I read somewhere that starting with Android L Google is taking control over the system updates using the play store. I don't remember exactly where I read this but I would like to confirm this information with you guys.
Is that right? Does it mean that after android 5 the fragmentation will end? Or I just misunderstood the info?
I wonder if this being implemented maybe the core of the system would be on a separate partition and the OEM mods on another... Maybe?
Thank you.
Maybe for pure androud, but not for oem skins. Touchwiz, HTC Sense, etc.
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Maybe for pure androud, but not for oem skins. Touchwiz, HTC Sense, etc.
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So, in the end I understood wrong cause I thought that this would apply for every oem. ?
Sad, just sad. I'm interested on note 4 but Sammy doesn't give love to updates.
Agree they only update it once,
I suspect that the Note 4 will get the bump to Android L since the release is relatively soon. Hopefully they are working in conjunction with the carriers so that they don't have to wait until Sammy completes their image before beginning their testing. THAT's what takes so long!
Beyond the base of Samsung L, who knows?
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I suspect that the Note 4 will get the bump to Android L since the release is relatively soon. Hopefully they are working in conjunction with the carriers so that they don't have to wait until Sammy completes their image before beginning their testing. THAT's what takes so long!
Beyond the base of Samsung L, who knows?
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Hope you're right.
I would expect update to Android L in the end of January for Note 4 - judging by how Note 10.1 was updated in the past.
I agree since the Note 3 is still sitting on 4.4.2. They need to keep up and allow the phone to stay fresh.
If you want upgrades, buy a Nexus or a Moto X.
Don't buy a Samsung/HTC and them complain about upgrades. You know what you are buying, Note is not a device which is meant for fast upgrades. It's should be quiet obvious to anyone.
If upgrades are your primary concern, get a Nexus.
Rumor has it the Note 4 and S5 will get Android L "late November or in early December" and that "Samsung may be working towards having updates ready sooner than usual."
http://www.gsmarena.com/galaxy_s5_and_note_4_might_get_android_l_by_early_december-news-9691.php
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My S3 is still getting updates. I don't know what Samsung phone you owned that only received one update but that is not the case with any of their recent flagship devices.
not gonna happen , and note 4 probs will get Android L within 3 months after official release
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not gonna happen , and note 4 probs will get Android L within 3 months after official release
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For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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actually i don't really know , sony has really some good sensors but they always ruin it with ****ty software , and yeah sony is dev friendly
but i guess Note 4 will have better image quality specially in low light and with video quality because it got OIS z3 doesn't
and Z3 has the same optics and sensor as Z2 as fas as i know so probs it will have the same image quality
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For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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Well i bought a z2 and sold it after 2 weeks of use. my note 2 takes better pictures than z2 in day light. Sony fools people with the 20 something megapixel camera. It actually takes 8 mp photos. 20 mp is just a marketing strategy. Dont be fooled.
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For those looking for a good camera and stock experience, do you think I'll be in good hands with a Xperia Z3. AFAIK sony is usually developer friendly and maybe we get a official CM release. Well, just speaking my mind... I dont know how stable Z2 is ATM.
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Well i bought a z2 and sold it after 2 weeks of use. my note 2 takes better pictures than z2 in day light. Sony fools people with the 20 something megapixel camera. It actually takes 8 mp photos. 20 mp is just a marketing strategy. Dont be fooled.
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Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that
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Is that possible to have android L on our xperia Z Really look forward to that
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yes,wait the release for the developer & they will build it.
But it is still a developer preview
L's only two versions away. I'm sure we'll get a port or a CM rom sooner or later.
If any developer that I know of from Xperia Z, it will definitely be @pabx first to release Android L.
He was the first to bring KitKat over to Z in just a matter of days. In fact, it was not with some unusable build either. A full usable rom for daily driver.
Android L = Awesome Xperia Z !
Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
Cheers...
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Yes..!!!:good::good:
I totally agree with Android L being ported to Xperia Z....!!! It's much better than any software till now...
Here are the reasons;
Key Features:
Improved Notifications
Project Volta: Improved Battery Life (Needed for Xperia Z, due to battery drain issue in Kit Kat)
Google Fit...Competition for Apple's Healthkit
Better Web Integration
Runs on ART extension , (support for 64bit systems), (Dalvik is being ditched).
Since RAM usage will be less, and apps usage and loading time will be faster...
So lets wait for CM, PAC, Carbon...or some other developer till then...
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But the image still not online
Check the videos in Google I/O.. They gave a brief peek on Android L...
