USB-C Audio - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

I just ordered this phone and am waiting for it to come in, but was wondering if USB-C Audio works. I'm moving from an iPhone 7 to this and was hoping it would so that I can use it the same way with my in-car head unit as I did with just connecting the lightning cable

LemonNinja said:
I just ordered this phone and am waiting for it to come in, but was wondering if USB-C Audio works. I'm moving from an iPhone 7 to this and was hoping it would so that I can use it the same way with my in-car head unit as I did with just connecting the lightning cable
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My brother bought the Huawei P20 and I just plugged in the USB-C headphones and they work. And that very well.

Yes. I have simple USB-C CDLA earphones and they work.

Anyone using a DAC with it?

.LavS said:
Yes. I have simple USB-C CDLA earphones and they work.
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Oh awesome, any idea if that would apply to being used with an in-car head unit? Kinda like how you can plug an iPhone into a lightning cable and it'll route the audio that way I assume it would if it works with earphones

QWZR II said:
Anyone using a DAC with it?
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Yes: Moto X4 => USB-C OTG cable => USB-A cable => Musical Fidelity V-DAC => Schiit Magni 3 headphone amplifier => Sennheiser HD 700 headphones.

ttakacs said:
Yes: Moto X4 => USB-C OTG cable => USB-A cable => Musical Fidelity V-DAC => Schiit Magni 3 headphone amplifier => Sennheiser HD 700 headphones.
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Is there a certain standard I should be looking for? I tried using a Creative sound card / DAC with my old phone and it detected it as a keyboard.

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Type C to 3.5mm possible?

Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
Danchibald said:
why?! you have 3,5 mm jack
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because the sound quality from the 3.5mm is so poor
I have huawei p20 headphones also with usb-c and these are better than anything else.
spender1 said:
I have a HTC Usb to 3.5mm adaptor that I used on my HTC U ultra and it works great with the Nokia 7 plus as well.
I think the audio is louder using the adaptor and better quality.
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Want to know does it worths to buy the adaptor just for sound quality improvement?
That's a difficult question as I always find audio a very personal thing.
I have just tried my Akg K451 headphones with both the audio jack on the phone and the HTC adaptor.
The HTC 3.5 mm adaptor is significantly louder than the audio jack at full volume. I notice some distortion in the audio jack that is absent on the HTC adaptor. I think the audio from the adaptor is fuller and far more pleasing to my ear.
I have no idea how these things work, for instance does the HTC adaptor have its own DAC or is it simply a pass through device? The difference in audio level would suggest to me the presence of its own DAC so maybe that would account for the difference in audio .
Maybe it's worth buying the adaptor just to drive certain headphones better. I have a pair of status audio headphones at home that I normally use with a headphone amp to drive them I will try them on the 7 plus later to see how they sound with the audio jack and the adaptor.
Sorry I can't be more definitive.
By the way the HTC adaptor is around £10 in the UK direct from HTC.
Is the sound quality and volume really that bad or is it just some specific/batch units?
I listen to a lot of audiobooks on the go and it would be a shame if this was a dealbreaker.
No I don't find the audio particularly bad and most of the time it is loud enough.
Most of the time I use the 3.5 jack and don't have a problem but when I'm sitting listening to music and doing nothing else I prefer the audio from my HTC adapter.
The volume will depend on the impeadence of the headphones used, my AKG headphones are always much louder than my status audio ones when used in the same device.
lhkakex said:
Is that possible to use the type c to 3.5mm converter for 7 plus?
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I think it can,I used a Xiaomi's type-c headset that can be used
Quite strangely, My Mi A2's USB-C to 3.5 adapter DOES NOT WORK with my Nokia 7+

USB-C to 3.5mm Audio?

