For the third year in a row my Samsung phone has a fingerprint sensor that's all scratched up, because Samsung continues to coat the sensors with plastic while OnePlus coats theirs with ceramic or glass. In the meantime, I've taken to covering my sensor with a piece of Scotch tape, and it still works, but I'm just curious if there is a more elegant solution?
Didn't know it still works with tape on it.. I might try some clear coat nail polish or auto grade clear coat dipped onto a brush.
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I used to have a small glass protector for both the fingerprint reader and the rear camera on my S8+. Si my guess is that if there none yet, there should be something soon enough
Ive seen glass for the camera but not the FPS.
If i may ask how the hell are you scratching these so often?
I don't know how well they work, but some skins come with a small skin for the scanner. It has a small cut out in the center for scanning, so most of it is covered. I have a skinit skin that came with one(but I haven't used it), but I think I also saw that dbrand has them too. It would help to hide ur scratches, but I dont know how well the scanner would work with just a small area to read fingerprint!
force70 said:
Ive seen glass for the camera but not the FPS.
If i may ask how the hell are you scratching these so often?
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No idea. Life is messy; things happen.
lost0138 said:
Didn't know it still works with tape on it.. I might try some clear coat nail polish or auto grade clear coat dipped onto a brush.
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That's a good idea, I'll try that.
I wished I found out about the scotch tape idea because that's such a quick, easy, and convenient preventative measure to protect the scanner from being easily scratched!
force70 said:
Ive seen glass for the camera but not the FPS.
If i may ask how the hell are you scratching these so often?
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Maybe they're trying to be the next Jerryrigeverything? /s
Glass protectors for fingerprint scanners would render the fingerprint scanner useless. As most current fingerprint scanners with the exception of thoses, which are designed to work under glass won't be able to work with a glass protector on them.
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Glass protectors for fingerprint scanners would render the fingerprint scanner useless. As most current fingerprint scanners with the exception of thoses, which are designed to work under glass won't be able to work with a glass protector on them.
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I mean if it could work under glass they would put them under our phone's screens, oh wait....
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The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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The glass covering the camera lens at the back is protruding so putting it down on any surface would make the glass touch it...how do you guys keep it from scratching?
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A case that's raised more than the camera is what I'm doing. Have done this for years without ever having my lens scratch.
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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When I pick mine up from the shop I'll be leaving the plastic on - my S4 has a gaping scratch across its camera lense!
Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
/ Magnus
lawtq said:
I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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The plastic never covered over the sensor itself, only the outside edges.
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
Though I have not used any case or screen protector for the front screen, I have cut exact size glossy screen protector for the camera lens. I developed lots of scratches in S2 lens, from then on I started protecting camera lenses.
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If you look carefully the platic frame around the glass is just slightly above the glass so really the glass doesn't make contact with a flat surface
The Samsung s-view case is just big enough to keep the lens from touching. It's a good option if you are concerned about the lens getting scratched and want front of phone protection.
If the plastic cover doesn't affect the photos then chances are the odd scratch won't either..
Wife has S5 and glass on the lens seems pretty tough! No scratches yet!
When not using my Note 4, I shoot pictures with high end Nikon glass (lenses). Some will say to put a plain UV filter on the lens as a means of protection, never go naked. Others will ask why would one put an $80 piece of glass in front of finely tuned and crafted $2,500 piece of glass? Additionally, all those large sport photographer lenses you see taking photos.......no filters are made that size, they use hoods which extend several inches from the front of the lens as a means of protection. Now, given the camera in the Note 4 is not a high end DLSR you may not see the difference all that much, depending on the shot. However adding some form of adhoc protector over the camera will certainly cause some form of photo degradation.
If you have a phone case where the camera lens is recessed you should be perfectly fine if: (1) you pay attention how and where you place it down and (2) keep it out of your pants, bags...etc that hold keys and your loose change..etc.
Remove any added plastic or glass in front of your lens; take clearer and sharper pictures!
Goodluck
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
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I'm keeping the protective little plastic cover over it. Took it off to see if any difference in pic quality and there was none.
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I didn't even know there was one those lol I put a skinomi skin on mine hoping that it's raised just enough xD
Well, my first tip would be to not place your note 4 on a textured surface, press it down into the textured surface and then rubbing it vigorously against it, with your pressure RIGHT on the lens.
