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Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
Jonathan030 said:
@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Welcome.
BTW, there's a button for that...
Jonathan030 said:
@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Why would you need options relating to change charge speeds? Qualcomm quick charger works on any kernel, if you're talking about USB fast charging, it's already enabled in Franco kernel.
There isn't a need to switch to other kernels.
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@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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Laptop USB ports at limited to 500mah output unless its a dedicated charging port with USB 3.0 then It can push 1.6A so I don't see how that's possible to charge at 2A from a laptop.
@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
Quickcharge 2.0 devices uses the data pin on usb to determine if the charger connected is a quickcharge 2.0 charger. The devices you are using do not have this capability so they charge slower. I do not think this can be changed kernel or phone side.
Thanks! I guess I'll have to replace the chargers/battery
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- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
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Here are a few on Amazon.com:
CHOE 6 port home charger with 2 Quick Charge 2.0 ports: $34.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBK9M08
CHOE 4 port car charger with 1 Quick Charge 2.0 port: $21.99 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R18XTCA
Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 10000 mAh battery pack: $29.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBDI7EC
I haven't tried any of them yet; the car charger arrives tomorrow
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
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That doesn't make sense which is why I went into some detail about laptop or any computers USB ports. I unfortunately had a MB Pro and hated it, and it never charged any of my phone a at 2A including my wife's old S5. I don't have it anymore so I can't test it again to verify. The person I quoted below explained it a little better than I did.
MunkinDrunky said:
I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
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I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
PaisanNYC said:
Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
Tower1972 said:
Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
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Qualcomm doesn't post every certified charger on their website. In would email the manufacturer and ask for their certification or a picture of it which most will show you assuming on they're legit.
Jonathan030 said:
Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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I've used QC 2.0 since I bought my phone during long days and my battery life is just fine. My battery is cooler during QC than when using qi charging so I disagree. Generally speaking you're correct, however the battery would need to get hot and stay hot which is doesn't. QC 2.0 tapers off the voltage and current overtime to a more "normal" amount. Your argument is an old and doesn't always pertain unless your phone is constantly hot.
You're battery degrades overtime anyway and any heat could speed that up. I used to live in AZ where it gets to 120+[°F] in the summer which is hotter than my battery ever gets even using QC from 1% battery. Quick charging won't hurt your battery any more than normally charging it will. There is a cut off for the temperature it will let your battery get before it drops voltage or amperage which will work whether the what is from charging or the environment you are in. As I stated above qi charging will make your battery heat up more (in my case it does) I will post screenshots to back that up if you would like.
Lastly no one is expecting a battery to last 1-2 years without losing capacity so why worry about it? Your phone is warrantied for at least 1 year (I have moto care on top of the regular warranty) which will cover any battery issues. There's no need to panic or make an issue out of nothing.
Now can we please let this argument die? I keep seeing it and its getting rather old. Even if it does (which I'm not saying it does) degrade slightly faster its not a big deal for the aforementioned reasons. Let's get back on topic here people
The Choetech 4 port usb car charger is a great car charger. It is lightweight, compact and has 4 ports for your tablet and smartphone needs. One of the ports has adaptive fast charging capabilities while the other 3 charge your other devices at a reasonable speed. The other 3 ports also have the capability to detect what phone you have and charge them at there maximum charginging rate. It comes with a qualcomm fast charging usb cable so you dont have to purchase your own or you can use the cable that came with your phone also to fast charge it. As soon as you plug the included usb cable in your phone, the fast charging info in the notification dropdown pops up and lets you know how long it will take to charge your phone to 100%. This car charger has done a great job in doing that compared to my other two car chargers i have and i highly recommend it.
http://www.choetech.com/choetech-multi-4-ports-usb-car-charger-adaptive-fast-charging/
Great product for a family/setting with more than 3 devices on board. Excellent charging response with little to no heat while attached to a Samsung Galaxy Note 4 (quick charge enabled), Motorola Nexus 6 (quick charge enabled), iPad Mini 3 and an Kindle Fire. Saved my vacation!
Now you can get 10% off price for Choetech 51w 4 port qualcomm quickcharge 2.0 car charger
Coupon Code : E4RD2QSD
Expired date : 31st July 2015.
I guess if you have a larger family and you want charging cables all over the place, this would be nice. But I just can't see myself ever using four ports. TOPS would be my wife and I , and I already have a dual port one. Thanks for the review, but I'm going to pass.
