No Fast Charge - Sony Xperia XZ1 Compact Questions & Answers

I just bought a Xz1 compact. It works great except that it won't fast charge; I've tried using the charger that came with phone and another I had lying around. Is there anything I can do for a fix? I checked the battery settings to make sure none of the options were enabled. I tried disabling Battery Care, but it didn't help.

Is your charger Sony Quick Charger UCH12?
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/

t020608 said:
Is your charger Sony Quick Charger UCH12?
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/
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It's definitely the same shape. No model # tho.

The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.

RonJeremyClarkson said:
The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.
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That's quite cheap of them. The other charger I tried would fast charge my LG G5. Shouldn't it do that same for the XZ1?

adam79 said:
That's quite cheap of them. The other charger I tried would fast charge my LG G5. Shouldn't it do that same for the XZ1?
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What are the specifications of the other charger?

RonJeremyClarkson said:
What are the specifications of the other charger?
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It's an Anker QuickCharge 3.0

adam79 said:
It's an Anker QuickCharge 3.0
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That charger should fast charge the XZ1C then. I did some searching and found out that unlike other manufacturers, Sony phones will not indicate anywhere when the phone is being fast charged:
https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-XZ1-Compact/Quick-Charge-Not-Working/m-p/1281209/highlight/true#M1178
There is an app called Ampere on the Play Store that will show how fast the phone is being charged, but it isn't 100% accurate. The best way to find out would be to simply measure the charging times from empty to full.

I have tested alot of chargers..even a 80 USD USB PD 61w. This damn phone wont charge faster than 1.6 amps @ 5v
Is it some kind of software limitation? I had the P20 and it charges fast as hell with QC3.0. 0-80% in 40mins.
I tested this Xz1 and it took nearly 70mins 0-80% with battery optimization off.
Sony claims and i belive them that battery life will last longer,, but who gives a ****. I want qc3.0 charging speed.
Charging at 5v and around 1.5amps. Ive read somewhere that the battery gets to warm charging like [email protected]
So its not adaptable, i placed my phone with its charger connected thru the window (-2 C) and it had like 2%.
This damn phone is restricted to 1.5-1.6 ampere (5v)..it wont go faster. So why is it QC3.0 cert?
This annoys me alot..isnt there a 30w charger? I guess it wont help.
Im gonna buy one of those plugs that show you amps, wattage and so on..doesnt believe the software you can download.
I believe that XZ1 Compact IS QC3.0 but battery get to warm, so they reduce charging speed...

I personally prefer no fast charge. The physically life of the battery last longer. My Nexus 6P had fast charge, it's not holding up for 2 hours now.

I have read somewhere that you have to disable all the battery saver stuff in order for QuickCharge to fully have effect.
However, even with all that enabled, my phone charges really quick from empty to full in like 2 hours.
Looks good to me.

"These devices contain the hardware necessary to achieve Quick Charge 3.0. It is at the device manufacturer’s discretion
to fully enable this feature."
About devices compatible with qc3.0
Qualcomm website

RonJeremyClarkson said:
The stock charger included in the XZ1 Compact retail box is only 1.5A, it isn't a fast charger and will not fast charge the phone. You will need to get a Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0 compatible charger for fast charging.
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The charger included in my XZ1 Compact's retail box was the Sony Quick Charger UCH12 which is a fast charger compatible with Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0. It also charges my phone reasonably fast.
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/specifications/

t020608 said:
The charger included in my XZ1 Compact's retail box was the Sony Quick Charger UCH12 which is a fast charger compatible with Qualcomm Quickcharge 3.0. It also charges my phone reasonably fast.
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/quick-charger-uch12/specifications/
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Interesting, what country did you get the XZ1C in? In most regions the included charger is the non-fast charging UCH20:
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/usb-charger-uch20/

RonJeremyClarkson said:
Interesting, what country did you get the XZ1C in? In most regions the included charger is the non-fast charging UCH20:
https://www.sonymobile.com/ng/products/accessories/usb-charger-uch20/
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My XZ1C region is Taiwan.