Other than that, just use it normally. Dont keep it in a bag of quarters, dont hack at it with nails, dont keep it with your keys in a pocket... The usual nobrainer things.
Should be totally fine. When I place it on a table, the lens doesnt touch the table.
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Normally there should be no need to worry unless you intend to drag your phone across a rocky road. It's protected by a veryt scratchresistant glass, simlar to sapphire glass. It can stand a heavy beating and still perform.
The only real problem is fat from your fingers smearing onto the protective glass, this will cause weird looking arefacts with highlights so make sure you keep it clean.
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/thread - really, the glass on the camera lens is the strongest glass you will find on your mobile device - applies to any phone.
Couldn't resist...cut out an extra screen protector and stuck it on the camera glass lol
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Correct. Good protection. Or you could get the Nillkin Amazing H+ 9H Hardness Anti-Explosion Tempered Glass*for the note 4, it comes with 2 mini tempered glass camera lense protectors
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Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
DrDank said:
Never heard of this before.. Have Otterbox but realized my camera lens for smashed today while outside doing yard work... This what you use? Installation hard? Got URL? Thanks in advance.
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I liked it. Gad the halo effect though unfortunately. But loved the 2 little camera screen protector too! Easy install.
Sorry, don't d have much time to search, url anyone it could i get camera protection for otterbox?
If yes,, anyway to polish it? ,Is there any protector for it?
Its plastic, so yes.
tamerh said:
If yes,, anyway to polish it? ,Is there any protector for it?
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It must be. My gf has Note 8 and has long nails. She has few scratches on hers. I would think all of them are. I put anti scratch screen protector on cam lens. I would imagine they have them for fingerprint? Idk never looked.
With normal use it be OK. No scratch al all after 4 month of use...
Yup. Both my S8+ and my Note 8 have light scratches on the FP sensor. And you can't put a screen protector or skin over it. I tried and the FP sensor won't work with anything on it.
Even if you scratch it, the FP sensor will still work. Watch the jerry rig everything guy scratch it in his durability test. He almost takes all the finish off and it still worked just fine.
My s9 plus is a month old and I can see very minor hairline scratch on it seen under bright light from single angle. It kinda bothers me to be honest, tried 3 different type of tape protectors on it and it doesnt work with any of them on. Only works naked. Don't know why Samsung didn't cover it in matte finish. Or made it of glass.
There is no avoiding few scratches on the fingerprint scanner. If ur gonna use it, its gonna scratch. U can disable the fingerprint scanner put protector on it and use intelligent unlock but this beats the purpose of buying a flagship phone.
I really need to Learn how to accept and live with scratches.
Actually I found a solution to protect the fingerprint scanner. Few min ago I tried packing and packaging tape. The one used to wrap boxes and it worked. Just cut a very small piece but most importantly make sure it's very clear and transparent. If the area covering the fingerprint scanner is not clear the scanner wont function. Also make sure it's not too thick.
So far it works. But my experiencing with packaging tape is that it has tendency to leave residues when removed. Will see later if this is the case or not.
Anyone find that the fps easy to scratch? .. Is there any sticker protector?
I don't know that. what i do know is that if you apply a sticker protector, you won't be able to use it, because it won't detect the fingerprint. Confirmed by me.
The FPS on my S8+ scratched very easy. No issues on my Note 8 or my Note 9.
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Anyone find that the fps easy to scratch? .. Is there any sticker protector?
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Here's a couple of low-budget suggestions,good luck:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-note-9/help/fingerprint-sensor-tempered-glass-t3857053
I actually really like the Scotch tape idea. I put a matte skin on the back of mine because I wanted it to match the matte frame. Even the camera lenses glass has a matte skin on it, so the shiny fingerprint sensor kind of stood out. Now it also has a matte finish and works just as well as before! Win-win
cereal86 said:
I don't know that. what i do know is that if you apply a sticker protector, you won't be able to use it, because it won't dectect the fingerprint. Confirmed by me.
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Ah, but it won't get scratched!
Because this is my first phone with a protruding rear camera so I started to worry about protection. Are there any protection of rear camera in modern phones?
Piospi said:
Because this is my first phone with a protruding rear camera so I started to worry about protection. Are there any protection of rear camera in modern phones?
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Get a case that protects it.