Rolander said:
I guess if you have a larger family and you want charging cables all over the place, this would be nice. But I just can't see myself ever using four ports. TOPS would be my wife and I , and I already have a dual port one. Thanks for the review, but I'm going to pass.
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Someone like me in the Ridesharing industry, two cigarette lighters is not enough! This would be perfect so I can have a charger for myself, iPhone passengers, and Android passengers. Then I could use the other port for my dash cam power!
Edit: Nevermind. Seems the cable is not included.
The QC 2.0 port supplies 15w with 9V and 1.67A which seems to be the the requirement of the Samsung S6 fast charge feature (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59794206&postcount=9). I suppose it will enable that feature...
Did you try it on a S6? Is the Fast Charge enabled while connecting the S6 on the QC 2.0 port?
Any concerns about the battery safety?
Thanks
Customer reviews are very good about this product on Amazon. it is mostly compatible with any device. I am going to buy one.
I've just ordered a Aukey quick charger. Won an eBay bid for £5!
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/aukey-dual-usb-qualcomm-quick-charge-2-0-car-charger-p53610.htm
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I snagged their dual port charger, one QC 2.0 Port charge and one auto detect port charge. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00YX7Y3G8/
[Review] Tronsmart QC 2.0 Dual & Quad Port Car chargers, 3 Port QC 2.0 Wall Charger
Tronsmart Quick Charge 2.0 Product Reviews
Disclaimer: I was sent these items in exchange for an unbiased review.
I will update this OP with any changes, issues, or other information as it comes up.
Tronsmart 3 Port 42W Quick Charge 2.0 Wall Travel Charger
Overview
I have accumulated a lot of devices that for better or worse need to be charged during the day sometimes all at once. For this reason, I usually carry a small battery pack or multi-port wall charger, along with some cables, adapters, and various other things. Tronsmart made a nice compact wall charger that is ideal for people who travel or on the go. I usually have a mullti-port charger or two at home (Tronsmart Titan 90W 5 port hub on my desk), and another multi-port hub on my nightstand. I always need more ports for one reason or another hence why I like having the most compact, powerful chargers that I can.
What’s in the box
-Tri-port charger
-Documentation
-Micro USB cable
Build & Design
Tronsmart makes one of my favorite looking chargers out there. The edges have a glossy finish to them that leads you into matte colored body. On one side you will see Tronsmart’s logo along with a small LED light that will light up to indicate when you’re charging. If you look at the opposite side the rated inputs/outputs for each port are specified along with a label for which ports have VoltIQ, and QC 2.0. One of the best features of this charger besides its 3 ports is the folding plug which makes it ideal for traveling/on the go.
Charging
The Quick Charge 2.0 port will allow you to charge any compatible QC 2.0 enabled device at a range of voltages/rates depending on how low the battery is. I was able to charge my S7 Edge at 9V/1.67A just like the stock Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger does. Since the S7 Edge is only rated for 9V/1.67A (15.03W) it won’t charge at a faster rate than that no matter how powerful the charger. The other two ports use VoltIQ which is another way of saying it will tell the device to charge at it’s maximum 5V rate up to 2.4A. I tested this with my S7 Edge and was able to get ~5V/1.7A which is the same output as the factory charger at the battery level I tested. Since this charger is rated for 42W which means each port can output its maximum rate simultaneously for maximum charging efficiency with multiple devices.
Charging breakdown by port
QC 2.0: 5V/2A, 9V/2A, 12V/1.5A
2x Standard Port (with VoltIQ): 5V/2.4A each
Summary
This is yet another great charger from Tronsmart (I have a lot of others that were reviewed as well) that has a nice overall design. This charger has a lot to offer in a small package coupled with a solid build that should last for a long time.
Tronsmart 4 Port Quick Charge 2.0 54W Car Charger
Overview
There is always a time that I need to charge things as I mentioned above when outlets are limited. I have a dash camera in my car that occupies one of my power outlets, so I only have 1 other easily accessible place to plug in a charger. When I go on road trips it’s nice to be able to charge my phone as well as my wife’s along with a tablet or two thanks to the wide array of ports offered with this charger.
