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MHL - does it have it?

I have the white Samsung mhl 2.0 dongle that I used with my S5 and Note 4.
The S6 family didn't support mhl, and wanted to know if the note 5 does.
Thank you.

At the risk of sounding stupid....What is MHL??
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Android_Fr3ak said:
At the risk of sounding stupid....What is MHL??
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MHL cables (dongles) are used to connect the phone direct via cable to an HDMI TV, basically screen mirroring minus the lag from chromcast type wireless devices.
all of Samsungs phones until the S6 used MHL, but then they stopped...so I was wondering if theres any official document showing if the Note will have it.

They stopped? Wth?

TheNamelessMan said:
MHL cables (dongles) are used to connect the phone direct via cable to an HDMI TV, basically screen mirroring minus the lag from chromcast type wireless devices.
all of Samsungs phones until the S6 used MHL, but then they stopped...so I was wondering if theres any official document showing if the Note will have it.
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i just read another post, the S6 is not supported, also want to know if the latest S6+ Edge supported or not.

The note 5 does not support mhl. You cannot connect it to the tv with a wired connection.

You can connect your phone directly to your computer for free and watch videos see pi
You can connect your phone directly to your computer for free and watch videos see pictures do everything with your keyboard and mouse
Samsung Smartphone (Samsung Galaxy S5) Screen Mirroring/Casting SideSync to PC/Laptop/Computer HD - YouTube
IT WORKS ON NOTE 5 !!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3quCSsTNMbg

Dex Pad w/ Note 8?

The Dex Pad was announced with the S9 & S9+. It looks like a better solution for me (more portable), but according to the list of compatible devices on the Samsung website:
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-pad-ee-m5100tbegus/, it does not appear that it would work with the my Note 8.
Does anyone have any information on this?

Support after Oreo update
Was wondering the same thing. Only clarification I found is on http://www.samsung.com/global/galaxy/apps/samsung-dex/

Good find--thank you! Looks like we may need to wait for Oreo for the Dex Pad to work with our Note 8s.

There is a link in OP. If you scroll all way down and read the fine print, It clearly says:
1HDMI cable, monitor, keyboard and mouse sold separately. To utilize DeX (Galaxy Desktop) it requires either DeX Pad or DeX Station, both are sold separately. Works with compatible devices. Screen images simulated. Certain apps may not run or require license(for purchase) on Samsung DeX. Dex Pad supports Galaxy S9/S9+ only. (Galaxy S8/S8+ and Note8 may be supported later with OS update).
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rabilancia said:
The Dex Pad was announced with the S9 & S9+. It looks like a better solution for me (more portable), but according to the list of compatible devices on the Samsung website:
https://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/mobile-accessories/phones/dex-pad-ee-m5100tbegus/, it does not appear that it would work with the my Note 8.
Does anyone have any information on this?
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It looks like the pad will only work if you have Android O, so there is going to be a bit of a wait there.

Curious if Spen from note 9 will be compatible with Note8

Curious if Spen from note 9 will be compatible with Note8
Phone seems to be the same it has only slightly bigger display

klisza1993 said:
Curious if Spen from note 9 will be compatible with Note8
Phone seems to be the same it has only slightly bigger display
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If you're talking about the button, to push to launch camera and take photos and such, then no. The pen sends a trigger to the phone via bluetooth and the firmware on the phone then translate them to certain functions. It won't work out of the box, but it might be possible to port the features through custom ROMS. I'm not 100% on that, though.

With a custom ROM maybe, but it won't be able to charge. It should work as a normal Spen though, so if you dig the bright yellow (why?) you can use it for aesthetic reasons. No bluetooth functions on stock though, and no charging.

The BT S Pen is pretty useless to me. I would never pull my S Pen and take a shot I can just use bixby voice for camera.

Pretty curious too id love to get my hands on that yellow spen and put it in my note 8 xd because i think we would be able to port most of the features of the note 9 with a custom rom im only wondering could we be able to use the new spen ?

This is a pretty dumb question lmao... you think Samsung would allow Note 8 users to buy the S pen separately and have it work on the note 8? That defeats the whole purpose of the hardware changes in the note 9.

