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Google taking control over updates

I read somewhere that starting with Android L Google is taking control over the system updates using the play store. I don't remember exactly where I read this but I would like to confirm this information with you guys.
Is that right? Does it mean that after android 5 the fragmentation will end? Or I just misunderstood the info?
I wonder if this being implemented maybe the core of the system would be on a separate partition and the OEM mods on another... Maybe?
Thank you.

Maybe for pure androud, but not for oem skins. Touchwiz, HTC Sense, etc.

Rippley05 said:
Maybe for pure androud, but not for oem skins. Touchwiz, HTC Sense, etc.
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So, in the end I understood wrong cause I thought that this would apply for every oem. ?
Sad, just sad. I'm interested on note 4 but Sammy doesn't give love to updates.

Agree they only update it once,

I suspect that the Note 4 will get the bump to Android L since the release is relatively soon. Hopefully they are working in conjunction with the carriers so that they don't have to wait until Sammy completes their image before beginning their testing. THAT's what takes so long!
Beyond the base of Samsung L, who knows?

ReggieSmith said:
I suspect that the Note 4 will get the bump to Android L since the release is relatively soon. Hopefully they are working in conjunction with the carriers so that they don't have to wait until Sammy completes their image before beginning their testing. THAT's what takes so long!
Beyond the base of Samsung L, who knows?
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Hope you're right.

I would expect update to Android L in the end of January for Note 4 - judging by how Note 10.1 was updated in the past.

I agree since the Note 3 is still sitting on 4.4.2. They need to keep up and allow the phone to stay fresh.

If you want upgrades, buy a Nexus or a Moto X.
Don't buy a Samsung/HTC and them complain about upgrades. You know what you are buying, Note is not a device which is meant for fast upgrades. It's should be quiet obvious to anyone.
If upgrades are your primary concern, get a Nexus.

Rumor has it the Note 4 and S5 will get Android L "late November or in early December" and that "Samsung may be working towards having updates ready sooner than usual."
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s5_and_note_4_might_get_android_l_by_early_december-news-9691.php

saifullah90 said:
Agree they only update it once,
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My S3 is still getting updates. I don't know what Samsung phone you owned that only received one update but that is not the case with any of their recent flagship devices.

not gonna happen , and note 4 probs will get Android L within 3 months after official release

yahyoh said:
not gonna happen , and note 4 probs will get Android L within 3 months after official release
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For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.

joelteixeira said:
For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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actually i don't really know , sony has really some good sensors but they always ruin it with ****ty software , and yeah sony is dev friendly
but i guess Note 4 will have better image quality specially in low light and with video quality because it got OIS z3 doesn't
and Z3 has the same optics and sensor as Z2 as fas as i know so probs it will have the same image quality

joelteixeira said:
For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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Well i bought a z2 and sold it after 2 weeks of use. my note 2 takes better pictures than z2 in day light. Sony fools people with the 20 something megapixel camera. It actually takes 8 mp photos. 20 mp is just a marketing strategy. Dont be fooled.

joelteixeira said:
For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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Well i bought a z2 and sold it after 2 weeks of use. my note 2 takes better pictures than z2 in day light. Sony fools people with the 20 something megapixel camera. It actually takes 8 mp photos. 20 mp is just a marketing strategy. Dont be fooled.

Is it worth it?

So I'm about to change my OPO and I have 2 candidates: OP3 or Z2 Pro.
I'm wondering if the Z2 Pro, in your opinion, will have the same development in the future.
My biggest concern is having a choice if I don't like the stock one.
Do you think CM or other ROMS (Slim, PA, etc) will come for Z2? Or should I just go for the OP3 (which i didn't yet because of high demand 5 weeks shiptime and the camera which seems better on Z2 despite having less MP)?

