Voice recognition got very bad lately - Google Home

Hello all
I have purchased a Mini and a regular Ghome around Christmas last year . They have been working fantastically as far as recognizing commands and such.
Hue lights, Spotify music ...etc
The only problem that I have had was not being able to open Netflix on my Android TV(Sony) although it works with a Chromecast. Nobody was able to explain why, but I could live with that
Recently (past 2 months or so) the voice recognition got so bad to the point that I would go and grab my phone and do whatever command I wanted (mostly turning on and off the lights).
Unlike initially when I could say it across the room (Hey Google turn the bedroom lights off) , now it keeps on saying "Sorry I cannot help with that" and so on. Or it would be picking up a totally random word and screw up the whole sentence. I have not changed anything in my setup, i have reset the bejesus out of all my equipment with no luck.
It became so frustrating but what is even more frustrating is that I have no clue what caused it.
Tried closer, literally yelling from right above it with no success. It would take it let's say, out of 10 attempts maybe 2 will be going through, unless I get pissed and drop it altogether. This is happening on both the Mini and the "big" Ghome.
Has anyone experienced the same issues with their devices lately? If yes have you guys been able to fix it or it's just one of the Google screwups that will be fixed whenever will be fixed?
The Google reps when chatting are useless and keep giving me useless troubleshooting steps that I have already done.
Funny thing is that if I say the same commands to my phone it takes it right away .
Thank you for your input

rainfactor said:
Hello all
I have purchased a Mini and a regular Ghome around Christmas last year . They have been working fantastically as far as recognizing commands and such.
Hue lights, Spotify music ...etc
The only problem that I have had was not being able to open Netflix on my Android TV(Sony) although it works with a Chromecast. Nobody was able to explain why, but I could live with that
Recently (past 2 months or so) the voice recognition got so bad to the point that I would go and grab my phone and do whatever command I wanted (mostly turning on and off the lights).
Unlike initially when I could say it across the room (Hey Google turn the bedroom lights off) , now it keeps on saying "Sorry I cannot help with that" and so on. Or it would be picking up a totally random word and screw up the whole sentence. I have not changed anything in my setup, i have reset the bejesus out of all my equipment with no luck.
It became so frustrating but what is even more frustrating is that I have no clue what caused it.
Tried closer, literally yelling from right above it with no success. It would take it let's say, out of 10 attempts maybe 2 will be going through, unless I get pissed and drop it altogether. This is happening on both the Mini and the "big" Ghome.
Has anyone experienced the same issues with their devices lately? If yes have you guys been able to fix it or it's just one of the Google screwups that will be fixed whenever will be fixed?
The Google reps when chatting are useless and keep giving me useless troubleshooting steps that I have already done.
Funny thing is that if I say the same commands to my phone it takes it right away .
Thank you for your input
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Hmm, I have about the same, but no fix here either. The timeline sounds about right too, about 2 months or so. Same with my Hue lights. I don't have my Hue account hooked up in my Home app since Goog Voice is supposed to work natively with Hue lights with a bridge. I was thinking of maybe adding my Hue account into my Home app and see if that helps. Haven't quite gotten to it yet. :angel:

Same here

Voice Recognition
Yes it's true as the time pass by the voice recognition is getting worse recently when i said to turn off the light of my room it did but after saying 3 - 4 times but now it turn off the entire light of my house.

Google home not performing
I have used the home during 2017 and it was very good in picking up what I say. During 2018 the hearing abilities has been very effected and hard reset and starting over did not solve it.

I moved mine to the end table at like 3ft off the ground it's Mic being on top hear much better now. No more telling or repeating myself

Sounds very familiar. Especially my wife has been getting tantrums because GH doesn't understand her. (Insert joke about not understanding wife)

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Backlight turns on, then after delay, message or call arrives

Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!
Gas Addict said:
Hi everyone,
I've searched the forums through Google extensively trying to find out if anyone else is having the same problem that I am, but haven't been able to find any related threads.
I'm using the ATT Tilt with Dutty's WM6 ROM and the .17 radio -- I've noticed that when a text message arrives and my phone is in standby with the screen off, the backlight will turn on and then about 3-5 seconds later, the actual text message will show up on the screen or the call will show up...
I'm not sure if others are experiencing this and if anyone has a solution to it -- its not the end of the world if I have to live with it, was just hoping maybe someone else experienced the same thing and had found a solution...
Thank you very much!
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I have this too....I don't really mind though. I see it light up on my desk, look down, and watch my email/message appear.
I'm on Dutty's v4 and .11
Same experience here.
As long as this isn't the case with telephone calls, I can live with it
Having a 5 second delay on answering a phone call could make you miss the call...
dont really se the problem tbh, the phne wakes up when it starts receiving the message and then notifies you when its arrived - the lag you observe must be simply he time it takes to download the message?
Happens to me every time. I see my phone light up, and know I'm getting a message. When I get a call it lights up and instantly shows who's calling.
I agree this isn't so much a problem. I see it as FAD (Functioning As Designed).
See what happens is the Tower Sends a signal to the Phone saying (Incoming Call/Message Heading your way). It Wakes Up checks its Registry for What you set your Ringtone as. Tower passes the Call and It Rings. You Hit the Green Phone and You are connected YAY!
Now Messages are a tad different. The Phone wakes up looks for what your Message Alert Tone is. Tower Passes the Message. The Phone saves it, makes it into a readable format (If you have Threaded SMS adds it to the proper thread) and Notifies you that all is ready.
Same here, I like it. I can pick up the phone before it makes sound and have the phone already in my hand when the msg is showing up.
no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.
same here
i see no problem in this
snathanb said:
no different than when my non-3g phones would start chattering with the pc speakers a few seconds before an incoming call or message.
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I loved that!
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
Ducka-Duck-Ducka-Duck-
RIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNGGGGGG
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.
Sleuth255 said:
OT but... iPhone users are suing apple over that btw b/c it's blowing out their expensive home theater speakers. (no shielding due to thin design = DUCKA-DUCK-DUCKA-DUCK instead of ducka-duck-ducka-duck)
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Yes I had a friend who went to the dark side and had a iPhone It was indeed LOUD. Never thought of suing Apple for it.
~~Tito~~ said:
Nuh uh. Lol, when I had my iPhone I had no chattering at all, only on crappy speakers.
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Well Think about that statement how many iPhone users are smart? Most are trend followers and don't know much about speakers probably got sold to them by some "winner" at Big Buy.
I have the same problem.
on mine too, but only for messaging.
Same problem for messaging and calls. I pretty think this glich is for all HTC phones. Seen this on HTC touch too.
I've had many different PDA phones over the last five years and used many different cooked ROMS (starting off with the original WM2003) and this has always been the normal behavior. Must be by design.
Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.
Gas Addict said:
Hmm, I dunno if its about being by design as much as it has to do with the fact that from wakeup to showing the message it takes much longer on a complex PDA than it does on a simple phone with no complicated programs or settings in it.
IMHO it seems that because of all the bulk of software running on a PDA with an OS and all, it just isn't as efficient at doing simple small tasks as a regular non-PDA phone is....which I guess is the price we pay for carrying little computers in our pockets rather than a simple phone.
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I would agree with that statement. My wife's razr lights up and rings instantaneously...but has the functionality of my big toe.
Alright Lets Put an End to this. this ISN'T a PROBLEM. Its how Phones Work If they are "asleep" or not in "Full Operation Mode" then it must "Wake" to fully operate the processes that are needed to do what it is asked. Start a Call, Receive a message, etc etc.
And just FYI, My Old V3 Razr would Turn on The Front screen a couple seconds before I received a message or a call.

N1 user frustrated with issues???

Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
1) Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
2) Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
3) Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
4) When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
5) When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
6) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
7) I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
faraz1992 said:
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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I dont have a single one of these issues. I guess it depends just how much of a complainer you want to be. It's like complaining about a laptop you have without keeping things in perspective such as 10 years ago DESKTOP's were the rage. The person should calm down with the complaining and enjoy the phone...
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
DarkDvr said:
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
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Talk about a deal breaker *sigh*
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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You should totally add those to their comments.
DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.
ryscar said:
My thoughts exactly! Especially number 17... that's a real disappointment.
Honestly, the only ones I can kinda agree with are the proximity/light sensor issues. It seems to be a bit slow when I pull it away from my ear when in direct sunlight. But, I know where the end button is so it's no big deal.
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Yep same here, that's the only 'Issue' I have. If that's the worst thing I've to deal with I'll be a happy man
DarkDvr said:
I got some more to add.
16. Doesn't work if thrown against the wall at excess of 30 mph.
17. Doesn't respond to sexual advances from males.
18. Software is written by people, not Gods, and contains bugs.
19. When bathed in brake fluid or acid, teflon coating comes off.
20. When kept in back pocket of tight jeans, doesn't withhold breaking pressures of 100PSI when sitting down. Hence, flimsy.
21. Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
22. I heard it faked its own birth certificate and will win 2012 elections and rule the world with communism.
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LoL this made my day
23. Name doesn't begin with the letter "i".
1) 3G connectivity issue
It was patched with Update1
2) Touch Screen unresponsiveness/sensing incorrect input
It happens occasionally, but can be fixed by turning the screen off then back on
3) unresponsive trackball
Haven't had this at all
4) WIFI connectivity issue
Some times it doesn't reconnect to wifi automatically
5) Lock button response issue
Haven't had this.
6) Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
Haven't had issues with this
7) Ambient light sensor issue
Haven't had any issues
8)bluetooth issues: fails to operate; inadequate volume; intermittent failure to accept commands
Haven't had this at all. Working beautifully for me.
9) speaker: horrible sound quality
Ha. Compared to 5.1 speakers maybe
10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
11) earpiece: insufficient volume
See answer to number 10
12) headset connector: headphones cord activates pause or other functions
I've only seen this happen with Pandora, but recently stopped doing this.
13) manufacturer says phone cannot go in pocket
Every manufacturer says you shouldnt put your phone in your pocket. This doesn't stop people from doing it. I keep mine in my pocket, (Always comes out nice and shiny. Go go Pocket Cleaner)
14) Phone mutes when calling people and can only be unmuted by turning mute on then off!
WTF... Haven't heard of this.
15) missed call notification trackball does not flash
Works great for me.
Someone really doesn't like Android. When you don't understand something, just hate on it right?
archangelugp said:
10) ringer: insufficient volume
Thats what the volume up button is for
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hahahahha
I noticed that people with android phones in general are far more happy and optimistic than any WM owners I've seen so far.. Maybe I'm just imagining thou =)
Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.
faraz1992 said:
Came across this http://phandroid.com/2010/04/08/nexus-one-users-are-getting-fed-up-with-issues/
Is this some new trick by iPhoners or is it really true?
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Bull**t
#teamAndroid
Totally agree with others who say they have none of the described issues.
Bad batch? REALLY?
DMaverick50 said:
Wow Ill be the first one to say the nexus software has enough issues to push me to Apple but even I think that list is finicky. I think users need to at least wait for a couple of updates before giving up on the device. I guess it can't hurt to point out the issues but several of those listed really aren't even worth mentioning.
Edit: I just read the article, pretty harsh! While I've only had a couple of the issues listed I've had many other issues that aren't listed. My main frustration though, and I don't care how the iPhone compares here, is that almost all of the issues I have can be fixed ota but I've heard nothing from Google. The main problems on my end are that the touchscreen is jittery and the images lose quality when I touch the screen and the RAM isn't utilized properly. I have various other minor annoyances -(vkb, boring widgets, etc) and bugs -(random reboot, browser issues, lower effective resolution than advertised, etc) but they are almost all software related, which is a great thing. And if Google would just indicate a willingness or plan to fix my issues I could really relax. I really love all of the integration and Google apps so I'm going to wait and see what happens but at the very least Android needs to share some sort of plan of action. If they did this a lot if not all of the software complaints would cease.
P.S.- considering the iPhone's unimpressive though overdue software upgrades, unless the new iPhone has better resolution, dual mics, hd recording, and front facing camera, I'm not impressed.
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I agree...
