Like many of you, I stood in queue at T-Mobile to get the 6T at Times Square. While there's controversy surrounding the bootloader unlock, I'm not too fussed about that since I paid outright and didn't trade in any devices.
What I am fussed about however, is the quality of the photos I've taken with the 6T. It looks like it isn't capturing true colours with auto mode. I'm sure I can get amazing shots if I dial it in, but I didn't think the auto mode would be this off. Take a look for yourself, top picture is the 6T and the bottom is taken with my wife's iPhone XS Max.
https://i.imgur.com/iDM9Q5w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KbHQarQ.jpg
It appears as if the 6T's shots are washed and dark. I'm not a photographer by any means, but I know a good shot when I see one. Both were taken seconds from each other, auto mode, point and shoot. My car wrap is satin purple, satin dark grey, and gloss silver. It wasn't exactly bright outside but there was plenty of light for a good shot to go through. Clearly the iPhone took the better shot here.. but it looks like this is the case for all the photos I've taken on the 6T. Pictures are a bit off and portray inaccurate colours.
Anyone else having this issue?
AhsanU said:
Like many of you, I stood in queue at T-Mobile to get the 6T at Times Square. While there's controversy surrounding the bootloader unlock, I'm not too fussed about that since I paid outright and didn't trade in any devices.
What I am fussed about however, is the quality of the photos I've taken with the 6T. It looks like it isn't capturing true colours with auto mode. I'm sure I can get amazing shots if I dial it in, but I didn't think the auto mode would be this off. Take a look for yourself, top picture is the 6T and the bottom is taken with my wife's iPhone XS Max.
https://i.imgur.com/iDM9Q5w.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/KbHQarQ.jpg
It appears as if the 6T's shots are washed and dark. I'm not a photographer by any means, but I know a good shot when I see one. Both were taken seconds from each other, auto mode, point and shoot. My car wrap is satin purple, satin dark grey, and gloss silver. It wasn't exactly bright outside but there was plenty of light for a good shot to go through. Clearly the iPhone took the better shot here.. but it looks like this is the case for all the photos I've taken on the 6T. Pictures are a bit off and portray inaccurate colours.
Anyone else having this issue?
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The tmobile 6T has not received any of the update from oneplus yet. Its still on Oxygen OS 9.0.
Oneplus has pushed update to Oxygen OS 9.0.4 with fixes to camera and other things.
The best way of comparing the photos from two phone is by sending a photo to the another phone and check the difference. The reason for this is to check on a single device, as each device might have tweak the display colour calibration differently like one on rgb and other on dci-p. So, if check on each device one photo might be washout.
Just my experience.
I'm new to the OnePlus world - going to trade in my Note5 for the 6T, despite the lack of headphone jack and no wireless charging (which I said I'd never do without again). The $300 trade in is just too much of a good offer. Anyone know if OP does things like tweak the camera software to address things like this?
harpin14789 said:
The tmobile 6T has not received any of the update from oneplus yet. Its still on Oxygen OS 9.0.
Oneplus has pushed update to Oxygen OS 9.0.4 with fixes to camera and other things.
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I've noticed this as well, and it is alarming. I see that 9.0.4 is being pushed out and the 6T that several YouTubers have is 9.0.3, so I'm guessing these T-Mobile phones that were given to us are very old and never were updated, and T-Mobile is not pushing the update.
I'm on the brink of returning this phone because I don't want to deal with the headache of version mismatch/delayed updates to Oxygen OS. On the other hand, I have absolutely no plans on staying on standard Oxygen OS and will be flashing custom ROM's as soon as they're available. My only scare is that developers may be required to create multiple versions to make their ROM work with the T-Mobile variant, which means less variety for me as a flash addict.
Actually, I'm just going to return it. I don't mind ordering it from OnePlus tomorrow morning and getting it next week (priority shipping + processing times means if we order it Thursday morning, we'll get it Tuesday/Wednesday next week). T-Mobile's got a good deal for those that need the trade in credit, but I don't need it and don't need the headaches that come with branded phones. I got some goodies from them, and some experiences that I won't forget (an Asian guy that was waiting in queue was telling people that were walking by that the wait was to see Justin Bieber/Ricky Ricardo etc. and it was hilarious) but ultimately, I want the normal phone everyone's getting. Plus, no taxes and it's cheaper from OnePlus' website = a win in my book.
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I've noticed this as well, and it is alarming. I see that 9.0.4 is being pushed out and the 6T that several YouTubers have is 9.0.3, so I'm guessing these T-Mobile phones that were given to us are very old and never were updated, and T-Mobile is not pushing the update.
