I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
ice5192 said:
I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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No.
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ice5192 said:
I am wondering if we have root or unlocked bootloaders fornthe note 9 on Verizon I just switched carriers from tmobile.
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They're all the same exact device.
Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
ice5192 said:
Does this mean we have root? That doesnt answer the question also the no is a useless response. I'm a very old member here.
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Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
replica9000 said:
I've been considering a Note 9 to replace my recently dead Pixel XL. I bought my PXL unlocked straight from Google. I was able to unlock the bootloader from the settings, load TWRP, then flash SU.
Samsung doesn't offer the option to unlock the bootloader if you buy the phone (US version) straight from them?
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Nope.
Lol. How is "no" a useless answer to a yes or no question? That fully answered the question asked ?
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Just not one who knows how to search for answers, LOL.
OK, you asked a yes or no question: Do we have root or unlocked bootloaders on the Verizon version of the Note 9?
The answer is no.
You mentioned you wanted to know because you were coming from T-Mobile, and you wanted to know about the Verizon version. I was explaining they are the same exact device.
I'm sorry, I didn't realize you didn't understand your yes or no question had already been answered with "no," so rather than again say "no," I was trying to be helpful in explaining they're the same device, no matter what carrier you're on, so none of them have root.
This question has been answered several times already in this forum. There is a 99.99% chance we will never see an unlocked bootloader on the Snapdragon version of the Note 9, or the Note 8, or the S9/+, or the S8/+, or basically ANY Samsung Snapdragon device. There's also a very, VERY high chance you'll never see root. The last person who rooted a Snapdragon device (the Note 8) stated they closed up his hole for root, and he was basically done working on it.
If you want unlocked bootloaders and root, go with the Exynos version from over seas. Just say goodbye to carrier aggregation. And once you unlock that bootloader, say goodbye to Samsung Pay, Samsung Pass, Secure Folder, etc...
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So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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correct
Henhen59 said:
So if I get an Exynos note 9 and root it then I lose secure folder? No way to keep it?
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Not only is there no way to KEEP it. There's no way to get it back. When you unlock the bootloader, you break Knox. That is a PERMANENT thing. It blows an E-Fuse, so you cannot reverse no matter what you try. And without Knox, you don't have Secure Folder.
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Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?
>Lol im still trying to figure out how it is people dont know all this stuff already, its been like this for how many years?<
I haven't upgraded since the Note 3 where I can get root without tripping Knox, block OS updates, and get root back any tine I want to. That it why I killed the Note 3's ability to update the OS, and why I didn't get the Note 4, 5, 6, and now am checking in on 8 and 9 to see where things are today. Now they are taking away the ability to record our own phone calls with "P", so I'm checking out where root is today before I upgrade. These capabilities we use for invoicing our time and business automation is a major reason for choosing Android. If Android is attempting to be like the iPhone, then we might as well buy iPhones. I'm not interested in only Google and the NSA having access to my conversations. I know some Android vendors are going around Google/Android and building it into the hardware, but that limits me to their phones.
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will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
rtubbs85 said:
will there be root for this phone on att or will it have the same issues as the note 4?
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same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
danon.brown said:
same issues. They said they will not support unlocked bootloaders..
http://androidandme.com/2013/08/car...upport-unlocked-bootloaders-once-and-for-all/
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...tloaders-so-stop-asking-us-about-every-phone/
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Those are from 2 years ago IVe had rooted phones since then.
What I'm saying is if they said that back then why was I able to get root on other phones?
Root <> unlocked bootloader....
That being said, no one knows if it will get root or not. It depends if a suitable exploit is discovered to do it. 5.1.1 plugs a few of the known exploits, so it won't happen the exact same way it did in the S6.
Only time will tell.
Also keep in mind that root can mean different things too... Permanent, temporary, root but with no system modification, etc... No one knows which we will get, if any.
keep in mind that most of the talented Devs have abandoned Samsung, so that might make it even worse
Doesn't the Note 5 have the same hardware as the S6/S6E? Seems like it should be able to be done like those phones but I don't know if that's true or not.
I'm thinking about getting this phone, but will hold off until proven root on AT&T.
