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Sweeter Home!

Has anyone downloaded the free preview for this app? It looks awesome and has a user edit built in.
Finally a different home setup that really changes the interaction.

Yep - MASSIVE editing abilities. Great start and should hopefully get better. The app scrolling is faster than the standard Android home in my experience, no lag at all! Few force closes while editting here and there but mostly remembers what you edited when it relaunches. Calendar seems broken for me, only shows a handful of what appointments I actually have coming up. Still in Beta though so with improvements could be exceptional.

Tried it out last night, not really my cup of tea. I like Open Home much better. Also, it force closed on me countless times, untill it just got too annoying and I uninstalled.

OK this thing has some pretty great potential. I'm going to build some screens and upload screen shots later. EG, no need for folders, you can create a realtime scrolling tray and drag apps into it.

Good stuff so far. Shows a lot of potential. I think you should be able to span background wallpapers like in normal home, and not just the same image stretched for every pane. I think there also needs to be more controls over the layout options. Good start. I wish the other home alternatives had this kind of customization.

Maybe I'm just lazy or maybe it's that I've gotten used to using dxTop, but the layout of it is horrendous! I mean, I even think all the screens of aHome is better than that. Up, home, right, home, left, home, etc. I found it annoying within the first 5 minutes.

its not about UI right now
this has more potential than all the other home screen changing applications which mostly all they do is change icons...and added extra screens, this goes beyond it and makes your G1 efficient and business savy, recent calls, texts, etc all in front of the screen.. like yes it has UI problems, but the potential of ACTUAL customization is beyond these other applications, and they charge..
with their lite versions etc.
it has made the home page a personal thing, and isn't that what we all love, personalization.

reynchan said:
its not about UI right now
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For introductions, that's all it's about. I'm not talking about themes or anything else, but the layout is crap. The idea may be good and maybe if those tabs stayed on each screen so you don't have to constantly go back to the center to get anywhere it would be more efficient. But, as it stands if I'm not impressed by how it looks, I'm not even going to waste my time in testing it out...same as how I won't give a website a chance if it's appearance is lacking. First impressions are everything.

so im guessing, judge a book by its cover.
i agree with the UI being hideous.
but compared to ahome, dxtop and open home, all they're done is the same thing, a couple widgets, extra pages (that just move differently from each other) and changing icons. that's it..
yehs, sweeter home is not good to look at, its the ugly duckling right now, but with all its features and the developer open for suggestions and implementing things, it's far better than the other home applications.
i gave it a chance and tested the product out before making any ASSUMPTIONS and i like the features but not the UI, but everything is a work in progress and the developer actually went beyond just chaning major icons, adding an extra page and widgets like what OTHER HOME applications have already done.

I make no assumptions, merely observations. I don't like the UI and attraction is the first step to any partnership. I never said I wasn't willing to give it a shot later, you assumed that. I said as it is now, it sucks.
From my experience with dxTop, the UI works with the theme I have on my phone. There are no extra downloads or specifics that I have to implement. I'm not saying it's the best, but that's a lot better than any of the others are doing.

Tried it, a little too much for me.
I like it simple. Open Home for me.

Here's screen 1, 2 and 3 I've set up so far. Few bugs I've found (app TRAY has started duplicating the actual apps in it for every new tray added, not sure why)... anyway, looks pretty good and once more stability and features are released this will be my default home I think...
Left is SMS's with quick links to contact apps below.
Middle is (top) most used apps, (middle) all apps, (bottom) communication apps, (here's where I want more app trays but won't really work atm, I want a utils tray, games try, notes tray, and comms tray with all apps on a different screen).
Right is contact list.
--- Photobucket died right when I updated the images, stand by --

I think I figured out the tray duplication thing, just gotta test it. RENAME the trays! LOL.
EDIT: updated screen above. Got extra trays working - all scroll horizontally. Added labels to app trays and added labels to SMS and contacts list.
Next: "all" apps tray on the lower screen, and skin the calendar (even though it's broken) on the top screen...

