What ATT bands are missing? - Moto Z3 Play Questions & Answers

According to Z3 Play page it has bands
LTE:††† B1 (2100) B2 (1900) B3 (1800) B4 (1700/2100) B5 (850) B7 (2600) B8 (900) B12 (lower700 abc) B13 (upper700) B14 (700 PS) B17 (lower700 bc) B18 (Japan low850) B19 (Japan hi850) B20 (800 DD) B25 (1900+) B26 (850+) B28 (700 APT) B29 (lower700 de) B30 (2300) B38 (TD2600) B40 (TD2300) B41 (TD2500) B41 HPUE (TD2500) B66 (AWS3+4) B71 (600 US)
UMTS:††† B1 (2100) B2 (1900) B4 (1700/2100) B5 (850) B8 (900)
CDMA:††† BC0 (850) BC1 (1900) BC10 (850+)
GSM:††† B2 (1900) B3 (1800) B5 (850) B8 (900)
It appears that this is all the necessary bands. According to ATT you need:
**MAIN BAND
12 –700 MHz Lower B/C/A. This is a superset of band 17, so band 17 is not required if band 12 is available in the phone.
**ADDITIONAL CAPACITY
2 – 1900 MHz PCS, provides bandwidth in many markets; 25 is a superset of band 2 but 25 is not required for some reason
4 – 1700/2100 MHz AWS, provides bandwidth in many markets
5 – 850 MHz CLR, the main band for areas lacking 700 lower B and/or C blocks
29 – 700 MHz Lower D/E – supplemental downlink bandwidth only; implemented in key markets
30 – 2300 MHz WCS, provides additional bandwidth in many markets
So it appears it has all of these,
HOWEVER, according to Motorola's carrier compatibility page it does not have a solid check mark next to ATT. Stating "Device is compatible with service provider’s network but some service provider specific features may not be available. Please contact your service provider for details".
SO MY QUESTION IS -
What is it missing???
*I'd post source links but XDA doesn't allow newbies to post links.

Perhaps wireless calling. The phone might be compatible to handle wireless calls, but I know AT&T is infamous for turning features off unless you buy the phones from them.

grenva said:
According to Z3 Play page it has bands
LTE:††† B1 (2100) B2 (1900) B3 (1800) B4 (1700/2100) B5 (850) B7 (2600) B8 (900) B12 (lower700 abc) B13 (upper700) B14 (700 PS) B17 (lower700 bc) B18 (Japan low850) B19 (Japan hi850) B20 (800 DD) B25 (1900+) B26 (850+) B28 (700 APT) B29 (lower700 de) B30 (2300) B38 (TD2600) B40 (TD2300) B41 (TD2500) B41 HPUE (TD2500) B66 (AWS3+4) B71 (600 US)
UMTS:††† B1 (2100) B2 (1900) B4 (1700/2100) B5 (850) B8 (900)
CDMA:††† BC0 (850) BC1 (1900) BC10 (850+)
GSM:††† B2 (1900) B3 (1800) B5 (850) B8 (900)
It appears that this is all the necessary bands. According to ATT you need:
**MAIN BAND
12 –700 MHz Lower B/C/A. This is a superset of band 17, so band 17 is not required if band 12 is available in the phone.
**ADDITIONAL CAPACITY
2 – 1900 MHz PCS, provides bandwidth in many markets; 25 is a superset of band 2 but 25 is not required for some reason
4 – 1700/2100 MHz AWS, provides bandwidth in many markets
5 – 850 MHz CLR, the main band for areas lacking 700 lower B and/or C blocks
29 – 700 MHz Lower D/E – supplemental downlink bandwidth only; implemented in key markets
30 – 2300 MHz WCS, provides additional bandwidth in many markets
So it appears it has all of these,
HOWEVER, according to Motorola's carrier compatibility page it does not have a solid check mark next to ATT. Stating "Device is compatible with service provider’s network but some service provider specific features may not be available. Please contact your service provider for details".
SO MY QUESTION IS -
What is it missing???
*I'd post source links but XDA doesn't allow newbies to post links.
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Most likely two things, Wifi Calling and VOLTE. AT&T blocks these features on all unlocked phones that I've had so far.