I just saw this article, so maybe I'll stay with my HTC:
http://www.idigitaltimes.com/samsun...d-features-att-and-verizon-models-wont-468357
The Verizon and AT&T models have a carrier specific mechanism, which is apart of the Samsung Knox Security Suite, Samsung Knox director of business development Ram Motipally detailed to iDigitalTimes at a recent briefing in New York prior to the Galaxy Note 5 and S6 Edge+ launch. “In most of the U.S. devices, if you root the device the device won’t even boot up; if it’s AT&T or Verizon,” he said.
Wanting to get the phone and see how the US versions(snapdragon)of the S8+ are starting to get root. Wondering if many of you think this trend will follow with the Note 8 Snapdragon versions?
I say just sit back and wait.
Yes, it has been said the snapdragon will get root with a possible of 80% limit on the battery just like the s8.
All we can do is wait and see
the Snapdragon models will probably get root sooner or later, but the Exynos ones seem to already have a method. I'm about to take the plunge on it myself.
The Note 8 US models will get root. Just be patient the phone just came out on the 15th. I have had multiple phones with locked bootloaders and every time some hard working people find a way to root them. This phone will have root soon.
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the Snapdragon models will probably get root sooner or later, but the Exynos ones seem to already have a method. I'm about to take the plunge on it myself.
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Yes twrp and root already available for exynos versions...always within the first week of launch it seems.
Snapdragons....who knows lol. Will likely get some form of root with certain issues as usual. Will never get twrp.
Dont waste your money on snapdragon if development matters to you.
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Exynos and it already has root and twrp
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Rooting a locked bootloader phone is much like running homebrew or a flat-out custom firmware on a game console.
Determined individuals will find a way, but it'll take quite some time and rely on security exploits that could just as easily be used for nefarious purposes, so don't be surprised if they get patched out in future updates.
Meanwhile, you could just get a device with an unlocked bootloader and be on your merry way, but that only applies to Exynos variants and maybe the Snapdragon variant sold in Hong Kong. Needless to say, that makes things a pain for North American buyers for a litany of reasons - doubly so if you're on Sprint or Verizon due to lack of CDMA support on Exynos.
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Rooting a locked bootloader phone is much like running homebrew or a flat-out custom firmware on a game console.
Determined individuals will find a way, but it'll take quite some time and rely on security exploits that could just as easily be used for nefarious purposes, so don't be surprised if they get patched out in future updates.
Meanwhile, you could just get a device with an unlocked bootloader and be on your merry way, but that only applies to Exynos variants and maybe the Snapdragon variant sold in Hong Kong. Needless to say, that makes things a pain for North American buyers for a litany of reasons - doubly so if you're on Sprint or Verizon due to lack of CDMA support on Exynos.
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This is all true. There really isn't a reason to root the Snapdragon variant unless you absolutely need it for an app that requires root. You can't run any custom ROMs on a phone with a locked bootloader, even if it is rooted.
Just like with the S7/Edge Snapdragons, they had root but it was so unreliable I could never really keep my phone rooted. There were severe battery drain issues, lag and more and these issues remain today for people still trying to root that phone.
I still have my old reliable Note 5 rooted and I still it today even though I have a Note 8 now.
Does anyone know if rooting the note8 will trigger Knox?
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Does anyone know if rooting the note8 will trigger Knox?
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Yes it does.
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This is all true. There really isn't a reason to root the Snapdragon variant unless you absolutely need it for an app that requires root. You can't run any custom ROMs on a phone with a locked bootloader, even if it is rooted.
Just like with the S7/Edge Snapdragons, they had root but it was so unreliable I could never really keep my phone rooted. There were severe battery drain issues, lag and more and these issues remain today for people still trying to root that phone.
I still have my old reliable Note 5 rooted and I still it today even though I have a Note 8 now.
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This. Sure snapdragons will get root but it won't be for months and it will limit battery to 80%. Plus no twrp or custom roms. Not worth it imho. That's why if root and roms are important to you, Exynos is your only real option.
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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Return it, and buy an unlockable device.
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
j101399j said:
If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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I got it from T-Mobile
quantum88 said:
I've had it 10 days (assuming relevant), and after entering the developer options, I am not able to find the OEM unlock options.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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If it's like the AT&T version, you need the unlock code from T-Mobile. The option to disable a carrier lock is not in developer mode.
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He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
TechOut said:
He's talking about OEM unlock for the bootloader not carrier lock
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My mistake, thank you for clarifying.