I tried getting this app last night and a few times today but I keep getting "download unsecessful".

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punkweakling said:
There we go...
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Wow, I definitely need to sit down and make some pretty stuff like that. You think you could link the wood wallpaper?

I put a quick vid on youtube too so you can see it in action.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNPK35NQFSs
Wow, I definitely need to sit down and make some pretty stuff like that. You think you could link the wood wallpaper?
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Can't find it man, I think I got it from http://g1wallz.com/ - or maybe in the wallpapers topic on here? I'll upload it later when I get time.

See, I cant find it in my market. Im assuming that Im having so much trouble with my market because I have an ADP Phone? I cannot purchase, Ahome or Open home (the paid versions dont show up)

i can't find it on market either- i did yesterday but it gave me download unsuccessful. since then i can't find it- maybe it has been taken off for fixing or something?

I tried backing it up with Astro but couldn't do it.
http://www.cyrket.com/package/com.sweeterhome.preview1 - Doesn't do it for you? There's a new version, I'm about to update.
EDIT: You can now long press in a tray to bring up shortcuts. Nice. Works with Anycut too, not BetterCut though
My working shortcut options:
Any Cut
Astro
Bookmark
Bookmark2
Contact
Gmail Label
Music Playlist
Note Everything

New home replacement HOME++ looks amazing

Just wanted to get you guys to checkout the new home replacement HOME++ its in the market but its one of the best i have used in awhile and its only in beta.
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Neat scroll bar at the bottom with access to everything and more space on the screen. Check out the website.
Update: Download now available from the site.
http://hpp.intuitit.mobi/home

So I installed it........now what?

use it as your home replacement its in beta stage so things can only get better

umm i like it. im still not willing to use any home besides the default just because i like the speed, but this one is very nice. seems a little better in some ways than GDE thats for sure. but GDE isnt free... this is! best part cant wait to see how this develops

this is easily the most responsive and intuitive home replacement app i've used. sweeter home preview 1 was a previous favourite, but the lack of widget support has seen it lag behind and as GDE costs money, i've never used it, even though it looks good.
the bar at the bottom is extremely useful and well thought out, as is the integrated task manager. the fact it can display widgets is great and the option to hide the notification bar is another brilliant idea. i would love to see klaxon support alongside alarm clock support, but that's just me being ridiculous.
all in all, i am looking forward to seeing this home replacement app taking off in a big way.

Looks awesome but could someone post the apk its not warez cause its free I just want to pull the clock out of it I'm on blur which is 1.5 this is complied for 1.6 and 2.0 so it does not show up in my market or if your worried about a mod just PM me with a link please and thanks

I like it, it'll be interesting to see how it develops from here and how the animated widgets turn out.
EDIT: I don't know if the dev's ever visit here but I think it would be nice if the items on the power strip were configurable. As an example I never use the google search or favorites icon, so if they could be disabled that would be awesome. Also the ability that the advanced launcher has to hide apps from the app drawer is awesome, if that could be incorporated as well?

I'm still on 1.5 so this isn't available in my market, but I switched for fun to 1.6 last night and caught this application, I like it. Someone finally hid the notification bar which I think is a nice change.
And apparently you can have semi animated widgets with this HR which is pretty cool

It's really very nice. We only need real replacement for root users.
There shoud be possibility to customize bottom icons - I don't use voice search and I'd replace the icon with something else.

searched for it in the market and realised im on android 1.5. gonna have to switch to 1.6. its worth reflashing just for getting rtid of the notification bar

I like it. I don't know if it will be my replacement home screen, but I might try it for a while.

