camera quality - Moto X4 Questions & Answers

I recently bought my sister a Moto x4 for her birthday via a recent online sale on flipkart. The phone looks great and performs very well but but my only complaint is the camera. After spending around 20k i expected it to be at least a mid range level kind of quality. There's a lot of noise even in daylight photos, the edges are not sharp, sometimes photos look like water color painting. I'm very disappointed. Even my redmi 3s prime (with gcam mod) can take better photos compared to that.
I tried everything thing like updating the software and trying different gcam mods but none of them worked.
Please help...

Install some GCam mod, the stock camera isn't good, but they are improving.

abrfilho said:
Install some GCam mod, the stock camera isn't good, but they are improving.
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Can you share the link of a fully working gcam mod ? Thanks.

Try Arnova's v7 beta 9 or v6
Both are almost similar and work very well

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Low light

At the club, at the bar, or just in your mom's basement, nighttime is when you come out to play. Rate this thread to express how the LeEco Le Pro3's camera performs when no or low light is present. A higher rating indicates that the camera sensor "sees" lots of light in dim conditions, and that the resulting photos have minimal noise. A higher rating also indicates that when the flash fires, the resulting photo is evenly-lit without any bright spots.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
4 stars? This camera is on par with phones from 5 years ago, especially when things get dark.
4 stars as well, better or equal than iPhone 7 but weaker than the likes of Pixel, Galaxy S7/S8, HTC. Tip: Just use Google Camera App.
Has anyone else seen a "haze" effect when shots are taken at night with the flash? I have tried multiple camera apps and they all produce the same effect. Whenever there is very low lighting and the flash is turned on I almost get this haze on every single photo. However if pitch black this does not happen and I get a perfect photo with flash as expected.
just use a custom nougat rom and modded google camera. then the camera is decent. 4 stars from me
This is 100% stock LEX727 on 21s update.
It was kind of foggy last night.
Ascertion said:
This is 100% stock LEX727 on 21s update.
It was kind of foggy last night.
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Install a nougat ROM and google camera enable auto hdr and be amazed!
The IMX298 takes some pretty sub-par night shots. I was trying to take pics of a half moon and full, hazy moon. Looked amazing to the naked eye but the Pro3 Elite couldn't capture the full details of the moon, unfortunately. See here:
https://ibb.co/hguYaG
https://ibb.co/hOoRvG <---- My best night shot with this phone to date
https://ibb.co/fBsmvG
I'm using an unrooted phone with unmodified Gcam (for 6.0) and VSCO. I also tried Open Camera but it's not as good. I wonder if Camera2 API makes a difference for low light and night shots.
sk8223 said:
The IMX298 takes some pretty sub-par night shots. I was trying to take pics of a half moon and full, hazy moon. Looked amazing to the naked eye but the Pro3 Elite couldn't capture the full details of the moon, unfortunately. See here:
https://ibb.co/hguYaG
https://ibb.co/hOoRvG <---- My best night shot with this phone to date
https://ibb.co/fBsmvG
I'm using an unrooted phone with unmodified Gcam (for 6.0) and VSCO. I also tried Open Camera but it's not as good. I wonder if Camera2 API makes a difference for low light and night shots.
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So why you going to complain when this is related everywhere and we'll known. This is also why a lot of people root just to install gcam. To get a better camera experience. Judging by your comments you know this already.
cas8180 said:
So why you going to complain when this is related everywhere and we'll known. This is also why a lot of people root just to install gcam. To get a better camera experience. Judging by your comments you know this already.
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It does a worse job in low light than the Zenfone 3, which has the same sensor and a poorer processor (Snapdragon 625).
Use Open Camera for low light the app makes it bright
A phone is a phone camera phone all of them have a tiny tiny sensor.
No professional or semi professional would use a camera phone for their work.
Phone camera are for those quick friends pictures when you may not have camera.
I do wildlife photography I would never use this phone for that.
This camera an fair to camera.
Sent from my LEX720 using xda premium
mchlbenner said:
A phone is a phone camera phone all of them have a tiny tiny sensor.
No professional or semi professional would use a camera phone for their work.
Phone camera are for those quick friends pictures when you may not have camera.
I do wildlife photography I would never use this phone for that.
This camera an fair to camera.
Sent from my LEX720 using xda premium
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A lot of smartphone sensors are just getting better and better, sometimes on par with older DSLRs. The Pixel 2, for example. As the Pixel line's Visual Core chip, and smartphone sensors in general continue improving, I don't see why you wouldn't be able to use a smartphone for some professional photography in the future.
Obviously a Pixel 2 doesn't compare to a $20k Hasselblad, but it's an interesting comparison nonetheless: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DuTnYi_HW2o
Google Camera 4.4 HDR+ or Gcam 5.1 also works on Nougat and Oreo should do good job even in low light
It's below average at this point. It was already far behind the Oneplus 3 or Mi5s in 2016 in low light.
I compared it to the iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, Redmi Pro (same sensor as Redmi Note 4) and LG V30. The Le Pro 3 only beats the Redmi Pro in low light but it's not a huge victory. Even the 2015 iPhone 6s Plus is muuuch better.
The Redmi Note 5 is likely much better with its much improved camera.
433Mhz said:
It's below average at this point. It was already far behind the Oneplus 3 or Mi5s in 2016 in low light.
I compared it to the iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, Redmi Pro (same sensor as Redmi Note 4) and LG V30. The Le Pro 3 only beats the Redmi Pro in low light but it's not a huge victory. Even the 2015 iPhone 6s Plus is muuuch better.
The Redmi Note 5 is likely much better with its much improved camera.
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It uses the same sensor as op3 & 3t but just lacks OIS. It's not really behind OP3/3T in hardware level. So, the only difference is the software and if you use a custom ROM with right GCam 5 port with right settings, you can actually take some really good photos even in low light conditions.
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It uses the same sensor as op3 & 3t but just lacks OIS. It's not really behind OP3/3T in hardware level. So, the only difference is the software and if you use a custom ROM with right GCam 5 port with right settings, you can actually take some really good photos even in low light conditions.
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I find it a shame that most who have smartphone lepro3 does not dare to post their photos taken in low light with the Google camera application to prove that it is not at all bad compared to other smartphones.
I share the link of my photos https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNwEVDBueDHV0JINHqdoKWIIxdPbihOOz3DwoSbztu_Hn5s0KxCCKI7Jb8sf_YTIg?key=dklud2xhd09oRHlHWnY5NE43S1Z3VVVyMFNqVXpn
I put the link photos taken with the samsung galaxy 7 edge to compare the photos of day and night compared to the quality of snapshots taken with gcam 6.1.021 with our smartphone lepro3.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNwEVDBueDHV0JINHqdoKWIIxdPbihOOz3DwoSbztu_Hn5s0KxCCKI7Jb8sf_YTIg?key=dklud2xhd09oRHlHWnY5NE43S1Z3VVVyMFNqVXpn
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I put the link photos taken with the samsung galaxy 7 edge to compare the photos of day and night compared to the quality of snapshots taken with gcam 6.1.021 with our smartphone lepro3.
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNwEVDBueDHV0JINHqdoKWIIxdPbihOOz3DwoSbztu_Hn5s0KxCCKI7Jb8sf_YTIg?key=dklud2xhd09oRHlHWnY5NE43S1Z3VVVyMFNqVXpn
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Your comparisons are awesome! I have one question though. On some le pro 3 photos of yours there is information Huawei x722 - that would be input model of Huawei in gcam settings, but what about google LEX722? Is it pixel II in the input settings?
AdrianTry said:
Your comparisons are awesome! I have one question though. On some le pro 3 photos of yours there is information Huawei x722 - that would be input model of Huawei in gcam settings, but what about google LEX722? Is it pixel II in the input serrings?
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Precisely by setting in nexup 6p input we have the name of Huawei x722 with the version I put online.
I also installed a version of cstark27 and put the settings on pixel 3xl
https://f.celsoazevedo.com/file/gcamera/LGN2_MGC_6.1.021_MI8_V1d.apk
is for that in the exif is displayed google lex722.

Is the Nokia 8 camera still sub-par with latest software?

