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Kaiser TyTn II and Bluetooth Audio

i really hope its me............. i hope its something i am doing wrong
i have heard virtually all HTC products...........and everyone has paired up just fine with my car bluetooth kit (BMW 3 series, 06 plate)
i eagerly awaited the Kaiser as the complete utopic device.............and i still think it is..............except..............THE WEEDY, TINNY, LOW VOLUME audio when on Handsfree !!!!!!!!!!!!
my carkit allows upto 4 devices to be memorised, so i have paired my HTC Touch, my HTC S710 and the TyTn II to it.......... the first 2 are perfect, rich, bassy sound with good volume that is perfectly audible even on the motorway.................
the TyTn II is VERY low, just about audible in stationary traffic and not at all bassy........... you remember those weedy HiFi systems that had about 5w Total output and could be bought for £29.99 !!!!!
i have seen a few posts saying the same thing........... i wonder if it is HTC's ROM that has this??? what about the T-Mobile users or perhaps the Dopod users??
i guess it is objective........... if you have never had a HTC device, you would have nothing to judge it by and therefore you are probably satisfied......but i have had LOADS of different devices, HTC and Mobile carrier branded, and none are as pathetic as the TyTn II on Bluetooth audio........... it is seriously stopping me using it as my main phone device which is such a big shame
PLEASE......... if anyone has any reg tweaks, rom upgrades, suggestions, ideas let me know.............. this £450 device is nowhere near as good as my wife's £30 mobile phone when it comes to audio...............
cheers
Mark
PS have to say, the audio is fine when you listen into the internal speaker or on speakerphone, so not sure it is the audio chip ???

Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.

waremaster said:
Hi. I have the AT&T tilt and I noticed the same thing when using the audio section for playing mp3's via my Jabra BT620's when I play music using the built in wmp I cant quite get the volume I like so I switched to using CorePlayer 1.1.1 which has a preamp option in it and I can tell you for a fact there is nothing wrong with bluetooth volume when you do that. So it is probably going to be an easy software fix or even a simple registry hack to fix the volume issue.
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that sounds good.............but as well as the Bluetooth volume its also the quality of the audio that i find hard to explain, no bass, just really tinny
but....... i would be happy to even increase the volume only at this stage!

Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.

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Something to try: when bluetooth connection is active, tap the speaker icon on the taskbar of your today screen and turn the left hand volume slider up for more A2DP volume and the right hand volume slider up for more handsfree volume. I've tested the left hand slider & it works like a charm for hifi audio. On my 5 series, the audio sounded fine if I just bumped the volume using the steering wheel controls so I haven't tested the effect of the right hand slider on handsfree audio.
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yep, bluetooth active, tap the icon, both sides up at maximum. place a call, turn 'in call' volume up to maximum, still really low and weedy !
tried the steering wheel volume and also the radio volume and still no joy!
as i said, all other devices are fine, just the tytn!
thanks for the suggestion though

maybe theres a problem with the bluetooth/wifi ariel as i have issues with my bluetooth totally failing when i turn on wifi

It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only

joedoe said:
It works fine with the Lexus car kit. However the audio is mono and comes from the left channel only
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if you dont want it in mono try PocketPlayer it will more then likely fix your problem. I love audible books, and this is now my default program for listening to them over bluetooth.

Definitely something wrong with mine. I think we should keep communicating with HTC until they fix it. My Blueant Z9 is unusable. No bass, and when I had the volume turned all the way up [both phone and headset], it almost broke my ear drum. Yet, I hardly can make out the sound coming from the ear set. I had no problem with 8525. It definitely has something to do with the antenna or the driver.
I am hoping HTC will respond to this asap.

I'm using a JawBone and what I notice, is when I use the headset to increase volume, the volume doesn't seem to actually be increasing, even tho the headset is giving acknowledgment beeps.
Seems I don't really have any control over the bluetooth headset volume. Nothing I can perceive anyway.
-James

I can say that the fidelity on the bluetooth stereo is absolutely awesome on mine. I just used Coreplayer so I could boost the volume a tad using the preamp settings.

maybe each profile in your car kit stores unique settings for bass etc - have you tried fiddling with its settings?