jordant2 said:
Most likely two things, Wifi Calling and VOLTE. AT&T blocks these features on all unlocked phones that I've had so far.
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I'm not sure about available bands, but I've been getting blazing fast download speeds in off peak hours (83MBps), and reasonable speeds at other times. Just got my z3 Play today, and love it so far.

grenva said:
SO MY QUESTION IS -
What is it missing???
*I'd post source links but XDA doesn't allow newbies to post links.
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Update! Volte or HD Voice does in fact work on At&t. You have to either call At&t or go online if you have a business account and change the IMEI to an At&t phone. I can confirm that Volte works once you change the IMEI.

Update: Volte wors on Cricket Wireless too!

jordant2 said:
Update! Volte or HD Voice does in fact work on At&t. You have to either call At&t or go online if you have a business account and change the IMEI to an At&t phone. I can confirm that Volte works once you change the IMEI.
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Hi, I assume you have the phone. How long ago did you you set it up ? Meaning, did it at any point reversed VoLTE connectivity and defaulted back to HSPA only? I've seen some people making it work on other phones (after the IMEI trick) but as soon system recognizes - reads the right IMEI, the function is gone.
Thanks

Chareze said:
Hi, I assume you have the phone. How long ago did you you set it up ? Meaning, did it at any point reversed VoLTE connectivity and defaulted back to HSPA only? I've seen some people making it work on other phones (after the IMEI trick) but as soon system recognizes - reads the right IMEI, the function is gone.
Thanks
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So I first just swapped the Sim from my Note 8 and Volte was working. After a few calls it went back to HSPA during calls. A few days later I manually entered the IMEI in Premier and it stuck. That was over a week ago, and a million calls later. I'm still on Volte when making calls. Some calls even have a little HD symbol next to the call time to let me know I'm experiencing an HD Voice call.

That's interesting to hear. The problem is that I don't have that option to manually change IMEI, because my account is not Premier or Business. When you say Premier, can you clarify if that's just another name for business or something else? I have all things ATT - TV, internet and wireless, so I'm wondering if I can get some special treatment too.
Also, I don't have the phone neither, so not sure if it would work on OG ZPlay or Z2 Play. Definitely would. love to try it. when I tried with the Customer Rep changing IMEI for me I didn't work on any of the phones I mentioned.

Chareze said:
That's interesting to hear. The problem is that I don't have that option to manually change IMEI, because my account is not Premier or Business. When you say Premier, can you clarify if that's just another name for business or something else? I have all things ATT - TV, internet and wireless, so I'm wondering if I can get some special treatment too.
Also, I don't have the phone neither, so not sure if it would work on OG ZPlay or Z2 Play. Definitely would. love to try it. when I tried with the Customer Rep changing IMEI for me I didn't work on any of the phones I mentioned.
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Yes Premier is their business account portal. You should be able to use the IMEI from another at&t phone and call customer care as well. As long as they choose the right plan, Volte should work. Not sure about the OG ZPlay, I feel like I tried it before and it didn't work with that phone. Never had the Z2 Play so I can't speak to that phone. Tried to upload a picture of it but my phone won't cooperate right now.

Thanks a lot for the input!
Just tried with Z2 play and submitted the IMEI over the phone (for Z2 force ATT edition) and it didn't work not even for a second. I guess I gotta wait out a bit for the price to drop and have Motorola release more colors for Z3 play

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Which Note 4 Exynos version works with USA T-Mobile LTE?