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You can't OEM unlock a snapdragon model
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Is that just for now or a certainty?
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Is that just for now or a certainty.
Well it didnt happen on the s9 that i know of so.....
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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quantum88 said:
And even if you could whats the point? its not like you can flash twrp or anything else lol.
sent from my S9 Plus (Exynos) Pixel 2XL or Note FE
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What do you mean?
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What do you mean?
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Your BL is locked, there is nothing for you to gain be enabling OEM unlock. The people with unlockable devices have to enable OEM to flash twrp...you cannot therefore it is pointless.
Well at least in my point of view, why do you want to enable it?
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t mobile sm-n960u unlock ???
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
The simple answer is that you can't unlock the bootloader on the US market phone. You haven't been able to do so since the Galaxy S7. I think it likely has a lot to do with KNOX integration for security reasons. The complicated answer is that there were ways to root the S7 by flashing a developer bootloader (engboot or something like that). The catch is that while you could root it, the phone would run like crap, overheat, bad battery life, etc. Some claimed to have decent success with it though. Likely something similar will happen with the Note 9 as well as. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked, meaning you can activate it on any supported carrier. It has nothing to do with the bootloader.
Long story short, no, you can't unlock the bootloader, no, you can't flash twrp, and you'll find actual development for the US market phone to be essentially non-existent. If that is important to you, return this phone. Coming from rooting and flashing all of my phones prior to the S7, I honestly don't miss it. IMO, there's nothing to be gained, and it's a huge time suck. Life is too short and I'm too busy to spend an evening setting things up for the 5th time, troubleshooting battery life issues, etc. Not to mention that my job related security apps aren't going to work on a rooted phone.
Now, as far as "junk apps" not sure what you mean. These phones are now pretty clean actually, and most things can be uninstalled or disabled from within stock android. And as I found out many times in the past, if something is unable to be disabled, it's probably for good reason.
As far as ads, also not sure what you mean. Web browser ads can be blocked through extensions that Samsung browser supports. In app ads can be eliminated by paying for the app. Really, if you can't afford $3 for an app that you frequently use, I'd question how you can afford a $1000 phone.
MerlinTT said:
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
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That's incorrect. The unlocked version is fully compatible with T-Mobile.
MerlinTT said:
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
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Samsung has been locking bootloaders since the S7? It's been a few years. Even when someone found a way to beat it, it was severely limiting to your device. You said you're not new here. This is pretty common knowledge with Samsung devices.
MerlinTT said:
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
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Uh, what ads? That's not a samsung thing, I think you just installed some ****ty apps.
MerlinTT said:
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
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Hoooo boy. You might want to look into HTC phones before you buy one.
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Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
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Yes. And they've been working on the S9 too, which still can't be beaten. And a proper way to unlock the S8, without limiting your battery to 80%.
And why exactly is T-Mobile "junk"? Maybe you need a different carrier.
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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If a color is challenging your sexuality, you have deeper problems than an unrootable phone.
MerlinTT said:
I hate pink and that dam t mobile jingle i got rid of the jingle with an app silent boot but sorry that pink ***** boot screen????they added
that has to go
Grumpy
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I think your problems go well beyond the color of your boot screen. Seek help. The kind of help you need we're not qualified to provide here. How often do you see the boot logo screen anyway?
MerlinTT said:
Ok I have been on this site for a long time.
Sorry I am not or I do not have to brain power most of you have here on this site doing what you do best
making are phones better a lot of you have the nack for this stuff
at&t note 2 rooted with the help and info from this site htc m7 rooted here t mobile note 4 and note 5
now I jumped and for the fist time I got a current model phone a t junk mobile note 9
I was going to buy an unlocked note 9 from best buy but they said they did not think there phone had the 600mhz B71 band that t junk mobile is suppose
to come out with
but I am thinking about returning this phone to t junk mobile I just get the unlocked one from best buy
this phone would not be that bad if I can get rid of t junk mobile ad on boot up logo and jingle sound but I found an app silent boot to fix that but
that is adding anther app on my phone that I really do not want
So Question? did Samsung finally beat this forum In lets say hacking there phone's???
if so and you can not root a phone you just paid $1000. for would it not be best just to get a phone that can be rooted to get rid of all the dam junk apps
and all of the dam AD'S that you get these days on the phones!! there I said it I do not like crap ass adsssssss that keep popping up!