There are several threads running about this. I have Jawbones and it appears that it's mainly the phone BT audio that has issues. I can use BT audio toggle and divert Coreplayer or SlingBox or iGuidance Nav sounds out to the Jawbone and they sound loud, bassy and clear.
I then place a call and the sound is wimpy and low. It's not and antenna problem, I use BT internetsharing and BT headsets all day long with this Kaiser with good range. It's "hopefully" a software issue between the phone's audio output to bluetooth. The phone's audio quality on the naitive phone's earpiece and speaker are very good quality, better quality, than my 8525 had.
It's frustrating, it's the only major flaw in the phone and HTC seems clueless in all the responses I've seen to date.

just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark

boyo69 said:
just in case anyone is interested, i have found a small improvement by doing the following:-
using a registry editor
HKLM/Software/Microsoft/Bluetooth/A2DP/Settings
change USEJOINTSTEREO from 1 to 0
if nothing else, it just seems louder.....................
hope it helps
Mark
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Perhaps this tweak could be included in Chainfire's utility?

MP3s too loud...

Hi guys, actually I haven't searched for this problem (doesnt work somehow :/)
so don't lynch me
I have one little problem with my xda diamond - it's too loud.
When I'm listening to music with the standard headset (haven't bought a 3,5mm adaptor yet) I'm always on the last bar and even sometimes that seems to loud (yeah, I have to admit, my ears are pretty sensitive - but that was never a problem with other mobiles). I'm afraid that if I buy that 3,5mm socket and use it with my standard headphones it will get even louder, because their output is very high....
I tried to reduce the volume in the options - I can reduce it to 2-3% which is optimal. But sometimes I get this horrible bug, that some songs are on 2-3% volum WAY louder than on 10 or 20%. Just imagine, you listen to a song and when it ends the next song just starts like "BAMBAMBAMBAM" and your ears are completly numb
Somebody knows how to fix this, or can recommend me a different player?
Would be very grateful
Cheers,
Kashik

Kashik said:
Hi guys, actually I haven't searched for this problem (doesnt work somehow :/)
so don't lynch me
I have one little problem with my xda diamond - it's too loud.
When I'm listening to music with the standard headset (haven't bought a 3,5mm adaptor yet) I'm always on the last bar and even sometimes that seems to loud (yeah, I have to admit, my ears are pretty sensitive - but that was never a problem with other mobiles). I'm afraid that if I buy that 3,5mm socket and use it with my standard headphones it will get even louder, because their output is very high....
I tried to reduce the volume in the options - I can reduce it to 2-3% which is optimal. But sometimes I get this horrible bug, that some songs are on 2-3% volum WAY louder than on 10 or 20%. Just imagine, you listen to a song and when it ends the next song just starts like "BAMBAMBAMBAM" and your ears are completly numb
Somebody knows how to fix this, or can recommend me a different player?
Would be very grateful
Cheers,
Kashik
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Mine is also the same when i have the original headset plugged in, i think the audio booster is set to very high or something, try changing the settings :]

Addictedd said:
Mine is also the same when i have the original headset plugged in, i think the audio booster is set to very high or something, try changing the settings :]
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its not even activated :/
other solutions?

Use mp3gain to adjust the volume of your tracks. This is done (losslessly and reversibly) by adjusting the gain settings encoded into the mp3.
I have all the tracks on my PC set to 92dB but I have increased that volume up to 95dB for the tracks on my Diamond

to make sure:
when you use the up and down volume keys, volume is changed 3 bars at a time (3 out of 15 bars). Have you noticed u can change the volume a bar at a time bij using the touch screen?

pwhooftman said:
to make sure:
when you use the up and down volume keys, volume is changed 3 bars at a time (3 out of 15 bars). Have you noticed u can change the volume a bar at a time bij using the touch screen?
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yeah, but on the first bar with some songs its still too loud.