Folks,
I have looked for this answer everywhere and do not seem to find an answer for it: Which version of the Note 4 Exynos works with T-Mobile LTE?
From a post I read, seems that the SM-N910C sold in Qatar works, but I am not sure.
Any help is greatly appreciated !
Cheers,
G
Interesting...unless the Qatar version supports 1700MHz band....I'm don't think you'll fully be able to utilize the TM network.
This makes me curious now...
This is what I found, from XDA:
SM-N910T(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910T1(Qualcomm Snapdragon 805)------[USA T-Mobile]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
Now, for models with Exynos:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910H(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia-Pacific]------{WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
I have read somewhere here in XDA that the SM-N910H will not work in T-Mobile. Then is only:
SM-N910C(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Asia,Europe,South America]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910K(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea KT+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910L(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea LG+]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910S(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[Korea SKT]------{FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
SM-N910U(Samsung Exynos 5433)------[HongKong,Taiwan,Australia,New Zealand,Chile]------{TDD-LTE+FDD-LTE+WCDMA+GSM}
And found this on the N910C:
http://www.globalcertificationforum.org/certified-devices/4648.html?view=terminal
E-UTRA FDD Band 1: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 2: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 3: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 4: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 5: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 7: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 8: Category : 4
E-UTRA FDD Band 20: Category : 4
And this on the N910K:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/kt/SM-N910KZKEKTC-spec
4G LTE B1 (2100), B3 (1800), B5 (850), B7 (2600), B8 (900) B17 (700)
And this on the N910L:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/lgt/SM-N910LZKELUC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600)
And this on the N910S:
http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/mobile-phone/skt/SM-N910SZKESKC-spec
4G LTE B1(2100),B3(1800),B5(850),B7(2600),B17(700)
And this on the SM-N910U:
http://www.samsung.com/nz/consumer/mobile-phone/smartphone/smartphone/SM-N910UZWENZC
B1(2100), B2(1900), B3(1800), B4(AWS), B5(850), B7(2600), B8(900), B28(700)
So, what do you think?
And finally, for T-Mobile's SM-N910T,
http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SM-N910TZKETMB
4G (LTE Cat 4 150/50Mbps) : B2 / B4 / B5 / B12 / B17
The authority on operating bands in the US is the FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
Also, when on call or in a low-signal area, hold the phone with your left hand. The diversity receiver (2nd antenna) is right beneath the power button.
ATnTdude said:
The authority on operating bands is the US FCC.
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=544347&fcc_id=A3LSMN910C
https://apps.fcc.gov/oetcf/eas/repo...ame=N&application_id=396270&fcc_id=A3LSMN910U
Short answer, The N910C and N910U has Band 4 LTE. Neither has band 12 (700MHz Block A)
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Yup, thanks a lot ! I was getting to that conclusion... T-Mobile uses Band 4 (AWS 1700/2100 MHz), which you are right only the N910C and N910U have. And also true, as with other international phones like the Sony Z3 and others, the biggest regret will be Band 12. However, for what I have read, the regret there of not having Band 12 is WiFi calling and some better reception indoor like in buildings and such.
Cheers,
G.
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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Thank you very much.
I looked at that map but did not quite understood the results. So, can you please educate me on what really I might miss should I go missing the Band 12 for someone living on those areas you have mentioned above?
I am tired of waiting on the T-Mobile Note 4 availability and the N910U seems to be available on eBay, plus it has the Exynos.
Cheers,
What's so special about the Exynos processor over the 805? The 805 in my Note4 is a beast.
Edit: http://www.androidauthority.com/galaxy-note-4-exynos-5433-vs-snapdragon-805-395820/
The Exynos is faster. Got it.
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ATnTdude said:
LTE Band 12 has nothing to do with WiFi calling. WiFi calling, in terms of hardware, simply requires WiFi, which all N910 models have (2.4 and 5.xGHz). The rest is carrier support (which T-Mobile has) and software on the phone (which if it isn't on by default can be added via root).
LTE Band 12 doesn't matter much outside of California, Florida, Texas, New England, Cleveland, Denver, Detroit, Atlanta, Minneapolis and Indianapolis. Leap (Cricket) Wireless owns most of the 700MHz Block A spectrum in America. Check out this map and see where you live vs what your carrier holds.
http://specmap.sequence-omega.net/
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How do you add wi-fi calling via root? My understanding is that no one has managed to extract wi-fi related software pieces from T-Mobile ROMs and successfully port anywhere. That's why I'm always stuck with TW ROMs.
Just get the sm-n910t. Why do you want Exynos version? Many app wont take advantage of that cpu.
Yup, I did. Was trying to find alternatives since the Tmobile version seems so scarce and difficult to get...but, finally got one. Cheerrs. G.
N910C VoLTE and international dialer questions.
For anyone that has the N910C running on T-Mobile, is VoLTE actived for you? When you make a call, does it stay on LTE or does it drop to 4G (HSPA) and then go back to LTE after you hang up.
Also, does the dialer include the video chat icon on the bottom left and is there a way to remove it since (I'm guessing) it doesn't work.
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
turoki said:
I have a n910c and I'm on tmobile when I call it drops down to 4g then goes back to lte.
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Does HSPA (aws) 3G/4G (H+) work on your 910c on tmobile?
Also are you able to make calls & use data at the same time?
Edit: nevermind just read above post. Please disregard
Can anyone confirm for sure if they're able to surf the web or do any data related activity while on a call with their sm-n910c? I have ZERO data connectivity while on a call and as soon as the call hangs up, I instantly have my data back. Any help or confirmation is appreciated.