Has anyone used some type of USB-C->3.5mm adapter to route audio out with any luck? I'm looking to use my current my wired headphones and my car stereo aux port. I know old lol. My wireless BeatsX suck, they dont get loud at all. The wired Beats I got 6 years ago blows these POS of earbuds out of the water. Looking for any suggestions on an adapter and any special config required in android. Currently running rooted stock. Thanks.
UPDATE - I found a great adapter that works with my car aux port with no problems. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07BTVQ8YC/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Great quality, good price... $9.99
Currently I am using adapter from Xiaomi MiA2, works perfectly with aux in my car and wired JBL headphones. This adapter looks and feels cheap but works really well. I think every adapter should work, just buy generic one
Sent from my OnePlus 7T using Tapatalk
I'm using these https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07YFNFLRF/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I use Hidizs Sonata 2.
One of the best for quality at reasonable price.
Mr.Nice.ba said:
Currently I am using adapter from Xiaomi MiA2, works perfectly with aux in my car and wired JBL headphones. This adapter looks and feels cheap but works really well. I think every adapter should work, just buy generic one
Sent from my OnePlus 7T using Tapatalk
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Thanks!
Thanks everyone for the reply!!
Just so you know more: every adapter should work indeed.
But these adapters contain DAC (digital to analogic converter), in order to receive sound through USB and sending it through good old analogic 3.5mm. The quality of these DAC can really have a difference in sound quality. Not on standard car environment, sure, but for someone with good earphones it is worthwhile to search for a little quality for these adapters.
Spoonoid said:
Just so you know more: every adapter should work indeed.
But these adapters contain DAC (digital to analogic converter), in order to receive sound through USB and sending it through good old analogic 3.5mm. The quality of these DAC can really have a difference in sound quality. Not on standard car environment, sure, but for someone with good earphones it is worthwhile to search for a little quality for these adapters.
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The OEM adapter does not have a DAC. It doesn't need one because it's correctly wired to work with the USB audio out on the OnePlus devices. So if you use this one, you're actually using the DAC in the phone itself.
I've got the Apple one (the only apple product own!)
According to head-fi (an audiphoile forum) it's one of the best that doesn;t cost a fortune.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/usb-c-to-3-5mm-adapters-dac-lets-find-the-best.908839/
Prog_Drummer said:
I've got the Apple one (the only apple product own!)
According to head-fi (an audiphoile forum) it's one of the best that doesn;t cost a fortune.
https://www.head-fi.org/threads/usb-c-to-3-5mm-adapters-dac-lets-find-the-best.908839/
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Actually it sucks (at least for the OnePlus 7T), I got one too and I regret, the sound volume is really bad with the apple adapter because it wasn't made for Android phones at all of course.
I went to a miniso store and got one adapter there and is 5x times better than the Apple one, and cost 3x less. xd
Any splitter for simultaneous 3.5mm & charging which supports fast charging?
I've seen some videos on YouTube, but doesn't seem like supporting fast charging. We've real USB3.1, there should be something out there.
I'll receive an Audio Technica headphone this week. Could someone please tell which adapter will work best for our 7t?
niyonsv said:
I'll receive an Audio Technica headphone this week. Could someone please tell which adapter will work best for our 7t?
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OEM one.
I bought the one for the Pixel straight from Google. You'll pay for the privilege, but it works well
improvius said:
OEM one.
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Do you think the OEM adapter is the best available (at a reasonable price)? I'm thinking if getting it.
andre.vmatos said:
Any splitter for simultaneous 3.5mm & charging which supports fast charging?
I've seen some videos on YouTube, but doesn't seem like supporting fast charging. We've real USB3.1, there should be something out there.
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I tried one (from Ali Express). It is unusable while charging as I started hearing motor sound after one minute of usage. Unplug and plug that back in, again same issue in a minute. None of such adapters support fast charging as far as I know.
Will it make any difference if I go for Samsung's adapter instead of OnePlus's? (other than price
Got the cheapeast £1.99(ish) wire adapters (USB c to 3.5mm) from eBay and they work well
niyonsv said:
Will it make any difference if I go for Samsung's adapter instead of OnePlus's? (other than price
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Reviews of it in Samsung's website are not that favorable.
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/usb-c-headphone-jack-adapter-ee-uc10juwegus/
I tried the samsung adapter from my tablet S5e, and it didn't work on the 7T