4rz0 said:
I have read somewhere that you have to disable all the battery saver stuff in order for QuickCharge to fully have effect.
However, even with all that enabled, my phone charges really quick from empty to full in like 2 hours.
Looks good to me.
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2 hours is BAD. 2700mAh battery fully charged in 2 hours? The Huawei P20 charges its 4000mAh battery in like 45min.
The UCH20 wont pass 1.5 amps (5v).
If you turn your device off and charging and also turn off the battery opti. i believe 0-100% in like an hour..
And for those who believe its the charger are wrong. I have tried QC 3.0, QC4,0, 61W USB-c. This device is what do you say in English.."strangled" ...software limitation..
What about the XZ2 and the XZ3? Any notification ? They use the same charger i believe

2 hours? Something's wrong. U might have the right charger, but... R u sure u have a decent type c cable? Not all of them are the same (I have some experience, believe me)

maaakn said:
And for those who believe its the charger are wrong. I have tried QC 3.0, QC4,0, 61W USB-c. This device is what do you say in English.."strangled" ...software limitation..
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So you're saying that the XZ1c isn't capable of a fast charge?!!?

Dany XP said:
2 hours? Something's wrong. U might have the right charger, but... R u sure u have a decent type c cable? Not all of them are the same (I have some experience, believe me)
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Got a recommendation for a quality cable? I have a few different ones. The only name I can remember is Brexit, but I could be spelling it wrong.

I use Aukey QC 3.0 . Work great for fast charger since I use Z3C , then Z5C , now XZ1C. I use usb doctor to check volt and ampere, 9V output and 1A++, sometime got 2A when below 15% of battery.
My device is root, and use charge limit for the life time battery.

Related

Quickcharge 2.0 with Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet

I've been using my HTC Rapid Charger Quick Charge 2.0 with my new Sony Xperia Z2 Tablet and it charges in just under 3 hours for a 0 to 100% charge.
Not sure what the standard charge time is with the stock charger, since I haven't even taken it out of the box Just easier for me to use the same charge and cable to charge both my phone and tablet. Has anyone else measured that?
My HTC One M8 usually gets quite hot during quick charging, but didn't notice the same thing with the Z2. It only went up to around 35 degrees at the highest, for a short while.
I need 4.5 hours with stock charger (15% to 100%).
charge
So 2.0 quick charging is working?
Do you really get 60% in first 30 minutes with HTC charger?
Yes, it's listed here:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/devices/all?feature=Quick Charge 2.0
Does anybody know where to buy a quickcharge 2.0 charger with a euro plug?
AleksNY said:
So 2.0 quick charging is working?
Do you really get 60% in first 30 minutes with HTC charger?
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No, those 60% in 30 mins is claimed with a much smaller phone battery..not with our 6000 mAh tablet battery. On my HTC One M8, it gets to about 50% in 30 mins.
madsb said:
Does anybody know where to buy a quickcharge 2.0 charger with a euro plug?
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Are you from Denmark? I bought mine from here: http://www.mytrendyphone.dk/shop/htc-tc-p1000-164522p.html
Not the cheapest option, but the only one with euro plug that i could find.
got official answer:
Thank you for contacting Sony Xperia Support.