[Q] Xperia Z3+ Dual - US - T-Mobile Compatibility

All -
I have been eagerly awaiting the release of this phone in the US and was surprised that Expansys USA listed it on their site on Monday 23rd June as a DUAL SIMM model.
I called them to verify that they did in fact have the phone in stock. In that conversation I realized the one they have seems to be the European Model and does not support T-Mobile LTE in the US. To clarify the maximum speed you can get on the E6533 is 3G on T-Mobile's network.
This brings me to my question and please indulge me if it has already been answered elsewhere: Will there be a US version of the (Xperia Z3+ -E6533)that is slated to be released and if so does anyone know if if it will fully support US T-Mobile 4G LTE.?
Any information would be greatly appreciated. Thanks Much.
What gave you the impression that the E6533 won't get more than 3G on T-Mobile? According to GSM Arena, that specific model has B4(1700/2100) and B12(700), which is what T-Mobile primarily uses for LTE. If the information is correct, you should have no problem connecting to T-Mobile's network.
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E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf
schecter7 said:
E6533 (Dual) is the one you want!
From white papers,
E6533 -> supports tmobile LTE & 3G
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1700 (Band IV),
1900 (Band II), 2100 (Band I) MHz
TD-LTE (Band 38, 39, 40, 41)
FDD-LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20)
E6553 -> supports tmobile LTE, but does not support their 1700MHz 3G band !
UMTS HSPA+ 850 (Band V), 900 (Band VIII), 1900 (Band II),
2100 (Band I) MHz
LTE (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17, 20, 28, 40)
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_dual_E6533_WP_2.pdf
http://dl-developer.sonymobile.com/documentation/whitepapers/Xperia_Z3+_E6553_WP_2.pdf
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T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.
I should be receiving my Z3+ by Wednesday. I'll let you guys know how T-Mobile performs on it. I ordered the single sim, E6553 version.
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Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.
schecter7 said:
Please do! Also check the 3G compatibilty beside LTE. Since Culex316 said 1700 MHz 3G being phased out, it should be fine. Like OP, I was also initially planning to get the E6533 (Dual) as I have a tmobile sim too (micro). I ended up getting the E6553 to use on my ATT line as the white paper says dual sim version LTE DL is limited to 150 Mbps (vs 300 Mbps on the E6553) & the dual sim also doesn't support quick charge 2.0 just yet.
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I should be able to report my findings on Thursday. Have a date with the lady friend on Wednesday so I probably won't do anything with the phone until Thursday. First few charge cycles suck and i don't want to end up with a dead phone in the middle of a date.
But I didn't know that there dual sim version didn't have quick charge yet, that's interesting. I'm not too bothered by LTE speeds honestly, but connectivity is always a concern.
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Culex316 said:
T-Mobile is phasing out their 1700Mhz 3G band soon so it won't really matter.
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Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.
Lolento said:
Right and T-Mobile is moving their edge network to LTE band 12.
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No, they are refarming the 1900Mhz spectrum from their 2G EDGE network to LTE.
Band 12 is a different frequency altogether (700Mhz A block).
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Honestly, I've never been too fused about LTE speeds, as long as I have HSPA+ I'm happy.
But a preliminary report on the E6553 - it connects to T-Mobile just fine for now. I started this phone up a few hours ago and have it set up now. My home is a horrible spot for T-Mobile, but I'll be out and about tomorrow so we'll see the connectivity.
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Been out and connectivity to T-Mobile's network everywhere has been great!
No issues with voice calls or anything. The E6553 is definitely a great choice for me. I've also been getting great battery life too. I'll report what I've got in the battery thread
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Refarming 1900mhz doesnt mean the LTE spectrum will end up at this spectrum. The converted spectrum will be at band 12 700mhz from EVERYTHING I've read.
E6533 - Didnt work with T-Mobile LTE?
Colin -
If I am reading your post correctly, the DUAL SIMM version you got from "NeverMSRP" did not work with 4G LTE on T-Mobile? Ironically that is the same dude I been emialing and he swears it works. Kindly advise.
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Heating issues?
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?
peltruquin said:
how about the so reported heating problems, is it a big deal for you guys?
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Heat = Warm. Warm = Every Powerful phone
CollinFX45 said:
I came to the sad realization that if you're on T-Mobile, you can't quite have your cake and eat it too with this latest Z3+ situation. I was so excited and almost ordered the E6533 dual SIM version off eBay and the seller "NeverMSRP" where I have bought from many times listed the dual SIM version as having both band 12 and AWS HSPA+ compatibility. I know the latter isn't widely deployed still, but I wanted the dual SIM option and that was icing on the cake. Then I saw conflicting reports and noticed Sony's own whitepapers did not have band 12 listed on the E6533. Sure enough, I think the eBay seller was reporting the incorrect frequencies. Total bummer. I don't want to buy anymore T-Mobile phones without band 12 as I think late 2015 is really when it's going to shine. Anyway, be careful of eBay.
-Collin-
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Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon
Teo032 said:
Also curious. Does LTE work or not? How are you sure band 12 isn't there?
Can anybody else provide input?
Looking into getting z3+ soon
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Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...
asking said:
Its very simple just search google for "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6553 white paper" for Single sim version and "Sony Xperia Z3+ E6533 White Paper" for dual sim version. Check if LTE band is there in company's product datasheet... don't believe on sellers from ebay ...they copy stuff same for all mobiles...
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yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.
Teo032 said:
yes it's also very simple to see that it was provided earlier, but this guy's experience seems to be a bad one, and we're trying to confirm his personal experience instead of some sheet nobody has confirmed working on t-mobile yet. So unless you don't have your own personal confirmation why don't you google something else for yourself.
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i was trying to help as there are many amazon customer who says it works with T - Mobile in USA.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ZOONHYI?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00

