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Do you think an international Version with COS (CM) is coming?

The question already says everything.
I love the specs of the phone, finally a flagship which has all I personally need.
When it gets the amount of Custom Roms of the Z1 i really want to buy the Z2.
Furthermore 6 GB Ram sounds really tasty.

I'd like to think so. See no reason why not.
I was literally on the cusp of buying the Xiaomi Mi5, but this appears far superior, except perhaps the lack of NFC.
ZUK Z1 wasn't very popular, but it kind of missed the boat. Seems ZUK have dropped this phone right at the correct time. Xiaomi isn't making it easy to get the Mi5 and the OP3 hasn't dropped yet.
Be nice if CyanogenOS 13 was on it.....

Well instead i think not...in the last days if you follow the official european distributor facebook's page they told a lot of bad things about Cyanogen, the last one is this:
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And some days ago:
https://www.facebook.com/zukofficial/posts/1562718527358847?comment_id=1562752227355477&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
Then i think that is really hard...however i don't think that they will stop international avalaibility but probably they will translate the ZUI..or maybe they have a sort of Android version for global market (like One Plus with Oxygen OS), let's wait and see!

don't know if I could go back to a phone without wireless charging but otherwise it sounds great

SedyBenoitPeace said:
Well instead i think not...in the last days if you follow the official european distributor facebook's page they told a lot of bad things about Cyanogen, the last one is this:
And some days ago:
https://www.facebook.com/zukofficial/posts/1562718527358847?comment_id=1562752227355477&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R9%22%7D
Then i think that is really hard...however i don't think that they will stop international avalaibility but probably they will translate the ZUI..or maybe they have a sort of Android version for global market (like One Plus with Oxygen OS), let's wait and see!
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Okay looking at their Facebook page seems unlikely they wanna use CM again... so hopefully its unlocked so there will be good development for this phone to change ZUI.
There is intl version of lenovo rom though.

Anybody knows, is english language include in it and can i use it in Europe?

So i hope that CM is coming in the unlocked version.

dtosun said:
Anybody knows, is english language include in it and can i use it in Europe?
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We know nothing right now. But im sure in some days/weeks we will get the infos. I really really hope that the Bootloader is unlocked for CM (not ****ty COS).

Tiz92 said:
So i hope that CM is coming in the unlocked version.
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I hope as well. COS would be even better IMHO.
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For me a translated ZUI or another Chinese rom is a NOGO.
The rest of the phone (but the battery) looks very good....
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Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?

oile said:
Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?
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Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.

Tiz92 said:
Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.
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100 people, 100 opinions...

denkem said:
100 people, 100 opinions...
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Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.

Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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Agree of course. I didn't want to sound offensive But tbh, I only have had zuk z1 in my hands for maybe 5 days. And CM was as buggy as ZUI. So I'll wait for xda users "reviews" rather than some *izmo**** websites review. And then I will decide. On paper it looks good so far

Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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What is Toms ?

based on what i read in a couple of sites - it says there is no international ver of the device.
hope it will be proved to be wrong.

Looks like no international version. China only.

It won't come with cm, although I think it would be an open source software and would be a peace of cake making Nexus ROM based .. So I don't mind.

Engadget updated their article to say a Lenovo rep confirmed China availability only: http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/21/zuk-z2-pro-lenovo/
Maybe it will still come with an unlocked bootloader though, however resellers prices will likely prove to be less attractive...

oile said:
Given the fact that you already have Z1, why do you say that Cm implementation would be better and ZUI is a no go?
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Ciao @oile,
it's a very personal opinion. I dislike actually every ROM that is not AOSP based. Material design is brilliant and implemented in all major apps. Switching from a material design app (e.g. Gmail) to a very chinese stile (e.g. ZUI) is very inconsistent.
I'm not a Cyanogen fanboy (I'd be happy with something similar to what OnePlus did with Oxygen OS) but the stability, performance and features of COS 12.1 on the Z1, are almost perfect for my usage pattern.
Long story short: it's a very personal preference of Android as it was designed by Google with some nice additional features.
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Tiz92 said:
Because we like stock Android without laggy skins.
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Very true........
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Tiz92 said:
Of course. You are right. But with an unlocked bootloader and open sources we can get our beloved CM and Toms and the people who wants to stay on the Zuks UI can do it.
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Ciao @branzoll,
unfortunately in my long experience of flashing CM and ASOP roms I never found am implementation that was perfect (lower than stock camera quality, bad radio drivers (GPS), lower than stock battery life). The two best CM/COS implementation I tryied were on ZUK Z1 and OPO!!
I hope I'll be wrong but I struggle to think of full sources sharing. No OEM want/can have a full release (see Sony and their willingness to share stopped by the legal issue with Quallcom).
I lost the hope of a perfect custom AOSP rom that is not a official commercial one (COS/Oxygen/some Mediatek ROMs).