Hi
With the latest Nokia Camera Pro or a suitable GCam installed, is it fair to say that the Nokia 8's camera performance is now reasonably acceptable, say, comparable to a good 2017 mid-range phone, and with usable OIS?
Or do you think it is still sub-par?
In addition to picture quality, practical issues like focusing speed and accuracy are also important considerations.
Thanks in advance for any feedback.
I have a GCam mod installed, Arnova's version and in my opinion the picture quality is very good, at least in good light conditions. In difficult light conditions the camera still has its limits. The Nokia Pro Camera app has not changed much here in my opinions though there is potential for future improvement. However, we have to see what Nokia can deliver. That being said, the picture quality in my opinion with a suitable GCam mod is more than sufficient and I have taken some very nice pictures with the phone already. I definitely do not think it is any worse than a 2017 mid ranger. I have not experienced issues with auto focus on the GCam mods.
I use the Nokia app almost exclusively now, it still has some silly problems but the image output is satisfactory for a phone snapper.
I used to use a mix of GCam and the nokia pro app. In good light the photos are really good.
The main issue i had was the phone never focused when i used to point it downwards (say for example taking a photo of my dog). i had to hold it facing up and wait for it to focus and then take the photo.
Hi
Has the Nokia 8's camera performance improved even further with the latest GCam CStark version, which seems to be the preferred mod on XDA? Would any user care to share their recent experience?
Thanks!
Hopeless in low light, ok in day light.
GCam helps a lot.
I use the latest Arnova version and it works very well, also in lowlight.
Wirh gcam very best , nice pics , nokia software is ****

gcam or stock

Just something i was wondering. What do you guys prefer using the stock mi camera app or gcam? I use the mi one mostly since one thing ive noticed is that back in my redmi note 4 gcam made a heck load of difference but with the a2, not so much tbh
Hammad1029 said:
Just something i was wondering. What do you guys prefer using the stock mi camera app or gcam? I use the mi one mostly since one thing ive noticed is that back in my redmi note 4 gcam made a heck load of difference but with the a2, not so much tbh
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GCam, in low-light/night scenarios, significantly outperforms stock. In good lightening conditions you might be able to see a little lack of proper WB tuning on GCam, colors are a bit exaggerated (unreal), stock camera handles color accuracy better (though, it won't capture as many details as GCam even in the best lightening conditions). Cropped sky shots on GCam reveal dot patterns, GCam devs now implement a fix by B-S-G, but you can't fully get rid of dots. By the way, the so-called Xtreme libs, that are available in previous Tolyan's builds, were the top solution to the dots' problem for me a month ago. If you'll be pissed off by the black dots, go try his builds. I just nevermind them 'cause we have a good dev who tunes everything to match Mi A2 capabilities.
Here is a link to builds by a Russian guy who works on bringing the best GCam performance to Mi A2.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-the_dise/
Cheers!
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GCam, in low-light/night scenarios, significantly outperforms stock. In good lightening conditions you might be able to see a little lack of proper WB tuning on GCam, colors are a bit exaggerated (unreal), stock camera handles color accuracy better (though, it won't capture as many details as GCam even in the best lightening conditions). Cropped sky shots on GCam reveal dot patterns, GCam devs now implement a fix by B-S-G, but you can't fully get rid of dots. By the way, the so-called Xtreme libs, that are available in previous Tolyan's builds, were the top solution to the dots' problem for me a month ago. If you'll be pissed off by the black dots, go try his builds. I just nevermind them 'cause we have a good dev who tunes everything to match Mi A2 capabilities.
Here is a link to builds by a Russian guy who works on bringing the best GCam performance to Mi A2.
https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-the_dise/
Cheers!
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Thanks for the comprehensive answer. Never experienced these black dots myself tho. Its mostly just about stability for me and all the gcams ive tried aren't nearly as stable as stock camera. They end up crashing when i most need them. Anyways i havent tried the build you linked which is supposed to be specific to those device so ill try that to see if theres any difference.
Hammad1029 said:
Thanks for the comprehensive answer. Never experienced these black dots myself tho. Its mostly just about stability for me and all the gcams ive tried aren't nearly as stable as stock camera. They end up crashing when i most need them. Anyways i havent tried the build you linked which is supposed to be specific to those device so ill try that to see if theres any difference.
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That's the issue for me as well.
At the end of the day, photography is mainly about catching the moment.. so you can have the best HDR in this world, but if the camera crashes/freezes when you really need it, then it completely misses the point.
Even if I think that the gcam gives better results (if you don't consider the dots), I'm using the stock app simply because it's way more reliable (and not bad anyway).