t-mobile version on at&t

I wanted to get the t-mobile version and use it on AT&T. Does anyone know if I will have trouble unlocking it or have any issues using it on AT&T network. I have unlimited data so I want to be able use hotspot option. Also, the box is hideous on AT&T.
My understanding is that all carriers got the same variant. Should have no issues, except maybe Wi-Fi calling being weird.
dont do it.
The tmobile and att use different brands so while it will work on the network the internet will be slower.
unless this has change but from what it has always been is the network brands where different and some people where not able to get 4g lte
xile6 said:
dont do it.
The tmobile and att use different brands so while it will work on the network the internet will be slower.
unless this has change but from what it has always been is the network brands where different and some people where not able to get 4g lte
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I think they all have the same exact hardware. Someone on the Verizon forum took a Verizon phone and flashed the T-mobile firmware and it works perfectly. (I may have those carriers mixed up but you get the idea)
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I think they all have the same exact hardware. Someone on the Verizon forum took a Verizon phone and flashed the T-mobile firmware and it works perfectly. (I may have those carriers mixed up but you get the idea)
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No no firmware is software base.
Im talking about network mhz Frequency.
If i remember right tmobile was 900mhz 1800mhz and 1900mhz
And att was 850mhz 1700 and 1900.
They used different bands for internet. So must people who switch couldnt get 4g internet.
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No no firmware is software base.
Im talking about network mhz Frequency.
If i remember right tmobile was 900mhz 1800mhz and 1900mhz
And att was 850mhz 1700 and 1900.
They used different bands for internet. So must people who switch couldnt get 4g internet.
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I understand thank you. And what I am saying is I think they all have the same bands/hardware and just need a flash to unlock it all. Aka the pit file and bootloader.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-note-7/help/lte-bands-n930v-att-t-mobile-lte-t3443373
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Always been different for as long as o can remember
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5264
Taken from there
LTE (4G)
band 1 / 2100 MHz IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
band 2 / 1900 MHz PCS (Americas)
band 3 / 1800 MHz DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 4 / 1700 MHz AWS (Americas)
band 5 / 850 MHz Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
band 7 / 2600 MHz IMT-E (Canada, South America, Europe, Asia)
band 8 / 900 MHz (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 12 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T, T-Mobile, regional))
band 13 / 750 MHz Upper 700 (USA (Verizon))
band 20 / 800 MHz EU Digital Dividend (Europe)
band 25 / 1900 MHz PCS+G (USA (Sprint))
band 26 / 850 MHz Extended Cellular (USA (Sprint))
band 29 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T))
band 30 / 2300 MHz WCS (Americas (AT&T))
band 40 / 2300 MHz (Asia, Africa, Oceana)
band 41 / 2500 MHz BRS / EBS (USA (Sprint))
xile6 said:
Always been different for as long as o can remember
http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=5264
Taken from there
LTE (4G)
band 1 / 2100 MHz IMT (Europe, Asia, Africa, Oceania, Brazil, India, Israel)
band 2 / 1900 MHz PCS (Americas)
band 3 / 1800 MHz DCS (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 4 / 1700 MHz AWS (Americas)
band 5 / 850 MHz Cellular (Americas, Oceania, Brazil, Israel)
band 7 / 2600 MHz IMT-E (Canada, South America, Europe, Asia)
band 8 / 900 MHz (Europe, Asia, Africa)
band 12 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T, T-Mobile, regional))
band 13 / 750 MHz Upper 700 (USA (Verizon))
band 20 / 800 MHz EU Digital Dividend (Europe)
band 25 / 1900 MHz PCS+G (USA (Sprint))
band 26 / 850 MHz Extended Cellular (USA (Sprint))
band 29 / 700 MHz Lower 700 (USA (AT&T))
band 30 / 2300 MHz WCS (Americas (AT&T))
band 40 / 2300 MHz (Asia, Africa, Oceana)
band 41 / 2500 MHz BRS / EBS (USA (Sprint))
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Please read my previous post carefully and then click the link I provided. I am not arguing that the carriers use different bands.
Yea my bad didnt see the link you posted. But yea of the phonne has them build in just turn off that will work.
Before the phnes themself didnt have the bands
I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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You should try. Apparently it will work.
AUSTIN3:16 said:
I have unlocked (SIM) my note 7 and it works great on AT&T. I tried a Sprint SIM and it wouldn't work. I even went to Sprint store and they tried to enter the IMEI in their system as a BYOD. Didn't work even after they tried adding it through their CS Techs on the phone. The T-Mobile version does not have the CDMA radios active. I haven't tried to flash it to Sprint to see if the Sprint ROM would enable the CDMA radio.
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Awesome! How did you unlock it so soon? I thought t-mobile policy is to wait for 45 days
Can you flash non native ROM with locked bootloader? or is it just flashing modem ok?
So when the unlocked sm-n930u version is released, will we be able to flash that firmware on our phones? Allowing us to remove all the carrier bloatware that was installed.
Sent from my SM-N930T using Tapatalk
I have a tmobile n5 on att, i see it go through 2,4,12,17 att lte band with the stock tmo modem. 2,4,5,17 are the main att lte bands
Tmo version on att
I have tmo version, sim unlocked using DoctorSim and use on att with lte. No problems