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http://youtu.be/y9ue7TNpxS0 Looks so nice
Not impressed with it so far.
Auto Rotate toggle? Already on my stock 4.4.2
Adaptive Brightness? Already in all versions of Android.
Those are just two things I picked up on....
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and a built in flash player
Xperia™ Z (C6602) with tapatalk
I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..
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I don't think that Sony will release an official build for the Z..
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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Same here. Going to unlock my bootloader if the Rom has been released.
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Screw Sony then, we would get then unofficial ported ROM or sth. 'going to unlock my BL due this. I'd like to get this ROM
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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KitKat's battery drain was not Sony's fault however. It was Google and Google Services, as with a previous version I cannot recall. Those kind of things are out of their reach since it varies from phone to phone with its version. I do agree however that there are some "kinks" that need to be remedied. I cannot understand why they refuse to unify most builds so they run similar applications. Like for example the stock KitKat apps (like Messaging and Settings) on my Z are totally different from Z2's stock apps running KitKat
Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.
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Selling my phone right away if they announce the Z won't be updated to Android L.
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Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.
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I don't expect Sony to update Xperia Z to 5.0 - we will probably hear "you already received 3 updates, that's it folks".
IMO it shouldn't be about how many versions you receive - it should be about a timeframe. If your phone doesn't receive updates after 1,5 years, then maybe you should stop making new phones every 6 months if you can't manage to update them - and look at other companies like HTC, Samsung ( yes... ) or perhaps Apple who offers iOS8 to a 4,5 years old iPhone 4S.
Does my post sound like I'm angry with Sony ? Good, because I am...
KitKat was a disappointment. Been waiting almost a year and received nearly no new features apart from UI redesign which doesn't really matter to me anyway and tons of bugs, battery woes etc. To be honest - every single release had some kind of problems, especially with battery life...
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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score
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Maybe it is all on purpose. Bugs, bugs and bugs but redesign UI and everybody is happy at the moment they upgrade it's firmware. And than, bitterness strike.
Maybe Sony wanna make XZ more and more buggy so it's users can look forward to Z2 or Z3, because XZ is still very capable of doing practically anything and is still strong and better phone than most 2014 mid-rangers and all Xperia non-Z models.
Yesterday I compared for couple of hours Z2 on 4.4.2 with my XZ 4.4.2. UI Smoothness is basically the same. WiFi/3G surfing the same, talk quality the same. Photo and 1080 video quality has very small improvement on XZ2. OK, sound quality, battery and screen are way better, but for common users like me, transition to XZ2 is freaking waste of money, except for battery duration. I switched in May 2013 form HTC Desire to Xperia Z and that cost me 100 EUR. Now, July 2014, transition form XZ to XZ2 would cost me 250 EUR. For what? Better AnTuTu benchmark score
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Then you should get the g3 ? I think the g3 is a better upgrade than the z2 . Different ui , higher res , bigger screen but smaller size than the z2 . Getting a z2 or z1 for upgrade is like getting a slightly bigger screen size with more power .
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Do it! you think that somebody of us will beg you to stop? or sony CEO will appear and give you android 100?
Just stop complaining kid, if you have enought money for an other phone just to have a better toy to play with, feel free and buy it, we don't care. And in 6 months you will complain again for a new update that roll out, and with a new Brand that won't provide it to you.
I bought xperia Z because I was fine on how it was, it had everything i needed and I liked it. Why you bought it if you have to cry? Or yo mean it was good until something new came out? that is so illogical. stop looking to the neighbour's grass and just be happy whit what you have.
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... how was that a complaint? I am simply stating I am selling it if they announce the exclusion in their update roadmap. How you come up with all these impressions of me being a whiner is beyond me. I do have money to buy any phone really but I don't mind keeping the Z a little longer.
Thank you Samsung for letting down the 910U. There are absolutely no excuses to take so much time to update all variants. Too many variants and inability to maintain them... Never expected releases to come as fast as on my Nexus 5, but that bad is really a shame (Other manufacturers have already updated their flagships)
With all these different models of the same phone, Samsung has managed to create an extra fragmentation level of the already fragmented Android. Amazing.
And I don't want to hear that is maybe because we'll get a newer version than 5.0.1 or an improved Touchwiz (Like was speculated as an explanation for the very slow initial rollout of Lollipop). Most likely well get finally 5.0.1 when everybody will be on 5.1
I came back to Samsung after a few years (My last one was a Tab 7.7). Definitely amazing hardware each band every time. The software side (incl speed of new releases) is still a shame.