Android P {PIE}

When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤

Probably in March or April.
I hope there will be a beta program though.

Or we can get a port of SX earlier? as galaxy 10 will be based on android P

RIPPER said:
When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤
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Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.

jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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We can hope for a port on SX or note 9

RIPPER said:
We can hope for a port on SX or note 9
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Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.

Huele Fello said:
Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.
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Sharing you a link where you can understand about the custom rom and building process. Any one can build a rom but he/she have basic knowledge about. Snapdragon chipset are very easy to crack but exynos is hardwork that why we dont much development here plus feature may get reduce in note 8 as custom rom while dilute note 8 features.
Pls read
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/

Ripper, you forgot to mention to Huele Fello that AOSP also wouldn't have Samsung's Touchwiz to make the almighty S-Pen work. The Bixby button on the side would also be dead, as well as the Iris scanner,

I guess in next 3 weeks max .

Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I guess in next 3 weeks max .
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Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.

Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it

Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it
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And what is Treble going to help you in receiving the Pie update for the Note 8? Samsung doesn't officially support it on the Note 8, thus it's pointless. It might only help with custom ROMS with updates a little bit.

jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
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Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
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Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
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Oreo was released to the Note 8 in March of 2018. Not sure why Jason504 thinks we just got it in August??
It would also stand to reason that Android Pie will be released in a similar time table as Oreo. Possibly sooner since Samsung is planning the rollout in January 2019.

I don't know exactly when I got Oreo but it definitely wasn't in March. It was way after that it was May or June when I got the update for my phone. One of the last companies to push the update. Samsung sells more phones than any company and are almost dead last at pushing out updates?

ZTE Axon 10 Pro US bootloader unlock request

It looks like ZTE is back again with another flagship killer with an unbelievable price! With 8+256 for $549 and 12+256 for $599 this will be the device to beat the rest of 2019 and well into 2020. However, one thing will separate the Axon 10 Pro from the OnePlus 7/7T going forward and that is an official bootloader unlock from ZTE. The inclusion of microSD support has me wanting this phone more than any out currently. Hopefully the bootloader is unlockable out of box, but if not, please, ZTE, if you happen to read this, PLEASE include an official bootloader unlock, preferably one that doesn't affect widevine L1 so we can enjoy a flourishing development community as well as high quality video on this display.
XDA, let's show ZTE how great this device can be with your support in backing an official bootloader unlock for the Axon 10 Pro!
Join the discussion on Z-community and make your voices heard:
https://community.zteusa.com/discussion/54800/axon-10-pro-bootloader-unlock-request

Unlock Bootloader will be awesome, and having You as well as @Unjustified Dev as developers will rock this device even more like Axon 7 did.

If ZTE is watching, I just want to say thanks.
I remember receiving a PM from @DrakenFX 3 years ago about this new phone THE ZTE AXON 7! Doesn't that sound cool? It wasn't the first time we crossed paths or second here on XDA.
At the time, ZTE was known for stripping devices of fastboot mode. Regardless of my novice skills, I still took on the challenge.
Shortly after coming into the community and learning about this device and meeting some great people, I received another PM! A guy asked for my address to send me a device! Yes, that's correct, my first device was actually bought by one member of XDA.
The joy of that day can never be explained or replicated again. I received my device a bit later which was good because ZTE had just released the OTA file that allowed B20 to be unlocked and brought back fastboot which is stripped on all of their devices that I've ever worked with.
In less than a week we had CM-13.0 running, but there were so many things we couldn't figure out.
Before I knew it, ZTE reached out to me and a few other CyanogenInc developers. They helped us fix Audio, fingerprint, sensors, VR, Camera, and I'm betting even more. I am considering getting the Axon 10 Pro myself if I don't receive one from ZTE or anyone else
I think we're all asking for you to be the same ZTE that left us with the Axon 7 one of the most influential devices in your history.
Already prepared for this amazing device http://files.nwwn.com/~unjust/Axon 10 Pro/LineageOS/