To be able to utilise the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology, the smartphone or tablet as well as the charger need to support Quick Charge 2.0. If you want to use a magnetic charging dock, this must also support Quick Charge 2.0.
Currently, there are no original Sony chargers that support the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. This means that, at present, you cannot charge Xperia™ devices using original Sony chargers utilising Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0.
However, some Xperia™ devices and magnetic charging docks are prepared for and support the Qualcomm Quick Charge 2.0 technology. Again, as there is currently no original Sony charger that supports Quick charge 2.0, these devices cannot utilise Quick Charge 2.0 using an original Sony charger.
Regarding the charge time, according to our environmental declaration a full charge takes 5.8 hours while the tablet is turned off.
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AleksNY said:
got official answer:
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Wow, a normal full charge takes 5.8 hours? Even with tablet off..that sounds a bit crazy. Then im definitely glad i'm using the Quickcharger and getting it done in half that time..even with the tablet powered on.
As for the magnetic charger, it has been confirmed in other Xperia forums that Sony's dock and magnet supports Quickcharging, but most 3rd party ones don't. I'm using some cheap magnetic connector from eBay, and it charges quite slow (and half the times the magnet doesn't even keep it connected and it keeps falling off )
from my experience tablet charges in 4 hours (even if it`s turned on, from original SOny charger 1.5A 5V), from 20-30% to full. So this estimation is correct.
Anyone can recommend a good ansd cheap charger that support QC 2.0 or there already some thread about this on XDA somewhere?
AleksNY said:
from my experience tablet charges in 4 hours (even if it`s turned on, from original SOny charger 1.5A 5V), from 20-30% to full. So this estimation is correct.
Anyone can recommend a good ansd cheap charger that support QC 2.0 or there already some thread about this on XDA somewhere?
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Not sure where you are from but there are several good and cheap ones on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OVD3FEU/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
http://www.amazon.com/Qualcomm-Cert...obile_desktop?ie=UTF8&*Version*=1&*entries*=0
There is not really any difference between all of them, as long as they are certified by Qualcomm to work with QC 2.0.
There's a list of all certified chargers on this page: https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
and here is an especial cheap offer http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
So... do ALL z2 Tablets support QuickCharge 2.0 ? Because only the Japanese Z2 Phone supports Quickcharge!
Cool.
My quick charger that came with my samsung galaxy s6 initiates rapid charging on my z2 table, it even says rapidly charging when I plug it in
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Haldi4803 said:
and here is an especial cheap offer http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-explained-563838/
So... do ALL z2 Tablets support QuickCharge 2.0 ? Because only the Japanese Z2 Phone supports Quickcharge!
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I'm from the UK, I have a UK model and it quick charges fine with my samsung galaxy s6 charger which is a higher rated charger
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Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 Portable Fast Charger.... Fast Charging?