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Have to agree on the hardware front. Amazing, sleek and sexy. For the OS part though it's definitely a let down. I wish they would just apk all of their bloat and just let us use it on any non tw OS. No hidden or private api baked into a slow ui. My sister is running a S4 and laughing because she has LP and I can't even get it. Hell it's not even announced for my version.
i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
I wonder if they limit variations because there's not any more letter in alphabet or what?
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i speak for 910G users and its a pathetic logic for 910G as well..... 910F got the update so why dint the 910G......it will be good if samsung can get their **** together and concentrate on a single processor and give its users what they pay for
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pretty crap when the F and G use the same hardware but different bootloader and modems - would have taken very little time to get a global release for the two models at the same time.
Calm Down untill the Final Release
SM-N910C user here, I feel your pain But you guys should not forget that the Lollipop releases for Note 4 are not final , are more like test builds thats why it is not availble outside of the world except Poland. In essence , more than 90% of Note 4 users didn't receive Lollipop. I have installed Lollipop and I am pretty confident that it needs some tuning and fixing before the worlwide roll out so hopefuly every use gets straight the Final build in some weeks time and not a test build like some lucky N910C-F users!
The Real let down would be in the case where the Final Worlwide release is ready for some variants and not for everyone or the others who didn't receive the final update and receive a test build like now Here there is no space for excuses
Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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Thank you too rj3005. Now you (unwittingly) bring a bit more to this thread. I wasn't even complaining yet, but indeed, contrary to the Nexus Series (I own a 5 and a 7) the Samsung version of Lollipop is indeed not so much of a change compared with KitKat. Less material design, still lags here and there (I honestly don't know since I unfortunately still do not have an update for my 910U............). Samsung has amazing hardware (And that s why I picked the Note 4) but Software wise.... Honestly....
Anyway let s hope the S6 brings finally a decent Touchwiz we may all benefit from..
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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Thank you for alcibiade for another whiner thread. For God sake get a life, the note's 4 lollipop update isn't that earth shocking. In general KitKat works as good (or some respect even better) as Lollipop.
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Its not about getting life or what, but put urself on our shoes. What would u feel if everyone's got the lollipop amd u were left alone not having it? Good or bad is another matter. Being up to date is what xda is all about. At least that is why i joined xda.
I am totally with you, i know samsung for long time, and i know that they will not release the 5.1 for the 910u version because we didn't get the 5.0.1. in fact, we will get the 5.0.1 when the C gets close to the 5.1 . i am not mad or saying this because i hate samsung, i replied to tell you again Don't give your hopes on samsung to give you something that you want. I can tell from now that we can get the 5.0.1 version in 15 days from now, but without any change of the C version and maybe more buggy than it .
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We can only hope to receive the so called "revamped" touchwiz from the S6 on the note 4
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I do hope indeed...
Again the hardware on Note 4 is amazing (That's why I bought it over the Nexus 6). Hopefully Samsung will get its act together and deliver decent software (from an AOSP perspective) KINF OF on time....
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I agree i purchased the 910U over the 910G in australia and now i wished i got the C. Im sure when lollipop comes finally for the U porting C roms will become the norm and we'll keep up to date. God knows as well as us that samsung wont keep up..
I live in HK where U is the default model.
Weeks are passing... Still no sign. This is really not serious for a phone that's less than 6 months old.
Yep its a big fkn joke.
You should try being in Canada with a W8 model
The W8 model of of the note series is always the last to be updated let's just hope we get a fixed version.
Phone runs fine without Lollipop. If you read about how many are switching back from Lollipop, not in any hurry to get it myself.
Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
And why oh why do people keep contributing to what they call whiney threads?! And whining themselves about them! Nothing wrong with whining every now and again, should people on forums all be constantly happy? Is it written in the rules?
Please of please skip the thread of it upsets you so much! Ffs!
I too am upset and want to wine, getting really impatient
I have the 910U From new Zealand on Spark network...
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Yes I switched back. You're missing nothing yet people. To me it really felt like a beta, battery drain, needs refining. I can deffo see the potential, its noticeably snappier when it's working right
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To be fair the issues encountered with the first versions of Lollipop should be put to the credit of Google. On that they screwed up massively and even the Nexus line suffers from it (I also have a Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7). It's hard to blame the phone makers on this.
Nevertheless time passes by, most of flagships have been updated to Lollipop and... quite a number of Note 4 haven't. Samsung weakness on the software side is blatant (while they indeed design excellent hardware, the Note 4 and the S 6 are very good example of this)
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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
Would be good if the 910G snapdragon variant actually got lollipop....
