight this fraudulent method of determining liquid damage, the manufacturers are so lazy that they cannot identify corrosion and prove it? Somehow we should bend over to their corporate slob laziness?
No thanks. Fight back, and if Samsung isn't gonna do anything about it climb the ladder, their US HQ is in TX.
@ThePagel The deductible is $75
Well you water damaged it what do you expect. Warranty via Samsung is one of the best out there.
Sent from my A0001
Here in canada, I had broken my note 3 screen within a week of release, rooted and everything, they fixed screen without issue, for free. Same thing happened with my note 4, exact same thing. Samsung is awesome, at least here in canada.
Not to be mean or anything, but if you actually bought a warranty from another company that covered full accidental damage you wouldn't have ran into this $700 expense that cannot be reimbursed. Never rely on manufacturer warranties.
you guys really need to get squaretrade $5 phone insurance. its a no brainer, protect your investment!
Bought a Tmobile Note 3 for my son from Tmobile with the warranty. The Note 3 was under warranty. It wouldn't power on unless it was plugged in. Unplug it and it powered down. Battery at 100%.
My son was working on a ship overseas and had to buy a new phone.
Called Tmobile - took 3.5 hours (an entire afternoon) to get them to set up a warranty return. They just couldn't coordinate at the office to make it happen.
Eventually they got it right and sent a phone to my local Tmobile store to exchange.
The manager had a light and showed me a tiny crack in one of the corners.
He said, if I send this in, T-mobile will charge you $175 to repair the crack.
Well, a brand-new Note 3 is only $125 on Ebay or other places.
I checked with several phone repair places. They explained to me that the Samsung Note 3 had a crazy front case that Samsung tried once and dropped.
So,, my Samsung Note 2 or the Samsung Note 4 would only cost around $40 to repair But a Note 3 is $250.
The phone works - it just won't stay powered unless it is plugged in. It's not because of the tiny crack on the front.
But, the warranty will charge me much more than a brand-new phone if I try to use the Tmobile warranty!
I have 9 more payments of $10 a month to pay off a Tmobile phone that worked for 90 days.
Tmobile warranty is horrible! I have been on Tmobile since 1999. I will drop Tmobile on a family plan the moment there is a better deal.
I have to use wireless in my home in the middle of Denver. Tmobile bars are zero! Tmobile sent a home booster. It helps get one bar then no bars.
Tmobile like many other companies just doesn't care.
nicklopez1 said:
Word of warning: don't ever buy a Samsung phone if you expect to be covered under the one year manufacturer's warranty. They will make up some excuse to not honor your repair!
This is my situation:
I have a brand new Samsung Galaxy S6. I was having some issues with the battery getting too hot and I noticed some other minor issues that seemed to be hardware related. This phone is well within the manufacturer warranty period and has never been dropped or been exposed to liquid in any way. I sent it in for repair, hoping that Samsung would either replace the battery or send me a new (refurbished) replacement S6. I followed all the steps to send the phone in for repair, had to get a loaner phone for the time-being, and waited.
My phone arrived at their repair center in Texas on 7/15 and was checked in by one of their technicians. Not even 12 hours later, I checked the status of my repair online and found updated technician notes stating the phone was looked at and it was determined to be "beyond economical repair." The technician's notes stated that my new $700 Galaxy S6 phone showed signs of liquid damage on the motherboard! How could a phone that is designed as one piece and not easily taken apart, be so quickly opened up and shown to have corrosion on the motherboard?! This is a three month old phone at best.
So, now my warranty is voided and I have no idea the condition the phone will be in when I get it back. Upon finding this out I called Samsung to hopefully get a solution before they shipped my phone back. Well not surprisingly, I was told nothing could be done because the phone was now marked as having liquid damage. I even spoke with a supervisor and asked for proof of the damage in the form of photos but they refused. Now what do I do? The issues originally were not major on my phone and it was working when I sent it in. What if I get it back and it's no longer operational? I can't afford to lose the money I paid for this phone by getting it back and it no longer working.
That's worse case scenario I guess, but still, do yourself a favor and buy an iPhone. At least they honor their warranty and don't make up damage claims they can't prove.
Super disappointed in Samsung. Share this. Tell everyone you know.
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I posted this on Samsung's Facebook page and they asked me to send their support department a private message with my ticket number. See their response in the attached image...