Hello,
Has anyone used a Quick Charge portable battery pack before? You know how when you plug it in to the wall or outlet it will say "fast charging", well I don't get that with quick charge.
Is this normal or should I be panicking?
Thanks
Which model do you have? I have the 15,000mah PB-T3 model & it fast charges my phone fine now. The battery pack itself even supports quick charge so the battery pack will charge at 9V with the Samsung adaptive fast charger or 12V with a certified QC 2.0 charger.
I say "now" cause the first one I received melted & died while charging it.
Have you tried another quality cable?
Brava27 said:
Hello,
Has anyone used a Quick Charge portable battery pack before? You know how when you plug it in to the wall or outlet it will say "fast charging", well I don't get that with quick charge.
Is this normal or should I be panicking?
Thanks
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I got this one and it works great.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ZCGLBT6/ref=cm_sw_r_awd_RTniwbKHYM6SX
Also. You need to make sure your cable is plugged into the correct port. I am assuming you have one with two ports, either way if you do have the two ports only one of them is QC 2.0 enabled.
Mine doesn't say, but charges quick -
shouren04 said:
Which model do you have? I have the 15,000mah PB-T3 model & it fast charges my phone fine now. The battery pack itself even supports quick charge so the battery pack will charge at 9V with the Samsung adaptive fast charger or 12V with a certified QC 2.0 charger.
I say "now" cause the first one I received melted & died while charging it.
Have you tried another quality cable?
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I was looking at the 10000mah one, the PB-T4 which is 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches in size.
I cant find anywhere the dimensions of the PB-T3, is there any way you could measure it?
Apache0c said:
I was looking at the 10000mah one, the PB-T4 which is 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches in size.
I cant find anywhere the dimensions of the PB-T3, is there any way you could measure it?
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The dimensions listed on Amazon & most other vendors is wrong. The dimensions you gave that's listed for the PB-T4 on Amazon is the size of my PB-T3. Before purchasing I was looking for dimensions also & in another thread someone measured the PB-T4 to be 6.25 x 2.5 x .75 which makes sense cause the PB-T4 looks narrower & thicker than the PB-T3.
I store mine in a Maxpedition TC-2 pouch.
shouren04 said:
The dimensions listed on Amazon & most other vendors is wrong. The dimensions you gave that's listed for the PB-T4 on Amazon is the size of my PB-T3. Before purchasing I was looking for dimensions also & in another thread someone measured the PB-T4 to be 6.25 x 2.5 x .75 which makes sense cause the PB-T4 looks narrower & thicker than the PB-T3.
I store mine in a Maxpedition TC-2 pouch.
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Wow, so you are saying you can fully confirm the PB-T3 is exactly 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches?
If thats the case then I'm going to buy it tomorrow.
Thanks!
Apache0c said:
Wow, so you are saying you can fully confirm the PB-T3 is exactly 6.5 x 0.6 x 2.9 inches?
If thats the case then I'm going to buy it tomorrow.
Thanks!
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Yes, mine measures 6-1/2 x 2-7/8 x 5/8.
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Yes, mine measures 6-1/2 x 2-7/8 x 5/8.
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Perfect. That seems like the best all around battery pack.
Heck, it's thicker but the footprint isnt much bigger than the LG V10 (or the Note 5 for that matter) itself.
I can carry the phone and batterypack together in my front jeans pocket easy.
Thanks again!
No problem. Yup, that's what I was worried about, being too big but as you said it's not much bigger than my N5 or the V10.
I was unlucky & the first one I got melted during it's first charge (the battery pack, not while charging my phone) so just to be safe keep an eye out on how hot it gets on your first charge. I liked this one the most out of all the others I was looking at so I took a chance with a replacement. Haven't had one problem with the one I have now.
What I like about is the most is it also supports QC2.0 fast charging & at 12v (but you'll need a QC2.0 charger to charge it at 12v & not an OEM that's only 9v max) so it's not just the output that is fast charging.
EDIT: Oh looks like I already mentioned the fast charging input in this thread.
shouren04 said:
No problem. Yup, that's what I was worried about, being too big but as you said it's not much bigger than my N5 or the V10.