LTE Carrier Aggregation / Bands Info

Similar to LTE in the UK I would seek info about the LTE Cat12 Modem in the Honor 10 Lite: which LTE Bands are supported and is there support for Carrier Aggregation?
The Bands of interest for me (possibly all supported in this order): B3 (1800+), B20, B7 (2600), B1 (2100), B32
According to gadgetsnow.com there is support only for: 4G Bands TD-LTE 2300 (band 40), FD-LTE 1800 (band 3)
Just got the Honor 10 Lite yesterday I'm using a "Three" sim.
Here's the Connectivity specs :
Frequency band: 4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20 3G UMTS: B1/2/5/8 2G GSM: B2/3/5/8; Network rate: 4G LTE FDD: 150 Mbit/s(DL), 50 Mbit/s(UL) 3G WCDMA (HSDPA/ HSUPA): 42 Mbit/s(DL), 5.76Mbit/s(UL) 2G GPRS/EDGE:
296Kbit/s(DL), 236.8Kbit/s(UL); Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, 2.4GHz; Support Wi-Fi Hotspot; USB 2.0; Bluetooth 4.2+BLE
https://www.hihonor.com/uk/product/10044347606445.html#10044315762089
s0litaire said:
Frequency bands: 4G LTE FDD: B1/B3/B5/B7/B8/B20
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Ok, so just B32 is missing for my area. If you plan to root the phone I would be interested if Carrier Aggregation support could be tested. Not sure if in your area CA2 or CA3 (combining of 2 or 3 bands) is available? This would double or triple the speed.
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Ok, so just B32 is missing for my area. If you plan to root the phone I would be interested if Carrier Aggregation support could be tested. Not sure if in your area CA2 or CA3 (combining of 2 or 3 bands) is available? This would double or triple the speed.
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Not sure If I'm going to root this phone. Got a few apps that don't play well with routed devices,
As for CA support. "Three" in the UK just started testing it in a few regions in the UK (as of 1st Nov 2018) I'm not in one of those regions (Closest CA test area for me is Glasgow) so can't test it at the moment.
Honor 10lite carrier aggregation support?
is there any way to Enable carrier aggregation on Honor 10lite with kirin710 cheap?
As where Honor Company didnt care about Customers.
And this is qustion for me why this Function is disabled in this device altogh we see so many huawei device with same cheap but those device support 4.5g and ca
Could anyone share a screenshot of honor 10lite while the sign of 4.5g or 4g+ is captured on screen. Tanks in advance.
I doubt this device support 4.5g network connection cus we cannot see carrier aggregation box in mobile network settings

General Samsung Galaxy S23 -- different models (SM-S911x) (B/U/W/N/0/E)