I'm on the brink of returning this phone because I don't want to deal with the headache of version mismatch/delayed updates to Oxygen OS. On the other hand, I have absolutely no plans on staying on standard Oxygen OS and will be flashing custom ROM's as soon as they're available. My only scare is that developers may be required to create multiple versions to make their ROM work with the T-Mobile variant, which means less variety for me as a flash addict.
Actually, I'm just going to return it. I don't mind ordering it from OnePlus tomorrow morning and getting it next week (priority shipping + processing times means if we order it Thursday morning, we'll get it Tuesday/Wednesday next week). T-Mobile's got a good deal for those that need the trade in credit, but I don't need it and don't need the headaches that come with branded phones. I got some goodies from them, and some experiences that I won't forget (an Asian guy that was waiting in queue was telling people that were walking by that the wait was to see Justin Bieber/Ricky Ricardo etc. and it was hilarious) but ultimately, I want the normal phone everyone's getting. Plus, no taxes and it's cheaper from OnePlus' website = a win in my book.
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I plan on doing the same. It's no fun getting the device early just to realize you won't be getting timely updates. I feel like T-Mobile sucked the fun out of buying a OnePlus device.
See if the Gcam port for OP6 will make it better.
https://www.xda-developers.com/download-stable-pixel-3-google-camera-port-oneplus-6/
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See if the Gcam port for OP6 will make it better.
https://www.xda-developers.com/download-stable-pixel-3-google-camera-port-oneplus-6/
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I installed the camera, and it focuses a bit better.. but I'll snap some pics tomorrow to compare the two cameras and we'll see where we land in terms of colour accuracy.
I am sure this won't be an issue once custom ROM's come out..
I wonder if, once you unlock the bootloader, you can convert the T-Mobile variants to the unlocked variant via a stock firmware file.
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I wonder if, once you unlock the bootloader, you can convert the T-Mobile variants to the unlocked variant via a stock firmware file.
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You probably can, but getting to the unlocking of the bootloader on the tmo variant is harder than the global version.
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You probably can, but getting to the unlocking of the bootloader on the tmo variant is harder than the global version.
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If you own it outright, the only difference is you have to submit a request to OnePlus to get the bin file to unlock.
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If you own it outright, the only difference is you have to submit a request to OnePlus to get the bin file to unlock.
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Well, there is tax applied and only single sim on the tmo variant .
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Well, there is tax applied and only single sim on the tmo variant .
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I'm betting that once it is unlocked, and OOS from OnePlus is installed, that that second sim will be active. OP selling these phones as cheap as they are, im almost positive they didn't run two separate production runs.
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I was one of the impatient people that tried to cancel their order for the developer edition (sent an email) and ran out on Friday morning and bought the ATT version. The next I noticed that orders were being shipped (mine being one of them). Long story short, I rented the ATT one for the $35 restocking fee for the weekend and now have my dev. edition in my hands.
I noticed one person mention a yellow tint to thier screen, and when I compared my phone to the ATT, sure enough it was very apparent. I have heard and come up with a few reasons why looking around online. I want to get your thoughts on what is causing this, if it will go away and if you can see it in yours. With that said I compared to my wife's S3 and it is still a load better than her screen in every way.
1. The phone was just recently built and the glue is still drying - not sure if I buy that one but it is a theory
2. Defective screens - could be, but I would think that would be easy to spot in any quality control process... no dead pixels that I can see (or stuck) but a uniform yellow tint across the entire screen
3. Could it be the ATT software tweaks that make thier's whiter? I almost feels like the "temperature" of the screen has just shifted toward a yellow / warm. Could this be the default screen settings and ATT actually did something GOOD to the phone rather than just installing apps, etc. Do they even have this ability?
Either way - I am going to keep the developer phone. If it is glue it will dry, if it is defective I will wait for stock to build up and exchange with LetsTalk, and if it is something ATT did, I will wait for a custom ROM to allow me to configure the settings.
Curious to everyone else's thoughts... and if they notice the same thing (or are able to compare to T-Mobile, etc)
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I was one of the impatient people that tried to cancel their order for the developer edition (sent an email) and ran out on Friday morning and bought the ATT version. The next I noticed that orders were being shipped (mine being one of them). Long story short, I rented the ATT one for the $35 restocking fee for the weekend and now have my dev. edition in my hands.
I noticed one person mention a yellow tint to thier screen, and when I compared my phone to the ATT, sure enough it was very apparent. I have heard and come up with a few reasons why looking around online. I want to get your thoughts on what is causing this, if it will go away and if you can see it in yours. With that said I compared to my wife's S3 and it is still a load better than her screen in every way.