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I looked this up on Google to see if anyone is having the same issues as i am right now and everything you said is exactly what i am going through!! My phone screen isn't working and sent it to Samsung under warranty their saying i owe them $362.00 because it isn't under warranty it is liquid damage by shipping it to them. Umm no i said you all are making up excuses so i pay you and i said i am not paying you it is under warranty!! I am not sure if i am getting my phone back now as of right now using my old phone that won't let me make calls at all ugh how annoying should of just went to a iPhone if i knew this.
Hello guys, i recently made a post on reddit oneplus subreddit about how i was denied warranty for my oneplus 3 phone since i was rooted and i was told i should share it here so here it goes.
So I went to the oneplus service center today since my display had some issues. My phone was in the warranty period. Right on checking the phone the guy says that since this is a rooted phone they don't provide hardware warranty. I argued with him saying that oneplus advertises quite proudly that rooting does not infact void your warranty so how can they claim otherwise. On this I was told that they have officially been given in mail that hardware warranty will be void on rooted phone and it will only get software warranty. After arguing with him for quite some time he threatened me that if he marks this phone as rooted in the system I will never ever be able to claim warranty on the phone. I literally had to pleade and beg him for several hours to change the display did he finally agree. Even in this he said he is doing a big favor to me and warned me not to ever root the device again if I want warranty.
Now I want to ask has oneplus officially changed their policy on rooting? If so why does their website still say that rooting does not void your warranty if the service center claims otherwise.
The technical process of rooting or unlocking the bootloader does not void the warranty of a OnePlus device. However, we strongly suggest for you to only root or unlock the bootloader of your OnePlus device if you are confident in your understanding of the risks involved.
By accessing resources regularly unavailable to the software, you may damage your hardware during or after the procedure. Such damage is not covered under warranty. In warranty handling, we will first need to verify that any faulty behavior is unrelated to rooting / unlocking.
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This is what the website tells us about rooting and warranty. (source: https://oneplus.net/nl/support/answer/will-rooting-or-unlocking-the-bootloader-void-my-warranty)
As far as I know the policy didn't change. I can understand the confusion from the service center point of view, but there is no such thing as hardware or software warranty. Only hardware damage caused by software related hacks/tweaks (which can be used after unlocking/rooting), is not covered under warranty. I assume your screen damage does not fall under that category and it is caused by fall damage for example.
Bobbika said:
This is what the website tells us about rooting and warranty. (source: https://oneplus.net/nl/support/answer/will-rooting-or-unlocking-the-bootloader-void-my-warranty)
As far as I know the policy didn't change. I can understand the confusion from the service center point of view, but there is no such thing as hardware or software warranty. Only hardware damage caused by software related hacks/tweaks (which can be used after unlocking/rooting), is not covered under warranty. I assume your screen damage does not fall under that category and it is caused by fall damage for example.
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I did not have a screen damage, my phone screen had lost sensitivity and was registering swipe motion as touch . This started happening even before I was rooted and in no way connected to the process of rooting. They tried to deny me warranty on this.
i_rock098 said:
I did not have a screen damage, my phone screen had lost sensitivity and was registering swipe motion as touch . This started happening even before I was rooted and in no way connected to the process of rooting. They tried to deny me warranty on this.
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May i ask in what country this happend? It's not only Oneplus that does this stuff btw. Next time show him what is on the site. If he denies you simply ask his name and send Oneplus a email about it.. I can work at a service center too and say this stuff.. Its not only Oneplus..
i_rock098 said:
I did not have a screen damage, my phone screen had lost sensitivity and was registering swipe motion as touch . This started happening even before I was rooted and in no way connected to the process of rooting. They tried to deny me warranty on this.
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In that case I'd say it was your own risk to start rooting your device after you knew there were issues with it.
The problem with the current warranty policy is that it's hard to prove what damage rooting could cause. In your case the repair shop could say that you might have overclocked your device with the acquired root. With that the device can overheat and the digitizer (which handles the touchscreen input) could be overheated as well and starts to fail. Not saying that is the case here, but it would be hard to prove otherwise.
In other words, when you have to deal with warranty and repair, it's a good advice to give them no reasons to deny the warranty.
TLDR: Repair your device before rooting
At least here in Germany this is illegal and NOT possible. At least the given by law warranty has to be given even with root unless they can prove it caused the defect, so they have to prove their claim and not you. Any extened warranty from the company itself can be waaay different though.