Question S21U usb type c earphones

So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
oae08 said:
So I have huawei cm33 usb type c earphones but when i plug them to the S21U it will give a notification saying device not recognized. Is there anyway to make them work? They work on huawei phones and tried them on oneplus also working. Such a disappointment that a 1500$ phone can't support wired earphones with type c
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You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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Is there an amazon link of one that works
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
Maddmatt said:
Convert to wireless, you have a $1500 phone, you can donate those $20 earphones to someone whose broke and wants them
I wasn't sold on wireless buds until I got them for free with my pre-order, now I love them..
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I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
oae08 said:
Is there an amazon link of one that works
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Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
Amazon.com: Meizu MasterHIFI Audio D/A Converter Headphone Amplifier,USB C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack Adapter for Meizu 17 Pro Samsung Galaxy S20 Ultra S20+ Z Flip Note20 ,Google Pixel 4 4a OnePlus 8 : Electronics
www.amazon.com
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I got my adapter on Amazon for between $3-$5 and it works fine with my S21U (no problems from four different sets of wired headphones)... I'm thinking that this guy's headphones might have some type of device limitation.
*Edit* - Here's a link to the adapter that I have. Price has gone up (as the price has for everything in the past 4-5 months) and so now it's $10. But it does indeed work on my S21U (but funnily enough, it didn't work on my Pixel 3XL when I had originally purchased it two years back).
Check this video
oae08 said:
I got the wireless buds pro also, but that's not my point. There are still some situations i would like to plug in my wired headphones.
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Simply get the Samsung converter. It's output is via a 3.5mm jack though. I avoid using the C port for anything except charging and connecting to the PC to reduce wear. The bottom of the phone is a lousy place to have it for audio... born to die.
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
Z750SK said:
You have to use either headphones with build in D/A Converter or normal 3,5Jack headphones together with Samsung USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter EE-UC10JUWEGWW. Samsung does not have analog signal on USB-C plug. If you buy just a cheep USB-C to 3,5Jack Adapter it will not work, because of missing D/A Converter.
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I had forgotten the about the included AKG wired earbuds with the 10+. I don't think they have a builtin DAC, they might. Latter I'll pull them and try to see what output the phone is making to them.
Samsung has always been less than forthcoming with their bloody specs. Cryptic be an accurate description... try finding specs for the SSC codec
See where that takes you before you finally realize the UHQ upscaler isn't available for bluetooth except on the Note 8 I believe it was. It's misleading at the best. You need to follow multiple Samsung links to finally route that out.
blackhawk said:
This is correct. I had forgotten about them but in the box was a factory included wired earbud set with a C port connector. They worked but they sucked. The 10+ made the connection automatically; simply go to settings to route the audio via the C port.
The problem arises if you need the 3.5mm jack.
Lame Sammy.
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Keyvannn said:
Check this video
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Riyal said:
Jusr follow @Keyvannn 's video link. There no need to hassle & buy any D/A converters. It works out of the box. Just enable audio routing on developer options.
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Thanks guys, but this might work on the S20/S10 etc because they have 3.5mm audio jack ALSO. but the S21 does not have and by default the option is already disabled on S21. unfortunately i double checked again and it still doesnt work
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
abhi021 said:
Does the external Usbc DAC like Audioquest dragonfly works?
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Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
78apb said:
Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Thanks.
The only bummer with UAPP and tidal is it doesn't support offline mode. N native tidal with external dac does not not support more than 48khz.
Where as I guess tidal on apple does support mqa from native tidal app
78apb said:
Works with Note 20 Ultra, works with S21 Ultra: Meizu Hifi DAC Pro, Ztella MQA and so on. I prefer to use with UAPP + Tidal MQA with direct output/bit perfect (exclusive direct mode). But all of them works with standard android mixer/output too.
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Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
amirage said:
Is this confirmed...do this USB Dacs work with this device. I'm planning on buying the Meizu DAC since my generic Amazon USB DAC shows as unsupported USB when I plug it in...
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Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
78apb said:
Just received (a few hours ago) my E1DA DAC by Ivan
https://aliexpress.com/item/E1DA-9038D-USB-Headphone-Amp-DAC-HPA-with-3-5mm-Jack-Output/1005001593456096.html
works great with UAPP + Tidal, bit-perfect. Type C<> Type C cable is included, a bit shorty and hard, but it works.
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I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
amirage said:
I'm seeing 2 comments about UAPP ...is it necessary to have this app to play music via USB C Dacs? Also, I'm more inclined towards Ztella DAC..but am scared to blow 99$ just to find that it's not supported by the phone...has anyone used this USB DAC?
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1) ztella has a significant discount promo coupon code, just google it, many of them flying around. If IRR, 30% discount code available. $69 + shipping for MQA version, for example.
2) UAPP is necessary to get the full advantage of MQA and direct output. If you do not plan to use Tidal, you can use Neutron player instead, or Hiby Music app - or any app that support direct output to DAC (with the proper drivers built-in in that app, uapp just have a widest base of drivers and always works perfect, have frequent updates and decent interface).
Otherwise, you will listen to standard Android audio which is processed by the firmware and have nullified almost any advantage in the sound quality you paid for using DAC.

Question Redmi Note 10 Pro support USB-c audio dongle?