ZyroKewl said:
Pretty curious too id love to get my hands on that yellow spen and put it in my note 8 xd because i think we would be able to port most of the features of the note 9 with a custom rom im only wondering could we be able to use the new spen
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If I'm not mistaken, I believe the Note9 SPen is a tiny, tiny bit bigger than the Note8's, so it might not fit in the SPen dock. Also, as niallasher said, it won't be able to charge on your Note8, so it would be pretty pointless, anyway. You'd need a Note9 to charge it, in which case, you might as well get and use a Note9.

The new note 9 spen has a capacitor in it that is charged when inside the note 9 itself. I would doubt that charge port would exist in the note 8, then you would end up with just a yellow spen.
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Probably not. If you want to use the Note 9's Spen features then no. It will probably work as a regular Spen

I tried in a Samsung store the Note9 s Pen and no detection on my Note8. I could try everything, trigger Air command or just use it to swipe pages, it doesn't work. I think that it can't be used on older Note devices

Yes, spen from note9 is charaged from inside a phone. But i think it is done by wirless charaging so what if you will use wirless charager to charage a phone and maybe it also work for spen itself.
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Maybe its done by software.

I'm wondering if it uses the same technology as the one that detects the phone.

@deepseaturtle: Did you have your N8 Spen removed/taken out when trying the N9 Spen, or disable the Spen Power Saver feature?

It was out indeed because I wanted to see if it fits inside and the only option that was turned on about S Pen detection is the alarm when it's far from the phone

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It was out indeed because I wanted to see if it fits inside and the only option that was turned on about S Pen detection is the alarm when it's far from the phone
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Wait did you try to put the note 9spen in our phone? Did it fit?

ZyroKewl said:
Wait did you try to put the note 9spen in our phone? Did it fit?
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The store put an anti-theft system on the Pen so I wasn't able to put it fully, but it seems to fit somehow on the phone

deepseaturtle said:
I tried in a Samsung store the Note9 s Pen and no detection on my Note8. I could try everything, trigger Air command or just use it to swipe pages, it doesn't work. I think that it can't be used on older Note devices
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I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.

BluePhnx said:
I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.
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Damn ? i was thinking of buying that yellow spen and using it on note 8 i was thinking all of those Bluetooth features are software and can be ported on custom roms

BluePhnx said:
I just tried the note 9 spen on my note 8 and it work like a regular note 8 spen. Can write, go through screens, etc. But the bluetooth functions nope it won't work. And the n9 spen is taller then the n8 spen so it's going to stick out of the note 8.
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Thanks !!
So I assume the S Pen was either not detected by my phone or I did this wrong.
So now we can be sure it works !

Note 9 S Pen work on the Note 8

I was wondering if the New Note 9 S Pen will work and fit with the Note 8. I have a Note 8 and love it. From what I have read of the Note 9 specs, there is little need for me to upgrade.
Much larger battery
Slightly larger screen but same resolution
Better camera but its only better because of the updated software
More drive space
And an S Pen that (shoots freakin laser beams) has Bluetooth support
Those are great upgrades, but I do not feel like spending close to $1000 two years in a row. I kept the Note 7 S Pens when I returned the explosive phones multiple times in case I wanted backups. They work fine with the Note 8 even though their spec were supposed to be slightly upgraded. I would love it if I could get my hands on an Note 9 S Pen and be able to use it with my Note 8 without having to buy a whole new phone. I especially love the feature of taking a picture with the S Pen.
Does anybody have any thoughts or insight on this?

Looking at the Note 9 S-Pen I doubt all the functionalities will work with the N8, like the S-Pen charging or even working as a Bluetooth device as with the N9. It may not even fit.
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it need be charged. i guess it cant be full working on note 8. when it was low/out of battery, it would become note 8 spen?

Find a way to charge the pen and I don't see why we can't use it with a note 8

kurrupt_1 said:
Looking at the Note 9 S-Pen I doubt all the functionalities will work with the N8, like the S-Pen charging or even working as a Bluetooth device as with the N9. It may not even fit.
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Yeah another poster said the new pen is longer than the one on the Note 8 so it may not fit or might stick out.

It would probably work as a normal S-Pen. But without the bluetooth functions.

I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.