When new phones are released, I always find this confusing, and have difficulty tracking down accurate information. Perhaps writing it down here, and getting feedback from the community, can help some other people:
GSMArena reports the following models:
SM-S911B
SM-S911B/DS
SM-S911U
SM-S911U1
SM-S911W
SM-S911N
SM-S9110
SM-S911E
SM-S911E/DS
source: https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s23-12082.php
Typically there are lists suggesting which model corresponds to which geographic market. I'll work to track that info down, and add it here.
Looking through the firmware listings on sammobile (and Kimovi for S911E) here are approximate geographic regions for models:
SM-S911B -- Europe / Africa / Middle East / Oceania
SM-S911B/DS -- (assumed same as above, Dual SIM)
SM-S911U -- USA
SM-S911U1 -- USA ( factory unlocked )
SM-S911W -- Canada
SM-S911N -- Korea
SM-S9110 -- China / Taiwan / Hong Kong
SM-S911E -- Latin America
SM-S911E/DS -- (assumed same as above, Dual SIM)
sources:
[1] https://www.sammobile.com/samsung/galaxy-s23/firmware
[2] https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23-sm-s911e
additional updates
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
ScottHW said:
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
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SM-S911U / SM-S911U1
source: https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23-sm-s911u
5G
n1 (2100)
n2 (1900 PCS)
n3 (1800)
n5 (850)
n7 (2600)
n8 (900)
n25 (1900)
n38 (2600)
n40 (2300)
n41 (2500)
n66 (1700)
n71 (600)
n77 (3700)
n78 (3500)
n260 mmWave (39GHz)
n261 mmWave (28GHz)
4G LTE
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B13 (700)
B14 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B25 (1900+)
B26 (850)
B28b (700)
B28a (700)
B30 (2300)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
B46 (TDD 5200)
B48 (TDD 3600)
B66 (1700/2100)
B71 (600)
3G
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
B19 (800)
2G
CDMA BC0 (800)
CDMA BC1 (1900)
CDMA BC10 (800 Secondary)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
ScottHW said:
Another thing I've tried to track down in the past is radio bands / frequencies.
Kimovil seems to have dedicated pages for five various models (which means it covers 8 of the 9 models from the OP list), so I'm posting them here.
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SM-S911B / SM-S911B/DS
source: https://www.kimovil.com/en/where-to-buy-samsung-galaxy-s23
5G
n1 (2100)
n3 (1800)
n5 (850)
n7 (2600)
n8 (900)
n20 (800)
n28b (700)
n28a (700)
n38 (2600)
n40 (2300)
n41 (2500)
n66 (1700)
n77 (3700)
n78 (3500)
4G LT
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS 1)
B5 (850)
B7 (2600)
B8 (900)
B12 (700)
B13 (700)
B17 (700)
B18 (800)
B19 (800)
B20 (800)
B28b (700)
B28a (700)
B32 (1500)
B38 (TDD 2600)
B39 (TDD 1900)
B40 (TDD 2300)
B41 (TDD 2500)
B66 (1700/2100)
3G
B1 (2100)
B2 (1900)
B4 (1700/2100 AWS A-F)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
B19 (800)
2G
B2 (1900)
B3 (1800)
B5 (850)
B8 (900)
Wow. I just realized that S23 has no Exynos models anymore. Has the Samsung gods answered our prayers to finally bring bootloader unlocking to Snapdragons or will it stay locked?
webhook said:
Wow. I just realized that S23 has no Exynos models anymore. Has the Samsung gods answered our prayers to finally bring bootloader unlocking to Snapdragons or will it stay locked?
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@webhook Right?!?! If I'm understanding correctly, this XDA article says:
... the bootloader of the US and Canadian Snapdragon models can't be unlocked, a design which essentially forced most of the modding jobs centered around the Exynos-powered editions. This changes with the Galaxy S23 series, as all regional variants are now powered by a modified Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 chipset.
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Sounds like our prayers have indeed been answered!
And I think this post by @afaneh92 shows that's right :-D In fact, they have several examples of custom recoveries running on S23 models.
The reason I'd started this tread was becausefor the S22 I had all kinds of hassles trying to weigh which variant was the right choice; the US models couldn't be unlocked, but the international ones didn't have quite all the right radio bands/frequencies. I never ended up buying the S22 because of it.
Seems like that's all a thing of the past.
ScottHW said:
@webhook Right?!?! If I'm understanding correctly, this XDA article says:
Sounds like our prayers have indeed been answered!
And I think this post by @afaneh92 shows that's right :-D In fact, they have several examples of custom recoveries running on S23 models.
The reason I'd started this tread was becausefor the S22 I had all kinds of hassles trying to weigh which variant was the right choice; the US models couldn't be unlocked, but the international ones didn't have quite all the right radio bands/frequencies. I never ended up buying the S22 because of it.
Seems like that's all a thing of the past.
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Finally! The Samsung gods have answered us... Bring out the roms!
webhook said:
Finally! The Samsung gods have answered us... Bring out the roms!
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@webhook
On another thread, someone else has indicated it's possible we may be celebrating too early. Apparently it is possible that, Sammy used a uniform chipset, and still went out of their way to create extra bootloader locks for specific region variants.
I pm'd afaneh92 to try to clear this up.
If my excitement has led us astray, I deeply apologize.
ScottHW said:
@webhook
On another thread, someone else has indicated it's possible we may be celebrating too early. Apparently it is possible that, Sammy used a uniform chipset, and still went out of their way to create extra bootloader locks for specific region variants.
I pm'd afaneh92 to try to clear this up.
If my excitement has led us astray, I deeply apologize.
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Oh dang, well I think International versions might be only unlocked.
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Oh dang, well I think International versions might be only unlocked.
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You are correct.
I can't find firmware for S911E,So I guess there was no S91xE

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