What’s in the box
-Tronsmart Quad Port 54W Car Charger
- 3.3[ft] micro USB cable
-Documentation
Build & Design
The charger is made from plastic, but it has a nice texture to it just like the tri-port wall charger. I’ve owned and used another Tronsmart car charger (Type-C/Type-A) since December without any issues. It has really come in handy over the past couple of months thanks to its versatility, just like this one will. While this charger is quite large it packs a punch with its 4 ports while still compact for what it offers. It’s not easy to fit a large number of ports in a charger that has to fit in a confined area, but I like the overall way Tronsmart designed this one. I had no issues fitting the charger in my car, and using all of the ports, but that depends on where your outlet is located.
Charging
I tested each of the ports simultaneously with 3 of my phones, and a battery pack to ensure the charger worked as intended. I had no issues charging all 4 devices from the charger making this ideal for anyone that needs to make use of their car charger.
Charging breakdown by port:
Ports 1,2,3: 5V/2.4A (Max)
Port 4 (QC 2.0) Quick charge 5V/2A, 9V/2A , 12V/1.5A (Max)
Summary
This large 4 port charger might not be for everyone, but if you need to power a large amount of devices simultaneously than it’s an ideal choice due to its large power output.
Tronsmart 36W Dual Port Quick Charge 2.0 Car Charger
Overview
This charger is a much more compact, but still versatile dual port QC 2.0 enabled (on both ports) car charger. The overall quality/materials remain the same as the previous 4 port car charger which is a good thing. I switched from my Type-C/Type-A 33W car charger to this one in order to see how it works, and because I can still charge both my S7 Edge and Nexus 6P from it. So far over the past couple days of using this one I haven’t encountered any issues, but I will update the OP if I do.
What’s in the box
-Tronsmart Dual Port 36W Car Charger
- 2x 3.3[ft] 20AWG micro USB cables
-Documentation
Build & Design
The ports are colored (green or blue usually indicate QC 2.0 on Tronsmart chargers) while the back ports are the standard VoltIQ. For this particular one, both ports are green which is indicative of a QC 2.0 charger. There is ample spacing between both ports to accommodate any size cable that I have including: Tronsmart, Choetech, Aukey, Samsung, Google, i-Orange, Asus, Anker and many others. I haven’t found a set of cables that won’t work side-by-side in this charger. Unlike other chargers, this one doesn’t sit flush with the outlet which to me is a good thing. I always find it hard to remove the chargers that don’t protrude slightly, so I appreciate that part of the design.
Charging
Each port is capable of a 18W output which is the maximum you will ever need on a QC 2.0 enabled device. The S7 Edge can only take 15.03W (9V/1.67A), so this charger will fast charge it at the same rate as the Samsung Adaptive Fast Charger. I tested both ports with my multi-meter to ensure they lived up to their ratings.
Charging breakdown by port:
5V/2A, 9V/2A , 12V/1.5A
Summary
I have no issues with the overall design or build of this car charger, plus with the added versatility of a second QC 2.0 port it has a lot to offer. Not all chargers offer their full power output while charging multiple devices, but thankfully this one does. I don’t see any reason not to recommend it because it’s been great.
Tronsmart Micro USB Cable 6 Pack (20AWG)
Overview
I always need more cables because for some reason I either misplace them, or forget to bring them with me. I like how Tronsmart offers a large pack of cables (6 in this set) in varying sizes depending on what you might need. I usually keep the shortest one (1[ft]) in my backpack to go along with an external battery pack I carry with me. The longer ones usually find their way onto my desk or night stand because it’s nice to have the extra length so I can keep all of my devices separate & not clustered together while charging.
What’s in the box
-1[ft] micro USB cable
-2x 3.3[ft] micro USB cables
-3x 6[ft] micro USB cables
Build & Design
These cables have a larger gauge wire (20AWG) which should decrease the resistance thus allowing for less current drop in the longer variants. The connectors work well with any of my 10+ S7E cases, and they are slightly smaller physically than the Samsung one. You won’t have any issues bending these like some higher gauge cables which makes wrapping them up for storage easy.
Charging
I tested each cable length via my multi-meter to see if there was any current/voltage drop while charging my phone. I did not see any measurable drop even for the longer 6[ft] cable, so you should be able to fast charge your phone with any of them without sacrificing cable length.
Summary
I’ve actually owned a pack of these for a while now before receiving this set, and I’ve enjoyed using them. I haven’t had any of them break, fail, or otherwise suffer from flaws during my 5 months using the previous set. I enjoy the large variety of sizes offered because it allows you use a cable that suits your needs rather than one that’s too long/short.