1. The phone was just recently built and the glue is still drying - not sure if I buy that one but it is a theory
2. Defective screens - could be, but I would think that would be easy to spot in any quality control process... no dead pixels that I can see (or stuck) but a uniform yellow tint across the entire screen
3. Could it be the ATT software tweaks that make thier's whiter? I almost feels like the "temperature" of the screen has just shifted toward a yellow / warm. Could this be the default screen settings and ATT actually did something GOOD to the phone rather than just installing apps, etc. Do they even have this ability?
Either way - I am going to keep the developer phone. If it is glue it will dry, if it is defective I will wait for stock to build up and exchange with LetsTalk, and if it is something ATT did, I will wait for a custom ROM to allow me to configure the settings.
Curious to everyone else's thoughts... and if they notice the same thing (or are able to compare to T-Mobile, etc)
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Well I'm not owning a HTC phone, but I had a yellow tint issue with my Xperia S(it happened to the fresh new ones, just after it was launched, some said the same thing you said at 1. (glue still drying), but the effects are still visible now, and the phone is 1 year old already. So, it may be something similar here. I am sorry for not being able to confirm as I don't have the phone, but I'm giving some info...
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mine looks normal to me
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I am not sure if these really do the difference justice... but it is clear a day when side by side in person.
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I am not sure if these really do the difference justice... but it is clear a day when side by side in person.
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The Dev edition is Warmer while the ATT is cooler. I can clearly see the difference. I'll have to compare the dev edition when it arrives tom to the T-mobile version.
I have an AT&T version and a 32GB unlocked and the color temperature of the 32GB unlocked is definitely a little warmer. I don't have any professional instruments so I can't measure the white point and tell you whether the AT&T version is too cold or the unlocked version is too warm, but honestly, if I didn't put them side by side, I don't think I would have noticed.
As to the cause, it could be simple device to device variance. Maybe some AT&T versions have a warmer color temperature as well. Or maybe the AT&T is using a panel from a different manufacturer. Or it could be the firmware. The AT&T version is running 1.26 and the unlocked version is on 1.29 with a slightly newer kernel. Maybe the warmer temperature is part of the newer software and the AT&T version will be that way too when it gets the update. Who knows.
I got the 32 gb unlocked today and it looks cooler like the att version in the pictures
There was a thread posted before talking about how the htc one may have different screen manufacturer's. So some may have a Samsung screen, other sharp etc etc.
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warning to all!!!: 1st off the camera on this device is NOT what it was described as. unless the lighting is absolutely perfect, the pictures are FULL of noise and grain. i purchased this device with $40 worth of accessories. it was shipped to me 2 days LATE also. i went to return it and One Plus REFUSED to return/refund my accessories because i opened them.
if you want to try this phone out and dont care about the camera quality go for it...but you have been warned. also, if you are at all curious - DONT buy anything with it. because you won't get your money back
Very glad I read the return policies before I purchased my OP5. Unless there is something you aren't telling us, like damage to the accessories or missing packaging, OP should be refunding you 85% of the purchase price for those. Unless, of course, you are outside the return window...
I have a suspicion there is more to this than you're letting on.
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Very glad I read the return policies before I purchased my OP5. Unless there is something you aren't telling us, like damage to the accessories or missing packaging, OP should be refunding you 85% of the purchase price for those. Unless, of course, you are outside the return window...
I have a suspicion there is more to this than you're letting on.
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Damn....with OP3T, it was 100% return...
Turn of the hdr mode and go for it
The hdr pictures are full noise and motion.. But hdr off or hq mode are good quality
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warning to all!!!: 1st off the camera on this device is NOT what it was described as. unless the lighting is absolutely perfect, the pictures are FULL of noise and grain. i purchased this device with $40 worth of accessories. it was shipped to me 2 days LATE also. i went to return it and One Plus REFUSED to return/refund my accessories because i opened them.
if you want to try this phone out and dont care about the camera quality go for it...but you have been warned. also, if you are at all curious - DONT buy anything with it. because you won't get your money back
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Eh, the accessories are in demand right now if you can ship quick. Just throw them on eBay and make it clear it ain't shipping from China. Or pm me if you're looking to sell for half off lol.
I know this thread is already a bit older but I did want to share my story. After Oneplus finally confirmed me that there actually is a display issue "with some people", I wanted to return it due to induced dizziness/headaches.
- Support confirmed my used bumper case would be refunded.
