Note 9. Dex - Samsung Galaxy Note 9 Questions & Answers

Has anyone used their Note 9 and the new dex? I can see why people would use it but does anyone really use it as a daily driver?

I'm using DeX as a main driver for productivity, but I'm not using Samsung's DeX station...

Also using Dex daily. At work using a 1st gen dock, at home a 3rd party usb hub.
It's great to replace my laptop. My only grief is not being able to open multiple instances of excel
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StardustGeass said:
I'm using DeX as a main driver for productivity, but I'm not using Samsung's DeX station...
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Are you using the new dongle?

Elite3k9 said:
Are you using the new dongle?
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Nope, I'm using a 3rd party one

Me too, Just the USB-C to HDMI adaptor but I got it for Around $10Aud...
I have the Dex pad and Station too but this is so much more mobile, no additional power needed... Just a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard...
Not sure how fast it will eat up the battery though....

So I want to connect my Razer mouse and keyboard currently connected to my main PC and monitor to my Note 9 when Dex'd via cable. I know i'll need a hub of some sort, so wanted some expertise on which hub to get, but also wanting to know the best way to set this up minimally.

Also looking at different Dex options for my note 9. already have a usb-C - HDMI adaptor that aslo has a usb-pass through power - (to charge the phone) - but no keyboard\mouse options as yet.
Without hijacking your thread, For me there are two requirements
1) Portable setup, simple hdmi dongle and small portalbe tablet bluetooth keyboard\mouse~ glide pad in built.
2) Permenant setup - like the new Dex Pad (or 3rd party - as Dex Pad doesnt have USB 3).
Sounds like your chasing more of #2 - but what I am wondering is do you want you razor keyboard and mouse to both permanently and always function connected to your PC - and have some kind of double adaptor\hub setup - that if you "do" plug in your Dex Phone - then without moving\unlplugging you K&B - they still work both on the PC and Dex at the same time? Is that right? Share 1 x K&M across both Dex and PC at the same time?
OR
When you plug in the dex - it "switches" all input fully over to dex [only]? cause I am not sure how if you type on the Keyboard its not going to send to both PC and DEX apps if its just on some kind of shared hub etc.

OzDruiD said:
2) Permenant setup - like the new Dex Pad (or 3rd party - as Dex Pad doesnt have USB 3).
Sounds like your chasing more of #2 - but what I am wondering is do you want you razor keyboard and mouse to both permanently and always function connected to your PC - and have some kind of double adaptor\hub setup - that if you "do" plug in your Dex Phone - then without moving\unlplugging you K&B - they still work both on the PC and Dex at the same time? Is that right? Share 1 x K&M across both Dex and PC at the same time? .
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Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Thats interesting idea, I think thou you would get input being sent to 'both' devices - so your typing into a spreadsheet on Excel via DEX, and your regular PC is also getting the same character input \ mouse movements sent to it - if it even worked via some kinda hub.

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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i think those kind of setup can be achieved with bluetooth keyboard and mouse that supports multiple device switch. for example, I'm using my logitech T630 as a mouse for both of them, and just switch if I want to use it on another device.

StardustGeass said:
Nope, I'm using a 3rd party one
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I need in

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Logitech has at least the mouse capabilities, saw it at Jbhifi.

globalgpj said:
Logitech has at least the mouse capabilities, saw it at Jbhifi.
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Yep, I owned a wireless/bluetooth Logitech mouse and keyboard, but switched it out for some wired Razer ones for that clickyness!

djinn415 said:
Yep, trying to get a more permanent solution where my keyboard and mouse will work across both DeX and PC at the same time.
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Does not compute. I don't think that is possible. The best you can do is probably get Logitech equipment and switch out the unified receiver from computer to Dex. I will be testing to see if that works for me.

ultramag69 said:
Me too, Just the USB-C to HDMI adaptor but I got it for Around $10Aud...
I have the Dex pad and Station too but this is so much more mobile, no additional power needed... Just a Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard...
Not sure how fast it will eat up the battery though....
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Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?

pypk said:
Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?
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There are plenty of C-HDMI that do 4K at 60Hz, same as the official Samsung one that was just released.