**** Samsung, getting iPhone 6 soon if LP is not released anytime soon!
Mate that's a crazy thing to say... I would still prefer 4.4 then own another iphone
Agreed, at least some info would be nice. I'm running lollipop on a few of my other devices now, the note 4 is lagging behind
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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The amnoyance in regards to this is that both the Note 3, S4 & S5 seem to have had a wider rollout so far than the Note 4. Likewise Samsung's PR were promising a rollout to Android within a couple of months of its final release when the Note 4 was released and thar seemingly has been abandoned too. It just leads to user apathy and distrust.
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I'm over Samsung ... I never even hardly use the damn pen anymore anyway. I promise myself I will not be back again. This BS with a million models and other crud... NO GOOD SAMSUNG!
oh stop bull****ting .
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Am I the only person who wish Samsung would keep us updated. Even a statement like.... we have found a number of issues with lollipop which will take some time to resolve. We want you to have a great experience so we will ensure that when we send out the update you will enjoy the benefits. Please be patient.. We hope to send out the updates by end of April.
It would save us all checking for updates. Plus make Samsung a more human company
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Hoping for honesty from the PR arm of an international chaebol is like nicely asking a stone if it wouldn't mind bleeding a bit. It also assumes that they are even remotely interested in providing these kinds of updates, that they communicate with the developers, and that they have that information in the first place. They've done their job already - you've bought a Note 4, so why should they care? Besides which, if they've already stated a timeframe previously, and been unable to meet it, they're going to be very cautious about announcing anything else apart from "it'll be ready when it's ready", and even that is unlikely compared to simply remaining silent.
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OS Updates for mobiles are so much overrated.
What features did lollipop bring that are important to you?
I could even use gingerbread today and it would work for mostly anything that I'd want to do.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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This is totally true....why get a device like the Note 4 if you are ok with Gingerbread...I don't understand people who get such a good phone and don;t know how to eve use it...but rather use it for calls and messages only...
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Sweet. I'll just enjoy that sexy Material OS on gingerbread. Ah nope. Can't do that. What about speed and efficiency? I can enjoy that. Ah nope. Not on GB either. Hmmm. What about those awesome notification cards. Ah nope. Still no luck. Thats ok I'll just make an app to enjoy using Level 21 API. Nope can't do that either. So I can send texts and make phone calls. Awesome. Same thing I could do on my Motorola i560. There are a ton of things to enjoy with Lollipop. I do understand where you are coming from. Lollipop is innovative, fast, beautiful and efficient. Those are things that can be very scary to someone so conservative.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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Oh common, Android is mostly about apps and they would run on gingerbread aswell.
I'm coming from a nexus 5 btw.
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I sincerely hope this post is a joke; if I merely cared about apps I'd own an iPhone.
I bought a 800€ smartphone i espect to have the lastest and best software. Thats why so many people is going from android to iOS. If you have a iPhonne 6+ you have the lastest iOS. Next time a change smartphonne i am going to think twice before have Android or iOS, and for me Nexus line are no option, ugly and overrated. For me Samsung or HTC or LG (this two allready have 5.0 Lolipop)
I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I updated my Moto X 2014 to lollipop and it made it slower, worse battery and it stuttered more than it did on kitkat. Also with all the problems people were talking about on most of the phones that got the update(not just Samsung) why are people in such a rush? Google really messed up with lollipop.
I would like to get the S6 TW though.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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why i want lollipop and Samsung to treat us better
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
magichoward said:
based on google claims ...better security. no lags, the apps like quickpik can delete photos and much more usability...hoping for better camera.plus many other things on lollipop
every year I think of going back to the Iphone ,,,but now the iphone 6 plus is a real competitor ....but this upgrade policy and silence from Samsung is really annoying .
later this year if the iphone 7 competes with the note 6 I will have to consider changing to
iphone ....upgrades are fast on iphone ,works works worldwide every language preinstalled Samsung doesnt) both have good battery the iphone 6 plus better camera in most cases but marginal .the fingerprint
is a joke on note 4 .
im just ranting cause got another error re my names have crashed again. ...grrr
Finally android sumsung after all these years cant offer a full back up and restore .
this rant is after watching a friend of mine just buying a new Iphone 6 and everything but evething restores in one go ...awesom ...Im not rooted so it takes a whole day for me to restor everthing ... Im restarting my phone daily these days so bad day for me sorry about the ranting
come on samsung TREAT EXISTING CUSTOMERS better.