Thanks for the feedback. That is a little disappointing but I guess I can wait. Samsung upgrades their phones just a little bit every year with just one great new feature to get me to consider the upgrade. Smart business plan. I wonder is a third party S Pen with Bluetooth will be developed to work with Note 8. That would be rad.

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I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.
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That's not right, I tried it at a Samsung store a couple days ago and it worked just fine as a plain EMR pen. I couldn't test fit since the pen was in a holder though.
Charging the pen capacitor likely won't work on a note 8, but it'll still work as a normal wacom pen.

The note 9 pen is bigger. It doesn't fit in the note 8

This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.

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This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.
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Not a dumb question and apparently it does work (but won't charge or fit in note 8 of course).

sefrcoko said:
Not a dumb question and apparently it does work (but won't charge or fit in note 8 of course).
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Lol in terms of being able to use it as a stylus I'm sure it works fine. The whole point of that note 9 pen is for the functions... if you can't charge the pen or fit it back into the phone wouldn't you say its supposed to be meant for the Note 9. It's a dumb question ...

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Lol in terms of being able to use it as a stylus I'm sure it works fine. The whole point of that note 9 pen is for the functions... if you can't charge the pen or fit it back into the phone wouldn't you say its supposed to be meant for the Note 9. It's a dumb question ...
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Of course the note 9 pen is meant for the note 9 lol, no one is questioning that . OP's question did lead to the clarifications on the level of interchangability between the note 8 and note 9 pens, which some found helpful. If you think it's dumb, well, thanks for telling us how you feel! Otherwise, I don't see any added value there... Moving on [emoji41]

sefrcoko said:
Of course the note 9 pen is meant for the note 9 lol, no one is questioning that . OP's question did lead to the clarifications on the level of interchangability between the note 8 and note 9 pens, which some found helpful. If you think it's dumb, well, thanks for telling us how you feel! Otherwise, I don't see any added value there... Moving on [emoji41]
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There's no value from what you're saying either. yea.. moving on lmao

Yes.. the pen fits well on both n8 and vice versa
Just not tested yet the blutooth function

thangbithit said:
I have tested on both the Note 8 and Note 9. They won't work with each other. The Note 9's S Pen can't do anything on the Note 8' screen, even it's just a little touch or swipe.
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There's actually a battery saving option on the Note phones that lets you turn off the S-Pen touch detection while the stylus is inside the phone. I noticed this as well at a store where the Note 8 pen didnt work on my Note 4 until I took out the pen from my Note 4. The option also exists on the Note 8. When you turn the option it off you can use your extra S-Pen's while the original is still inside the phone (I believe it's turned off by default actually, not sure though)

need to appear smart?
Dchoi229 said:
This is a really dumb question. You think samsung would allow note 8 users to use the note 9 pen... theres a whole reason why they're pushing the note 9. It's not even the same internals anymore.
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That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.

MightyMinski said:
That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.
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Never tried to "appear" to look smart. Just stating something that's obvious. I don't see why the pen wouldn't work in terms of navigating through the phone with the actual touch of the stylus. The functionalities obvs wouldnt work. Anyways I'm moving on. Peace.

MightyMinski said:
That is a really dumb answer. I could say for example newer MS surface pens are working on older devices; so why not asking if the newer note pen works on older devices. But that is not my point. The point is rather that your need to appear smart by degrading others.
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Point taken. For some this is a learned behavior. Still, it is emotional abuse. I would watch that kind of language. This is a great community. It would be even sad to lose someone to emotional abuse or harassment. Make no mistake. It will not be tolerated. Take the high road. Be the better person. Peace.

Has anyone read if the note 9 dex output can use a cheap usb c to hdmi dongle?

.. or if we need the samsung $50 version?
You can find them on amazon for $13 delivered, and that would be a great savings!

You should be able to use whatever cable. If course Samsung still tell you theirs is better...

That's what I hoped,but we needed to have someone actually try it, in case Samsung had some cool inside the single that's detected by the phone.

I was able to use them with the Note 8, just no Dex
I have been looking at getting one or two of these as they work with the Switch too!
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078W4RXG...olid=30A3054D7OQPG&psc=0&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it

If you are getting a note 9, can you try your cable when you get it and post here if it works? We don't really need it on launch day, but we would like one at some point, since my wife and myself will have the note 9s