My XZ3 arrived today and the first thing I noticed is the "noise texture" the screen has, which is pretty noticeable on light colours with brightness under 50%.
Is my model faulty or you noticed this aswell?
nort ycagel said:
My XZ3 arrived today and the first thing I noticed is the "noise texture" the screen has, which is pretty noticeable on light colours with brightness under 50%.
Is my model faulty or you noticed this aswell?
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It's expecially visibile with gray, atleast on my model. But it can be seen on white aswell. It's like a thin veil of dirt / dust on all the whites (not visible when brightness is at 100%)
seriously a bummer
Not sure if it's simply the dimming effect or you feel the image is grainy but I experience none of this as well. I can't even use full brightness unless I'm out in the sun.
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Not sure if it's simply the dimming effect or you feel the image is grainy but I experience none of this as well. I can't even use full brightness unless I'm out in the sun.
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I can clearly see a noisy pattern with lighter colours. It's clearly visibile when for example using google, as if the display was dirty from oil (altough the front glass is not).
Possibly defective unfortunately
Would it be possible if you took a picture of it using another device?
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Would it be possible if you took a picture of it using another device?
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Sadly I don't have a camera capable of highlighting the issue but everyone I showed the phone to noticed it.
A "noise texture" would be the best way to describe it. It's uniform on the display and visible when brightness is under 60-70%
My phone has this but I just assumed it was some property of the OLED screen. It doesn't really bother me at all.
I don't think it's deffective, it's just the OLED fabrication process from LG. If you come from a Samsung phone with an OLED screen, you can easily notice the graininess. I had the Pixel 2 XL before the XZ3 which also had an older gen OLED panel made by LG and it exhibited a similar effect on white/gray backgrounds.
mufunyo said:
My phone has this but I just assumed it was some property of the OLED screen. It doesn't really bother me at all.
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It really bothers me. It's not supposed to be this way and it's CLEARLY visible under max brightness.
Geo2160 said:
I don't think it's deffective, it's just the OLED fabrication process from LG. If you come from a Samsung phone with an OLED screen, you can easily notice the graininess. I had the Pixel 2 XL before the XZ3 which also had an older gen OLED panel made by LG and it exhibited a similar effect on white/gray backgrounds.
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The screen is not made by LG but by JDI. I confronted XZ3 display with other OLEDs (s6, s7, iphone xs and oneplus 6t) and the other ones got no effect of that sort.
It's not normal at all. I'd say it's a pretty serious problem regarding bad units of OLEDs since not only it hinders the light colours but it makes the image look less sharp and clear (the colours are not pure, therefore the contrast is hindered).
This worries me since at this point I'm not even sure Sony will recognize the issue.
As I tought I'm not the only one having it but people are not even considering it an issue because they consider it "normal". So much for the phone whose biggest pro was supposed to be the screen.
nort ycagel said:
The screen is not made by LG but by JDI. I confronted XZ3 display with other OLEDs (s6, s7, iphone xs and oneplus 6t) and the other ones got no effect of that sort.
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Unfortunately, you're wrong.
The panel is made by LGD, since JDI is still not mass-producing smartphone OLED panels (expected in 2019).
Syberyon said:
Unfortunately, you're wrong.
The panel is made by LGD, since JDI is still not mass-producing smartphone OLED panels (expected in 2019).
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then I'm afraid you are right. It seems like it's a common issue among the pixel 2 XL panel.
No idea why the whole world having xz3 didn't point it out tough.
nort ycagel said:
The screen is not made by LG but by JDI. I confronted XZ3 display with other OLEDs (s6, s7, iphone xs and oneplus 6t) and the other ones got no effect of that sort.
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All of those, except maybe the oneplus, have samsung screens, which is light-years ahead of every other manufacturer.
You can look for the LG V30 and V40 screens. They're in a very similar spot: v30 - 2017 manufacturing process, very noticeable grain; v40 - 2018 manufacturing process, much better screen, less noticeable grain.
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then I'm afraid you are right. It seems like it's a common issue among the pixel 2 XL panel.
No idea why the whole world having xz3 didn't point it out tough.
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I think "the whole world" is a gross overstatement. Sony's mobile division just reported their worst year in sales. They've always been a niche brand, but I don't think the XZ3 sold very well.
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All of those, except maybe the oneplus, have samsung screens, which is light-years ahead of every other manufacturer.