Well don't be so quick to dismiss the frustrated users. Some of the things on that list is petty although somewhat accurate i guess, speaker could be louder. I've also had an issue with cradling the phone against my shoulder as that seems to affect the quality of my voice and people complain i sound like i'm "in a tunnel" or far away. I'm guessing something with the noise canceling mic.
I've had the data connection issues which seems to just be a cell radio issue, probably hardware based with my replacement phone at least. I had my old phone replaced because it just did not want to connect via data or whatever for 5-20 seconds all the way up to 2 or 3 minutes. The up arrow on the 3g without any data coming back down issue. Whenever I did a speed test.. upload sometimes would be horrible and it would be really choppy (doing the speedtest.net one) compared to the download. By choppy i mean the meter would jump to different values (it wasn't smooth and consistent like the download) and sometimes it would just stop as would the data indicator lights. It was always around 100-500 kbps averaging around 300. Same behavior for both the original and the RMA.
With the replacement one that i've had for a couple of weeks that issue turned into a much larger one. It started when I wasn't able to make outbound calls so i turned off my phone and turned it back on again to get the x with four blank bars at the top. Re-registered on the network... seemed to work ok for awhile. Then the same thing but started getting a "sim card isn't valid for this network" error when trying to re-register my phone after again starting to randomly show me an x with 4 blank bars at the top. Hard resetting and soft resetting didn't fix it. Sometimes it'd give me an error even searching for them. When i first got the problem it was brief.. but i figured i should get my sim card replaced. So i did. 3-4 days later I wasn't able to get it to work for almost 3 hours.. on my way to the tmobile store it just went from x with 4 bars to 4 full bars and then finally the 3g indicator to the left of that came on. Turned around cause I really didn't have the time to figure out what it was about at that moment. Data worked, could make a phone call. Next day it just got worse to the point now where it wont' search for a network sometimes.. gives me an error after sometime.. and definitely won't register on the network. I also had airplane mode turned on automatically after a soft reset (despite it showing an x and 4 bars and not an airplane)wasn't able to turn it off via the android menu settings. Had to go into the service menu and press turn radio on button.
WIFI still works however.. but that's a separate chip from the cell radio chip and its has just wifi/bluetooth on it so that makes sense.
I've had tmobile double and tripple check everything, network cancellation, sim replacement, check the towers nearby, make sure my plan is setup correctly for my phone. I'm going with poor build quality on some of these and bad quality checking... I guess time will tell. Getting my swap on monday... car dock arrived today and is just sitting on my desk.
3G connection
I have had my Nexus One for a week now...... My area has only had T-Mobile 3G coverage for about a month... At the T-Mobile store all their phones have full 3G service and my Nexus was on Edge only... The HD2 Demo in the store had full bars of 3G and my phone was just pushing out Edge... It flipped to 1 and 2 bars of 3G a couple of times but reverted back to Edge... At home I can set it on my desk or coffee table and set up the screen to stay on for 30 minutes and with out moving the phone watch it flip between 3 bars of 3G to 4 bars of Edge and it does this constantly... Even if I go outside and in my yard set it down and just watch it switch back and forth between Edge and 3G.... The girl next door has the My Touch 3G and she has full 3G service on her phone it never flips between Edge and 3G but the Nexus One does... The day I got it and hooked it up the phone rebooted and loaded the latest firmware and it did this twice.. if I look for manual updates for the phone it says it has the latest software. have not had any of the other issues being posted on here. I have followed some suggestions to go to the settings, networks, mobile networks, network operators and then select automatically (Which was a fix I read about from another post) still no help.. Still flips back and forth between edge and 3G.... How can another phone (The HD2 which I purchased and returned after a week... Windows Mobile is horrible even with sense layered over it) have no problem keeping a 3G signal but the Nexus one continues to drop the signal? Not sure if maybe I got a bad unit and it needs to be exchanged???? Any suggestions on the 3G problem? other than that the phone has been amazing.. I love the stock android 2.1 OS.... the Camera is pretty awesome for a phone...
@Robbie317 Post on the nexus one forums and call them up as well and tell them exactly what you posted here. Personally I'd recommend against an RMA until another update comes back cause who knows what issues the next one can give you if you do a swap... and unless you can wait 1-2 weeks for the same phone to come back to you from a repair I'd wait it out for and update and just ***** on the nexus one tech support forums and calling them. Say what you said here. Hell call them in the store at t-mobile. Take a picture of your bars on your phone next to an HD2. I think its important to get the point across to them as clearly as possible. I'm sure they're aware of most of these issues though.
Also it seems my phone is working again now.. weird and annoying stuff. I filed an FTC complain. Might seem excessive but I looked over those support forums alot today. This is not an isolated issue that is just affecting a small minority of phones that slipped passed quality control. It's also not an issue with t-mobile because they are people who are complaining about the same issues I've had (that got worse over the last 2 weeks) and have AT&T. RYGUY asked for more info in one post to look into the issues being reported so I'm glad they're doing *something* but its definitely not enough. I'm just hoping its not a hardware or design defect in the phone.
pink/red tint in photos is fixed in Cyanogen's 5.0.6
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21) Does not transform into a huge robot and doesn't save the planet from evil iPhone-transformed robots, leaving our planet defenseless.
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This is the main reason I'm returning mine.