I went from my axon 7 to onplus my daughter now has my axon 7 and she loves it
If bootloader unlock is there I am definitely jumping back to ZTE from OnePlus

Lineage 16.0
@Unjustified Dev What base firmware did you use to build Lineage 16.0?
Thanks
Bill

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How did you do that?
I hope that it does not take long until we can all unlock the BL
and we get TWRP for axon 10

Chris axon 7 said:
How did you do that?
I hope that it does not take long until we can all unlock the BL
and we get TWRP for axon 10
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Unlock Bootloader is possible at the moment (thanks to @Unjustified Dev and if not mistaken is or will work on TWRP, but will see....:good::good:

I know that we shouldn't ask about timelines but hey what's the status on this?

marcusah123 said:
I know that we shouldn't ask about timelines but hey what's the status on this?
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Timeline on what? If you mean bootloader unlock read xda news
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Unjustified Dev said:
Timeline on what? If you mean bootloader unlock read xda news
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Hello,
Timeline on any of the above except bootloader, aka TWRP, Lineage, I mean is it being worked on or what? Sorry I should have quoted the text above.
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Originally Posted by Chris axon 7
How did you do that?
I hope that it does not take long until we can all unlock the BL
and we get TWRP for axon 10
Unlock Bootloader is possible at the moment (thanks to @Unjustified Dev and if not mistaken is or will work on TWRP, but will see....

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Hello,
Timeline on any of the above except bootloader, aka TWRP, Lineage, I mean is it being worked on or what? Sorry I should have quoted the text above.
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Originally Posted by Chris axon 7
How did you do that?
I hope that it does not take long until we can all unlock the BL
and we get TWRP for axon 10
Unlock Bootloader is possible at the moment (thanks to @Unjustified Dev and if not mistaken is or will work on TWRP, but will see....
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TWRP isn't ready due to decryption with a pin set. And lineage isn't ready either but you can install GSI. Only difference is GSI don't take full advantage of the Qualcomm enhancements like gps and ims but everything else *should* work
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DrakenFX said:
Unlock Bootloader is possible at the moment (thanks to @Unjustified Dev and if not mistaken is or will work on TWRP, but will see....:good::good:
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marcusah123 said:
Hello,
Timeline on any of the above except bootloader, aka TWRP, Lineage, I mean is it being worked on or what? Sorry I should have quoted the text above.
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Originally Posted by Chris axon 7
How did you do that?
I hope that it does not take long until we can all unlock the BL
and we get TWRP for axon 10
Unlock Bootloader is possible at the moment (thanks to @Unjustified Dev and if not mistaken is or will work on TWRP, but will see....
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Unjustified Dev said:
TWRP isn't ready due to decryption with a pin set. And lineage isn't ready either but you can install GSI. Only difference is GSI don't take full advantage of the Qualcomm enhancements like gps and ims but everything else *should* work
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If I'm going to run this phone, I would love LineageOS as that's what I am on currently. Why Android has to be a pain to get everything migrated from an old phone to a new phone and hasn't been fixed is beyond frustrating too. I don't upgrade often due to the fact that phone hardware sucks or the boot-loader is encrypted. If that wasn't an issue that would be one less hassle but the fact that it's so much trouble to change from an old device to a new device while taking all your stuff with you and not losing or having stuff get missed in the transfer that's the biggest reason I keep my phones so long.
I'll need all the regular features like GPS so I can't really do without full support and I wouldn't want to run anything but LineageOS anyway because when LineageOS is ready I want to just get my stuff to it and not have to do the move of my data multiple times.
Thanks