Question should I buy the phone? How is the performance and camera quality? any heating problem?

should I buy the phone?
How is the performance and camera quality?
any heating problem?
For me it's the best. Go for it!
I can say that you buy it calmly, although if you want better photos you will need to replace the Stock Camera with the GCam. In Gaming it behaves quite well, I can even Interpolate Videos and at the same time make it Rescale using MPV.
It's a good phone, but if you have the money go straight for the Pro version, you won't be disappointed.
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
null0seven said:
I buy it for design. I Love the rectangular design! Awesome !
Phone works fine for me. Is fast. Camera is bad for me comminig from OnePlus 9 Pro & 10 Pro.
And i look after Motorola Edge 30, newer .... whaaaattt?!? is the same phone, but expensive.
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About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
However, the OnePlus sensors are quality. In that sense, it is worth paying more money for a better camera.
fulltronservice said:
About the camera... I totally agree if we were talking about photos captured with the Stock Application. With GCam the quality of the photographs increases dramatically.
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Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
null0seven said:
Hi.
For installing Gcam you need unlocked bootloader, root ?
If is no need, wich version works best with our Motorola Edge 20?
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It is not necessary to do any of those things that make you lose the guarantee. I use LMC version 8.2
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
null0seven said:
I install this one. Funny, when i install this, Motorola camera is better...
MGC_8.4.600_A10_V10_ENG.
I did not find LMC at all.
Google Camera Port Developers/Modders
Description about each Google Camera Port developer and links to their download pages.
www.celsoazevedo.com
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LMC RELEASE
t.me
This is the LMC 8.4_R11. I can't upload the file here because it is too heavy.

Question Are you facing issues on Redmi Note 11 Camera?

Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
Been facing same prob. I hear GCam looks better.
Paran360 said:
Hello everyone,
I am so upset buying this Redmi Note 11 (spes) , everything exept camera is fine.
Do you know how to get better output from camera ?
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G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Did you try EU stable rom?
Paran360 said:
Did you try EU stable rom?
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I've not tried any rom yet, actually I'm unable to decide which distro I should choose, I want to try Pixel Experience but I can't see it near future
sarib said:
G cam worked for me, stock camera application is crap, shooting with flashlight will results in blue pics, hah rubbish even my oppo a37 shoots better than note 11
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Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
nevernding said:
Would you mind sharing which GCam version and config you are using please ?
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Latest 8.1.101, without configurations cuz there's not any config file for note 11, +wide camera isn't working properly
in android 12.1 GSI PE Plus i use OnePlus Camera Ported by AyraHikary
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
Oifan said:
Yesterday I have found out (on my Redmi Note 11 with Superior-OS) that the pixelation / blur in photos (I thought it's caused by ****ty Camera app / driver) might be resolved by using better Gallery app:
https://apkpure.com/gallery-photo-gallery-album/gallery.photomanager.picturegalleryapp.imagegallery
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How does another gallary app fix the photo?
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How does another gallary app fix the photo?
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It has fixed the quality / speed of the picture rendering -- during scolling & zooming of a picture (subway map) I have seen pixelated / blurred areas (for > 1sec) and I thought it's a camera problem. But when I used another gallery app, it was pixelated only for maybe 0.5sec and then it got perfectly sharp.
I mean it's not Windows so it doesn't show you the icon (when the app is busy and the user should wait) -- so I was not sure whether the app is busy rendering or not.
I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
BobHumphrey said:
I noticed camer on the redmi is not as good as the camera on my MiA2. I am hoping gcam will fix that but I will have to use the stock camera app sometimes for pro mode.
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gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
The Mero said:
gcam does give slightly better results , but i think the 50mp sensor is a dog tbh
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I have noticed the "auto" picture with gcam is way better than the auto setting on the stock app. Using the pro mode on the stock app though I can get a more realistic picture by adjusting white balance etc manually but the image still isn't as crisp as gcam. Night mode on gcam is amazing too.
Can't seem to get the 50mp to work on gcam so can't compare that. I use the 50mp feature to take pictures of signs or large blocks of text, I can definitely get better clarity when zooming in but I wouldn't call it a great looking picture. Luckily that isn't why I bought the phone.
The camera doesn't knock out true 50mp photos , they pixels are arranged in groups of 4 so 4 small ones make up one bigger one hence the 12.5mp photos . 50mp photos are just enlarged 12.5 ones really . And You may notice a lot of versions of gcam are knocking out 8mp photos too , try the version I posted in the gcam thread with the XML ( it's got an agc extension for some reason ) . It produces 12.5s and it's the sharpest gcam I've seen yet , although white balance is a bit off it can easily be corrected in Snapseed
And tbh I'm starting to think this phone is a dog , phone call volume seems pretty low compared to my old x3 NFC . That with the Bluetooth audio dropouts , crappy camera .. only good thing about it is the screen lol
I am happy for now, aside from the camera it's still an upgrade from my MiA2 and it cost me less than a decent dinner in a restaurant.

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