I was unlucky & the first one I got melted during it's first charge (the battery pack, not while charging my phone) so just to be safe keep an eye out on how hot it gets on your first charge. I liked this one the most out of all the others I was looking at so I took a chance with a replacement. Haven't had one problem with the one I have now.
What I like about is the most is it also supports QC2.0 fast charging & at 12v (but you'll need a QC2.0 charger to charge it at 12v & not an OEM that's only 9v max) so it's not just the output that is fast charging.
EDIT: Oh looks like I already mentioned the fast charging input in this thread.
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You helped me a lot on this, thanks.
Check it out, I've got my shopping cart loaded up. That Tronsmart 54W, 5 port charger does the QC2.0 12V so I'm hoping it will charge up the Batterypack nicely
BTW, for anyone interested this is another nice looking single port charger also that I want but am holding off on: http://amzn.to/21GlCBh
Thanks again :good:
Apache0c said:
Check it out, I've got my shopping cart loaded up. That Tronsmart 54W, 5 port charger does the QC2.0 12V so I'm hoping it will charge up the Batterypack nicely
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Nice. That charger should do just fine. I like the Tronsmart stuff. I charge mine with the 3 port Tronsmart.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...UTF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart
I also use their compact fast charger in the car.
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Cha...TF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-12&keywords=tronsmart
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Nice. That charger should do just fine. I like the Tronsmart stuff. I charge mine with the 3 port Tronsmart.
http://www.amazon.com/Charger-Trons...UTF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart
I also use their compact fast charger in the car.
http://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-Cha...TF8&qid=1449392027&sr=8-12&keywords=tronsmart
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Yeah, I was looking at that 3-port you have. Interesting that it is such high wattage, at 42W when the 5 port is only 54W. I'm wondering if the 3-Port has faster charging or something but all the QC2.0 port specs seem to be the same.
You might have seen, I'm planning to get this one for the car: http://amzn.to/1OOlcSp
Try this one. At least, you can use this in the near future because of type-c port. I'm definitely satisfied with this product.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B015IZW5RM?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00
Need help with the aukey power bank
Hey i read you've been using the aukey charger.
I an looking to buy yhe same but spectical about the performance.
Does the power bank itself charge using fast charging? If so which charger you use.
How long does it take for the power bank to charge completely using the output of your charger.
Thanks
I purchased the Aukey 3.0 do to the fact that it work with both micro USB 2.0 & USB Type-C 3.0 compatible. (I won't have to buy another one next year! Lol) I have to say it's quite remarkable. Small enough to put in my pocket with phone connected using a small cable. I got from 55% to full in about 17 min. while screen was off. Takes a while to charge the unit itself (which is to be expected with 10,000 mAh) The unit itself can not be fast charged. It also will not fast charge a phone while it is being charged itself. Simply put, with a $20 price tag (now $30), you can't go wrong. Next time I use it, I'll get some screenshots & add to thread.
AUKEY 16000 mah charge time
Hi all,
Thanks for a help-full post. i bought a aukey 16000mah power bank.
When i recharge the device using my Asus charger (5v 2A & 9V 2A ) from
my phone the device does not show full charge indication. The light on
the power button flashes (Breathing effect) RED, GREEN and then
WHITE. It never goes to SOLID WHITE which would indicate 100% charge
even after plugging it in for 9-12 hours.
I have also used a Aukey 10000mah power bank and in 5-6 hours its
light status goes to SOLID WHITE.
Is this issue only with me or has anyone else faced the same? How long
should the device take to recharge itself with 5V 2A rated charger
which is also mentioned on the device's INPUT rating.
Also would like to know if the light ever goes to SOLID WHITE with other users.
Thanks
Wish one of these codes worked on the 20000mah.
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You should avoid Fast Charge or anything like that. It's extremely bad for lithium polymer to be "Fast Charged" the technical behind it is look at your power brick. Anything over 5v charging is to much and will shorten the battery life. I've seen 5.3 and 9.0. I use a 4.8v 2A charger on all my devices. The lithium polymer gets forced above it's operating voltage of 3.7 to 4.1v.