Well i will try and get the apk or link to it for everyone but the app is in beta so we can make suggestions and make it into the must have home app becuase all the others are just missing that something but this looks promising.

this home screen replacement is the fastest, most responsive and has the best functionality out of all home screens, its almost as fast as stock home screen.
I cant wait to see what they will add or improve over the next weeks since its still beta. Its so fast I cannot think of anything that they could do to improve speed.
I just love the little scroll bar on the bottom, I love the way you can close all apps with function button on bottom.

Hi, it looks promising, i like it.

Very promising !
First of all, let me thank you a lot for this innovative home replacement app.
Thanks !
I really like the features of the bottom bar. Scroll it to see even more elements is great and I was really surprised to see that I could click on the battery, the sound indicator, the network icon, etc. Long press on some icons to access to the related settings menu is another good idea.
To hide the notifiation bar makes my home to seem bigger, really nice
Workspace in a loop is comfortable too.
I noticed two bugs (edit) :
- Sometimes (like 50% of the time), when the phone goes of its "standby" mode (menu to unlock...), the hidden notification bar left a black and empty area on top of the screen. All the home content is displaced down (of the height of the notification bar). If you press the physical home button, everything goes in the right place again. I couldn't find a regular cause to this...
- When you press the notification icon in the bar, the panel appears but there's an empty (and transparent) space on top of the screen. It's not that bad but it's graphically stange and it doesn't occur with other panels (tasks, applications,...).
.:EDIT:.
Ok, I don't know how but I managed to add the Pure Calendar widget. It didn't worked the first times... and now it's ok.
If I'm allowed, I'd like to make some suggestions :
- settings to manage the scrolling bar content (applications, statuts,...)
- BetterCut support (please)
- Add a % indicator for the battery status in the bar
- support for the font packs

I'm trying it right now and I like it, however, I have gotten 4 FC/Wait messages so far when closing out of an application (ie. GMail). Other than that, very nice home replacement. This is the first time I've ever used a home replacement too.

xyrcncp said:
I'm trying it right now and I like it, however, I have gotten 4 FC/Wait messages so far when closing out of an application (ie. GMail). Other than that, very nice home replacement. This is the first time I've ever used a home replacement too.
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I didn't get a chance to play with it last night much, but I have had the same problem this morning. I added the power, audio, music and pandora widgets and it really slowed it down. I have those same widgets running Cy 4.2.5 with no issues.
I really hope they get this right, it looks really nice.

Download app from website
App can now be downloaded from the site if you cant access market. See first post. Ive got it working fine with pure calender ill upload picture when i get home from work.

App in action
Here you go my homescreen and pure calendar running great.

Its ok.
For BETA I guess thats good.
Needs to be faster and more customizability.
Placing the power strip at top or bottom would be nice , ability to change whats in the power strip.
Do love that you can keep scrolling and get back to main screen.

(How to) change that god awful clock font

Heya,
Pretty basic tutorial on how to get rid of the god awful honeycomb clock font.
1) find a font you like, make sure it's a TTF (True Type Font).
2) make three copies of said font, and name them:
AndroidClock.ttf
AndroidClock_Solid.ttf
AndroidClock_Highlight.ttf
3) Get them on your xoom (email them to yourself, connect via USB and stick them in a folder, whatever floats your boat).
4) fire up Root Explorer (or your file browser of choice) and navigate to /system/fonts
5) rename the existing files listed above, just in case you ever want them back.
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You can see the ones in hot pink are the actual files that get read, and the blue ones are those I've renamed by adding an "x" to the end of the name.
6) drop your own files in that folder. Be aware that Android is case sensitive, so "AndroidClock.TTF", as well as "androidclock.ttf" would both fail.
7) profit
Again, this is hardly a "tutorial" and more like "hey just replace some basic files".
Get to the lock screen and you can see right away the fruits of your labor:
In order to see the lower right hand clock change, you'll need to reboot:
I'm not wild about the font I used in my demo here. It looks alright in the corner, but the lock screen looks bad. Then again, I don't really use the lock screen (No Lock app FTW), so meh.
Hit the thanks button if you love me.
<3

oops, forgot to explain why there are three versions of the font... I mean, it's pretty basic... but if you look at the original clock font, certain parts "show through" the font and are more opaque then others... the "_Solid" is only parts of the numbers, and the "_Highlight" serves a similar function. Basically, as you can see in my screens above, my entire font is opaque, since I'm using the same file in all three places.
If you want to get fancy and edit a TTF you could end up with really nice drop shadows or whatever. I'm just showing you how to do it. The creative part is in your hands