Is the GPS fixed by Google?

I know this seems odd but the GPS seems fixed; without tampering with the settings. A friend bought a Fascinate so we started comparing crappy GPS. While his had him in Eastern Europe, mine was dead on accurate. It was like it wasn't the phone I've been using for months that couldn't keep a lock in the middle of a field on a sunny day.
I was running JH7 and started using the GPS every chance I got and it never lost a lock and usually locked in 30 seconds or less. The Fascinate also isn't having any problem after he got the market app to connect.
It's been almost two weeks and it's still working perfectly. I'm in my basement and it's locking me within 80ft right now; which I consider pretty good for being underground. I've never changed the settings so I had no idea why it started working.
Anyway; I bought my wife a Focus and spent a lot of time in AT&T stores while she SLOWLY shopped for a phone. Two different stores both told me that the GPS is fixed. I blew it off as not caring (see below comments about Froyo) but even the display model was locking fast and finally got 'in' the building after a minute. 3 reps at two different stores told me it's been fixed.
What I don't understand is they both stated the fix didn't come from Samsung. It came from an update of Maps over the last month. Maybe they were versed.
So my GPS magically works now. I ocassionally get a larger blue circle but most of the time have no range of error. It does sometimes jump in fast turns like i'm going straight but corrects itself before Navigation gets a chance to re-route.
Is anyone else seeing this?
Lastly; one guy was irritating me with arguing with me why I was telling my wife she'd want more space then the 3GS 8GB offerred. I tried to annoy him and started badgering him about my Froyo. His response is below.
"Don't know and don't care! We sell the phones as is and don't care if they ever get updated as they are great phones as is"
Coming from a corporate AT&T store making this comment didn't appease me. His comment, and the announcement well be the only non-froyo galaxy by month end led me to put Cognition on the phone again.
i did read that the US govt was preforming some tests on GPS satiltes lately and some people in the mid (EAST??) Us would experiecne problems
As much as I want to believe a fix is coming, I've given up on it. Keep in mind I live near Baltimore, MD, and my GPS has always been 'good enough to barely get me turn-by-turn directions.'
The update you are referring to (as well as most people whom first claim an update fixed GPS), is a google maps update that allows path prediction. The best way to test this is to take your phone for a drive with MyTracks, but there is an easy way to test the prediction vs. actual performance.
If you are driving along a road (lets say you get to 40mph+) and are coming up on a red traffic light or stop sign; proceed and then try to stop fairly quickly (please be safe). Immediately look at your phone for your location, and you will notice your arrow being way ahead of you, and it will start working its way back to your current location. The same thing will happen if you take a right-turn detour from your projected route (it will show you go straight past, and then try to work it's way over to finding your actual location). The stronger lock you have, the more responsive this will be.
Either way, I'm fortunate enough to have a Garmin for road trips since the captivate generally has trouble keeping me tracked with a decent level of accuracy.
FYI: For my trips, it's all outside Baltimore. No big buildings, clear day no clouds, etc.