SAMSUNG you spend $1000 to have to keep seeing ad's you did not ask to see
I am kind of thinking of returning this phone to t junk mobile and looking into a HTC phone
Question 2
is anyone working on rooting this sm-n960u phone and twrp??
I see venom has a rom that suppose to work on a ms-n960u so what do you need to do to install that if no root is available
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There are two types of "unlocked": carrier and bootloader. BestBuy meant carrier unlocked, or the N960U1. The hardware is equivalent to the carrier version (N960U; there's only one model now for all the carriers), and the only software difference is that it doesn't come with the carrier bloat. Same hardware and firmware means it supports B71. However, it cannot be bootloader unlocked.
You have two options if you want a bootloader unlock: the N9600 or the N960F. Neither supports B71, but both do support B66. Remember, B71 isn't all that important yet. It's only been rolled out in a few places and TMO is concentrating more on 5G right now.
The N960F has a mod you can flash to enable TMO WiFi Calling and VoLTE and the other carrier features. I'm running it now and it works fine. It did sort of convert my phone to a Chinese variant, which meant I was stuck with the super aggressive Smart Manager instead of Device Manager, but I modified it to let me use Device Manager again. I might be posting the modified version if I can get permission.
The fact is that, yes, Samsung kind of beat the rooters. However, anyone who really wants to root usually just gets the F or 0 variant, and those who can live without make do with the plethora of non-root tweaks. There are actually quite a few adblockers and package disablers designed for TouchWiz that work without root, such as DNS66 or notSABS.
I don't know anything about flashing modified TouchWiz ROMs on the U variant, but it might be possible. It won't have root though.
Really, if you want a rootable Samsung, go with the N960F. You can get it on Amazon new with Prime for under $900 (without Prime it's $800). It has TWRP and Magisk works fine. If you want WFC PM me so I can share my modified mod (heh). I'll also be working on a set of other miscellaneous modifications to TouchWiz.
SM-N960U
So in old slow world of us phone dummies that try to keep up with all the brain power that this site has been good for in unlocking phones over the years, oh ya and when you all talk that doctors language and write it
to where us dummies have to read and reread over and over again and again to unlock are phones after you all figured it out!!
So what you are saying in the current Samsung world rooting is a thing of the past! Samsung won the hacking war!!! and us pe-ons are mostly stuck with carrier banded phones or unlocked that loses carrier bands and options!
Unless we pay some merc to kidnap you and have some doctor transfer your brain power into are brains so we have the brain power to hack and mod are locked phones then if we are kind have that brain power transferred back to your brains!!!!
I should have stayed with my note 4
oh ya my man hood is just fine they hang lower then yours but that happens with old age how low??
it is great with the younger ladies big is a big deal today
like older ladies with big you know what age affects them to and the younger guys can not stop looking
just do not like pink
Grumpy
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
You answered you own question. If they are "working on it" then it means it's not possible, no?
AssyrianHero said:
Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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I'm sure someone somewhere is working on it, but don't count on it ever happening. Oreo pretty much sealed up all the loopholes used for root.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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Not possible, and not likely to change.
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
Phazonclash said:
Even if it was, it would trigger the Knox efuse and break many features. Rooting a Samsung device sucks these days
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there are ways of getting around these broken features
bober10113 said:
only for people jn the us and canada. the rest of the world has no issues. so id only agree that buying the wrong phone does suck.
but what dosent suck is making the right choice.
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Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
bober10113 said:
there are ways of getting around these broken features
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
Phazonclash said:
Rooting an Exynos device still triggers the efuse so yeah it sucks
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Not Samsung Pay or Secure Folder.
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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i guess if something as trivial as spay and secure folder not working is enough to stop you from rooting then yeah life must suck in that sense.
appart from secure folder, spay has a viable solution on rooted phones with magisk with android pay.
but then again if your phone can't be rooted then why even bother debating why not to root or what are the down sides of rooting?
unless its for validation purposes of being stuck with not having such a choice( being able to root).
anyways what's done is done. no sense in debating pipe dreams
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When you use Samsung Pay everyday, it's not trivial. And Android Pay is not equal to Samsung Pay. If it were, then I would just get a Pixel.
