Can anyone confirm whether the Google Project Fi version is bootloader unlockable? I've been using Samsung Galaxy S5 and Note 3 for years simply because I can unlock them and run lineageOS. Those phones are getting pretty long in the tooth and I wanted to switch carriers to Project Fi anyway.
I can confirm that I was able to bootoader unlock my FI G6. The process was the same as a retail us variant.
Mine unlocked just fine. Have to get key from Motorola.
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I purchased a factory unlocked Moto X. I'm trying to use softcard with AT&T. However, after going through registration and choosing a pin, the app reports that it isn't compatible with my phone.
Based on what I've read, you have to have an carrier locked phone and it might be looking at the CID (not 100% of this). Is there any way to change or fake the CID? Is there anyway to get softcard working on an unlocked phone? Or can I just install the AT&T android version?
I'm wondering the same thing except I have a Verizon LG G2 (VS980) to use on T-mobile. I talked to someone at softcard tech support who told me that I could only use softcard with a T-mobile branded phone because "unlocked" phones are not supported. The LG G2 comes unlocked with both CDMA an GSM radios from the factory and it isn't an aftermarket unlock.
I have 3 phones on T-mobile and none of them are T-mobile. I guess not allowing softcard on other brand's phones is just another way to get people to buy T-mobile's overpriced phones. Hopefully someone knows a workaround because there are some really good softcard promos. Would also love information about using softcard with an AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note 3 on T-mobile.
I'm not sure about your question specifically.... But you would need an unlocked bootloader to attempt anything like that. ?
Hello,
A week or so ago, I signed up for Project Fi and I plan to switch over to it as soon as I receive notification (which could be months away I'm guessing). In the mean time I have some questions:
- I am currently on AT&T using an unlocked, rooted Note 3 which has been paid off. I thought since Project Fi uses the Nexus 6, I may as well go ahead and purchase a Nexus 6 while I wait for my invitation. I have a couple of choices:
- On the Project Fi web site, it looks like the phone purchase is $500, however, on AT&T, if I sign up for the installment plan of 2 years, based upon my monthly service and data rate, the phone works out to $480. I can either use the AT&T Nexus 6 until I'm approved, OR I can use the Google Nexus 6.
My question is, is there any difference between the Nexus 6 from AT&T and the one offered by Google? Are there any frequency bands not supported on the AT&T version? Can the AT&T version be 'rooted'? I have read on the Google site about their phone having a SIM card to support multiple networks. I have also read that the Google version will use a combination of Sprint, T-Mobile, and WiFi and I'm not sure if the AT&T version would do all of the this even with the special SIM card?
Thanks in advance!
They are all the same and unlockable, SIM card will be the only difference and activate whichever bands needed.... I think they send a new SIM for FI.
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an21281 said:
They are all the same and unlockable, SIM card will be the only difference and activate whichever bands needed.... I think they send a new SIM for FI.
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Thanks for this... What about 'bloatware'? Do you know if one model has less than the other?
The AT&T variant is the only Nexus to be SIM locked. If you do next, you will need to pay the phone off before you can obtain the unlock code. If you don't want to do that, and have the money, get it from Google. Less hassle in the long run.
Source: Made the mistake of buying my Nexus from AT&T, currently getting the runaround getting the SIM unlocked.
@gil_happy, @an21281, @Blackiedamus,
I have a AT&T N6 and am currently on Fi. And AT&T did supply the carrier unlock code.
But, here's the deal. If you purchase an AT&T version (even from a 3rd party), and even if it's paid off, the device has to be activated for 30 days on the account before they will supply the unlock code.
And it the device is not paid off (i.e. under contract), AT&T will not supply the carrier unlock code.
I've had my nexus since new years day. I've bought out my contract but am still having issues getting it unlocked.
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I've had my nexus since new years day. I've bought out my contract but am still having issues getting it unlocked.
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When you talk to AT&T tech support, have they explained why?
They told me that because my line was bought under concession for employees, they're having issues finding my IMEI to provide the unlock code.
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Blackiedamus said:
They told me that because my line was bought under concession for employees, they're having issues finding my IMEI to provide the unlock code.
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Wow. Never heard that one before. Good luck.
Thanks everyone for all of this information... So the ROM on ATT N6 and the ROM on the Google version of N6 will be the same? Either way, it seems like the safest and best bet is to go through Google to purchase the N6 even if it is slightly more expensive (because there is no subsidized service).
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So the ROM on ATT N6 and the ROM on the Google version of N6 will be the same?