We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
Sent from my ZUK Z2121 using Tapatalk

Funky-Fab-4Strings said:
We have to wait and see how development will be in future. There are some people working in it but nobody knows how it gonna end. Hardware side both units are so close. But OP3 is much better developed and maintained.
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Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?

matrixino said:
Yea, I know. That's why I'm so in doubt. Owning an OPO I know all the development effort put in that phone. Unfortunately there are no other options that I know of with snap 820/6gb ram and between 5/5,5". Even the new Mi5S will be 5.7" in the plus version so that's a no go for me. Same for the LeEco and the Zenphone 3 deluxe.
So my only choices at the moment are getting an OP3 and wait 5 weeks for delivery or take the Z2 pro and hope there will be some development.
God, it's so hard to choose.
Any owner of the Z2 pro can tell me how the stock roms is working? Any bugs? It's a stable phone?
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Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)

alvintan38 said:
Used ZUI Chinese Rom (Languages only English or Chinese) for awhile before switching to Unofficial CM13. Everything was working fine in ZUI, just didn't really like the UI and everything looks IOS-like, so i changed over to CM13.
Unofficial CM13 is very stable, only noticed two bugs which aren't really major:
-Vibration is not working
-Facebook videos not playing back properly (Not sure if it's an issue on facebook's side or CM13's side)
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Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?

The phone is awesome,
I am using stock rom with Nova launcher.
Nameless rom is now being developed if that is your kind of thing, I and others have donated to get support for this so I think it should be good, just need to wait for the launch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/zuk-z2-pro/how-to/poll-whos-willing-to-donate-nameless-rom-t3456761
I suggest you also join Zukfans.eu forums for lots of info on CM / Mokee and roms and updates.
http://zukfans.eu/community/forums/zuk-z2-pro.4/

matrixino said:
Vibration for me is not so minor issue. But apart from that, I'm afraid that all the developing can stop out of nowhere (or even worse, never begin) for this phone. Where can I find the CM dev thread?
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It's a really good phone, and i'm pretty sure it has a better display over the OP3's pentile optic amoled display, +the 128gb

Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow

ermacwins said:
Mi 5s not an option? Due to be announced tomorrow
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As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"

matrixino said:
As I said in the first post Mi5S was an option until it was reveled to be 5,7"
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That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...

ermacwins said:
That's the plus version. There will also be a 5.15" version with better specs...
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The nonplus version has only 64gb rom, dunno about ram (will see tomorrow). Also xiaomi phones don't have the lte band 20 support (800mhz) used in europe (this is a must for me). Add to this the fact that you are pretty much left with MIUI (xiaomi phones don't have much developing). A xiaomi phone isn't more worth than an op3 or z2 in the end. The only thing I like is the double camera, but we have to see how it performs yet.
Also I already own 2 xiaomis and they have some annoying bugs, so I'm more inclined toward something else.
But we will see once they are announced tomorrow.

LineageOS and 60fps video

Greetings,
I am looking for a new device. Nokia 7 plus is among the devices shortlisted. Found that there's no LineageOS for it yet (surprising considering an Android one device). Is there any possibility of this phone ever getting it?
Also, surprisingly enough, 7 plus doesn't have 60fps video by default (Snapdragon 660!). Anyone found a workaround?
Kind regards

Windoors said:
Greetings,
I am looking for a new device. Nokia 7 plus is among the devices shortlisted. Found that there's no LineageOS for it yet (surprising considering an Android one device). Is there any possibility of this phone ever getting it?
Also, surprisingly enough, 7 plus doesn't have 60fps video by default (Snapdragon 660!). Anyone found a workaround?
Kind regards
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Lineage OS will be uploaded today i believe by a dev, but you need to pay for unlocking the bootloader keep that in mind.

@Kcetin20 u mean officially ?

ban.codrut said:
@Kcetin20 u mean officially ?
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nope in our dream, untill we get official bootloader unlock

As long as it's stable (no bugs) it's good.

Any Gcam / good Camera for Pixel Experience Rom?

Hello guys, is there any working GCam or other good camera at least close to stock to use with pixel experience rom ?
Thank you so much for you help

snap camera is good

Hamzakovsky said:
Hello guys, is there any working GCam or other good camera at least close to stock to use with pixel experience rom ?
Thank you so much for you help
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Gcams for the snapdragon 845 should work.
Like for oneplus 6 or pixel 3

MartinX3 said:
Gcams for the snapdragon 845 should work.
Like for oneplus 6 or pixel 3
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Unfortunately it doesn't, I've tried almost 10 releases and they all keep crashing or with very poor quality

Hamzakovsky said:
Unfortunately it doesn't, I've tried almost 10 releases and they all keep crashing or with very poor quality
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Oh , with the newest Pixel Experience update?
I heard an update to fix the crash got commited and saw a good gcam photo from angelo/kholk the maintainer.