marcusah123 said:
If I'm going to run this phone, I would love LineageOS as that's what I am on currently. Why Android has to be a pain to get everything migrated from an old phone to a new phone and hasn't been fixed is beyond frustrating too. I don't upgrade often due to the fact that phone hardware sucks or the boot-loader is encrypted. If that wasn't an issue that would be one less hassle but the fact that it's so much trouble to change from an old device to a new device while taking all your stuff with you and not losing or having stuff get missed in the transfer that's the biggest reason I keep my phones so long.
I'll need all the regular features like GPS so I can't really do without full support and I wouldn't want to run anything but LineageOS anyway because when LineageOS is ready I want to just get my stuff to it and not have to do the move of my data multiple times.
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The phone hasn't been out very long. It took a whole team to get most of the issues worked out the Axon 7. There's no way we could just get it working that fast. Keep in mind I don't own the device either. It's going to take time regardless due to so much changing with Android I'm behind on all the new stuff like encryption.
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marcusah123 said:
If I'm going to run this phone, I would love LineageOS as that's what I am on currently. Why Android has to be a pain to get everything migrated from an old phone to a new phone and hasn't been fixed is beyond frustrating too. I don't upgrade often due to the fact that phone hardware sucks or the boot-loader is encrypted. If that wasn't an issue that would be one less hassle but the fact that it's so much trouble to change from an old device to a new device while taking all your stuff with you and not losing or having stuff get missed in the transfer that's the biggest reason I keep my phones so long.
I'll need all the regular features like GPS so I can't really do without full support and I wouldn't want to run anything but LineageOS anyway because when LineageOS is ready I want to just get my stuff to it and not have to do the move of my data multiple times.
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For starters, @Unjustified Dev DOES NOT have this Device, he is doing every blind and if you want to get any custom software together, jump in and help him get the Axon 10 Pro, so he can debug and get faster fixes for this device.
Other than that You Have To Wait like everyone else

Unjustified Dev said:
The phone hasn't been out very long. It took a whole team to get most of the issues worked out the Axon 7. There's no way we could just get it working that fast. Keep in mind I don't own the device either. It's going to take time regardless due to so much changing with Android I'm behind on all the new stuff like encryption.
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Hello,
Thanks for taking time to respond to my message. I understand what you mean about the encryption. Can I justify buying the phone at the double cost from what the Axon 7 cost? Not sure however I am highly interested in this.
Thanks
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DrakenFX said:
For starters, @Unjustified Dev DOES NOT have this Device, he is doing every blind and if you want to get any custom software together, jump in and help him get the Axon 10 Pro, so he can debug and get faster fixes for this device.
Other than that You Have To Wait like everyone else
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Can we start or set something up here to donate so he can get a device?
I am not sure how that works here.

marcusah123 said:
Can we start or set something up here to donate so he can get a device?
I am not sure how that works here.
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If you want you can start a thread using his "PayPal.me" or just donate to him here :
https://www.paypal.me/unjustifieddev
Every little thing counts and the faster he get the device the faster WE will see things moving.

thanks，but it used AXON10Pro 5G ？

Nada?

Nothing?
Maybe something hits in 2020!

Rog Phone 1 didn't got developers, why do you think Rog 2 will?
I don't think will be developers to this phone, not now, not soon...

Its selling that week in USA
1TB Storage, 12GB RAM, 6000mAh, 855+ That's absoluly the most powerful phone of the history of humanity in 2019
Is incredible then ASUS do not pay some dev to come here and create an TWRP, Custom Kernel and Mokee ROM. That's the only reason I do not buy that phone, and that only reason I need buy chineses OnePlus or Xiaomi. When have Mokee custom ROM, Custom Kernel and TWRP I will buy that device 1TB
At the moment I will stay with Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro Premium 512GB for $500 I prefer the taiwanese but later then I got Zenfone 3 Deluxe 6GB without dev I am waiting for ASUS be a player again
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Email the CEO at https://www.asus.com/us/support/callus
calling for then pay dev put custom kernel, mokee rom and TWRP
It's unacceptable for me to have to buy cell phones from Chinese companies because ASUS is not dedicated to being the best at software like it's in hardware. I emailed the CEO in the US now complaining, they should pay an independent DEV to put custom rom, custom kernel and TWRP since they don't invest in advertising and their cell phones are no longer competitive like Chinese spying on their users. subsidized by the communist party