Is it really that bad? lol. I don't think it is bad but to each his own. Thanks for giving more options.

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oops, forgot to explain why there are three versions of the font... I mean, it's pretty basic... But if you look at the original clock font, certain parts "show through" the font and are more opaque then others... The "_solid" is only parts of the numbers, and the "_highlight" serves a similar function. Basically, as you can see in my screens above, my entire font is opaque, since i'm using the same file in all three places.
If you want to get fancy and edit a ttf you could end up with really nice drop shadows or whatever. I'm just showing you how to do it. The creative part is in your hands
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Regardless of how you feel about the stock font, this is a great tutorial for customizing your Xoom and making it your own.
Thanks for a great post!

Awesome!
One question I have. Since the original Honeycomb clock uses three fonts, is it possible to nix two of them and just have one font load?

arrtoodeetoo said:
Awesome!
One question I have. Since the original Honeycomb clock uses three fonts, is it possible to nix two of them and just have one font load?
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I'll go out on a limb and say "probably yes".
I say this because during my font shuffling last night, I would up with two different fonts overlapping each other. I had one Bauhaus style font named AndroidClock.ttf, and one that was a handwriting style named AndroidClock_Solid.ttf... since they were totally different, I was able to see one through the other, and it was generally a jumbled mess.
I reckon you could get rid of _Solid and _Highlight if you just want a single semi-transparent font file being loaded.
I'll also throw out that you'll need to experiment with which fonts work... some look great on the lock screen, but then have the bottom 10 pixels or so cut off while it's in the corner... other times it looks great in the corner, but has a few pixels cut off on the lock screen. Something about the native size of the font probably comes into play.
I'm still poking around with options... currently running a "busted old typewriter" font that looks kinda cool.
Will probably poke around with making custom _Solid and _Highlight pieces, and maybe trimming the font down to just the numbers to lighten the load. I work in IT at an art school, so we certainly have a zillion apps to dink around with fonts on the machines here.

ixobelle said:
oops, forgot to explain why there are three versions of the font... I mean, it's pretty basic... but if you look at the original clock font, certain parts "show through" the font and are more opaque then others... the "_Solid" is only parts of the numbers, and the "_Highlight" serves a similar function. Basically, as you can see in my screens above, my entire font is opaque, since I'm using the same file in all three places.
If you want to get fancy and edit a TTF you could end up with really nice drop shadows or whatever. I'm just showing you how to do it. The creative part is in your hands
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So if I want to design this, what you're saying is, _Solid is where I need to have my completely opaque file, _Highlight is where i put what i want my shadow file to look like?
Whats the other file do?

just grab the TTFs off the Xoom, and get them on your windows desktop. Double clicking a TTF in windows will open up a preview of what the font file is "made" of (what the font looks like, different sizes it will scale to, etc).
It's pretty apparent looking at the file. I'll grab some screen caps in a sec...
edit** here ya go, you can see which each font "does"... I'm going to mess around in FontLab Studio tonight and see what I can come up with.

Where do you get the fonts from? Can I just move them over from my windows fonts folder and they will work?

Have you figured out/found how to change clock colors yet?