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No. The AT&T version will probably have LMY47Z (or possibly LMY47I). The ROM on the N6 that you purchase with Fi from Google will have LVY48E. Doesn't matter, though. Because you can fastboot flash whichever ROM you want, on either device.
The key point for you should be this: if you buy it subsidized from AT&T, you will not be able to get a carrier unlock code from them. Device has to be paid off first. And hence, you will not be able to use the Project Fi SIM card....
Decided to pay for an unlock code. Found on for $13 online and put it in and now I'm unlocked. Not gonna port my number til I know that fi works for me in my area. ATT and Verizon are the best with T-Mobile and sprint having issues where I am. But I haven't had either in my area in years so gonna be hopeful. You can always get it subsidized and buy an unlock code. ATT will be none the wiser unless you port your number. Good luck.
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If possible avoid carrier locked phone. I bought mine from google and running two lines (ATT and fi) for time being. Just testing out the fi service before I transfer my primary number.
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Hello all,
My Nexus 6p seems to have that Bootlooping issue, but I bought it at Best Buy so i can't RMA it. My plan is to make a Fi account for 1 month, buy a Moto X4 Android one edition, send my dead nexus 6p back to google (the trade in asks if it powers on not if it successfully boots), and then use the Moto X4 on Verizon. Has anyone successfully been using the android one version on Verizon and if so how well does it. Work? Also am i able to sign up for Fi for one month and then cancel it?
It supports all the correct LTE bands, so it should be theoretically compatible. Whether Verizon will accept it or not is another matter.
Yes, it works perfectly (if you already have an activated Verizon SIM card). To the point where VVM is built-in to the phone app and it supports HD calling.
You also don't even have to pay for a month of Fi. When you receive the phone, immediately put in your Verizon SIM card without booting up the phone, and you're good. Fi only starts charging when you activate the Fi SIM card.
Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering if both could be used. I already have Project Fi, and if this phone is dual-sim, could I put a data-only Verizon SIM in it to supplement the Fi coverage?
Fi uses T-mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular towers. If I were to add Verizon into the mix for an extra $20/month, that would probably be the best coverage possible, right?
Can confirm VoLTE and visual voicemail works out of the box. I haven't run into any issues as of yet :fingers-crossed:
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Actually, now that I think about it, I'm wondering if both could be used. I already have Project Fi, and if this phone is dual-sim, could I put a data-only Verizon SIM in it to supplement the Fi coverage?
Fi uses T-mobile, Sprint, and US Cellular towers. If I were to add Verizon into the mix for an extra $20/month, that would probably be the best coverage possible, right?
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The x4 I just received from Fi does not have a dual sim slot. The slot has room for 1 sim and 1 micro sd card. I have both inserted and the tray is full.
Does the verizon version come with a dual-sim option? Do they also allow a micro sd card?
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Does the verizon version come with a dual-sim option? Do they also allow a micro sd card?
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None of the US carriers have announced they will carry the Moto X4 yet. I'd expect an announcement sometime after their earnings call this quarter if they did. I doubt they would allow dual sim on their network though. As far as a dual sim in North America, the XT1900-7 is listed as a dual-sim but idk if it's passed the FCC yet.
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Motorola Moto X4 TD-LTE NA 32GB XT1900-1
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE APAC 64GB XT1900-2
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Motorola Moto X4 LTE-A LATAM 32GB XT1900-4
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE EMEA 32GB XT1900-5
Motorola Moto X4 HDTV Dual SIM LTE-A LATAM 64GB XT1900-6
Motorola Moto X4 Dual SIM TD-LTE AM 32GB XT1900-7
Hey all thanks for the replies. FYI i ended up jumping on the Beat Buy Essential Phone $100 off deal, but its good to know if im in the market for a phone again sooner than i would hope....
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Yes, it works perfectly (if you already have an activated Verizon SIM card). To the point where VVM is built-in to the phone app and it supports HD calling.
You also don't even have to pay for a month of Fi. When you receive the phone, immediately put in your Verizon SIM card without booting up the phone, and you're good. Fi only starts charging when you activate the Fi SIM card.
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Quick question, if you put the Verizon sim in first, won't it update the software to make unlocking the bootloader impossible later on? I thought I read to make sure before you use the Verizon network, that you boot the phone either without the sim on wifi or with a sim from something other than Verizon so you could update the software an unlock the bootloader before Verizon slammed the door shut on you. If that's incorrect please enlighten, because I'm thinking of getting this phone to use on Verizon to replace my moto x pure.