Puddi_Puddin said:
May i ask in what country this happend? It's not only Oneplus that does this stuff btw. Next time show him what is on the site. If he denies you simply ask his name and send Oneplus a email about it.. I can work at a service center too and say this stuff.. Its not only Oneplus..
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This is in India. we have one of the worst consumer policies in the world where often service centers treat customers like ****. He was pretty confident in telling me to go talk to oneplus if i want it wont help and that if he ever marks the phone as rooted in the system i would never ever be able to claim warranty on the phone.
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In that case I'd say it was your own risk to start rooting your device after you knew there were issues with it.
The problem with the current warranty policy is that it's hard to prove what damage rooting could cause. In your case the repair shop could say that you might have overclocked your device with the acquired root. With that the device can overheat and the digitizer (which handles the touchscreen input) could be overheated as well and starts to fail. Not saying that is the case here, but it would be hard to prove otherwise.
In other words, when you have to deal with warranty and repair, it's a good advice to give them no reasons to deny the warranty.
TLDR: Repair your device before rooting
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I agree that I should have gone to fix it before rooting but then again if they had not mentioned on their site clearly that rooting does not void your warranty I would have not rooted at all in the first place till my warranty period got over. I dont mind taking a brunt for a fault of mine due to flashing like getting stuck in a bootlop or something but this clearly was a manufacturing defect and not mine.
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At least here in Germany this is illegal and NOT possible. At least the given by law warranty has to be given even with root unless they can prove it caused the defect, so they have to prove their claim and not you. Any extened warranty from the company itself can be waaay different though.
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Yeah unfortunately I am in India and here like i mentioned in the post earlier we have very weak consumer laws, even if i would sue them the case would drag on for like 5 years with no guaranty that it would still get resolved.
@i_rock098
I have no local stores in my country, everything must be shipped. When facing a problem you need to get some repair ticket from the website. That would mean you don't need the ... local support store. Also it should be possible to simply restore the phone's software to stock before sending it to OnePlus. Have you tried bringing itr back to stock or is the phone freaking out in a way making it impossible?
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@i_rock098
I have no local stores in my country, everything must be shipped. When facing a problem you need to get some repair ticket from the website. That would mean you don't need the ... local support store. Also it should be possible to simply restore the phone's software to stock before sending it to OnePlus. Have you tried bringing itr back to stock or is the phone freaking out in a way making it impossible?
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And to add to this.
If you have an issue with your phone feel free to make a post. As long as you provide decent information I'm pretty sure people including me are here to you help you.
Repeat after me, the store is in INDIA. I don't do business with India. I did business with OnePlus China and OnePlus US and received superior assistance, including a free replacement phone when my rooted phone could not be repaired.
These are topics where OnePlus customer service could (and should) step in and make a name for themselves, or at least start to.
OP, send a support ticket to OnePlus, add the e-mail address of the service centre to the cc and when you get a response from OnePlus, go back and politely ask them to repair the phone according to the OnePlus warranty terms.
Forget these repair shops in India. These are probably not official OnePlus service centers, as I don't think they have stores set up anywhere. According to the YouTube video that they OnePlus made, they only offer repair services through their website, OnePlus.net/support. You need to contact them via phone (It is listed on their website), and they will then determine if it needs to be sent to them for repair via RMA. https://youtu.be/KCdu8VhleVM
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Forget these repair shops in India. These are probably not official OnePlus service centers, as I don't think they have stores set up anywhere. According to the YouTube video that they OnePlus made, they only offer repair services through their website, OnePlus.net/support. You need to contact them via phone (It is listed on their website), and they will then determine if it needs to be sent to them for repair via RMA. https://youtu.be/KCdu8VhleVM
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There are official repair centres (approved by OnePlus but not run by them) for OnePlus in India. But I don't know whether the OP went to an official centre or not.
As with almost all official repair centres of any manufacturer, there are two ways of asking for repair during warranty. One is what is mentioned by you ie. contact OnePlus directly, they will issue a ticket number and then armed with that, you approach the repair centre. The other way is directly walking into the repair centre and asking for warranty repair. I think the OP adopted this and as is likely in most such situations, the repair centre tried to outsmart him. IMO, if the OP had contacted OnePlus first, this issue might not have arisen at all.
I am speaking on the authority of my experience of approaching Acer directly the first time and going to the repair centre directly the second time. Ofcourse the second time I was given a run around which I ultimately overcame.