Sprockethead said:
Where do you get the fonts from? Can I just move them over from my windows fonts folder and they will work?
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As long as you name them accurately and make sure they are TTF then yes.
I've just tried it with the Calibri font from Windows fonts folder and it's a vast improvement already!
One pointer (on something that threw me for a few seconds) is when you're in Root Explorer make sure you set it to Read/Write access otherwise you'll just get an error message about protected read only system files.

hmm...
I wonder what's causing the edges of some fonts to get cut... I tried changing the glyph size. I thought it might be the larger characters some fonts have but the glyph size didn't seem to make a difference.

ixobelle said:
just grab the TTFs off the Xoom, and get them on your desktop. Double clicking a TTF in windows will open up a preview of what the font file is "made" of (what the font looks like, different sizes it will scale to, etc).
It's pretty apparent looking at the file. I'll grab some screen caps in a sec...
edit** here ya go, you can see which each font "does"... I'm going to mess around in FontLab Studio tonight and see what I can come up with.
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Just curious if you ever came up with something you want to share? I use the lock screen version as my alarm clock, but it is hard to read sometimes - 5's and 3's in particular.

[Tips] Launchers for better experience

I've been using CM10 since the first build and I came to the conlusion, that a custom launcher can make a huge difference in the overall experience.
Although I write this thread mainly with CM10 in mind, it also applies to CM7.
The first launcher I've found great is FTL Launcher.
The homescreen is really fast as light, but it is a really basic experience.
I like simplicity, so I love the the possibility to hide the dockbar's background and being able set the dock icons' size to small. (Pro only)
The only thing I don't really like is that the only way to resize a widget is to set its size before adding it to the homescreen. Also, it is a Pro only feature.
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The app drawer is as simple as it looks. The scrolling is vertical. The homescreen works like charm but the app drawer I've found a bit sluggish.
The best thing about this launcher dispite its flaws is its lightness. After restart I had 60MB of free RAM, yes, on CM10. Later it dropped down to 55-40MB but it is still pretty good. It uses about 10-14MB of memory.
The second launcher is Lightning Launcher.
This one still amazes me. It is the lightest launcher I've ever seen with its 828KB yet it has tons of feature.
A few things I really like: the homescreen can be horizontal, vertical or both at the same time. You can drop icons and widgets everywhere and freely scroll on the screen. One cool thing is the icons are rotatable.
But here comes the best thing, the "Free Mode". If you turn it on, there is no grid. You can place anything anywhere.
In the app drawer you can hide icons (they go to a new tab) and even the background can be displayed. The fast experience applies to the app drawer too.
After a restart I had 55-50MB of free RAM with this launcher and it stays at that level. It uses only 9.6MB of RAM. :good:
The third one is for only those who can sacrifice performance for awesomness.
It is Next Launcher. It is made by the authors of GO Launcher.
This one is a real eye-candy. Full of fancy transition effects.
The developers say one need a phone with dual-core cpu to run it, but I'm still amazed how smooth it is on my Milestone and this launcher is still beta. I didn't find landscape mode, maybe it is not implemented yet.
But here comes the bad news, it is designed to new phones. Our CPU can handle the stuff but it uses around 22MB of RAM. I only have 45-20MB of free RAM with this launcher.
I've tested Smart Launcher. (Thanks to fellow member pt0.)
This one is quite unique. After the first start, you will be asked for you for favorite app for listening to music, calling your friends, etc., and after it is done, you will get 6 nice, holo-styled icon. These icons are shortcuts to the apps, you selected in the first step. Of course, you can add more or delete these icons.
The homescreen looks like this:
I like the option to hide these icons by default and only show them when you touch the middle of the screen.
A homescreen can't be more minimalistic than this:
The app drawer separates your app into different categories, like: games, internet, settings, etc.
This launcher eats 12-13MB of RAM.
I love the clean and minimalistic look of this launcher, but it ties the users hand. It gives some nice features, like the left-handed option, but in general, there is not enough room for customization. (At least for me, I love to customize all my stuff for my needs)
The biggest drawback is the lack of widget support. (In the paid version you can enable it, but the app says it will increase the memory need by 10-20MB and it's just not worth it, imo.)
Xperia Z Launcher
( If you'd like to try it, check out THIS thread )
This is a port of the latest Xperia Launcher from the new Xperia Z. It only works on ICS and JB, but works on those quite well.
With icons and widgets all around it stays fast and snappy. My favorite is the weather widget, it's a real eye-candy and looks great on any background.
In the app drawer sadly there is no option to hide items but they can be easily put in a folder and the option to sort them freely is pretty useful.
There is not as much option for customization as in other launchers I've mentioned here, but it works great on kabaldan's great CM9 and CM10 roms.
It consumes 15MB of memory on my phone with widgets and icons on three homescreen tabs.