- Rma refused to accept bumper case as it's opened
- Oneplus' Paypal dispute team refused also
- Paypal claim decided in my favor and will refund the full amount =)
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warning to all!!!: 1st off the camera on this device is NOT what it was described as. unless the lighting is absolutely perfect, the pictures are FULL of noise and grain. i purchased this device with $40 worth of accessories. it was shipped to me 2 days LATE also. i went to return it and One Plus REFUSED to return/refund my accessories because i opened them.
if you want to try this phone out and dont care about the camera quality go for it...but you have been warned. also, if you are at all curious - DONT buy anything with it. because you won't get your money back
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Should of stuck around for the software updates camera works great now I have no issues with it
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Should of stuck around for the software updates camera works great now I have no issues with it
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i had purchased the 128gb edition - a few things; i first off felt like the device wasnt finished. i want a decent device right out of the box, not 9 updates the first month the thing is out. i have had MANY MANY android phones over the years and while many do go through updates, they have, for the most part, been small, incremental, non-major update issues. this was not what i felt with the 5. From what i have continued to read up to this day, the camera is great! .... as long as you are outdoors and have enough light. the indoor, non-flash, low-light photos continue to be be reported as noisy/grainy and i just can't justify spending that sort of money on a device with a sub-par camera like that.
in addition to that we have the 911 issue fix where the battery now drains fast. my current device, htc 10, calls 911 just fine. there is the jelly-screen effect where the devices were made with the screen inserted backwards, or inverted, or however they screwed it up, i decided i DID actually want some sort of water resistance IP rating on the device. i also wanted a device that will be compatible with band 71 (600mhz) tmobile and even though they used the 835, it was not built-in. there is/was a bug regarding recording stereo sound when the handset is held in landscape mode audio is recorded in stereo, but if you hold it after spinning it counterclockwise from portrait mode then the stereo recording is reversed.
it is a fine phone for many but i just can't spend that much money on that specific device. i will wait for a dual-camera setup with OIS and software that can handle low-light conditions to appear, then get that one
I requested refund around July 2nd, shipped it and op Acer repair center received it on the 14. I received email saying they found it on the 16th and they will examined it and issue refund within 2 days. Untill this day I have received my refund and have called and chatted with OP several time. They keep telling me to wait for Acer to issue refund.
Its so frustrating..
Anyone else had issue with refund?
I see that OP have announced there will be a OP6 coming out around June time. I wonder if there's a furore by those who bought a OP5T :laugh:
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I see that OP have announced there will be a OP6 coming out around June time. I wonder if there's a furore by those who bought a OP5T :laugh:
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furore? you buy op6? will 6t get better? or should we ask the crystal ball when the 7 comes?
I hope a mod will see this and close it ASAP.
This will be my first and last 1+ yes it is cool and had great battery with superb performance.
But a five month period passed and my phone became obsolete, no OIS.
Two things which killed it for me.
Shame.
Anyone who buys a phone that One Plus releases in Spring is an idiot at this point. One Plus will release their inferior phone in Spring and then the version they should have released in the first place in Fall. Why would anyone fall for that again and buy an OP6?
Well, that's your opinion. I don't find OP5 inferior to OP5T. Actually, it's the other way around for me.
Sorry, but no capacitive buttons and finger print sensor on the back it's not an upgrade for me. And the rest, well, they have exactly the same OS, same software and same hardware.
And if you don't buy the 6 because the 6T will be 6 months way... you should probably don't buy the T because the 7 it's 6 months way again.
FWIW, OP6, or any other phone in 2018, will not be a worthy jump in performance compared to OP5. No matter what.
I have no intentions to buy any phone for a couple years, but who knows. I might get the itch and buy a new one anyway.
My phone didn't become less capable because there is a newer phone.
Exactly! But the urge to get the latest model is to much for some people.
And let's face it, phone brand known that all to well.
Yes, marketing works great with phones. My computer is 4yo and has maybe a few years to go with small upgrades, but I change phone every year :silly:
I hope this time I can keep my OnePlus 5 a long time (I'm very careful with it and it is always inside a silicon case).
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Exactly! But the urge to get the latest model is to much for some people.
And let's face it, phone brand known that all to well.
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That's not OnePlus's fault, that's today's consumer society's fault. "I just gotta have the latest thing, that will make me happy, that will make me better than everyone else"
If it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.
Yeh, definitely.
Im guilty of it myself sometimes. But this time around I manage to keep my last phone for 4 years before I moved on. I'm proud of myself. Lol
Let's see what happens this time, when the new phones start popping up in a few months.
I hope 6 will be edge to edge screen. No up & down bands/buttons.
I'm still not convinced about no bezels and weird screen ratio thingy.
Let's see what the future brings.
Lol wait for the T you know all those people that complained about the 5t when it came out.
I've read about SmartSwitch and Kies 3. I currently use Kies 3. I don't care how user-friendly, clever, or fast it is. Anything better than Kies 3 to be able to restore single apps and pull out previous APKs? We learned the hard way that we need to turn off Google automatic updates from the play store. They arbitrarily roll out new policies that cripple businesses and cost them many thousands of dollars.