pypk said:
Of the three options: Dex Pad, Dex Station, 3rd Party USB-C to HDMI adapter, which one outputs 4K and if you know at what refresh rate, i.e., 30HZ or 60Hz?
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I believe all 3 do 4k at 60hz.
The Samsung Dex pad/station do and the 3rd party adaptor is advertised as 4k 60hz and I can't see much difference between the Samsung products and the 3rd party cable... Here's the link if you want to check out the USB-C to HDMI cable - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-C-t...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
Cheers...

ultramag69 said:
I believe all 3 do 4k at 60hz.
The Samsung Dex pad/station do and the 3rd party adaptor is advertised as 4k 60hz and I can't see much difference between the Samsung products and the 3rd party cable... Here's the link if you want to check out the USB-C to HDMI cable - https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USB-C-t...e=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649
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Not seeing much difference does not guarantee anything. Buying the Samsung stuff guarantees compatibility. And damn, Samsung's cable is expensive, especially straight from them. I am sure price will come down but that is high. I'm glad I got the DEX pad though. Would've been nice to keep the Ethernet port but that takes up bandwidth.
Dex is good though. Surprisingly good. I tried it yesterday and I think I mentioned this before it is like a mini windows 7 with an android overlay. I thought for sure there would be noticeable latency but NOPE! it's good. I have a really nice laptop. The DEX pad is auxiliary and light weight. I have a Logitech unifying receiver with accompanying keyboard and mouse. Put a thumb drive on the second USB port and get a nice high quality lifestyle looking extension cord and you have a very gratifying portable desktop experience. I for sure will be using Dex to back up my phone to thumb drive and then back up from thumb drive to laptop. I'd rather not hook my phone up to my laptop when I don't have to.
Anybody have one of those Asus monitors that is powered by USB? I think the cheaper one is about $125. I wonder how good it looks and what the minimum power requirement are for the monitor. I doubt 5v at 500ma or 900ma which are USB 2 and 3 specs are applicable to the monitor. Even so I wonder if the Anker battery packs can power it. Asus monitor, 2 or 3 Anker battery packs, DEX pad with thumb drive and keyboard and mouse and you're good to go probably 2-3h 8h workdays without plugging into a socket.

What resolution are able to get via dex? I cant use the 2560x1440 - only 1920 x 1080.
Does the Dex Pad or station get better resolution?

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Webtop Adapter

Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
Jtblkice said:
can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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Yep.
Your laptop only has an HDMI out.
webtop adapter
what exacly is the webtop adapeter
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
jpen said:
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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at the vzw store the adapter has 2 more usb ports on it and the rep was saying you could use those ports to put the wireless adapters in to make a keyboard and mouse work. not sure if it works i just overheard the convo between him and a customer.
Jtblkice said:
Does anyone know of any way you can use the webtop adapter on a laptop? I plug it in via HDMI and nothing happens. can you only use this on a tv/monitor?
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I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
Banggugyangu said:
I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
jpen said:
how do you use it if you hook it up to a tv without a keyboard or mouse? is there any way to navigate through or do you need a keyboard and mouse? I saw a video with the atrix had a hack to hook it up and it turned the phone into a mouse and such....wondering if that happens at all or not
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If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
barry99705 said:
He didn't. He plugged his phone's hdmi cable into his laptop's hdmi port. It's the same port on either end.
If you plug it into the tv without the hack to enable webtop, without the webtop adapter, you get a "remote" screen on phone, which runs the media player. If the webtop adapter does what I think it will do, it will make the phone's screen work like the touchpad on your laptop, and give you a button to bring up the keyboard, which is what the Atrix does with the webtop hack. You can also tether a bluetooth keyboard and mouse to the phone.
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Thats what I was hoping to hear....I want to buy the adapter but I'm afraid someone will come out with the hack as soon as i do.
Banggugyangu said:
I think a better question is this:
Where did you find a laptop with an HDMI INPUT?
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I have a Lenovo with an HDMI port.
Any finding anything interesting about the adapter. VZW rep gave me one at a discount for a problem with my bill.
With the ammount of money ans headaches you would spend to do be able to do that, you're probably better off just trying to find the docking station for the bionic and selling your laptop.
FYI, the Droid BIONIC Support Bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse.
I Use the same on I use for my Tablet.
but here's a keyboard made by moto. A co-worker has it, and he loves it he says
http://www.motorola.com/Consumers/U...ess-Accessories/Atrix-Wireless-Keyboard-US-EN
Pretty sure there is software out there than does it... But its only the size of the phone screen... Look in google code
Has anyone cracked open a Webtop adapter yet to actually see what is inside?
Considering there is that cardock hack which was pretty much just drilling a hole and adding a micro-HDMI cable, the only thing triggering Webtop vs. mirroring mode might be a magnet.
I would love to find that out to be true. A four dollar cable from ebay is a lot better than the 30$? they charge for the adapter....

