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S Voice > Google on Note 4

I've used S Voice and Google for 4 days each and in my opinion S Voice is the clear winner. Here's my top 5:
1) S Voice has very reliable always-on service whereas Google occasionally will glitch and stop responding to the wake up command until I reboot the Note 4.
2) S Voice accepts way more commands.
3) S Voice can perform functions and execute them instead of just bringing you to them. For example if you say "wake me up at 6:30AM" it will set the alarm for you, whereas Google brings up the page and you have to click "set alarm."
4) S Voice has a funny AI. You can say "Will you marry me?" and it will reply with "I would make a terrible spouse" or say "yeah baby" and it will respond with "I'm not your baby." Funny stuff.
5) S Voice has more secure always-on service because it allows you to pick the wake command so you can make your command,"I like pie" and it will work, whereas Google currently only supports "OK Google" which everyone knows from the commercials, and if you want to set it to work even if your phone is locked, you want a wake command that people are less likely to know.
What have your experiences been thus far?

To be honest I haven't given S Voice a try yet. I was surprises than Google Now works because in Poland it had very little support, but now it let me set an alarm and everything, nice. But I can't set Google Now to wake the phone - for some reason the option for it is turned off, maybe S Voice will work like that.

The new pop-up window is nice too, any app will stay open and S-Voice just pops up and closes down. Makes more sense than opening up a whole new page. Quite accurate understanding English as well.

Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?

Nice to know they improved s voice. It used to be inferior to google voice on the note 3. I might give it a try again.

Rippley05 said:
Oh, nice. Does it affect battery?
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Nope. I had S Voice a and Google Now always listening and had no noticable effect on battery life. I didn't really use'em but it did come handy at one or two occasions. I think it's efficient operation comes down to that extra chip both the SD805 and I think the Exynos variant has.

I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.

FuzzRaven said:
I love the S-voice and wanna use it all the time but I wish I can pull up the S-voice anytime with voice. I know it's easy double tapping the home button but Google can be pulled up anywhere with voice.
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So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.

For voice to wake. In my experience, it only halfway works to. Maybe it's because I use a custom command...but voice rarely wake it up.

Rippley05 said:
So can s-voice. It's in the settings. You can also turn on voice wake while locked.
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Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.

FuzzRaven said:
Maybe I'm missing it but the only option I can find is waking it up with voice while locked (voice wake-up option) nothing for when the screen is on, even on the home screen. The only way to pull it up is by double tapping home button.
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Huh? Look at that picture I posted. Check that option, then say "hi galaxy" or whatever you set your command to be and it'll wake up. It doesn't work all that well when you use a custom command.

Here

Rippley05 said:
Here
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Thanks for posting those photos and instructions! But I already have both enabled even before I came to this post and it still would NOT take voice commands when you have the screen on, as in not on the lockscreen (or as I found out, also when you're using any app) but when you're in the home screen. Both those options are only for use when you're on the lockscreen or when the phone is sleeping. Now that I think about it, maybe it's because of my use of Nova Prime that's hindering the S-Voice to be invoked on the main home screen though...

The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that

Patch7 said:
The thing that i don't like is even though svoice turns on when i say hi galaxy, i still have to push the mic button to say my command. Google voice doesnt so that
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You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.

FuzzRaven said:
You don't need to push the mic button to issue your command. If you ran out of time to say your command, all you have to do is to say your wake up phrase again and it should accept your voice command then.
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Thanks! That works great. Love it!!

I use svoice for making calls through by bluetooth headset. It works much much much better than google voice. Google voice is no more than a joke when you have non-english names, whereas svoice still does a great job. Another thing I love with SVoice is that it also utilizes the nicknames in your adress book. So you can use either the full name or the nickname.

This is very interesting. I must admit I completely ignored S-Voice when I bought the Note 4, as it wasn't brilliant on the Note 3. I also had got so used to Google's voice functions which did impress.
I just caught this thread and whoa! Samsung really have made some great changes to S-Voice on the Note 4 and I think I might actually start using it a bit more. So thanks for posting your observations

Samsung S-Voice command examples
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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apprentice said:
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I took the trouble to type out all the available S-Voice examples, along with a few added examples for UK or International users. I hope you find it useful.
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Awesome stuff! Thanks man. This confirms my suspicions that you cannot use s-voice to switch on mobile hotspot

Removing the dreaded Bixby

So the title explains itself, is there a rom or any way to remove Bixby completely, maybe even remapping that button? I've even switched the Bixby button off but still brings it up with the button some how. I wish Samsung would stop the pushing for Bixby since ive heard nothing good about it.