Thanks!
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79320380&postcount=14
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79320380&postcount=14Do not downgrade if a current bootloader is newer than old one. You can't revert bootloaders but you can up or downgrade if same version or new one that's higher.
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I have never been so frustrated with a phone purchase. I probably have 40 hours in this and it looks like it isn't over yet. First people say once it's upgraded to Pie there is no going back. Next they say it's no problem. Next they say you cannot go back to Oreo and I have a phone on order that is about to get re-listed if I cannot revert it. Now I'm rooting for Hawwaie, a new operating system, and for them to be a US carrier. These guys are criminal.
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I have never been so frustrated with a phone purchase. I probably have 40 hours in this and it looks like it isn't over yet. First people say once it's upgraded to Pie there is no going back. Next they say it's no problem. Next they say you cannot go back to Oreo and I have a phone on order that is about to get re-listed if I cannot revert it. Now I'm rooting for Hawwaie, a new operating system, and for them to be a US carrier. These guys are criminal.
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I feel your frustration. I bought this phone because I wanted a hi end hi performance phone & I thought I'd stay on Oreo until there was a root method for my Snapdragon model only to find out that after hitting no to the update request about 20 times it still forced me to upgrade. Why the heck do they ask if you want to upgrade or not if they're just going to force you to upgrade anyway. As for the bootloader thing if you are on version 1 it doesn't matter what release firmware you put on it just as long as it is bootloader version 1 or higher. Once you go to a firmware that has bootloader version 2 or higher you are unable to go back 2 a firmware that is lower then the one you're currently on. It is stupid but I don't know what to say because I am in your position, stuck with a phone I cannot root and paid big money for. If you have any questions on how to do things just PM me and we can chat I am fairly knowledgeable when it comes to Samsung devices and the note 9 as I've had mine since it was released. Do you have the exynos or snapdragon model? Mine is snapdragon so that is the one I am most familiar with. If I don't know something that you ask me I will not lie and pretend like I do know and feed you information that could lead you down a bad Road. I will give you answers if I do have the correct ones and I am sure of that.
What is it you wish to do or have done with your phone? If it is rooting/jailbreak and you have the exynos model you have an 80% chance that you can succeed in doing so. If you have the Snapdragon model like me we probably will not see a jailbreak or root anytime soon, if at all. There are ways and tricks to get around a lot of problems but they involve work and knowledge and time and usually they are a lengthy process to complete a simple task if it doesn't come out of the box already doing what you wish.
I'd love to trade mine if I could find somebody with a phone that is rootable and it's in the same quality and performs close to the way this one does. I'm going to hold off though because I have downgraded to Oreo and everything I need is functioning at the moment. My only wish 4 root is because I'd like to run Viper4android to be able to get the best sound quality out of the phone possible. For me there is not enough Bass and the volume level is too low, and when you turn the bass or treble up using the EQ provided by Samsung the music goes quieter just so the bass and treble sound louder by comparison. This phone has a very low end audio quality in my opinion. I hate the earbud headphones they come with, AKG I believe. They keep falling out of my oddly shaped ear canal and don't provide me with anything I'd consider special sounding. They rate the headphones as high end $100 value but to me I've bought better for $29.99. Some may disagree but with hiphop/rap I need, well like heavy bass & sharp snappy treble without loss of mid range vocals. I'm getting married in 3/4 of a year, maybe I'll ask for a wedding gift (doing a money tree) and get me some $400 beats over ear headphones by Dr Dre. This phone without viper4android may not push them tho so I'll get a Bluetooth model which provides its own amp power supply.
Like I said if you have questions I'll tell you what I know, what I've actually done myself, and what I'm unsure of. I feel for you so least I can do is offer. Don't give up just yet. Day 2 on Oreo 8.1.0 and still nothing about updates has come up. It's two simple adb commands that stops the forced updates and it affects nothing on the phone. No prompts or error messages & EVERYTHING else works fine. It's easy to undo also and does not void warranty.
Cheers mate, take a deep breath & we can look at each issue 1 by 1. Hopefully their easy to correct.
I'm Ryan by the way. Ttyl ?.
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I'd love to trade mine if I could find somebody with a phone that is rootable and it's in the same quality and performs close to the way this one does.
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There is, the Pixel 2XL. The Pixel 3XL came with Pie. There isn't much difference between the two. The reason I didn't is I will be living in a South America most of the time and I want Samsung Pay otherwise the Pixel 2XL almost had
me giving up the stylus.
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Like I said if you have questions I'll tell you what I know, what I've actually done myself, and what I'm unsure of. I feel for you so least I can do is offer. Don't give up just yet.
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If it doesn't come with the right boot loader I'll list it back on eBay and get one that does.