Z3C charger specs

Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
doriandiaconu said:
Can anyone tell me what kind of charger does the Z3C use? I think I lost the one that came with it.
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Didgesteve said:
Any charger that has Qualcomm QuickCharge 2 built in.
They are a little bit more expensive, but are worth it in my eyes.
They charge a lot quicker than normal chargers as the charger monitors battery temp and delivers maximum charge without stressing the battery.
I can charge my phone from under 10% to charged in 2 hours and it's not even warm.
When I plug the phone into my PC at work it gets really hot and I'm sure that's not good for the battery.
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It CAN be charged by any QC 2.0 charger but you won't get any out-of-the-box. The standard charger is EP880 paired together with EC803 charging/data cable. My original charger stopped working after just 10 months and now I'm using Blitzwolf BW-S2QC charger.
But it's true - quickcharging a phone does not even make it hot or anything like that. Unless you start using it but it's my case
I recommend buying QC 2.0 charger.
Be sure the cable you are using supports quick charge 2.0 as well
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Qi Wireless charging problem

Hello!
i've bought Nillkin Disk Charger III which support fast charge (9V/1.7A max 10W) so does original Sony XZ2 charger and XZ2 itself. Sadly, when charging using Nillkin, XZ2 uses normal charging mode, not fast. 25% in hour. Only 400-500mA on wireless charger vs 2600mA on cable. With or without phone case, doesn't matter.
What can I do to charge it faster?
Bump.
Buy offical one by Sony
I use this one and all is fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KJL4XNY/?tag=flv-21&ascsubtag=6987aeb4-b272-4b5f-935b-f94acfec1a3d
chero90 said:
I use this one and all is fine. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01KJL4XNY/?tag=flv-21&ascsubtag=6987aeb4-b272-4b5f-935b-f94acfec1a3d
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Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
So, please use Ampere and report back your results with the Anker, thank you!
doraemon6688 said:
Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
So, please use Ampere and report back your results with the Anker, thank you!
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max with the Anker QI charger was 760mA. I use it to charge it at my office. I never cared about the charging speed A friends Galaxy S9 can use 1420mah with the same charger.
doraemon6688 said:
Can you download Ampere app from the play store and run it while charging on this Anker pad. Let us know if this one can really charge the XZ2 beyond the standard 5w speed. Report the mah if it can exceed the 800mah standard qi rate. Remember, fast wireless charging at 9-10w should be around 1400 to 1500mah.
I have tried 7 different brands of fast 10w wireless chargers so far (but not an Anker yet). None of them can exceed 800mah on the XZ2. I wonder if the official Sony one can really do it at 1500mah.
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I think this video can give you an idea of the Sony wch20 charging profile: https://youtu.be/BnasDqGFcFg close to 1500mah but not for a long time.
I too have a similar question. But it's about maximum allowed power for XZ2 wireless charging.
I just talked with Sony support and they too have no clue how XZ2 Qi wireless work. They told me better to buy (if at all) other brands' chargers with output NOT exceeding 9W, since it is the maximum output by the official Sony wireless charger.
But apparently some 3rd party brand reps told me that Sony uses Qi 3.0 and 10W chargers are completely fine. And all fast charger on Amazon output 10W with Qi 3.0 adapter.
So I am really confused whether those faster charger is safe for XZ2 at all.
'And it is very confusing that the Sony original adaptor has 3 working power: 5 V 2.7A DC, 9V 1.8 A DC, 12 V 1.35 A DC.
What do you guys think?
fredhdx said:
'And it is very confusing that the Sony original adaptor has 3 working power: 5 V 2.7A DC, 9V 1.8 A DC, 12 V 1.35 A DC.
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That's called Qualcomm Quick Charge.
While USB is specified for 5V QuickCharge 2.0 can use 5V, 9V and 12V (not used in phones).
QC 3.0 is even better as it has adaptive Voltage scaling from 4V to 9V theoretically.
Practically it's around 4.6 to 7.5V changing fluently during the charger process.
For normal cable powered charging the device itself decides how much amperage it wants to draw. The wall charger can only set an upper limit like 'only has 1.5A at 5V'
As wireless charging sends out power I think there is a communication between sender and receiver which handles the power output. Haven't really read much about that though.
Hi,
Has anyone found a charger other than the official one that will charge at more than 5W? I bought a 10W wireless charger from Amazon and it only charges at 5V 1A whereas the same charger charges a friends iPhone at 7.55V 1A. Has Sony built something into the phone/software that only enables 9W charging with the official dock?
Thanks
980ctane said:
Hi,
Has anyone found a charger other than the official one that will charge at more than 5W? I bought a 10W wireless charger from Amazon and it only charges at 5V 1A whereas the same charger charges a friends iPhone at 7.55V 1A. Has Sony built something into the phone/software that only enables 9W charging with the official dock?
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Not so far. Got a Seneo fast wireless charger and some other brand I can't remember the name of; both tried with multiple QC charging packs I have lying around (and even Sony's brick supplied with the phone). According to AccuBattery, the XZ2 never pulls more than around 700 mAh, while my Lumia 950 XL hovers around 1700.