MartinX3 said:
Oh , with the newest Pixel Experience update?
I heard an update to fix the crash got commited and saw a good gcam photo from angelo/kholk the maintainer.
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You've heard? ? We need some links bro lol

Hamzakovsky said:
You've heard? We need some links bro lol
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Ah, woops, my fault.
I revisited the internal development talk and the fix (a missing qcom library) should be added with OEMv3.

MartinX3 said:
Ah, woops, my fault.
I revisited the internal development talk and the fix (a missing qcom library) should be added with OEMv3.
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Sony still insist to make development like a nightmare for users ??

Hamzakovsky said:
Sony still insist to make development like a nightmare for users [emoji26][emoji26]
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Why do you blame the developer while getting bugs on a alpha version?
OEMv2c is still an alpha version
And at the moment are the xz2/c/3 the only real usable devices in the new 4.14
(Xperia 1/5 too somehow)
It just takes time, developers are humans with a 8 hours work day or less if they do it as an volunteer work for free for you the enduser in their spare time after a full day of hard work to pay their families and the bug is already known
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
By the way
The Sony open devices project by Sony makes development and kernel upgrades much easier.
But more volunteers working for free for you === faster progress

MartinX3 said:
Why do you blame the developer while getting bugs on a alpha version?
OEMv2c is still an alpha version
And at the moment are the xz2/c/3 the only real usable devices in the new 4.14
(Xperia 1/5 too somehow)
It just takes time, developers are humans with a 8 hours work day or less if they do it as an volunteer work for free for you the enduser in their spare time after a full day of hard work to pay their families and the bug is already known
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
By the way
The Sony open devices project by Sony makes development and kernel upgrades much easier.
But more volunteers working for free for you === faster progress
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I didn't blame developers btw, I'm talking about Sony! You are always rushed in your answers and you never give some clear info... Like when someone asks "how to" you just give some absurd words that makes no help (not all users are good at developing FYI) SO PLEASE I'M ASKING YOU TO STOP ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND

GreeDWaR said:
snap camera is good
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I confirm that! Thanks

Hamzakovsky said:
I didn't blame developers btw, I'm talking about Sony! You are always rushed in your answers and you never give some clear info... Like when someone asks "how to" you just give some absurd words that makes no help (not all users are good at developing FYI) SO PLEASE I'M ASKING YOU TO STOP ANSWERING MY QUESTIONS IF YOU DON'T MIND
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I assumed since you use PE you know that you flash the OEM.IMG file
I don't know your knowledge level, so just ask me until you understand it
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Saying that the next OEM version update should fix the gcam crash isn't clear enough?
Then ask me another question
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I assumed since you use PE you know that you flash the OEM.IMG file
I don't know your knowledge level, so just ask me until you understand it
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Saying that the next OEM version update should fix the gcam crash isn't clear enough?
Then ask me another question
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You still didn't get my point... Just stop assuming and rushing to give non sense answers, get your mind organized a bit before posting replies and read carefully the questions ... would you? All your answers in this forum seem like they are questions themselves and need to be solved lol.

Question One UI

There will be any one UI rom for redmi note 10 pro/max ?

For what?

It can be port but I don't think developers interested in this and it's need a lot of work

Just buy Samsung phone if you like one UI.

PITERQ said:
Just buy Samsung phone if you like one UI.
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So everyone who likes pixel experience should buy a pixel phone ?

chazy chaz said:
So everyone who likes pixel experience should buy a pixel phone ?
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I mean there is no chance for the one ui port (at least a stable one), so it's easier to choose something from the Samsung offer - for example A52/A72.

U can never know .. this community has a lot of brilliant devs .. and RN10P is already getting most of the best custom roms .. if we manage to get OOS or OneUI that would be a magnificent

chazy chaz said:
U can never know .. this community has a lot of brilliant devs .. and RN10P is already getting most of the best custom roms .. if we manage to get OOS or OneUI that would be a magnificent
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Try CherishOS by @jpg3927 , you might be pleasantly surprised; like I was.

Custom rom for redmi note 10 pro
majakl said:
For what?
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One UI is very light and feature rich UI plus there can be chances that we can get Samsung's dialer with auto call recording

Murtazaraza said:
Custom rom for redmi note 10 pro
One UI is very light and feature rich UI plus there can be chances that we can get Samsung's dialer with auto call recording
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At the risk of repeating myself, try CherishOS by @jpg3927 , you might be pleasantly surprised; like I was. All the features you need exist in it. And it's cutting edge! With May Android security patch.