There are many threads and YouTube videos about the benefits of bixby.

mickeydels1 said:
So the title explains itself, is there a rom or any way to remove Bixby completely, maybe even remapping that button? I've even switched the Bixby button off but still brings it up with the button some how. I wish Samsung would stop the pushing for Bixby since ive heard nothing good about it.
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Get BK Package Disabler and disable all instances, 5 or 6, of Bixby. There are more than one remapping apps in the Play Store but unless they improved you will get lag especially in the gallery app.

csabasalas said:
I think that google assistant is much useful than bixby
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There are also threads and videos explaining why the two are different but work well together.

I bought a case with rubberized buttons, then shaved off the Bixby button. I also disabled it through the Bixby app itself. So no more accidental presses, but I can deliberately squeeze out a long press if I really needed to. It's supposed to still activate Bixby voice I think, but the only time it tries is if I am in a text field and deliberately try to push it. Except that doesn't do anything either, I think because I'm not using Samsung keyboard. In other words I'm happy with my setup, and for all purposes basically removed it physically via the case.

"Hey Google" on Note 8

I'm just curious why the Note 8 has to use only OK Google and can't use Hey Google for waking up Google assistant. I really liked it when the option became available for my Note 5. Now its gone.... is it maybe because of Bixby? Doesn't seem like it would be the reason because we had S voice on the note 5 and they never conflicted.

I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.

shouren04 said:
I don't remember the option to be able to use "Hey Google" instead of "Ok Google" on my Note 5. But then again I never really used Google Assistant.
I just looked at my Note 5, I don't see that option, was that able to be changed using the Retrain Voice Model option? If yes, that option is still there on my Note 8, just in a different menu.
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Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.

gregcapps said:
Nope when you retrain the voice model, it only accepts OK Google....trust me.
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Yea its aggravating. Too bad it couldn't be like the gear s3 and train it to wake up on whatever command you want.

I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.

mkclarke said:
I'm following this thread... I was thinking that the 'hey google' option was now available with the upgrade to Android 8.
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Nope. Irritating.

@Venom0642 do you have any idea why there's no option to use the hey Google wake up command for Google assistant on the note 8. Makes no sense to me. It's a more advanced device yet somehow it can't handle that?? Yet the Note5 could?
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You should be able to. However I'm using a Pixel 2 XL that might make a difference

I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.

wnp_79 said:
I'm guessing it's because they don't want it confusing "Hey Bixby" or their marketing team think they need to keep some sort of distance between the two assistants.
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Well....it worked with Svoice just fine. The wake up command for Bixby is "Hi Bixby" which can't be customized either. Which is also a step backwards from Svoice, because I could set the wakeup to anything I wanted on my Note5.
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In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.

HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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The s9 recently got the "hey google" as a wake up command..... so here's hoping it comes soon since the note 8 follows the s9 in some respects.

HyperEscape said:
In the same boat. After some stumbling here and there, I guess this option is device specific and only enabled or available on certain "select" devices which allow or would prompt to install the latest limited version of g-assistant.
https://assistant.google.com/platforms/phones/
Surprising to see Samsung Note 8 being a dominant white elephant in the room is casually ignored.
Even Samsung guides us to use the "Ok google" hotword as of now
https://www.samsung.com/us/support/answer/ANS00077672/
https://www.samsung.com/ca/support/mobile-devices/how-do-i-set-up-use-google-assistant-galaxy-note8/
Keeping fingers crossed.
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Just fyi, I've finally got the hey google hot word to work. I'm on CRJ3 currently. I had retrain the voice model. I tried just saying Hey Google on the last two and now it works great.