I'm not trying to validate anything. You stated there were ways around three tripped Knox, and there's not. Not for Samsung Pay and Secure Folder. And I'm not arguing saying people shouldn't root. It's your phone, do what you want with it. I just don't want people getting the impression they can trip Knox, then work around it. That's not true.
And as far as why argue when my phone can't be rooted anyway? Well, why did you come here debating in a thread about a phone that can't be rooted. I wasn't even debating the merits of rooting with you, I was just stating a fact. Troll somewhere else, Troll.
Hey
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Is it possible to root Note 9 sm-n960w?? A lot of people are saying some developers are working on it? Is that true..
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alanifotis said:
You device has an unlocked bootloader. So you can root it and flash anything on it the problem is that you have less options because no one is working on stuff for snapdragon models assuming that everyone use an usa version of it.
I will attach a picture of the chat i had with an representative of Samsung Canada.
I hope that developers here take the effort to create some stuff for the Canadian version.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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Really? OMG i was going to order one. How is possible that they can't even know that? Those bastards ????
Mr. Orange 645 said:
Samsung Reps are notoriously wrong. The N960W is the same exact device as the N960U and does NOT have an unlockable bootloader. Believe me, if it were possible to unlock the bootloader and root the N960W, it would be all over the forums and everyone in the US would be selling their N960U to buy one.
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if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
elliwigy said:
if it was true usa owners would just flash the W firmware and unlock lol no need to sell anything.. too bad its not true though
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Also true, LOL
Why can't the snap dragon variant be rooted?
I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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Sometimes I wish XDA has a FQA thread for every device, so we don't get at least one thread of every page that has people asking how/when/why questions regarding SD variants getting root. I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously. The question is valid, and the answer is not intuitive to newcomers, yet somehow the knowing the answer seem to be some kind of unspoken prerequisite, which is strange.
Also, never trust customer service representatives knowing correct answers regarding root/bootloader, be it Best Buy, your carrier, or even Samsung. You are very likely to get a more accurate answer here on this forum, from people who actually own the device model.
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I've seen various posts claim the snap dragon variant of the note 9 will NEVER be rooted ( or little to no chance of being rooted) , but the exynos version can. What I don't see, is why? What makes this version so impossible to crack vs exynos and why are people so sure that will remain the case? Not arguing whatsoever, just want to know. Is it all down to bootloader locking? I have the Sm-n960W variant, while most of the threads here refer to other variations. I was also told by best buy that this was unlocked, and I confirmed if they meant rootable not just carrier unlocked
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
Don't ask why, because I don't know, but that's the difference. And since the S7/Edge, the US bootloader has NOT been unlockable, despite the best efforts of developers. It's just simply impossible.
And despite what the people at Best Buy say, the N960W is not rootable or bootloader unlockable. I doubt they even know what it means. As was stated, if it were possible, people here in the US would be buying N960Ws or flashing the N960W firmware to unlock the Bootloader.
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kgptzac said:
I think probably the mod team here at XDA takes the stance that "everyone must search before asking" too seriously.
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LOL. I don't think they take it seriously enough. That is why it's asked over and over and over again.
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The answer is simple. Because Samsung ALLOWS that bootloader on the N960F and the N9600 to be unlocked. The N9600 has the same Snapdragon processor as the N960U and the N960W, yet it's bootloader can be unlocked. So it's not the processor, it's the software.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Got a link to an official statement from Samsung?
I'm running n960w with the ui f/w from the beta does that make my phone unlockable ? Because That doesn't make any sense to me.
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No. It's been said over and over in this thread the N960W is NOT bootloader unlockable. It doesn't matter what firmware you put on it. It can NOT be bootloader unlocked. I don't need an official statement from Samsung to tell me it can't be unlocked.
The 9600 is the only SnapDragon device that can be bootloader unlocked.
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
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It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
I can't find anywhere with instructions to specifically root a Verizon OEM Locked pixel 5, maybe I overlooked. If I did can someone post a link please?
If not, then does anyone know if this would work?
Rooting your Bootlocked Pixel Phone (Verizon Edition)
I bought a new Pixel phone on Ebay a couple months ago for testing an Android app i’m developing. To my surprise,the phone I received in the mail was not the...
joshspicer.com
It was posted back in 2018 for a different Verizon based Pixel 1, just curious to know.