Lightning Launcher is very nice, i also test it.
i use the ssLauncher and its very fast and smooth, i love the customizeing features

Great suggestions!
Personally, I am loving Lightning Launcher. My apps drawer has been customised to show only icons, and I adore the ability to hide apps in a different page of the drawer as it makes the hidden apps accessible. I have edited my homescreen such that there seems to be a vertical dock on the right side of my screen. The RAM usage is awesomely low as well.
I doubt I will be switching to other launchers soon on my Milestone.

Erovia and others, do you use these light launchers with swap enabled to free up the ram to this level?

Yes, I use 32MB swap with swappiness set to 15. (FuFu's script's default values, bigger swap can cause huge lags)

i use ssLauncher on CM7 and i have 66mb free ram in normale use... have 32mb swap, swappiness 15...
also a nice Launcher i think is the "Lagacy Launcher", i use it on CM9 on my second stone ^^ and there i have about 58mb free ram in normale use, also 32mb swap

Smart Launcher
There is another one I found - quite light and minimalistic: Smart Launcher
Maybe placing widget is little bit weird, but it depends on personal preferences.

i like the adw launcher, the new is very good and very fast.

Thanks for sharing Xperia Z Launcher! Very smooth and fast.
So far I have installed Xperia keyboard and the launcher. If I continue installing Xperia's stuff on my Milestone, who knows how my mobile ends up

I'm a noob, so thank-you in advance for your patience with me.
Do these launchers completely REPLACE the default Android home tool, or do they work ON TOP of it?
What I'm really getting at: will I have the maximum remaining memory if I don't use ANY of them?
Thanks again.

In Android nearly anything is an app, even the launchers. If you have more than one installed you will be asked which one would you like to use as default. Only the actively used one is loaded to the memory and you can change back to the previous one anytime.
If you don't use any launcher....I don't know what you will be able to do. You will not have icons and app drawer so basically you can't start any other app. If you'd like to have the lightest launcher, I recommend you the Lightning Launcher.

I'm used on milestone Nemus Launcher. Beautiful,smooth and light launcher

thank you

I am using TSF Shell on Milestone with CM9 and surprisingly its smooth as butter. Much much better then other 2D launchers.

These are really cool.
Might try some.

"LG Venice" Very useful info. Thank you. I switched from go launcher to rabbit launcher. I still like go launcher a lot for It's themes. Rabbit is using 30-40mb for me. But I have a little more to spare. It's cause I like go keyboard and locker too..And live wallpapers.
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Have you ever try using Buzz launcher?

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These are really cool.
Might try some.
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Nope...but I will. The default one is decent as well
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Absolutely nova :good:

Multi window Pop-up question

Hi,
The main thing I love the Galaxy Notes is the multi-window feature. Especially the pop-up window option.
I've had a chance to try out the Note 8. Apparently the pop-up multi-window feature give you a small pop-up window with every item in the app still being very large like it was full screen (large font, large buttons, ... the same thing Windows computers do when you make an app smaller). My old Note 3 gives you a pop-up window which actually make every aspect of the app look smaller. I hope I'm making myself clear.
Is there a way to get that Note 3 scaling effect on the pop-up multi-window feature of the Note 8?
This is what a pop-up on the Note 3 looks like:
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This is what it looks like on the Note 8:
Thanks!