N950N Review

Since my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910C had been starting to develop issues, while I am in Hong Kong. Which was probably due to the latest OS updates. Or it could be due to the fact that my N910C doesn't support the use of LTE-A bands, which HK Cell Providers are starting to adopt. I decided to upgrade to the Note 8. I managed to find the Korean N950N model with 256GB of internal storage for an excellent price. The only catch was that they only had it in Deep Sea Blue and they didn't know when they would get the Midnight Black version back in stock. I bite the bullet and got it. The shop owner was nice enough to give me a slight discount. He also installed a case friendly screen protector that didn't work very well with the Spigen Tough Armor. It is not too much of a problem. Just that the part that protects the sensors pop loose from time to time. I am amaze at how fast the Note 8 running, it can handle anything I throw it's way like it was nothing. The placement of the fingerprint scanner isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The iris scanner is pretty good when I have my Note 8 positioned properly. I was able to transfer everything(except my UK Whatsapp account) from my N910C to my N950N using Smartswitch , which was incredible. The Secure Folder is useful for storing my personal files and apps, I managed to put my UK Whatsapp number in there.
The only downside is that some of the old S Note features are now gone! I can no longer take a picture and have it converted into an editable document like in my N910C. Which was a very useful feature, I guess that Samsung must have removed it.

You can install the old S Note app, search for it

Hello,
How much does it cost?

The s note app? it is free

iceepyon said:
Since my Samsung Galaxy Note 4 N910C had been starting to develop issues, while I am in Hong Kong. Which was probably due to the latest OS updates. Or it could be due to the fact that my N910C doesn't support the use of LTE-A bands, which HK Cell Providers are starting to adopt. I decided to upgrade to the Note 8. I managed to find the Korean N950N model with 256GB of internal storage for an excellent price. The only catch was that they only had it in Deep Sea Blue and they didn't know when they would get the Midnight Black version back in stock. I bite the bullet and got it. The shop owner was nice enough to give me a slight discount. He also installed a case friendly screen protector that didn't work very well with the Spigen Tough Armor. It is not too much of a problem. Just that the part that protects the sensors pop loose from time to time. I am amaze at how fast the Note 8 running, it can handle anything I throw it's way like it was nothing. The placement of the fingerprint scanner isn't as bad as I thought it would be. The iris scanner is pretty good when I have my Note 8 positioned properly. I was able to transfer everything(except my UK Whatsapp account) from my N910C to my N950N using Smartswitch , which was incredible. The Secure Folder is useful for storing my personal files and apps, I managed to put my UK Whatsapp number in there.
The only downside is that some of the old S Note features are now gone! I can no longer take a picture and have it converted into an editable document like in my N910C. Which was a very useful feature, I guess that Samsung must have removed it.
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With WhatsApp, I periodically back it up to Google account. Then use smartswitch which works good.
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Sorry for being unclear, but I meant the price of the note 8 256gb in Korea?

smiley213 said:
Hello,
How much does it cost?
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I paid HK$5699 for my N950N, which converts to GB£518. Which is a steal! As the 256gb UK model of the Note 8 cost around £900

winol said:
You can install the old S Note app, search for it
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Tried it. But even that doesn't have the photo note function. Which is strange as the S Note app on my N910C has been updated to the latest version, and it still has the photo note function.

After installing the Oreo update. I noticed that one of my games Texas Hold'em Poker 3 no longer takes up the full screen when it loads. Even if I have the game set to fit the entire screen. Other than that everything looks the same. Except the Settings Menu has been brought up to the S9S series GUI. There maybe some performance increase but I didn't notice any.

Still rocking my N950N. Even after the release of the N960N. My N950N is still a beast. The camera quality is excellent despite being a single aperture lens.

Just installed the Android Pie update for my N950N. I have noticed that when my device boots up it takes a few seconds longer for the keyboard to appear for me to enter my password. Besides that everythings seems pretty snappy. I am not fond of the One UI. I prefer Samsung UI, which came with Nougat and Oreo. One UI seems way too cartoony. The buttons and icons for all the Samsung apps seem to be designed with kids in mind. I like that you can just use swipe gestures to navigate the device, which eliminates the need for navigation buttons.
I have also discovered that the game launcher doesn't include the stretch to full screen option anymore, which is a shame as that worked fir stretching games to full the display very well. Figured out how to fix this problem in the Settings Menu.

Just discovered that you can no longer disable Bixby once you have installed the Pie update onto the Note 8. :crying::crying:

iceepyon said:
Just discovered that you can no longer disable Bixby once you have installed the Pie update onto the Note 8. :crying::crying:
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But you can now remap the button to any app you want.
Now there is a option for a single press and a double press.
Just got the Bixby update.
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Know I have Google search open up when I single press instead of Bixby and if I want Bixby double press.
But holding down the Bixby button will bring up Bixby voice command.
Have you tried a third party app to disable it?