jiraianam said:
Its selling that week in USA
1TB Storage, 12GB RAM, 6000mAh, 855+ That's absoluly the most powerful phone of the history of humanity in 2019
Is incredible then ASUS do not pay some dev to come here and create an TWRP, Custom Kernel and Mokee ROM. That's the only reason I do not buy that phone, and that only reason I need buy chineses OnePlus or Xiaomi. When have Mokee custom ROM, Custom Kernel and TWRP I will buy that device 1TB
At the moment I will stay with Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro Premium 512GB for $500 I prefer the taiwanese but later then I got Zenfone 3 Deluxe 6GB without dev I am waiting for ASUS be a player again
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Email the CEO at https://www.asus.com/us/support/callus
calling for then pay dev put custom kernel, mokee rom and TWRP
It's unacceptable for me to have to buy cell phones from Chinese companies because ASUS is not dedicated to being the best at software like it's in hardware. I emailed the CEO in the US now complaining, they should pay an independent DEV to put custom rom, custom kernel and TWRP since they don't invest in advertising and their cell phones are no longer competitive like Chinese spying on their users. subsidized by the communist party
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Then don't buy the phone... It's pretty simple.
This phone is amazing in every respect and the lack of development is not an issue. If it is for you, but something else.

personally i tested all custom rom for lots of phones for 5 years
mokee it s pretty fast, but also very similar to lineage os. in term of stability and long term performance its not the best, depend by developer of rom.
the best rom ever build is omnirom or rom based. the most stable and smoothest rom ever tried even for long term usage it doesnt lag or slowdown.
the animations are so smooth and costant without fps drop. i use tool to measure it. even touch latency is so low ( when you open a background app you dont have to wait like lots of aosp roms). THIS ROM WORKS FLAWLESSY BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE FEATURES IS VERY WELL BUILD AND IMPLEMENTED, NO EXPERIMENTAL THINGS).
NOW FOR ROG 2:
I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE BUILD AN OMNIROM 9 OR WAIT FOR ANDROID 10 SOURCES AND BUILD OMNI 10, BUT I REALLY HOPE FOR AT LEAST SOME ANDROID 9 RELEASES SINCE SOURCES FOR STOCK ROM ARE OUT AND TPWR WORKS

forget this phone if you are into custom rom , i waited forever for the rog phone 1 development but yeah, there is nothing there.
i though there will be some development in rog phone 2 as the price cheaper for tencent edition , seems like this phone will get the same fate as rog phone 1.

lawong said:
forget this phone if you are into custom rom , i waited forever for the rog phone 1 development but yeah, there is nothing there.
i though there will be some development in rog phone 2 as the price cheaper for tencent edition , seems like this phone will get the same fate as rog phone 1.
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Well I have always been of the mindset of "Never say Never" so maybe something pops up. I still get to look forward to Android 10 in the future, so at least there is that. The phone rocks as is anyways, but a custom ROM option would never hurt.

Alessandro999 said:
personally i tested all custom rom for lots of phones for 5 years
mokee it s pretty fast, but also very similar to lineage os. in term of stability and long term performance its not the best, depend by developer of rom.
the best rom ever build is omnirom or rom based. the most stable and smoothest rom ever tried even for long term usage it doesnt lag or slowdown.
the animations are so smooth and costant without fps drop. i use tool to measure it. even touch latency is so low ( when you open a background app you dont have to wait like lots of aosp roms). THIS ROM WORKS FLAWLESSY BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE FEATURES IS VERY WELL BUILD AND IMPLEMENTED, NO EXPERIMENTAL THINGS).
NOW FOR ROG 2:
I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE BUILD AN OMNIROM 9 OR WAIT FOR ANDROID 10 SOURCES AND BUILD OMNI 10, BUT I REALLY HOPE FOR AT LEAST SOME ANDROID 9 RELEASES SINCE SOURCES FOR STOCK ROM ARE OUT AND TPWR WORKS
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Coming from Oneplus 7 pro. Omni was noticeably slower, lacked features, buggy and less battery friendly than OOS. I have a WW rog 2 and i don't think that software is bad. It is good, close to stock Android and with many useful features. Really no need for custom software at this point imo.. Asus did a good job.
Waiting for Android 10..

https://www.xda-developers.com/asus-sending-rog-phone-ii-custom-rom-kernel-developers/
AH YA!!