I need root so I can block certain bands from my phone. I have multiple bands in my area some are super slow and some are faster than broadband, for some reason my phone likes to auto connect to the slow bands and I can't block them without root, well at least not that I know of.
Thanks in advance for any answers, I really appreciate it.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
you need to unlock the bootloader to use magisk v22+
Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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Unfortunately for rooting and unlocking bootloader, you can't do that with phones purchased through Verizon. You need to find an unlocked phone to do so. Swappa is a decent place to get one nowadays, but you have to pay in total, no payments can be made.
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That could be slightly deceiving. An unlocked phone is carrier unlocked that's it. It does not mean you can unlock the bootloader. So technically you would need an unlockable bootloader device not merely an unlocked phone. You can buy an unlocked Verizon phone with no way of unlocking the bl as witnessed by the OP.
True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
i4m5up3rm4n said:
Okay, what about rooting? Is that still possible.
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no
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True, I should have worded that better!
If you know what you're looking for though, an unlocked device is still the best route, at least for Pixels. Most of the time if it's not locked to a carrier it can be rooted and unlocked. At least in my experience it's been this way. But I also ask questions and make sure I know what is being purchased before following through.
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It wasn't really meant to be critical of you, I'm sure you know all that. I've just seen too many horror stories of buying an unlocked device and not being able to bl unlock due to restrictions the carriers put on. Some have been lucky and paid off the device, begged tech support to allow bl unlock and succeeded in that request. And then there are those devices that are carrier unlocked and will never be bl unlocked like the Verizon models. So as you say, ask questions and make sure you know exactly what you are buying.
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You can't find instructions for it because you can't unlock the bootloader on the Verizon branded Pixel 5. Sorry
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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You can't just say that with no proof and think anyone will take it seriously. So prove it, we're all ears.
Hell, if that were true, I would ONLY buy Verizon phones
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Provide instructions then. You just saying it can be done without providing them is a moot comment.
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Interesting. I have, it's not difficult. They just don't post it in the forums.
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Yes, it is. Stop acting like anything is impossible. You can switch this feature on, and off. Easily.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Time to put up or... well you know. Posts like these will send new users on a wild goose chase attempting to gain root/bootloader unlock on their devices purchased from Verzion and end with them being unhappy that they can't.
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update. You can think this and that is impossible, but you are sadly wrong. You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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Not if you truly know what you're doing. A few years ago people stopped posting about hacks and just share with a few friends. That way, they can't fix those problems. It was figured out back on the Pixel 2 they search these forums, we'd do hacks then be fixed in the very next update.
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
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You can enable the OEM unlock on Verizon models, yes you can!
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So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
It's sad how things like this can become so twisted and turned and convoluted. It doesn't do any good does it? None that I can see.
I'm guessing, but anyone talking about a vzw being unlockable is probably referring to someone who got a vzw 'in the box', unopened and never activated.
I just got a pix3 in that condition, and yes, remove vzw sim, boot up minimal except connect wifi, enable dev and turn on oem unlock... it does work.
But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
cheers
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Still not buying it. It has always been a game of cat and mouse when you're talking about going around security features of a device. Unless the flaw was in hardware, it was almost a given that the device would be updated and the vulnerability patched out. Second if some people did know how to unlock these devices they would almost certainly offer unlock services of some sort or there would be no point in keeping the information secretive.
So what's the point of posting this if you're not going to offer any guidance on how to do it other than essentially saying you have to know "someone".
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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But the key is 'never activated'. It seems pretty clear that what happens when u buy from vzw, they won't give u the phone without activating it. So it has to be old stock, unsold, vzw is trying to move out of their warehouses.
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Nothing about that statement is correct, sorry. It's been proved time and time again.
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If you know how to hack, you know how to do this. Am I going to give a step by step guide? No, I'm not going to sit back and give them the information they need to know. Simple as that. I'll keep hacking every Pixel that comes out, directly ordered from Verizon.
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What's your definition of "hack"?
If you really can do this, why don't you offer to do it for people? I'm sure more than a few would be happy to throw you some $$ to get their Verizon devices unlocked. I did this back in the days of the HTC devices when a Java card was the only bootloader unlock method. You'd also get less blowback than effectively saying "Nah nah I know how to do this but I'm not going to tell you."