I brought RN10P recently. I'm using USB DAC on my PC. I plug the USB DAC with an adapter on my mobile, but it is not working. If RN10P support a USB-c audio dongle, then I will buy a new USB-c audio dongle. Does it support a USB-c dongle?
I've tried to use usb-c to 3.5mm mini jack from mi 11 lite.
Sadly, it didn't work for me either.
iRet said:
I've tried to use usb-c to 3.5mm mini jack from mi 11 lite.
Sadly, it didn't work for me either.
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then is very sad
I tried the original HTC U11 USB C noise-canceling earphones on the RMN10PRO with Pixel Experience ROM. Doesn't work, although the phone recognises some audio thing is attached to it. No sound is output.
Been using OnePlus Bullets Type-C for months, work like charm. If earphones work dongle should too

Question S21U not compatible with usb to 3.5mm dongle?

I just tried my xiaomi usb to 3.5mm dongle on my S21U and it said usb device is not recognised.
Is this normal?
Is there "hacks" for rooted s21u?
Use the Samsung one...
kan ikke lide usb mods fra software.
60% is not working
My Apple branded one works. It feels super flimsy though.
vegetaleb said:
I just tried my xiaomi usb to 3.5mm dongle on my S21U and it said usb device is not recognised.
Is this normal?
Is there "hacks" for rooted s21u?
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Does the USB-C to 3.5mm dongle have a DAC converter chip inside? Some phones don't output analog audio natively through the USB-C port and require a digital to analog conversion which are supported by some external adaptors. Maybe that model device doesn't output analog audio via the USB-C?
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Does the USB-C to 3.5mm dongle have a DAC converter chip inside? Some phones don't output analog audio natively through the USB-C port and require a digital to analog conversion which are supported by some external adaptors. Maybe that model device doesn't output analog audio via the USB-C?
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Yes, this is the correct answer to the OP's question. You need a DAC USB-C not a simple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. Such adapters retail for around $50+ the better the DAC the higher the price.
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Well I will only use my good Mpow M30 bt
It works with 3.5mm dongle
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Yes, this is the correct answer to the OP's question. You need a DAC USB-C not a simple USB-C to 3.5mm adapter. Such adapters retail for around $50+ the better the DAC the higher the price.
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Just bought a 32bit/384kHz sampling one for 8$ on Aliexpress...and before you tell me I can't hear difference between this and a 16bit one...let me tell you..I DO.
I got a 3$ DAC onw and while good for calls, I can definitely tell the difference for music.
And yes, I have the Huawei adapter that came with a Mate 20 Pro ( remember the times when power adapters,cables and 2.5mm jack converters came with phones???) and it's not recognized by the S21U.
Don't curse me for the idiotic link below..I can't shorten it from the ios app:
US $8.72 37% Off | KEYSION HIFI DAC earphone Amplifier USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack audio adapter 32bit 384kHz Digital Decoder AUX Converter
US $8.72 37% Off | KEYSION HIFI DAC earphone Amplifier USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack audio adapter 32bit 384kHz Digital Decoder AUX Converter
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you need one with a DAC
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Just bought a 32bit/384kHz sampling one for 8$ on Aliexpress...and before you tell me I can't hear difference between this and a 16bit one...let me tell you..I DO.
I got a 3$ DAC onw and while good for calls, I can definitely tell the difference for music.
And yes, I have the Huawei adapter that came with a Mate 20 Pro ( remember the times when power adapters,cables and 2.5mm jack converters came with phones???) and it's not recognized by the S21U.
Don't curse me for the idiotic link below..I can't shorten it from the ios app:
US $8.72 37% Off | KEYSION HIFI DAC earphone Amplifier USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack audio adapter 32bit 384kHz Digital Decoder AUX Converter
US $8.72 37% Off | KEYSION HIFI DAC earphone Amplifier USB Type C to 3.5mm Headphone Jack audio adapter 32bit 384kHz Digital Decoder AUX Converter
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You will surely hear the difference between a 16bit and 32bit sampling. It's very likely Huawei adapter may not have a DAC on board as my OnePlus 7Pro adapter didn't have one. My contention was not about the price - $50 for a DAC adapter. The point I was trying to make was that you needed an adapter with a DAC..the better the DAC onboard the better your music will sound. It's all personal taste...and if an $8 DAC does the job...good for you!
One day, in the future, phone technology will be so advanced that they will have DAC built in.
use the OEM from samsung ... i did buy a couple with the option to charge at the same time and they didn't work. Saddly you need a one with build-in DAC onto the Type-C to 3.5mm adapter. The cheapest one is the OEM from samsung.... sucks but thats it.

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