[Q] MHL video and USB OTG at the same time?

I'm hacking a portable USB keyboard (from HP iPaq) to work on my note and planning on including USB hub, battery power pack, USB port for flash drive.
I'm also planning on adding HDMI out. I'll either include a switch to go between USB (keyboard etc) and video only or if I can have everything then this will become my "turn Note into a computer" all in one solution when plugged into HDMI monitor/television.
All the pins are there. But I don't know if MHL and USB can be used at the same time. Anyone know or do I have to try it and see what happens?
Blowing up my Note USB chip would not make my day! LOL
PurpleMelbourne said:
All the pins are there. But I don't know if MHL and USB can be used at the same time. Anyone know or do I have to try it and see what happens?
Blowing up my Note USB chip would not make my day! LOL
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Sorry to rain on your ideas for the second time but not possible. Even if the logic were there to somehow implement both modes, there just is not enough bandwidth on those wires. You only have two twisted pairs and 1080P needs almost all that bandwidth to push enough ones and zeros to fill the screen at 25-30fps.
Your best bet for satisfying that fantasy is bluetooth keyboard and mouse. Think I saw a youtube video yesterday of a guy playing a game through MHL out while controlling through a bluetooth keyboard.
They are mutually exclusive connections at the hardware level, so no software mod can make this possible.
Bluetooth keyboard and mouse are great - check out my youtube channel "AndroidNZ" for a demo on MHL and various uses.
I was already impressed a while back by your video showing MHL video and so I went and bought a connector of my own on ebay
My main focus is to make a little do it all dock for sitting having lunch in a cafe. All built into a wired HP iPaq keyboard. I currently have a Dell Axim bluetooth keyboard and Logitech bluetooth mouse, but they aren't as smooth as I'd like. But the mouse is probably only useful when using a big screen.
So hardware hacking time!
But even if I can't do both, it will be nice to have my phone sitting next to the television with only a short HDMI lead and the phone doesn't flop around because of the stiffness of said HDMI cable as it does currently with my existing octopus setup of leads.
So it will have two modes.
Video mode where the keyboard only acts as a stand, battery pack and video port.
Cafe mode where I have keyboard with stand, USB flash drive, battery pack and USB.
All in a 15cm x 10cm x 2.5cm tidy expanding package :-D
Maybe when the Note 2 comes out with USB 3 we might be able to have both video and USB
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MHL + OTG Multimedia dock is now available!
Heres the answer to your mhl + otg problem guys but a bit costly!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sa...axy-Note-2-N7100-EDD-S20EWEGSTD-/230889526839
who can read is in advantage
this dock station is for the note II and not for the note I.
The pinout is different.
but 1 solution could be plugging in otg then usb hub then the micro usb female to usb A then the Mhl adaptor and the other connector of the hub with the mouse and the keyboard
http://de.focalprice.com/CA0352B/USB_A_Male_to_Micro_USB_Female_Adapter_Black.html
but finally i think it won´t work because there is not enoug voltage and power to get all devices so u need an external power supplier for the hub or an battery connect with the hub. try it out and tell us of your experience
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alz_uk said:
Heres the answer to your mhl + otg problem guys but a bit costly!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Sa...axy-Note-2-N7100-EDD-S20EWEGSTD-/230889526839
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Smart Dock + Atrix Lapdock = Laptop?