I'm thinking you're right, there is something special the XZ2 looks for in their WCH20 wireless charger unfortunately. I've tried turning Battery Care on and off too but that hasn't changed anything as far as raising the current draw.
I really have to try it when the battery is below 20% though to be a fair test.
eelpout said:
Not so far. Got a Seneo fast wireless charger and some other brand I can't remember the name of; both tried with multiple QC charging packs I have lying around (and even Sony's brick supplied with the phone). According to AccuBattery, the XZ2 never pulls more than around 700 mAh, while my Lumia 950 XL hovers around 1700.
I'm thinking you're right, there is something special the XZ2 looks for in their WCH20 wireless charger unfortunately. I've tried turning Battery Care on and off too but that hasn't changed anything as far as raising the current draw.
I really have to try it when the battery is below 20% though to be a fair test.
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Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps so not quite 10W but it charges from 0 to 100% in 2 hours 50 minutes which is much better than the first wireless charger i bought which took over 4 hours 30 minutes at 5W. Hope this helps.
980ctane said:
Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps so not quite 10W but it charges from 0 to 100% in 2 hours 50 minutes which is much better than the first wireless charger i bought which took over 4 hours 30 minutes at 5W. Hope this helps.
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actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
eelpout said:
actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
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I use accurate battery on every device I maintain.
At least to give an alert, if 80% battery capacity is reached during charging.
eelpout said:
actually, 7.45v at 1.2A is 9 watts. Which is reportedly the XZ2's peak draw.
A couple questions:
What did you use to check the charging stats? (I'm using AccuBattery currently). I don't think the latest Xperia phones have any fast charge indications like some other OEM's do.
Was the 7.45V/1.2 amps reading at 0% battery?
Was Battery Care enabled?
Did you happen to check the charge levels at various times during the 2h 50m and see if it fluctuated?
I'm using an Anker QC 3.0 charger with my Seneo which charges great over USB, so I don't think my problem is the charger. I'm going to let mine go to below 20% and try again.
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Sorry, yes I know its almost 9W. I was just making the point that it didn't reach the 10W Anker claim it can.
I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
Battery care was disabled.
Thanks
980ctane said:
Sorry, yes I know its almost 9W. I was just making the point that it didn't reach the 10W Anker claim it can.
I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
Battery care was disabled.
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I think the 9W cap is Sony, not the Anker.
I'm going to send back my Seneo, obviously something is not working right with the XZ2 regards fast charging. Tried it with several different QC chargers, moving it around on the pad etc..
Thanks!
eelpout said:
I think the 9W cap is Sony, not the Anker.
I'm going to send back my Seneo, obviously something is not working right with the XZ2 regards fast charging. Tried it with several different QC chargers, moving it around on the pad etc..
Thanks!
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No problem
I would love to test out the WCH20 but in the UK Sony want £129. Have found it on Amazon for £70 but it's still silly money for a charging dock!
If you're considering the Anker Powerwave, it is very good. My only gripe is even though it stops charging once the phone reaches 100%, the cooling fan keeps running until you remove the phone from the pad which seems like an oversight.
Cheers.
Monolithus said:
Hello!
i've bought Nillkin Disk Charger III which support fast charge (9V/1.7A max 10W) so does original Sony XZ2 charger and XZ2 itself. Sadly, when charging using Nillkin, XZ2 uses normal charging mode, not fast. 25% in hour. Only 400-500mA on wireless charger vs 2600mA on cable. With or without phone case, doesn't matter.
What can I do to charge it faster?
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I have the Nilkin charging stand for my XZ2 Premium and I am more than happy, it takes about 2hrs to go from 50% to full charge, it will never be as fast as wired charging, and the battery life on the Premium is great, I can easily get 2 days but would rarely need that.
Sony WCH20 can do 1700 mAh but only to 50% of battery charge. After that it is slower 1400 mAh and that again slower.
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Update: So I bought an Anker Powerwave wireless charger and QC3.0 adapter which Anker claim supports 10W charging on the XZ2. I have tested it and it charges at 7.45V at 1.2 Amps...
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980ctane said:
I use an inline USB amp meter...
The 7.45V 1.2 amps was from 0% to 70% after that it was 7.45v 1.0 amp until 100%
The 1.2 amps could only be achieved by careful positioning on the pad, if it was slightly to the left/right it would drop to 1.0 amp.
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Guess I'll have to try the Anker Powerwave (which one did you get if I may ask?). I tried yet another brand, which again, fast charges my old Lumia 950 XL just fine around 1600 mAh, but the XZ2 refuses to go beyond ~700 mAh. Wondering if it's my phone or the XZ2's coil is just in a weird spot.
I'll have to spring for an inline USB meter. maybe it'll help me find the "sweet spot."