The Spigen case protects the camera nicely
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The Spigen case protects the camera nicely
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I have this case but I was thinking about some glass for rear camera
Piospi said:
I have this case but I was thinking about some glass for rear camera
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Ah I see!
Then perhaps this is what you may like:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/193457244169
AUNEOS Xperia 1 II Camera Film
I got this.
Anything you put on camera glass would mess with Zeiss coating. It's counter productive tbh to pay for a feature (i.e. Zeiss coating) but then handicap it. I'd just get a good case with raised edges around cameras to protect and leave the glass alone
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Anything you put on camera glass would mess with Zeiss coating. It's counter productive tbh to pay for a feature (i.e. Zeiss coating) but then handicap it. I'd just get a good case with raised edges around cameras to protect and leave the glass alone
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How can it mess with the coating ? as its inside on lenses and not on glasss on the back ?
Marvido said:
How can it mess with the coating ? as its inside on lenses and not on glasss on the back ?
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Lens glass and coating is extremely important for the quality of the light that passes through. By putting another layer of glass or plastic or whatever on top of already coated and optimized glass, you are interfering with flow of light
mehdi_s82 said:
Lens glass and coating is extremely important for the quality of the light that passes through. By putting another layer of glass or plastic or whatever on top of already coated and optimized glass, you are interfering with flow of light
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Well i dont know if it has something to say or not...no idea about stuff like that tbh. But i bet its better than risk a scratched lense glass from pocket sand, a drop and etc...
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Well i dont know if it has something to say or not...no idea about stuff like that tbh. But i bet its better than risk a scratched lense glass from pocket sand, a drop and etc...
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Agree.. I have already stick a transparent film on my rear camera.. no issue. happy with my Xperia 1 II
In fact i'm looking for something like this:
http://nillkin.org/search/?search=CamShield%20&limit=100
But they don't have for Sony brand. I have already sent a message to the website but no reply at all.
If i got transparent case (because i like the original purple mirror color) with a slider protection for the rear camera, i will definitively remove the film protection then.
If anyone know a brand similar to the CamShield type, it will be great. Thanks
I bought this glass camera protector from Japanese Amazon. Shipping was actually really fast to the US. It fits the camera module perfectly. It does attract fingerprints a bit more than the camera glass itself but it's very easy to wipe clean.
Tried to search for a thread talking about tempered glass screen protectors for S21 ultra and had no luck. Anybody have good recommendations for a decent one that's priced well?
I bought this screen protector from Amazon. It fits great: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B08RYXF8F6/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I know it's definitely worth it for the phone but anything a little cheaper. $40 is completely reasonable for two especially because it's a $1200 phone
Get a good case with raised guards around the screen and good corner protection.
That should be your primary screen protection.
That plus a wet apply urethane screen protector works fine.
Glass does not compress and is subject to the laws of hydraulics. It can behave in strange and seemingly unpredictable ways to stress.
anish88 said:
I know it's definitely worth it for the phone but anything a little cheaper. $40 is completely reasonable for two especially because it's a $1200 phone
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Spigen has one for 30
blackhawk said:
Get a good case with raised guards around the screen and good corner protection.
That should be your primary screen protection.
That plus a wet apply urethane screen protector works fine.
Glass does not compress and is subject to the laws of hydraulics. It can behave in strange and seemingly unpredictable ways to stress.
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Definitely agree with that! Does the camera need protection as well?
anish88 said:
Definitely agree with that! Does the camera need protection as well?
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A raised case guard around the module and just keep your fingers off it.
The outside glass is the factory lense guard; it's replaceable. I operated my 10+ like this for almost a year and a half. I clean it with a dry microfiber cloth as needed. It's made of plastic. No scratches on it whatsoever... and I like in a dusty desert town.
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A raised case guard around the module and just keep your fingers off it.
The outside glass is the factory lense guard; it's replaceable. I operated my 10+ like this for almost a year and a half. I clean it with a dry microfiber cloth as needed. It's made of plastic. No scratches on it whatsoever... and I like in a dusty desert town.
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It's replaceable? Is that easy? I have a raised case but im coming from an s9+ and didn't protect that which was fine. I just want to protect it as well as I can.
Also I found a deal for the amfilm protector if you guys want.