Nice chargers. Quick chargers are very convenient. But where are the product links?
jisddwqs said:
Nice chargers. Quick chargers are very convenient. But where are the product links?
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They were omitted because XDA likes to close OP's and mark them as spam if you include the product links as I've found out.
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A comprehensive review, the chargers' design are nice, I like the round edges and corners.
Gold-plated cables seems high-end, I will search and try one of those chargers & cables.
yes it is a pity that XDA doesn't like to paste the links in the topics but what if we would google them and find them ebay or amazon and they are clones or fake.
so when connected in the car with 12V it gives 1.5A to instead of 2.4A?
Is this as good as the ones from Aukey?
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A comprehensive review, the chargers' design are nice, I like the round edges and corners.
Gold-plated cables seems high-end, I will search and try one of those chargers & cables.
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The cables are all still working great; I have them in various areas to charge my numerous devices, headphones etc.
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yes it is a pity that XDA doesn't like to paste the links in the topics but what if we would google them and find them ebay or amazon and they are clones or fake.
so when connected in the car with 12V it gives 1.5A to instead of 2.4A?
Is this as good as the ones from Aukey?
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It is unfortunate, and as much as I would like to post them I can't without having the OP get locked like some others I've written up. Even when I buy products and link them it raises flags for some reason, bht thags neither here nor there
The input rating if the charger is different than the output. I charged a AC 2.0 batter pack at 12V/1.5A which is the highest 12V rate that the charger is rated for. I have a Power Partners 30W single port QC 2.0 charger somewhere that will output somewhere around that in terms of the 12V but I've never tested it.
so when used in a car with 12v sigarette lighter plug it will never get higher then 1.5A or is it only this one? Are there other chargers that get more amps though that 12v port then this one?
The reason I ask is because when my phone is connected to the 12v car charger it does not get charged while using it with max brightness, gps, 4g, 2 or 3 apps at the same time, ...
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so when used in a car with 12v sigarette lighter plug it will never get higher then 1.5A or is it only this one? Are there other chargers that get more amps though that 12v port then this one?
The reason I ask is because when my phone is connected to the 12v car charger it does not get charged while using it with max brightness, gps, 4g, 2 or 3 apps at the same time, ...
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As I mentioned the input current will be at 12V from the car, but it can also output at 12V via the QC standard. I can charge 2 phones (1 on each port with multimeters connected) to see he max current I can draw which should be the rated 33W if I recall correctly.
Great info you have here. lol
This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.
wu5262 said:
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
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I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%
Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.
I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?
Thugsin313 said:
Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.
Thx for the Link:good:
Yes BUT!!!... lol
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after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
LormaD said:
What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier
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I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.
I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.
So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.
Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol
I have noticed that my stockpile of "fast" chargers I have acquired and used with my LG G8 do not enable the "charging rapidly" notification I get on the Pixel 5a.
Do I need to purchase a new set of USB-PD chargers for car & a/c outlet in order to achieve the fastest charging.
My current quick charge 3.0 adaptors make this phone say "charging" and not "rapidly"
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I have noticed that my stockpile of "fast" chargers I have acquired and used with my LG G8 do not enable the "charging rapidly" notification I get on the Pixel 5a.
Do I need to purchase a new set of USB-PD chargers for car & a/c outlet in order to achieve the fastest charging.
My current quick charge 3.0 adaptors make this phone say "charging" and not "rapidly"
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Probably. If your current chargers don't support PD then you won't charge at max speeds. And if your current chargers are using USB-a, meaning you need a USB-a to USB-c cable you're definitely not fast charging.
I can recommend Anker products. The Nano pro is a sweet tiny charger.
Anker's PowerIQ vs Quick Charge vs Power Delivery: What are the differences? - Dignited
With a lot of competiting charging standards, It's quite hard to choose what's best for your device. PowerIQ, Quick Charge and USB PD are the most popular choices today
www.dignited.com
I have anker products already however they are using the older type-A connection. its a shame that google will only allow rapid charging via USB-PD spec and not the older QC-QC3.0 spec.
anker car chargers that support PD are not cheap either but I guess I should future proof myself
Considering that the 5a is only capable of charging at a maximum of 18W (9Vx2A) I am pretty sure the USB-A to USB-C cable will work, if you can find a PD charger that uses USB-A. The reality is that you will probably need to buy a PD car charger, and a USB-C to USB-C cable. I'm in the same boat. There are quite a few options, with PD and QC and 2.1A/2.4A USB charging all in a single charger, on Amazon and the usual suspects. I think the real disappointment is that the 5a only charges at 18W. The upside is that the phone not only has a huge battery but it has adaptive charging so will slow charge overnight - fast charging being bad for battery life.