Droid 3 GPS Issues

I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?
I, too, have the same issue with GPS. I use SportyPal Pro, and cannot use my Droid 3 when running/walking. I can go for a 5 mile run, and SportyPal will show I had ran 6 miles. I can run north to south in a straight line, and when finished, SportyPal will show that I went east and west as much as 400-500 feet off of that straight line and because of that can add anywhere from .1 miles to .5 miles to that 1 mile run.
It is so unreliable that I will use my older decommisioned Droid2 to run with. It works perfectly with the same software.
If anybody has any suggestions, I'm all ears.
bishop0114 said:
I have had continuous issues with the Droid 3. One of my biggest issues is that the GPS seems completely unstable. I have tried turning on/off GPS options, etc...
Weather I try to use Google Maps or another application such as Endomondo, it cant maintain a lock. It seems to be able to locate me within 12 - 30 feet and then within a mile!!!
Using an application like Endomondo (running, cycling, etc), is completely useless. It can't track my location at all and when it does lock on, it only holds for a few seconds and then gone again.
I took the phone in to Verizon with a complaint about the GPs and screen issues (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1239980) and the rep said both were normal for this phone...
Has anyone figured out a way to resolve this problem?
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Sadly, I have the same issues.
Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?
bishop0114 said:
Well with only 3 people chiming in, maybe it is bad hardware?
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God, I hope not. I have enough problems with this phone as it is.
No problems with GPS for me
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kshen1 said:
No problems with GPS for me
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Are you using it for navigation only? Or a similar application for running/walking?
The reason I ask is because I do not notice a problem during navigation. It works great for that without any problems. Until I get to downtown Chicago. I almost expect problems there. Even with my Droid2.
i've only had issues with my gps in areas with lte. when im at college im in a city with lte support and my gps doesn't work (my friend who has an X also has issues with his gps when in areas with lte). when im home where there isnt lte support my gps works fine.
No it's not hardware mine works flawlessly and almost instantly fixes position, tho i have modded the gps.conf found in the etc folder. Details for tweaking this for your region can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=13537801&postcount=1
Many thanx to 75markus for this.
Since we don't have a recovery yet to flash a zip you will need to edit the gps.conf file manually.
Oceanic region can be found in my sig below apart of my camera mod.
-smc
The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
-SR-
I'm not having any GPS issues on my phone. Perhaps it's based on the area your in?
I know it's satellite but.. just a guess.
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The problem I was having with the GPS from Day 1 is that I would occasionally notice that it would not start up at all when openning a GPS-dependant app (such as Maps or Weatherbug, etc). Whenever that happened, I would have to restart the phone, and then the GPS would be able to initialize again... at least, for a while.
Eventually, I was digging around in the setting and found the "VZW location services" option under "Location & security settings". I unchecked that option and, ever since, I've had no problem with the GPS. It seems that th VZW-based location services were causing the problem. Of course, since then, I've rooted and frozen all of the VZW bloat, so I might be able to turn that option back on with no ill effect. Still, it was as simple enough fix.
My issue might not sound exactly the same as yours, but you could give this a try and see if it helps.
-SR-
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I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.
a_lazy_dude said:
I have been experiencing the exact same problem and temporary solution (restarting) since day 1, on both my first and second droid 3's. Difference is, I've had VZW location services unchecked since around the time I first got the phones, and I am still experiencing the problem... even as recently as last night. I just double-checked the setting, and indeed, VZW location services is stil unchecked.
Once I have lock I usually have no problem continuously using GPS. Last night, I tracked a two and a half hour walk using the My Tracks app, including a 45 minute stop for dinner indoors. For the first 10 minutes, it couldnt find a signal, so I restarted. It got a lock almost instantly following the restart and never lost it after that. I had the app running for the whole excursion. As expected, it got a little confused while I was inside, but automatically picked the signal right back up when I got back outside and tracked my entire walk back home.
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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.
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When you look at your walk on the map, is it true to where you actually walked? If I do that same walk on my phone, it will show me deviating off course as much as a 1/2 block and then back. I can tolerate that deviation once and maybe twice during my runs/walks. However, mine does it the majority of the time, adding bogus mileage to my walks/runs. In an hour's time, it will deviate approximately 20-30 times.
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Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.
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Just took a closer look at the track it recorded. I definitely do see these kinds of deviations, but they seem to only be in areas where I think it'd be reasonable to expect them. I live in a suburb, so I don't have any tall building to mess with the GPS reception, instead, I have somewhat steep hillsides. It seems I get a fair amount of deviation in the (significantly) hilly areas (it looks like I was walking down people's driveways, then across their front yards, when in reality I was just walking more or less straight down the sidewalk), but in the flat areas the line has almost no significant deviations, just some minor noise. Next time, at the risk of my fiance calling me a geek, I'll take my Droid 1 along for the trip, and see how the two records compare.
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I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.
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I've attached screenshots from two runs. D2 is this morning's run with my Droid 2. It's flawless. D3 is the last run I did with my Droid 3. Looking at it you can understand my disgust with it. Ignore the big missing section from both shots. I wouldn't want anyone knowing the exact location of where I live. Someone might come steal my Droid 3.
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WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.
I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...
bishop0114 said:
WOW... That is awful but a great example of the concern with this phone. You are actually doing much better than me. Mine is only able to triangulate down to about 20 feet and then it bounces between 20 and 300 feet!!!
I am going to call VZW today and see about a replacement phone but I doubt it will resolve the problem.
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With that kind of change in accuracy, it seems like it isn't using the GPS as all, but just the cell towers. Is the GPS logo showing in the notification bar when that is happening? If it's there, is it blinking or solid?
-SR-
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I just called VZW and once again, they said the accuracy was normal... They said none of their phones can lock on with the accuracy I described and if it has, I have been lucky. He said their phones are only accurate within 500 feet!
I explained to him that with that accuracy, it would be totally useless to use as a navigation device...
He looked through their documentation and said he has no record of other people having issues with the GPS... He also said he has no record of the blue tint when taking pictures.....
Oh well. I hope the replacement fixes it...
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My humble opinion of VZW representatives...they're all full of BS. They're going to tell you what they need to tell you to get your out of the store or off of the phone if you're not buying anything. A representative's main concern is sales. Sell him another phone, renew his contract, add a line, add a feature.
This issue may be better addressed to Motorola directly. I may make that phone call today.
I just got off the phone with Motorola tech support. Same story as VZW gives. There are NO known issues with the Droid 3. I asked about the GPS, the bluish pics the cam takes and battery life. The only thing the tech would say is the phone "needs to be evaluated"