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Quick question, if you put the Verizon sim in first, won't it update the software to make unlocking the bootloader impossible later on? I thought I read to make sure before you use the Verizon network, that you boot the phone either without the sim on wifi or with a sim from something other than Verizon so you could update the software an unlock the bootloader before Verizon slammed the door shut on you. If that's incorrect please enlighten, because I'm thinking of getting this phone to use on Verizon to replace my moto x pure.
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This has not been the case, for me on Verizon, with a Moto X Pure Edition 2015, a Nexus 6P and a Moto Z2 Play (US Unlocked).
I have unlocked the bootloader and rooted all three.
Google Fi is currently doing a promo where you can buy two X4 phones for $249 each and get a $249 bill credit (so each phone effectively costs $125). I'm currently on Verizon with a (forever) locked Moto Z Droid and am interested in getting away. I just want to be clear on what limitations (if any) there are on the Fi variant. There are some threads from last year, but I didn't know if anything had changed since then, hence the thread (and I'd like the answers all in one spot, anyway).
The US a single hardware variant (XT1900-1) with two software versions (Payton and Payton Fi), correct? I assume this means you can flash ROMs for either on any XT1900-1 phone, but you'd lose Fi capability if you used the non-Fi ROM. Yes?
It's my understanding that the Fi variant is also SIM unlocked and supports both CDMA and GSM bands, so I could leave Fi and use it with another carrier. Is this correct?
Finally - and most importantly - is the Fi variant bootloader unlockable and rootable? I'm guessing that new X4s ship with Oreo, but I don't know if it'll be 8.0 or 8.1. I just want to make sure that it's rootable.
TIA!
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The US a single hardware variant (XT1900-1) with two software versions (Payton and Payton Fi), correct? I assume this means you can flash ROMs for either on any XT1900-1 phone, but you'd lose Fi capability if you used the non-Fi ROM. Yes?
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Yes you can flash either. There's official TWRP support now FYI. I'm not sure on what Fi features are lost if any.
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It's my understanding that the Fi variant is also SIM unlocked and supports both CDMA and GSM bands, so I could leave Fi and use it with another carrier. Is this correct?
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Finally - and most importantly - is the Fi variant bootloader unlockable and rootable? I'm guessing that new X4s ship with Oreo, but I don't know if it'll be 8.0 or 8.1. I just want to make sure that it's rootable.
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Bootloader is unlockable but you have to get the code via Motorola website, still simple. Root methods have been established.
No Fi features should be lost. These features are tied to the SIM card and email account I believe. I'd go for the deal being offered. My opinion.
Project Fi with Moto X4
I have had forever a Nexus 5x, now a Moto X4, and a Pixel 2. All bought through project Fi. Here in Moto X4 land if you research through posts that this phone is not one with high numbers of owners. I have found that if you want good not great Project Fi switching the Moto X4 is behind my Pixel 2 but ahead of my Nexus 5x. A app that works on phone for manual switching is "Signal Info" it uses manual dialer codes to switch carriers. I have found that on my Moto X4 US Cellular is the strongest here at home but for some reason US cellular wants to cause my Moto X4 to drop down to Sprint, then if I am in a Excellent T-Mobile area it keeps until complete drop out and then prioritizes to Sprint and I have to manual switch to US Cellular.
With TWRP official and Root I haven't yet decided to Unlock yet. If a wanted Magisk module is available I want to add; that is when I may decide. I have found though that Project Fi support is only on Stock/Not Rooted support. I was hoping that the Android One variant would be better in updating but we are really One upgrade cycle behind it appears. As of yesterday still on Mar 1 security updates and 8.0 updates.
On SIM card, I can use the same SIM to switch from all 3 phones. I may get a few old SMS, MMS and recorded messages in switching but very easy to do. I have only one Fi account though. I have found that custom ROM's in Nexus 5x that the Project Fi apk must be loaded at Gapps time and unless you use a full, or aroma to allow Project Fi install the SIM card alone will not work. Permissions get weird and screwed up.
The Unlocked Pixel 5 devices are out of stock in Google store. The Google Fi devices are in stock, but I can't find the answers to 2 questions. One, is the bootloader unlockable in the Fi, and the phone rootable with Magisk, and Two, does the Fi model support AT&T's n5 5G band, because I will be using it with AT&T, not the Fi network setup. Thanks for answers, when I do searches for this subject on this forum, all I get are custom ROM results.
Yes, yes.. Google Fi phone is exactly the same.. They just give you a Fi sim.. Ditch it.