You should look for a USB-C "charging" cable. Charging cables have larger wires for lower loss in the cable, but also are often USB 2 speeds for data, which is fine for dedicated charging use. It is also possible to find USB 3 charging cables. There are a number of different USB-C cables out there, including special ones with an IC to support Thunderbolt. Be sure to mark the capability of each one you buy. It is a bit of a mess.
Quick Charge works well but is not strictly consistent with the USB spec (although it does not interfere with USB operation). IIRC QC uses analog voltage levels on the signal lines to control the supply voltage. IIUC PD uses a digital handshake. I for one have been happy with QC but am glad to move to PD for phone and eventually laptop and tablet. Recent announcements extend PD from today's 100W max up to 240W max.
Android 12 looks to have tweaked Pixel Adaptive Charging so phones reach 100% closer to alarm
Pixel users have had hit or miss experiences with Adaptive Charging, and Google now looks to have tweaked how it works on Android 12...
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this article explains a lot. I have been using adaptive charging for the "slow" overnight on my 2nd day of use since the battery has so much capacity. I woke up the other night because of a thunderstorm and noticed my phone was already at 100% 5 hours before my alarm was set to go off. Another night I woke up to use the bathroom, around 3 hours after I had went to sleep and plugged in phone, verified it said adaptive initially and now it said rapidly! Why would a phone switch to rapidly charging in the middle of the night. I might just dig out an OLD slow charger brick from the basement cave to prevent this overnight mystery from a gimmick feature.
Will post back when I acquire a car charger capable of "rapid" charging which 18w seems plenty fast to me for most road trips.
undivide said:
Android 12 looks to have tweaked Pixel Adaptive Charging so phones reach 100% closer to alarm
Pixel users have had hit or miss experiences with Adaptive Charging, and Google now looks to have tweaked how it works on Android 12...
9to5google.com
this article explains a lot. I have been using adaptive charging for the "slow" overnight on my 2nd day of use since the battery has so much capacity. I woke up the other night because of a thunderstorm and noticed my phone was already at 100% 5 hours before my alarm was set to go off. Another night I woke up to use the bathroom, around 3 hours after I had went to sleep and plugged in phone, verified it said adaptive initially and now it said rapidly! Why would a phone switch to rapidly charging in the middle of the night. I might just dig out an OLD slow charger brick from the basement cave to prevent this overnight mystery from a gimmick feature.
Will post back when I acquire a car charger capable of "rapid" charging which 18w seems plenty fast to me for most road trips.
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I actually have a car charger that triggers the 'Charging rapidly' notification. I would link to it at Amazon, but I bought over a year ago and it appears they no longer have that item in their stock. You need to make sure on those that they have a USB-C port on them labeled "PD3.0" or I believe that makes them incompatible. The search term I used there was
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usb c car charger pd 3.0 21w
The 5a uses a USB-PD 2.0 charge protocol, not PD 3.0. Any USB-PD charger should work, as there were very few v1 devices ever made. When buying a car charger I recommend a charger with at least two ports: a PD charge port (USB-C) and a QC charge port (USB-A). The latest ones will support PD 2/3, PD 3 PPS, and QC 4 (and even 4+ and 5) on the USB-C port, and QC 2/3 plus several other protocols with the USB-A port. That pretty much covers the great majority of smart phones. I just bought a three port (2xUSB-C, 1xUSB-A) car charger. The USB-C ports are identical except that one is 30W (for phones) and the other is 100W (for laptops and tablets, or another phone). Note that increasingly new devices are requiring the PD 3.0 PPS, and there are fewer chargers available that support that. Also, higher power charging requires a special cable with a supporting IC inside so I ordered the package that included charger and cable.
My order: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005003400586617.html
A good 2 port car charger with 65W PD: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005002851748989.html
As has been stated, a USB-C Power Delivery compliant charger is required to charge at the maximum 18 watt rate.
Power Delivery is a USB-IF standard, whereas Quick Charge is a Qualcomm proprietary standard.