I don't buy phones often because it takes me 80 hours to get one the way I need it. Once I was able to get a phone with a stylus, and I could run line-of-business software, the Touch Pro2, it would be hard for me to give up the stylus. The Touch Pro2 was simply a Pocket PC and you could wipe it and install any operating that had drivers on it, including Android. It could emulate anything, including an iPhone. I'd still have a Windows phone if they made one but Balmer trashed it and started putting Zune on phones with Windows Phone and then it lost it's entire software base, including the Word, Excel, and Outlook that was baked in, and took Nokia down with it. That is what brought Android out of obscurity. I didn't move to Android until the Note 3 because it was the first point in time that Android had enough competent software for line-of-business apps, and the reason I didn't go IOS is because the same apps in the iPhone didn't work right, and I couldn't get where I needed to go, with call recording being one. It was also the latest I could get root. With root we can do site surveys, see what the bands are in a certain area, troubleshoot networks, etc., so we will keep the Verizon Note 3s for that purpose as they have no resale since they cannot be added to the Verizon network after the first of the year because they don't have LTE-A like the Note 4. The Note 8 and the Note 9 are the only ones with the bands needed to be able to work on a variety of networks around the world, that has a stylus, can still record calls if running Oreo, and has Samsung Pay. There is no advantage for me to buy a Samsung without a stylus. The problem with the Note 8 is battery life and it would probably come with an older battery. For those reasons the Note 9 is the only duck in my pond. I couldn't use a Note 10 if someone gave it to me.
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Day 2 on Oreo 8.1.0 and still nothing about updates has come up. It's two simple adb commands that stops the forced updates and it affects nothing on the phone. No prompts or error messages & EVERYTHING else works fine. It's easy to undo also and does not void warranty.
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ADB access for most is about over, and Verizon is the name of a new virus that works around your OTA protections. I'm going to go with what Jammol stated on this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus this video for phone settings: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus install Package Disabler Pro+.
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Cheers mate, take a deep breath & we can look at each issue 1 by 1. Hopefully their easy to correct. I'm Ryan by the way. Ttyl .
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I have a Note 9 on the way, setting up my plan, and ordering and downloading. The phone is my mini business laptop. It has my mail, schedule, software to support people remotely, tracks my time, takes notes for my calls, etc. I don't use it for movies, games, or music. What turns my ears red is when they make changes that cost me thousands of dollars in lost history and change things to where I lose business functionality. If I find the guy who did Pie and took away my call recording, I'm going to revoke his social media accounts, take the transmission out of his car to keep him safe and from breaking the law with any inadvertent traffic violations, and board up all of the windows on his house to protect his privacy. I know what's best for his life. BTW, I'm Jack
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:laugh:There is, the Pixel 2XL. The Pixel 3XL came with Pie. There isn't much difference between the two. The reason I didn't is I will be living in a South America most of the time and I want Samsung Pay otherwise the Pixel 2XL almost had
me giving up the stylus.
If it doesn't come with the right boot loader I'll list it back on eBay and get one that does.
I don't buy phones often because it takes me 80 hours to get one the way I need it. Once I was able to get a phone with a stylus, and I could run line-of-business software, the Touch Pro2, it would be hard for me to give up the stylus. The Touch Pro2 was simply a Pocket PC and you could wipe it and install any operating that had drivers on it, including Android. It could emulate anything, including an iPhone. I'd still have a Windows phone if they made one but Balmer trashed it and started putting Zune on phones with Windows Phone and then it lost it's entire software base, including the Word, Excel, and Outlook that was baked in, and took Nokia down with it. That is what brought Android out of obscurity. I didn't move to Android until the Note 3 because it was the first point in time that Android had enough competent software for line-of-business apps, and the reason I didn't go IOS is because the same apps in the iPhone didn't work right, and I couldn't get where I needed to go, with call recording being one. It was also the latest I could get root. With root we can do site surveys, see what the bands are in a certain area, troubleshoot networks, etc., so we will keep the Verizon Note 3s for that purpose as they have no resale since they cannot be added to the Verizon network after the first of the year because they don't have LTE-A like the Note 4. The Note 8 and the Note 9 are the only ones with the bands needed to be able to work on a variety of networks around the world, that has a stylus, can still record calls if running Oreo, and has Samsung Pay. There is no advantage for me to buy a Samsung without a stylus. The problem with the Note 8 is battery life and it would probably come with an older battery. For those reasons the Note 9 is the only duck in my pond. I couldn't use a Note 10 if someone gave it to me.
ADB access for most is about over, and Verizon is the name of a new virus that works around your OTA protections. I'm going to go with what Jammol stated on this thread: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus this video for phone settings: https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...9-snapdragon-oreo-verizon-wont-t3939073/page2 plus install Package Disabler Pro+.