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BluePhnx said:
But you can now remap the button to any app you want.
Now there is a option for a single press and a double press.
Just got the Bixby update.
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Know I have Google search open up when I single press instead of Bixby and if I want Bixby double press.
But holding down the Bixby button will bring up Bixby voice command.
Have you tried a third party app to disable it?
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I found out about that. But I want to disable that button completely as I probably won't ever use it. I might try a 3rd party app

Anyone noticed bixby voice password feature is missing? On oreo if the phone is locked, u can use bixby to do something, and unlock phone via voice password. Now it'll just ask u to enter pin or pattern
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vash_h said:
Anyone noticed bixby voice password feature is missing? On oreo if the phone is locked, u can use bixby to do something, and unlock phone via voice password. Now it'll just ask u to enter pin or pattern
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Go to Bixby voice settings and tap on voice wake up. It's there, look at my previous post with screenshots you can set the option.
If not there update Bixby.
Now the feature does it like Google style with voice unlock. Meaning it just unlocks when you say "Hi Bixby" without asking you for a voice password.
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BluePhnx said:
Go to Bixby voice settings and tap on voice wake up. It's there, look at my previous post with screenshots you can set the option.
If not there update Bixby.
Now the feature does it like Google style with voice unlock. Meaning it just unlocks when you say "Hi Bixby" without asking you for a voice password.
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No it doesn't. Yes Bixby will function when you say hi Bixby.. but when tiu ask it to do something, like close all apps, it will prompt you to enter your pattern or whatever you set to unlock the screen
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vash_h said:
No it doesn't. Yes Bixby will function when you say hi Bixby.. but when tiu ask it to do something, like close all apps, it will prompt you to enter your pattern or whatever you set to unlock the screen
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Make sure you update Bixby. I just tried that command close all apps and it worked without asking for password.
This the version of Bixby I'm on.

BluePhnx said:
Make sure you update Bixby. I just tried that command close all apps and it worked without asking for password.
This the version of Bixby I'm on.
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Same version. Have u tried it?View attachment 4715718View attachment 4715719
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Bixby button not working as remapable button anymore

Hey folks, I had reddit on my remapable button for Bixby for single press and double press is Bixby, but something happened yesterday out of the blue and it is not working anymore and it launches Bixby on single press and its frozen. Tried to re do the whole process nothing got fixed, restarted the phone, nothing, I do not have any new software, I sont use games I dont use almost anything except Google stuff like calendar and keep, some things like viber, Skype, WhatsApp, a bibble, or scanner and reddit... so the idea is I should not have anything to break my phone in my eyes, but I just also remembered there were Samsung updates yesterday in the Samsung store, for the apps and Bixby was one of them, has any one had similar issues, and do you know a fix?

Nobody?

I got the update for Bixby & related applications. At first, the single click of bixby button did launch the bixby assistant. Then I went to settings & disabled>enabled it & it worked good again.
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abhichak93 said:
I got the update for Bixby & related applications. At first, the single click of bixby button did launch the bixby assistant. Then I went to settings & disabled>enabled it & it worked good again.
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Thank you mate, it did not work from the first time but I did it few times on and off and it eventually got fixed. Cheers!

tixooo said:
Thank you mate, it did not work from the first time but I did it few times on and off and it eventually got fixed. Cheers!
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Great [emoji106]
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Remove the whole thing completely if you are rooted
I never used bixby

go to that post and remove it completely^^
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
Edit: And you dont need root for that^^

TheUndertaker21 said:
Remove the whole thing completely if you are rooted
I never used bixby
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bilrage said:
go to that post and remove it completely^^
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/galaxy-s10-s10-debloat-bloatware-t3912073
Edit: And you dont need root for that^^
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If you totally remove bixby can you still remap the button?
For example I disabled bixby using package disabler pro and seem to be having issues remapping...

Yes, I use bxActions for that.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...-bxactions-remap-bixby-button-single-t3832301
For me it works great. Action Shortpress is Display off and lang press Google Assistant.

After updating, I had to go through the Bixby setup the first time I hit the button but after that I'm back to normal on a single press.