About the charging with UCH12

Hello. I just bought this XZ1 Compact from a sale. The phone was bundled with UCH20 charger which was a bit disappointing but luckily I had the fast charger, UCH12, from previous Sony phones. I have read that this phone supports Qualcomm's Quick Charge 3.0 so it SHOULD charge quite rapidly. However, when I plugged the phone in the charger, it was charging really slowly. I mean 4.5 hours from 11% to 95%. Should the phone say "charging rapidly" or something at the lock screen?
Anyway, then I decided to test the UCH20 that was bundled with the phone and interestingly it charges a bit faster than the UCH12. This time it took a bit less than 3 hours to charge completely. This UCH12 charger charges rapidly my previous phones so I guess it shouldn't be broken?
What kind of charging speeds have you gotten with the UCH12 charger?
Did you have Battery Care enabled?
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Did you have Battery Care enabled?
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Yes I have. Does it affect the charging speed when below 90% battery?
It shouldn't, but since you only mentioned the total charging time to full 95% and "completely", I figured it wouldn't hurt to make sure.
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It shouldn't, but since you only mentioned the total charging time to full, I figured it wouldn't hurt to make sure.
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Ok. Next time I will toggle it off and see if itmakes any difference. Sadly this battery lasts forever so I have to wait a couple of days to test it
Just bought an XZ1 compact myself, and I'm interested in the answer to this question, too. According to the Sony site, the XZ1 compact is compatible for QC with the UCH12W, but not the UCH12: https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...-charging/02310188014550f700148fcce243e002e57
However, these posts from Sony support suggest that there are no differences between the two, other than the cables that come with them: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...tween-a-UHC20-and-UHC12-chargers/td-p/1297608 https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Wired-accessories/Chargers-UCH12-vs-UCH12W/td-p/1194598
The UCH12W appears to be an international version without US-style bladed contacts, and I can't find it on the US version of the Sony store. Also, when you go to the US Sony store and search for compatible chargers based on phone model, the XZ1 compact shows *no* models, just a car charger. So maybe it's possible that the US model of the quick charger really is incompatible with the XZ1c, even though the phone does have QC capability?
I'd love to hear about a confirmed working (third party is fine) QC charger that's compatible.
meeotch1 said:
Just bought an XZ1 compact myself, and I'm interested in the answer to this question, too. According to the Sony site, the XZ1 compact is compatible for QC with the UCH12W, but not the UCH12: https://support.sonymobile.com/glob...-charging/02310188014550f700148fcce243e002e57
However, these posts from Sony support suggest that there are no differences between the two, other than the cables that come with them: https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xper...tween-a-UHC20-and-UHC12-chargers/td-p/1297608 https://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Wired-accessories/Chargers-UCH12-vs-UCH12W/td-p/1194598
The UCH12W appears to be an international version without US-style bladed contacts, and I can't find it on the US version of the Sony store. Also, when you go to the US Sony store and search for compatible chargers based on phone model, the XZ1 compact shows *no* models, just a car charger. So maybe it's possible that the US model of the quick charger really is incompatible with the XZ1c, even though the phone does have QC capability?
I'd love to hear about a confirmed working (third party is fine) QC charger that's compatible.
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AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
maaakn said:
AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
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Alright now I did some testing with Ampere app and with UCH20 I get 1500 mA charhing, UCH12 I get 2060 mA and third party charger also 2060 mA. This was with battery care protection DISABLED.
This UCH12 however is acting weird and makes my touchscreen go crazy. I will not be using it anymore.
maaakn said:
AS i wrote in this thread sony chargers wont charge faster than 1.5 amps. I also6 posted that i 3rd party charger stated qc3.0 whom ill using now, goes AT 2.0 amps which charges about 1.5% a minute compared to stock about 1%
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Hello maaakn
I just bought the 12UCHw since I have a new XZ1 C coming
I do hope it will charge quicker than the stock charger ?

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