I have a Note 9 on the way, setting up my plan, and ordering and downloading. The phone is my mini business laptop. It has my mail, schedule, software to support people remotely, tracks my time, takes notes for my calls, etc. I don't use it for movies, games, or music. What turns my ears red is when they make changes that cost me thousands of dollars in lost history and change things to where I lose business functionality. If I find the guy who did Pie and took away my call recording, I'm going to revoke his social media accounts, take the transmission out of his car to keep him safe and from breaking the law with any inadvertent traffic violations, and board up all of the windows on his house to protect his privacy. I know what's best for his life. BTW, I'm Jack
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I looked around and even found a great condition pixel 2 XL that somebody was willing to trade for my Samsung Galaxy S8 but I was nervous about a used phone, and luckily once I called my carrier to check if the pixel would run on their Network they told me it didn't. I am with Eastlink Mobility in Eastern Canada and their firmware customer code or abbreviation is esk. They stated that they sell only the phones that work on their Networks (many) and phones purchased elsewhere would not work on there modem bands and would only be able to purchase second hand phone that they carry in store so that I would be okay and I would be able to connect to their towers. To me this sounds like a bunch of bul****, there are many many bands and Eastlink Mobility doesn't even own any Towers. The service they provide is through rented Towers from Bell Canada and Telus Canada and Rogers Canada. This being the case I would assume any phone that runs on any of these Networks should be able to be hooked up and used with my current provider without me having to purchase a brand new phone. I think it is a money grab and also all the phones that they do sell currently are not able to be rooted. Very small selection. Only newest Note 9+ Galaxy S10, iPhone X, and some cheapos that liik ancient.
FOR $150 a month I get...
Unlimited nationwide long distance calling. Unlimited local calling 24/7. I have insurance that covers everything even if I dropped it on concrete face down and stepped on it getting out of the car to pick it up and shattered the screen rendering the phone useless (whick I did a week after buying the note 9) God that sucked/was dumb. This insurance does not expire ever as long as I keep it on my plan. It doesn't matter the reason the phone is damaged so it's a pretty good insurance plan. I also get 7gb of mobile data each month and unlimited sms/mms but I'm still wondering if WiFi calling will be activated. I see through package Disabler there is a WiFi calling apk. why it'd be there if there was no intention on using it 1 day, but I'm sure Eastlink will be last to get it available. Google pay & Samsung pay are not compatible with my bank/country/provider so their just wasting space. I have bixby turned off atm. Single press - settings, double press - game launcher, & long hold press is screenshot. Quite handy, I used button remapper & setup on pc was a breeze. Wish me luck finding a "looked after" (female owner sosted prob never rooted) pixl 2.
I'm thinking I'll keep this note & use very lightly with my screen cover & Otterbox & sell before I'll lose out on resale when it becomes too low, meaning I'll sell if a good option appears & I can profit off mine still due to keeping EVERYTHING it came with. & in mint shape. Carrier unlocked but I think they have to unlock if requested now due to a law passe. The must provide you with free code. I have my Box, manual/warrenty, no scratches, all oem parts which most are still unopened or have never been used even, and in mint condition. Never been messed with or buggy issues. I'll keep my eyes open for pixel 2 but I'm pretty sure I'll run into the previous issue I mentioned. Denial by carrier.
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If you have any questions on how to do things just PM me and we can chat.
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I took you up on that because I didn't want to reduce the usefulness of this thread to others by thread drift into chat over other topics and strategies, which I started doing already.
Hi all,
Are there any benefits to getting factory unlocked oneplus 10 pro -- NE2215? Reason being is that I'm used to seeing the UC (ultra capacity) on the tmobile version (I saw the UC icon in the store while playing with the store demo).
Any feedback and/or advice will be taken and appreciated. Keep it clean folks. =)
Update:. Due to the lack of a MSM/unbrick tool and OnePlus not releasing any kernels, I have since returned my now-former OnePlus 10 pro to best buy.
Thanks to those devs and end users for reaching out and proving that I'm not alone.
I bought one also, from OnePlus Store. The last time I bought a phone from T-Mobile they added a big monthly equipment surcharge to my bill for 24 months even though I fully own my own equipment, and increased my base subscription rate for no evident reason. I noticed after a month. It took many hours to remove the charges and also to return my monthly charges to what they were. Scammy. So not buying from them was a benefit, this time.
They gave me significant trouble getting it activated, ostensibly because my billing is still handled by Sprint. So ease of activation would be the only upside I see to buying at a T-Mobile store.