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iPhone are great for fluidity and fast updates, but they lack the customization and freedom that android offers even with Jailbreak.
Also , I don't know if you need glasses or not, but the note 4 camera beats the iPhone any day in good light situations...both in photos and videos.
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I've not had any problems with 5.0 on my Moto X 2014
Performs like a champ. No FC's and no stutters or 'contacts stopped working' bugs.
That being said, It would be nice to see 5.1 sometime soon on both it and the Note 4. Had to rollback my Note 4 to KitKat as performance was so bad on lollipop for me.
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Yeah I didn't have major problems but the battery is worse and it just wasn't as smooth and quick as it was on kitkat. I didn't have the app redraws that others had but I put that down to a full wipe before and after the update.
Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Mainly a rant thread, but seriously LG G4 already getting AD6.0 and now i've read HTC M9 getting 6.0 and A9 getting 6.0.1.
Sammy sold the highest android phones number, and yet they so slow in providing updates, they start testing beta in next month only.
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Because Samsung has touchwiz and has to make it perfectly compatible. Takes a while.
That's not an excuse, HTC M9 getting 6.0 tommorow and A9 getting 6.0.1, G4 already getting 6 and G3 started to get it today... Samsung is soo late only now they releasing beta 6.0 to certain GS6 devices.
Yes, it IS an excuse. It is just one that you don't like.
Samsung is updating at the speed they want. I would fully bet that they were intentionally waiting for 6.0.1, as 6.0.0 likely had some issues they wanted to see fixed.
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I hope it's true and they learnt from their mistakes, i remember a lot of GS5 users complained about lollipop more than usually, same with 4.3 that was one of the worst updates sammy ever made.
For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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For me, I would rather get a solid update than the fastest update.
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That's i hope, the reason for beta testing and delays.
Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
You are 100% guessing, not 100% sure... Lol
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Samsung policies are stupid..They wont release Marshmallow until S7 is out.. ultimately this would be one of the selling point for S7.
I am 100% sure they wont release MM until March16
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If that would happen, that could backfire so fast specially since 6.0 was released to all other devices. heck G3 and GS5 released same year, yet G3 already getting android 6.0, idk if galaxy s5 will get it, and if it will probably Q2 2016... Samsung support is lacking and need to be changed, but since they beta testing android 6.0 now, i hope they won't use it as an excuse to "delay" it to until GS7 launches.
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
They can split the updates to two parts, the main Android 6.0 base update without updating the minor stuff like s health, themes, and just make S Pen compatible, then after short while release a package of updates android 6.0 updates, idk if it possible, but sure as hell Samsung could be faster, again if they put 6.0.1 with as little to no bugs, then i prefer it over rushed release.
why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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why don't Samsung let it customer beta test the new marshmallow update? iphone lets its customer beta test before full release...
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They are for the s6 and edge+(UK and south korea). We'll see it in due time.
They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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They must extend it to Note 5 at least.
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maybe we might get it after few weeks.
umbrokhan said:
maybe we might get it after few weeks.
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It's not going to happen
dr.ketan said:
It's been well known fact Samsung always behind to provide latest update then why one should buy Samsung devices?
Google test everything for their devices before os release so they don't have to wait that's very clear and not difficult to understand their devices always will remain first to get os update. Comparison with LG or HTC have no sense as well as as far as no one have hardware differences as compare to Samsung. Do they have to think about spen? Samsung theme? S health? NO
These are the features needs to modify almost everything to provide support with new os and can only be understand if you have developed something.
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I think this time a little bit different. They seem want to improve their Rom quality, do it more carefully. Years ago I realize that Sam S series always be first to update because they are flagship and almost no special features like Note series. Absolutely I agree with you about Sam Roms are very different to HTC, LG.
But as Note 4 users, I was very angry about their update: no theme, no new features, no change on S Pen function, quite bad battery life.
Anyway, Samsung as most profitable Android OEM, have to change some points, do something better about update and Rom. We pay more, they do more better!
If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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If you want fast updates get a nexus and keep it moving...
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I want 5.5-5.7" phone. Nexus 6 and 6P fit need but their battery life not so good. Note 5 just enough for me fullday usage only after extreme optimized/tweaked.
I think the specs for the OnePlus Three for the price are AMAZING and unbelievable, it's almost $150 less than the Nexus 6P, with 2016 flagship hardware, and the leaked pictures show it to be a very high quality crafted device. The new Three looks like a larger HTC 10, which is fine by me, as the 10 is a great smartphone.