I think what you're looking for is in Settings / advanced options / multiwindow.

[email protected] said:
I think what you're looking for is in Settings / advanced options / multiwindow.
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No I don't think you've understood my question.
I know the Note 8 has the option for multiwindow, but I want to know if there's an app or xposed module or whatever available to scale down the pop-up windows like it was on the Note 3.

Spir4 said:
No I don't think you've understood my question.
I know the Note 8 has the option for multiwindow, but I want to know if there's an app or xposed module or whatever available to scale down the pop-up windows like it was on the Note 3.
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Sure, that's what I mean, there's the option to rescale windows

[email protected] said:
Sure, that's what I mean, there's the option to rescale windows
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that's not what he means.
on old Samsung phones that function would shrink the window as-is, so the app would still draw as if it's fullscreen while it's actually shrunken down to a quarter of its normal size.
this would result in smaller buttons and text.
on newer Samsung phones the app is informed that the resolution has changed, allowing it to adjust.
this can cause apps to reload when resizing them, and buttons and text don't shrink.
unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to revert to the old behavior.

thedicemaster said:
that's not what he means.
on old Samsung phones that function would shrink the window as-is, so the app would still draw as if it's fullscreen while it's actually shrunken down to a quarter of its normal size.
this would result in smaller buttons and text.
on newer Samsung phones the app is informed that the resolution has changed, allowing it to adjust.
this can cause apps to reload when resizing them, and buttons and text don't shrink.
unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a way to revert to the old behavior.
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That's exactly what I mean.
Thanks for that, then I guess the Note 8 isn't for me then
Any idea if there are other phones who do that?

What app have you found that doesn't re-size? Whatsapp, for example, shrinks nicely. Messages, all shrinks.. The screenshot you posted of the Note 8 is not what my phone looks like.

sjrixon said:
What app have you found that doesn't re-size? Whatsapp, for example, shrinks nicely. Messages, all shrinks.. The screenshot you posted of the Note 8 is not what my phone looks like.
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Could you maybe post a screenshot of how it looks on your Note 8?

Here... Not the best, but you can see Google drive has resized.

I've edited your screenshot. Look at the red box.
If you maximize that app to full screen, is the stuff in the red box bigger or the same size?

Ok, correct. That bit doesn't change. The rest does, the plus button and the other text, but not the top.

sjrixon said:
Ok, correct. That bit doesn't change. The rest does, the plus button and the other text, but not the top.
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That's what I mean. And if you open up a window and scale it down to the smallest size possible, those buttons and text can really get in your way (depending on the app).
On the Note 3 those buttons actually scale down as well.

Fingers crossed for an update then! I like the feature but I can understand why it's annoying, but it's not bothering me too much.

sjrixon said:
Fingers crossed for an update then! I like the feature but I can understand why it's annoying, but it's not bothering me too much.
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I highly doubt this will get updated. It's been like that in all the latest Galaxy phones. It's Android's implementation of multi-window. It saves Samsung a lot of time and money not having to code that stuff themself.
So if the community doesn't come up with some kind of mod, this won't change.

That's a shame then. The apps I like to use in popup do work nicely, I love having the notes pop up floating so I can just quickly use it during the day.

Is there an app or mod to allow all the apps to the multi-window view? Because out of the box not all the apps are supported ...

Spir4 said:
Is there an app or mod to allow all the apps to the multi-window view? Because out of the box not all the apps are supported ...
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Don't need an app like you did with LL & MM, there's a setting in Developer Options now but like in the past, doesn't mean all unsupported apps will work/resize fine when forced.

shouren04 said:
Don't need an app like you did with LL & MM, there's a setting in Developer Options now but like in the past, doesn't mean all unsupported apps will work/resize fine when forced.
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Ah nice one didn't know about that, thanks!