Has anyone tried using the GN2 with a Smart Dock in combination with an Atrix Lapdock?
Swyped from the closest Galaxy.
You will need a micro hdmi adapter. It will and can work, but it will simply mirror the display of your phone.
I've seen the same question asked on the S3 forums. People have even hooked up PS3's to their lapdocks.
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Yes, some sort of adapter would be needed to connect the HDMI from the Smart Dock to the Lapdock. The keyboard and trackpad should work, though, so it will do more than mirror the display, I believe.
Swyped from the closest Galaxy.
Anyone able to make lapdock work with Note 2?
Also any idea where I could pick a Atrix Lapdock up?
OwenW71 said:
Yes, some sort of adapter would be needed to connect the HDMI from the Smart Dock to the Lapdock. The keyboard and trackpad should work, though, so it will do more than mirror the display, I believe.
Swyped from the closest Galaxy.
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uhhh, dont see why the keyboard and trackpad would work from a hdmi connection alone. you'd need to connect the usb as well to enable input. then it just mirrors the display and lets you use keyboard and trackpad.
it wont give you the full atrix lapdock software suite as that was installed on the atrix itself, not on the dock.
Keyboard and track pad should work since smartdock uses 11 pin to use both HDMI and USB OTG. Has any one tried?
If we could somehow hack the power, by patching the microUSB out of lapdock, we could potentially have a stand alone laptop. Any ideas? do any experts think it is feasible?
Souai said:
uhhh, dont see why the keyboard and trackpad would work from a hdmi connection alone. you'd need to connect the usb as well to enable input. then it just mirrors the display and lets you use keyboard and trackpad.
it wont give you the full atrix lapdock software suite as that was installed on the atrix itself, not on the dock.
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nipuna said:
Keyboard and track pad should work since smartdock uses 11 pin to use both HDMI and USB OTG. Has any one tried?
If we could somehow hack the power, by patching the microUSB out of lapdock, we could potentially have a stand alone laptop. Any ideas? do any experts think it is feasible?
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It should work fine, but I don't own one to test with. The basic idea is to build/buy adapters to connect things up with. If you have a SmartDock, that will get the phone side handled. Do a google for people using the lapdock with Raspberry Pi boards. They have all the details for interfacing to it. I think they even power the Pi with the battery in the lapdock, so you could charge your phone with it if the SmartDock allows for that, which I think it does. At the end of the day, the lapdock is a pretty "dumb" device, it takes standard inputs like HDMI/USB, and doesn't seem to have anything to restrict it to working only with the Atrix.

Huawei P20 Pro EMUI Desktop mode & Dell D6000 dock - USB keyboard and mouse wont work

Huawei P20 Pro EMUI Desktop mode & Dell D6000 dock - USB keyboard and mouse wont work
I have a Huawei P20 Pro and a Dell D6000 USB-C dock, which comes with HDMI, 2 x displayport, Ethernet and multiple USB3.0 ports. I find when I plug my phone in to the D6000 dock the following happens:
- It comes up "fast charging" (not "super charging" like it does with the Huawei native charger plug). It is great that it supports more than base USB charging however!
- The desktop comes up successfully on the HDMI port only (not the displayport ports) in 1080p, the native resolution of my monitor. The video is clean and stable, even watching Youtube videos in 1080p
- The USB ports appear to be non-functional - I cannot get a keyboard or mouse to work which is the most pressing issue.
- The Ethernet port appears to do nothing, so I have to use Wifi.
I also have a Dell DA200 USB-C to HDMI/VGA/USB/Ethernet adaptor - this works fine with my USB keyboard and mouse with either an HDMI or VGA monitor in native resolution, but of course it cant charge the phone. The Ethernet port is also unusable.
Finally, I have a USB-C to Displayport adaptor - this works with either a DVI-D and VGA adaptor plugged into the end, but it doesn't have USB or power.
Desktop mode on my phone appears to be quite heavy and will run the phone from 100% to flat in about an hour - so it isn't really a sustainable solution without power. If Huawei could do something in the OS to make it work natively with a Dell D6000 dock, including Ethernet, USB, Displayport multi-monitor, etc, that would be fantastic. I wouldn't need a Windows machine - this thing is pretty much as good!
Ideas anyone?
Use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
Fuszyduck69 said:
Use a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
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I connected both and they did not work on desktop mode, they control the phone side.
I am using a Tuwejia adapter from Amazon and am currently using a USB keyboard and USB mouse. The keyboard is an old Dell keyboard, I think 12 years old, and it is the big one with volume buttons on top along with two extra USB ports in the back. I have the mouse attached to one of the USB ports on the keyboard so I'm only using one USB port on the adapter. Phone never goes below 100% and it went from 96% to 100% within 10 minutes even though I was using it as a computer at the same time, hooked up to the big 4K montior via HDMI (but it still shows at 1080p). Keyboard and mouse both work on desktop mode and phone side.
All i found yet is that the Dock have to be USB-C 3.1
I Plan to buy the P20 Pro in October and also looking for an Dock with USB Hub, Ethernet, HDMI/VGA to use it als PC with an VNC like Client.
bluedragon1982 said:
All i found yet is that the Dock have to be USB-C 3.1
I Plan to buy the P20 Pro in October and also looking for an Dock with USB Hub, Ethernet, HDMI/VGA to use it als PC with an VNC like Client.
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You might want to wait for its successor instead as the year is almost out by October.
nakTT said:
You might want to wait for its successor instead as the year is almost out by October.
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The Mate 20 Pro could be interessting but maybe to expensive Event with an contract i would have to pay about 450€ extra
bluedragon1982 said:
The Mate 20 Pro could be interessting but maybe to expensive Event with an contract i would have to pay about 450€ extra
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The Mate series is a bit too big for me. P series suit me better.
technohippy29uk said:
I have a Huawei P20 Pro and a Dell D6000 USB-C dock, which comes with HDMI, 2 x displayport, Ethernet and multiple USB3.0 ports. I find when I plug my phone in to the D6000 dock the following happens:...
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Picked up this usb-c hub off Amazon.ca for my MacBook, works with my p20 pro, hdmi, USB and flash cards. Haven't tried ethernet however I have used keyboard and mouse all this while using the USB C port as a pass through power for the device.
USB, Proslife 7-in-1... https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B07F63F51S?ref=yo_pop_ma_swf