But...
My biggest gripes with OPO are the slow Android updates. I recall Lollipop taking for god damn ever to officially make it out for the original One, like 6 months, or you could have installed the alpha CM11 at the time, which was pretty buggy until the bugs were worked out, obviously, but the official OnePlus One Lollipop OS update took a very long time.
This OnePlus Three will be lucky to see Android N within 90 days after the Nexus phones get it first in October, or you can install the alpha CM14 sooner on it, and live through all the kinks and bugs, that will have, while waiting for OPO to release N.
I thought one of the big features on these OPO phones being AOSP based, would have been super fast Android updates, not Nexus fast updates obviously, but at least faster than the skinned versions of Android like HTC, LG, Samsung, etc... but that hasn't been the case. I thought OnePlus would have the latest version of Android on them within like 30 days or so after Nexus phones, in reality they are worse than Samsung.
Bottom line; Great flagship hardware for a budget price. Beautiful design.
But...software is really amateur for an official professional phone release. I'd rather Cyanogen be back on board creating a stable pro CM13S for this phone. Oxygen OS still seems like some weekend development project.
OnePlus came late with their Android6.0 update for the OP2, so I share your concerns.
But the custom development for the OP3 will be great, so many ROMS there before the official updates.
And many other brands are also slow with updates, or even slower. (not an excuse for OnePlus )
I will go for the OP3 because:
to go for a device with guaranteed faster updates you limit your device choice, you will most likely pay a lot more, and the specs won't be much better, and the XDA development will most likely be worse.
So (expecting) slow updates is a legit disadvantage, but it doesn't win from the advantages in my opinion.
Good points thanks
Now let's see some real hands on reviews. How good is the AMOLED screen being in 1080p ? Is the build quality as high and great like HTC 10 ? Speaker sounds ? Feel in hand ?
I know hardware wise it's gonna be a champ.
I guess you did not see the news?
http://www.xda-developers.com/oxygenos-open-sourced-ahead-of-oneplus-3-launch/
Will that news get us Android N much faster ? I wanna see the OnePlus Three get Android N like 30 days after the Nexus phones, then i impressed.
I just got the one plus two yesterday, found out about the 3 two days after I ordered, ugh. No worries though, I believe it will be released by the 14th and that is well within my return period!
I can't even explain how cool just the box it comes in is! This is quality I would pay s7 prices for, hands down. I keep looking around for cops every time I pick up the phone, feels like I stole it! But seriously, the OTA's don't bother me a bit, they'll get here when they get here! I feel like the development here on xda will be enough to tide someone over until we get a proper image. I feel like this OP3 is going to be the banger for one plus all together.
The 1080p question the OP had, I honestly feel like that's just a marketing ploy by the big boys, can the naked eye really tell on a phone, even this size? For me personally, I don't notice anything! I honestly think you'll be able to look past both of those once you feel the box...lol!
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while we all are at xda, i don't really care about update from OP. You bet - the very first custom ROM will be available in weeks from June 14th and android N will be on OP# in days.
As someone who has paid top dollar for Samsung flagship phones, all I can say is that updates are slow here, too - maybe even slower than Oneplus .
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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We don't but as oos is open source and i think oneplus won't make the mistake twice, as the community will have a look, how they handle stuff
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Well, OOS isn't so "open-source". They forked CAF code and they put it on github.
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how do we know there won't be development issues with the OP3 like there were with the OP2?
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Maybe this forums.oneplus.net/threads/rom-6-0-1-unofficial-cyanogenmod-13.450156 answers your question.
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obviously it will be slower getting ota's compared to nexus devices. but the op3 should have a good dev community so i wouldn't worry.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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I don't care about the development community for any device. I judge a phone by the speed of its official updates.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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It will get N just not as fast as nexus but probably faster than samsung or lg.
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I wouldn't count on that. The oneplus team is very small and it took them longer than lg and Samsung to release marshmallow.
I'm considering replacing my Nexus 5 with OP3. Do they provide monthly security updates like google?
mykimouse said:
There's a Telegram Super Group where Devs/Modders/Testers/Users can join and expect quick replies and updates.
Lets join it https://telegram.me/OnePlus_3
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Seriously considering getting one of these, just trying to justify the amount of money I need to spend to obtain one, at that point I will join the group.
First OTA update for the OP3
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First OTA update for the OP3
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Can you send me the boot.img from your device? I will remove verity checks and I am not sure if encryption is on by default, I can also remove that.