Question Overheat issue as of April 2022

I've been scouring the web trying to find *current* info about the overheating issue, but all I'm finding is stuff from last year. Nothing new about whether it was ever fixed by a software path, or if current inventory has a hardware fix, or if Google just ignored it as they often do. I'd like to know if I buy a new Pixel 5a today, directly from Google, if it still may have the problem. I'd be grateful for any info, thanks!
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I've been scouring the web trying to find *current* info about the overheating issue, but all I'm finding is stuff from last year. Nothing new about whether it was ever fixed by a software path, or if current inventory has a hardware fix, or if Google just ignored it as they often do. I'd like to know if I buy a new Pixel 5a today, directly from Google, if it still may have the problem. I'd be grateful for any info, thanks!
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I don't play games and I don't use 4k video on my camera. For me phone is great didn't get worm once, but that is just my use, pictures, fullHD video, chat, video calls, phonecalls and browsing and watching videos.
I meet this problem when I take photos or video ([email protected]).
I have had issues by simply using Android Auto in my vehicle in less than 10 minutes of use. I have also experienced the overheating when recording videos even though I have followed all of the tips in Google's support email.
If I'm using Android Auto, I have to keep the phone in front of an AC vent in my car - otherwise all radios shut off within 1-2 minutes, followed a few minutes later by an overheat message (at that point it's already throttled so bad that the phone is completely unusable anyway).
Any teleconference app that uses the front camera causes it to shut down all radios about 1-2 minutes before popping up the overheat message with no warning before turning off radios (Zoom, Mychart, CVS Minute Clinic, Teladoc, even a Facebook Messenger video call). Drove me crazy trying to do a telemedicine appointment with my doctor, he finally called me instead.
Even just trying to do a phone call with Google Maps running during the call makes this damn thing overheat. Taking it out of the case (Spigen Slimarmor) seems to delay it by about a minute.
Honestly, if Fi didn't require me to keep it active for 120 days to keep the discount I got on it, I would have run the damn thing under an 18 wheeler by now. The only benefits over my old OP8T are the camera app and the physical size. That's it. Luckily I still have it, so once I hit that 120 days, I'm going back to the 8T.
Has anyone tried alternate ROMs to see if they handle the overheating issue any better? I'm especially interested in LineageOS. I imagine some kernel changes to scheduling and clocks could handle things better for this processor.

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