Dex Support and Questions

Does anyone here know if Samsung has an official forum or website for Dex related issues? My searches on Google have turned up dead ends.
Also, is there a thread here on XDA to discuss Dex related issues?
I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 9. I bought a Vava USB-C hub on Amazon that gives me HDMI out, an SD card slot, 3 USB type A ports, and a USB C port for charging. I have a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse connected via USB. I'm having some issues with Dex and I would like to know if they are being caused by my hub or are they general Dex related issues:
- All devices must be plugged into the hub prior to plugging it into the phone. Hotplugging devices causes the Dex desktop to lock-up.
- Mouse scrolling breaks everytime I minimize an app. It also breaks in one app when I switch to another app and then right back to the first app.
Is anyone with Samsung Offical Dex Pad having similar issues? Also, is anyone with another unofficial USB-C HDMI connector having similar issues?
Edit: When scrolling for the external mouse "breaks," scrolling while using the Note 9 as a trackpad still works.
There is no such line for the time being.
I use the cheap USB type C to HDMI output.
However, my tv screen only show minimum size (1.5x bigger than phone screen)
any setting I need to do on my phone?
leongsem said:
I use the cheap USB type C to HDMI output.
However, my tv screen only show minimum size (1.5x bigger than phone screen)
any setting I need to do on my phone?
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Firstly if your Note 9 is connected to tv and in Dex mode, the tv should automatically, scale it correctly.
(I have found that some, older tv's it's a bit misaligned .)
Secondly, are you in Dex mode or
screen mirroring mode ?
See screenshots.
k4ever said:
Does anyone here know if Samsung has an official forum or website for Dex related issues? My searches on Google have turned up dead ends.
Also, is there a thread here on XDA to discuss Dex related issues?
I have a Verizon Galaxy Note 9. I bought a Vava USB-C hub on Amazon that gives me HDMI out, an SD card slot, 3 USB type A ports, and a USB C port for charging. I have a Logitech Wireless Keyboard and wireless mouse connected via USB. I'm having some issues with Dex and I would like to know if they are being caused by my hub or are they general Dex related issues:
- All devices must be plugged into the hub prior to plugging it into the phone. Hotplugging devices causes the Dex desktop to lock-up.
- Mouse scrolling breaks everytime I minimize an app. It also breaks in one app when I switch to another app and then right back to the first app.
Is anyone with Samsung Offical Dex Pad having similar issues? Also, is anyone with another unofficial USB-C HDMI connector having similar issues?
Edit: When scrolling for the external mouse "breaks," scrolling while using the Note 9 as a trackpad still works.
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maybe its time to test an other cheap 10$ usbc to hdmi dongle?

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