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I bought one also, from OnePlus Store. The last time I bought a phone from T-Mobile they added a big monthly equipment surcharge to my bill for 24 months even though I fully own my own equipment, and increased my base subscription rate for no evident reason. I noticed after a month. It took many hours to remove the charges and also to return my monthly charges to what they were. Scammy. So not buying from them was a benefit, this time.
They gave me significant trouble getting it activated, ostensibly because my billing is still handled by Sprint. So ease of activation would be the only upside I see to buying at a T-Mobile store.
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Disastron said:
I bought one also, from OnePlus Store. The last time I bought a phone from T-Mobile they added a big monthly equipment surcharge to my bill for 24 months even though I fully own my own equipment, and increased my base subscription rate for no evident reason. I noticed after a month. It took many hours to remove the charges and also to return my monthly charges to what they were. Scammy. So not buying from them was a benefit, this time.
They gave me significant trouble getting it activated, ostensibly because my billing is still handled by Sprint. So ease of activation would be the only upside I see to buying at a T-Mobile store.
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After reading this, yes, I echo your sentiment and frustration. I *had* an s22 (base model) and it had horrible battery life. Hell, I disabled most of the bloatware and still the battery was a fast drain. It took t-mobile almost 1 month to completely clear off the s22 after repeated phone calls. I would rather go to best buy and buy their phones, knowing that they're factory unlocked (I believe they are).
My advice if you're still in your cooling off period is to send it back and get a pixel 7..
Being factory unlocked I'd have thought would mean you can use any SIM.
Not a bad version of this phone, it's just a shame the phone (modding wise) is so lacking, plus it has quite a few issues, I wish I was wrong but I'm afraid I'm not...
OnePlus is certainly on its way out.
2215 and 2217 have different bands so uc won't work on 2215. vowifi doesn't even work. i know cause i couldn't get the free gogo internet on my united flight yesterday.
dladz said:
My advice if you're still in your cooling off period is to send it back and get a pixel 7..
Being factory unlocked I'd have thought would mean you can use any SIM.
Not a bad version of this phone, it's just a shame the phone (modding wise) is so lacking, plus it has quite a few issues, I wish I was wrong but I'm afraid I'm not...
OnePlus is certainly on its way out.
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Is the Pixel 7 any good? I heard it has/has signal issues. Please elaborate.
I picked up my oneplus 10 pro this past weekend. Return deadline is December 3rd.
Thanks for the heads up! =)
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2215 and 2217 have different bands so uc won't work on 2215. vowifi doesn't even work. i know cause i couldn't get the free gogo internet on my united flight yesterday.
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Ah man! no UC or even vowifi?! God.......what a missed opportunity by oneplus. Thanks for this. =)
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Is the Pixel 7 any good? I heard it has/has signal issues. Please elaborate.
I picked up my oneplus 10 pro this past weekend. Return deadline is December 3rd.
Thanks for the heads up! =)
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Pixel 7 has some ROMs, an active development community, it's not a perfect phone but it ticks the right boxes for me and it'll have great development for years to come..
The 10 pro as much as I like the hardware has some software issues that are awful, plus there's no ROMs, no MSM tool, no custom recovery, not even a custom kernel as OnePlus / oppo are not releasing the full kernel source code.
Pretty appalling.
Plus they charge 3rd party service centres to use their MSM tool, something that costs nothing to use and has been free for years..
Read some of the other threads, I'm not alone in thinking this way... It's a shame but unfortunately it's our reality
dladz said:
Pixel 7 has some ROMs, an active development community, it's not a perfect phone but it ticks the right boxes for me and it'll have great development for years to come..
The 10 pro as much as I like the hardware has some software issues that are awful, plus there's no ROMs, no MSM tool, no custom recovery, not even a custom kernel as OnePlus / oppo are not releasing the full kernel source code.
Pretty appalling.
Plus they charge 3rd party service centres to use their MSM tool, something that costs nothing to use and has been free for years..
Read some of the other threads, I'm not alone in thinking this way... It's a shame but unfortunately it's our reality
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Yes, OnePlus 10 Pro has good hardware and loved the specs but damn.........
Each individual is entitled to his/her their own opinion. I absolutely have no issues with my oneplus 10 pro, bought directly from OnePlus site in USA. Wi-Fi calling, t-mobile signal, 5G etc, all work flawless in the DC area. I used to root and mod my phones but have absolutely no need for the same. Is this the best available phone? Absolutely not. Pixel 7 is great looking phone that I got for my son but damn thing can't get signal in most of the metro underground stations but my son still love it. Each individual has different needs and expectations from their devices. If you are into custom rom, this is not a phone for you. Quite honestly, custom ROM community is diminishing each year for reasons which are beyond the scope of this particular question. Good luck with your decision. Either way, you cant go wrong