Kashik said:
yeah, but on the first bar with some songs its still too loud.
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I´d like to have this problem I permanently looking for some tweak to make mp3s playback louder...n I think I´m not stone-deaf

NOT JUST YOU
the speakerphone on my diamand is poo!

liamhere said:
NOT JUST YOU
the speakerphone on my diamand is poo!
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Speakerphone volume seems like to be a joke or what

tommm said:
I´d like to have this problem I permanently looking for some tweak to make mp3s playback louder...n I think I´m not stone-deaf
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maybe its a specific problem with my diamond... anyways, maybe its because of the player - can you recommend me other players?

You haven't been very clear about which player you're actually using!
I assume it's the HTC audio manager in TF3D? You've adjusted the volume of the player (in Schaps Advanced Config or something) down to 2-3% and it's still too loud? Something wrong there.
Try the Windows Media player that should already be installed.
Have you tried downloading and using mp3gain as I suggested above? It sounds like part of your problem is mp3 tracks with wildly different levels.

Hi I don't know if you have tried this obvious sollution yet or not; however, I thought I should mention it anyway, just because I know that when people tend to get frustrated, sometimes the obvious just slips by us.
Remember you have two volume controls on your device when playing MP3's. Your Audio player volume and your main phone volume. Try reducing both until you reach the optimim output level. I know that this really does not solve the problem because really you should not have to do this, but it might work for now.

Kashik said:
maybe its a specific problem with my diamond... anyways, maybe its because of the player - can you recommend me other players?
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Like said above - wm player has its own volume control so try to reduce both

I just bought the bluetooth headset Jabra-3030, and the volume control on that headset acts as a audioplayer control, and not as general volume control (like HTC RC E100). So I can reduce the volume more and it's far better (because when I work I like a low low volume )

Davey101 said:
You haven't been very clear about which player you're actually using!
I assume it's the HTC audio manager in TF3D? You've adjusted the volume of the player (in Schaps Advanced Config or something) down to 2-3% and it's still too loud? Something wrong there.
Try the Windows Media player that should already be installed.
Have you tried downloading and using mp3gain as I suggested above? It sounds like part of your problem is mp3 tracks with wildly different levels.
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i'm using the TF3D integrated player. no i didnt try mp3gain yet. no at 2-3% it is perfectly fine - but sometimes the volume seems to explode, especially with some songs - i see the point there. where can i find the standard WM mp3player btw?

Start digging in Programs

I have the same problem - if I use TFL3D and the standart headset that comes with the device, music is WAY TOO LOUD, even when I bring the volume control to just one bar. Using another music player (even MP) works, but hey, there should be a solution to fix that in TFL3D as well!

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I have the same problem - if I use TFL3D and the standart headset that comes with the device, music is WAY TOO LOUD, even when I bring the volume control to just one bar. Using another music player (even MP) works, but hey, there should be a solution to fix that in TFL3D as well!
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Hmm. I use the music player in TFL3d too. And yup, the volume was a little too loud at first..
Here's a fix :
Using a registry editor, I've changed the following key values:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\music_player_volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Information\volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
Music volume is now comfy, even at 3 to 4 bars

kcinc said:
Hmm. I use the music player in TFL3d too. And yup, the volume was a little too loud at first..
Here's a fix :
Using a registry editor, I've changed the following key values:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Config\music_player_volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager_Eng\Information\volumn --> 20 (default: 100)
Music volume is now comfy, even at 3 to 4 bars
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It works like a charm, thanx

This fix works brilliantly! Thanks!!!
Now I don't have to carry another mp3 player to the library

[Q] Good audio quality in dock?