Galaxy S21 Ultra
(2 Pack) amFilm Tempered Glass Screen Protector for Galaxy S21 Ultra [amazon.com] 5G 6.8 Inch, Fully Compatible with UltraSonic Fingerprint Scanner, UV Gel Application
20% off Coupon Code to make final price $19.99 use code: Q3HIKIHR
Plus this 30% OFF Universal Claim code (For Galaxy S21 products): MLIX9RW8
Brought it to 19.99
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It's replaceable? Is that easy? I have a raised case but im coming from an s9+ and didn't protect that which was fine. I just want to protect it as well as I can.
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Not sure how it's mounted on that phone. The 10+'s looks like it uses a adhesive strip and pops out. Might need to replace the back panel though.
You'll probably need to replace the battery long before the lense guard.
Not sure why people focus on this as with a good case it's well protected and relatively easy to replace. The display and frame are not...
Phone fell out of my pants pocket in the car. Hit the seat and the metal guard underneath the seat. Glass scratched on screen already....needless to say that just about anything will scratch the glass that is metal
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Glass scratched on screen already....needless to say that just about anything will scratch the glass that is metal
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Can you elaborate - what was the situation with your screen?
1) did you scratch the pre-installed protector the phone shipped with, and the glass screen underneath is still fine?
2) did you scratch the naked gorilla glass screen because you had peeled off the pre-installed protector?
3) did you install your own glass protector, and that's what scratched here?
4) other situation?
Samsung pre-installs a plastic film screen protector for you, so dont flip out about small scratches on the display.
WHITESTONE DOME , always Whitestone Dome. I spend >1300 on a phone, you're G**damn right I'm gonna drop 75-90 on my glass cover.
The new one is almost totally automated. These guys are incredible. When I've dropped my phones in the past, the WSDome cracks, but never my phone screen. Just sayin.
white stone is now 45.99 on amazon along with a camera cover package... for those curious enough to try... like me... I feel like it works for 50% of the people and the rest of us will be sad after we put it on... I hope you 50% are not lying.. special place in hell for you if you are.... I've been using a tpu type film.. although its ok for finger prints.. it feels different than glass and smudges are harder to clean. and every time it there's an angle you see all kinds of marks on it... so annoying... I guess I can't handle it any longer and am willing to bite the bullet.... wish me luck....
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white stone is now 45.99 on amazon along with a camera cover package... for those curious enough to try... like me... I feel like it works for 50% of the people and the rest of us will be sad after we put it on... I hope you 50% are not lying.. special place in hell for you if you are.... I've been using a tpu type film.. although its ok for finger prints.. it feels different than glass and smudges are harder to clean. and every time it there's an angle you see all kinds of marks on it... so annoying... I guess I can't handle it any longer and am willing to bite the bullet.... wish me luck....
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I have the amFilm version of this and it's definitely the way to go.
That's a decent deal and I suggest to buy it and try it. Hold onto the installation kit and light that comes with it. After you go through the 2 included glass screens, you can buy new LOCA glue screens on ebay for cheap and use the installation kit and light from the Whitestone.
How's the fingerprint detection? Even the expensive Whitestone has people complaining about fingerprint detection...and for the money that's crazy. It should work 90% of the time for the money they want. I may try the amfilm
AMFILM codes don't work anymore
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How's the fingerprint detection? Even the expensive Whitestone has people complaining about fingerprint detection...and for the money that's crazy. It should work 90% of the time for the money they want. I may try the amfilm
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I'm happy with fingerprint detection for the most part. It's a tough time of year weather-wise. When hands are dry, its harder to read, and thats true for any fingerprint scanner. Instead of registering 4 different fingers, I register each thumb in 2 spots which increases my detection rate. When fingers are not as dry, detection is extremely quick, like having no screen protector. I imagine the amFilm and Whitestone are pretty identical as far as the glass and LOCA glue. The installation kits look a little bit different. Whitestone dome has been around for a while and i think this type of protector is newer for amFilm. I've been using the regular amFilm tempered glass on many other phones and have been happy with them. And their customer service is top notch.
I was not going to bother with a glass protector due to the warnings about the fingerprint scanner but someone sent me a link to an install video that mentions the FP scanner. They recommend hard pressing the area for 15-30 seconds before curing with UV light. Afterwards, he demonstrates FP scanner working really well. I've ordered the screen protector after watching that.
Link to the part of video when he tests it.