jiraianam said:
Its selling that week in USA
1TB Storage, 12GB RAM, 6000mAh, 855+ That's absoluly the most powerful phone of the history of humanity in 2019
Is incredible then ASUS do not pay some dev to come here and create an TWRP, Custom Kernel and Mokee ROM. That's the only reason I do not buy that phone, and that only reason I need buy chineses OnePlus or Xiaomi. When have Mokee custom ROM, Custom Kernel and TWRP I will buy that device 1TB
At the moment I will stay with Xiaomi Redmi K20 Pro Premium 512GB for $500 I prefer the taiwanese but later then I got Zenfone 3 Deluxe 6GB without dev I am waiting for ASUS be a player again
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Email the CEO at https://www.asus.com/us/support/callus
calling for then pay dev put custom kernel, mokee rom and TWRP
It's unacceptable for me to have to buy cell phones from Chinese companies because ASUS is not dedicated to being the best at software like it's in hardware. I emailed the CEO in the US now complaining, they should pay an independent DEV to put custom rom, custom kernel and TWRP since they don't invest in advertising and their cell phones are no longer competitive like Chinese spying on their users. subsidized by the communist party
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It's WORK !!!
Now need ask for the @luca020400 , @OrdenKrieger , @Freak07 , @micky387 go with the Mokee ROM dev for the love of God do not put an LINEAGE because my legacy apps do not work with it. And please first start with Android Pie because have compatibility with Xposed
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personally i tested all custom rom for lots of phones for 5 years
mokee it s pretty fast, but also very similar to lineage os. in term of stability and long term performance its not the best, depend by developer of rom.
the best rom ever build is omnirom or rom based. the most stable and smoothest rom ever tried even for long term usage it doesnt lag or slowdown.
the animations are so smooth and costant without fps drop. i use tool to measure it. even touch latency is so low ( when you open a background app you dont have to wait like lots of aosp roms). THIS ROM WORKS FLAWLESSY BECAUSE EVERY SINGLE FEATURES IS VERY WELL BUILD AND IMPLEMENTED, NO EXPERIMENTAL THINGS).
NOW FOR ROG 2:
I REALLY HOPE SOMEONE BUILD AN OMNIROM 9 OR WAIT FOR ANDROID 10 SOURCES AND BUILD OMNI 10, BUT I REALLY HOPE FOR AT LEAST SOME ANDROID 9 RELEASES SINCE SOURCES FOR STOCK ROM ARE OUT AND TPWR WORKS
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@Alessandro999 Compatibility with the legacy Xposed apps do not exist in Omnirom
EvolutionX I think have compatibility too I am testing in my Redmi K20 Pro Premium

Thinking of buying X2 Pro

Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you

ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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I have had the phone for a few weeks and it is fantastic. 90hz is great and the fast charging is a life saver. The OS is pretty decent and I'm done with all the bugs of custom ROMs. Could be better but totally good enough.
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ammarwajihi said:
Hello people,
I am thinking of buying this phone as currently this is the perfect all round phone for the price. But, I see there is no development for it on XDA can anyone tell why so? Because I always use custom ROMs on my phone as I don't like this skinned versions. This is a big set back for me. Can anyone tell if there ever will be any development for this phone?
Thank you
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Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.

danypava said:
Sadly the main reason is that released sources are messy and not easily usable for custom rom building.
Luckily all phones released with Android 8+ have a separate vendor partition compatible with treble, a new way of updating the smartphone imposed by Google. This means you would be able to install any rom you want that was build as a generic GSI image.
I got this phone instead of a Xiaomi because the hardware is just so good, and I don't regret my choice. Also the software is not as bad as people say, of course it's not barebone Android but realme os should make it even better.
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I've sold my xiaomi mi note 10 and bouht x2 pro 12/256.
Didn't regret it for 1 second.

Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.

ammarwajihi said:
Thanks guys. I am confused between this one and Redmi K20 Pro, clearly this has good hardware and few other perks but K20 Pro has great development support.
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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup

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I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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Yes, that's true

I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect

danypava said:
I was too, but a couple of my friends have it and it broke in no time, I got scared it would be fragile.
I also got this for only 40€ more than the mi9t pro, and I would gladly take the 50W charging and the 90Hz over the popup
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The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?