I have a google car dock for my nexus one and I hook the audio through the car stereo with a 3.5mm audio cable. When it is plugged into the dock the sound is very low and the quality is terrible. If I just pull it out of the dock everything is back to normal -- this happens with all apps.
What do I have to do in order to prevent the phone from doing this while docked?

you have the exact same setup as i do and ive seen this as well, i think there is something that makes the audio play at a different volume specifically for when it is docked for some reason. im on cm6.1.1 and it seems a little better because i believe they tweaked something with it, i saw a checkin on cmsrc on twitter that modified some line with dock volume.
what ive found is if i set the media volume to about 5/8 or 7/8 then dock it the volume will make its "dock adjustment" and its up to where my car volume is from there, usually a little less distortion if the phones volume is a little lower than max. from there if i forget to set the media volume i will use the preamp slider in the poweramp music players equalizer to adjust.
i just wish the volume wouldnt change at all and the volume button on the side of the dock would change the media volume :\
side note: have you noticed that the voice search when docked doesnt pick up your voice very well? almost like the noise canceling mic is cancelling you out or something and other times it can pick up your voice great?

Actually the sound volume was solved by some user that re-compiled libaudio with the code that lowers the sound by 10db commented out. The problem I have is that the sound quality is so poor that it seems to be mono without bass.

It turns out that the crappy audio quality comes from Bluetooth being on. When I disable Bluetooth in car mode, everything is great. Unfortunately I can't figure how to make it disabled by default so I have to disable it everytime.
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[SOLVED] Music "turning down" when song gets louder - Bluetooth

I've been trying to pin point this problem for a while. I've only really noticed this when connecting to my cars bluetooth, but when a song goes into a louder part, it gets quieter. If the song goes through a quiet section, it turns back up.
I'm not talking about the actual phone going through the turning up and down, it's like the software processes it and alters the volume so I can't "get my rock on"
When a song hits a bass section is a good example. The volume may be cool but if some decent bass kicks in, it'll go quieter. If the bass stops, the music will go noticeably louder.
I know it's not the stereo since my old phone and my wife's didn't do it. It's really bad at times as well, on some occasions I've had to turn it up.
I know it's not the files either. It doesn't seem to do it with headphones, and if it does it'll be a lot more subtle because I haven't been able to pick it up.
I've tried turning off the equaliser but hasn't made a difference.
Does any one else have the problem or know what it could be?

ckai said:
I've been trying to pin point this problem for a while. I've only really noticed this when connecting to my cars bluetooth, but when a song goes into a louder part, it gets quieter. If the song goes through a quiet section, it turns back up.
I'm not talking about the actual phone going through the turning up and down, it's like the software processes it and alters the volume so I can't "get my rock on"
When a song hits a bass section is a good example. The volume may be cool but if some decent bass kicks in, it'll go quieter. If the bass stops, the music will go noticeably louder.
I know it's not the stereo since my old phone and my wife's didn't do it. It's really bad at times as well, on some occasions I've had to turn it up.
I know it's not the files either. It doesn't seem to do it with headphones, and if it does it'll be a lot more subtle because I haven't been able to pick it up.
I've tried turning off the equaliser but hasn't made a difference.
Does any one else have the problem or know what it could be?
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Do you have Dynamic Normalizer enabled in the sound effects? Because that is exactly what it does if on.

hontouni said:
Do you have Dynamic Normalizer enabled in the sound effects? Because that is exactly what it does if on.
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Thanks mate. I didn't think it was on and thought I had played around with all those settings before but had a look at it was on.
After turning it off it's improved it. I also noticed the the EQ on the stereo was set to 'Dynamic' which adjusts everything based on the music. I think this as well as having Dynamic Normaliser on amplified the problem.
I feel like a bit of a plonker now not looking at the simple things

Sportify - EQ

Hi All
Just bought my red magic 7 a day before the 7s …. Grim.
Hoping someone knows this issue and how to fix it. When i go into Spotify and find the equaliser i press it and a message comes up about the sound which yeah ill just press ok.
However i then get a message that says disconnect the external devices. Unable to set sound effect.
so i have turned literally everything off that i can think of to get this to work but no it doesn't
Even if i go into sound settings there is no equaliser there either as you have to have a headset plugged in. even then Spotify doesn't want you to use their equaliser. which makes all music really bland.
Hoping someone has come across this before

Hi, I have a 7S Pro and while I've never used spotify, the only EQ is the one they put in the game mode for each individual game afaik
You can try to use Wavelet, its no V4A but its something at least