Micronap said:
The world's most famous phone durability reviewer JerryRigEverything couldn't broke K20 Pro but your friends broke it in no time??? If you don't believe me find and watch video: Redmi K20 Pro Durability Test by JerryRigEverything.
So why are you lying and writing bad about other phones to make X2 Pro look better, that's not fair and honest?
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Woah woah dude, calm down. I follow Zack and see all of his reviews, I'm a phone fanatic and check out any news in the phone department.
Before this phone I had 2 different Xiaomi phones, I was valuating another one before getting this. I'm not attached to any brand or anything.
I'm just telling what happened to a couple of my friends, if you don't believe me I'll get photos of their phones but I don't see the point. I couldn't care less of what other people buy, the op just asked a question and I shared my experience.

manus31 said:
I was looking at the k20 pro,mi note 10 and this and went for the X2 pro simply because of the value for money,
90 hz
12gb ram
256gb ufs 3.0
50 watt charging,
People say downside is colorOs and yes it is not as good as other OS like Oxygen Is which I came from.
But it is not terrible at all and perfectly good in most areas,
RealmeUI is coming though and it looks impressive giving all things you would want in a feature rich OS from AOD to edge lighting,Im really excited for it.
If ROM support is really that important to you then I guess go with a 7T but for those who are not too pushed the X2 is perfect
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Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.

ammarwajihi said:
Yeah, it is value for money for sure. These companies are not like Apple that they will give software updates for 3-4 years, they suddenly drop support that's what I am afraid of.
That's why ROM development is very important for me I always want to use the latest Android. 7T is out of budget so I may opt for K20 Pro.
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I think people will refrain from unlocking and flashing because it breaks the FOD.
That is what made me go for the k20 because if you are a flashaholic like me, custom development is what matters the most.
I have suffered with my first phone with no development, the Coolpad Note 3. When new it seems nice but as time passes by with no updates. It gets very hard to deal with repeated factory resets, which is the only way left.
So all the rest of my phones that I bought had some of the best development teams...even till date.
Zuk z2
Poco f1
K20 pro/mi9t pro
So if you want to taste custom roms, you have to go the k20 way, but beware the FOD (Fingerprint Scanner) on custom roms on the K20 Pro aren't flawless byt still work with workarounds, including widewine L1 support.

Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).

HTCDevil said:
Support is really poor and updates come later.
I like my X2 Pro but it is clear it is not a top range also because of this.
Honestly i think about spend my money for my next phone in Realme phones (except minor phones, maybe mostly supported).
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This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken

manus31 said:
This is not true,I bought the phone at Christmas and have had one update a month with latest security patch.
It has been known now for some time that Android 10 and realmeUI was coming in March so I don't know why people are complaining,
Software support has been on point and no promises were broken
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I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.

February update now live in the UK site.

ngagephone said:
February update now live in the UK site.
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In Indian site too. Changelog is irrelevant

Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.

ngagephone said:
Change log is pretty much irrelevant on most phones... I've noticed lots of stuff not mentioned on the change logs on various devices.
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For example?
Have you updated?
Please show us improvements, i am curious

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I am referring to relevant updates, if you are happy because of having one update at month without real improvements, you are welcome.
We know about the "promise" of Realme about March update, but the reality is that Realme is slower than other brand, mostly with its top phone.
I don't understand, instead, why people accept everything and prefer to say that his phone is fantastic rather than underline failings, just because has got this phone.
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...and the point of first message is about development, i draw a veil over that argument, so we all expect at least to have real, good updates from manufacturer...
So if someone ask about it is right to say the truth.
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Do you even have this phone ?
The quality of the updates have been decent. No real bugs with the software for most people,though have seen some people complain about minor things that they experience but I think most of us knew colorOs wasn't going to be perfect,
Another update just released today,this is better than most manufacturers,OnePlus for example only give Bi monthly and their releaselog is pretty pathetic at times mentioning improvements to weather app and unknown bug fixes.
Realme is definitely not slower than other brands,it's one of the quickest in actual fact and I for one don't feel at all like I'm accepting everything just because I own the phone,
I'm happy and looking forward to RealmeUI