You can look for the LG V30 and V40 screens. They're in a very similar spot: v30 - 2017 manufacturing process, very noticeable grain; v40 - 2018 manufacturing process, much better screen, less noticeable grain.
I think "the whole world" is a gross overstatement. Sony's mobile division just reported their worst year in sales. They've always been a niche brand, but I don't think the XZ3 sold very well.
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Lots of reviewers are calling the XZ3 display as one of the absolute bests (some stating its the best they've ever seen).
Even GSMArena that does lab measurements didnt say anything.
Its as if no one noticed anything.
Its straight out weird and that's why I tought I had a defective unit.
nort ycagel said:
Sadly I don't have a camera capable of highlighting the issue but everyone I showed the phone to noticed it.
A "noise texture" would be the best way to describe it. It's uniform on the display and visible when brightness is under 60-70%
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I put my xz3 and my xzp side by side and I think I can see the "noise texture"? Not sure if I really see it, or just my mind thinking that there is one, or I'm just not seeing it at all. Nevertheless, if you think it's an issue, you can try having it sent for warranty? Some people have said it's normal, some have not.
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I put my xz3 and my xzp side by side and I think I can see the "noise texture"? Not sure if I really see it, or just my mind thinking that there is one, or I'm just not seeing it at all. Nevertheless, if you think it's an issue, you can try having it sent for warranty? Some people have jsaid it's normal, some have not.
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Try putting 50% brightness and open the settings app. It's a clear paper effect on my unit
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Try putting 50% brightness and open the settings app. It's a clear paper effect on my unit
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Tried it out in the service test menu > display (all white screen). Also in settings as well. My brightness is up to at least 70% (and tried it with 50), and still not seeing the noise texture. I'm just going to guess now that I don't have that issue, or I really just can't see it. Sorry man.
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Tried it out in the service test menu > display (all white screen). Also in settings as well. My brightness is up to at least 70% (and tried it with 50), and still not seeing the noise texture. I'm just going to guess now that I don't have that issue, or I really just can't see it. Sorry man.
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no big deal
its most likely worse on some units
Don't see it at all, and I've had 3.
Looks as grainy (or lack thereof) as my xz2 premium and xz1p screen
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Hi there,
The Galaxy Note is my first phone with a LED screen, I had a Desire HD before.
Since I got my Galaxy Note, the screen seems a bit yellowish to me.
When you tilt it a little bit to the side, you see the while colors becomes more white, but when you tilt it back, so the screen is right in front of you, then the white colors looks a bit yellowish again.
Is this normal for a LED screen?
I don't like the yellowish tint at all, but for the rest the screen looks amazing.
Thanks for your answers
Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
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Hmm I don't really notice any sort of yellow tint on my screen but then again I'm not the most color observant person . What you can try is go int settings==>display==>screen mode and change it from standard to dynamic or movie. I have it on dynamic and love it.
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Yea I already tried dynamic mode, it makes the yellowish tint a little less, but it's still there.
You can notice it by yourself by tilting the phone.
Just put something on your screen that has a white color, and watch the screen from the side, it looks much nicer then.
Ohyea, by the way.
You can also notice the yellowish very good if you put the screen mode on movie
Just got my Galaxy Note N7000 today and noticed the same issue on mine. Tilting the screen slightly makes the whites look pure white while in its normal position the screen looks kinda yellow. I am not being able to understand if this is a faulty set or not
SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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SAMOLED screens are supposed to have superior viewing angles, it is believed that the Oleophobic coating is causing the green/blue/yellow tinting that you see when the phone is tilted ( well in your case its a direct view ) my first screen had absolutely no color shift even at the most extreme angles, the new one I have now has a blue tint unless directly viewed.
The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
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So what you are saying here is that we should use our phone while we keep it tilted? LOL
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The norm is supposed to have great viewing angles and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
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How hard is that to understand?
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How hard is that to understand?
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Well, you don't have to be upset like that.
What I'm trying to say is that if you tilt the phone, it has great colors.
But when you look straight onto the screen, you see a yellowish screen.
Your conclusion is that the viewing angle are very good, and only shift in really extreme and non usable angles.
Looking straight onto the screen should not be a non usable angle.
And Im not the only one who's saying it, but when you tilt the phone, the colors looks much nicer.
Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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Im not upset, I just found it amusing why it was not understood right off the bat.
Have your screen/phone replaced, thats clearly a quality control issue.
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But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
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But I just got it new, and more people are complaining about it (also some outside xda).
So I am wondering if it worths it to replace it, because it can happen again.
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Thats something only you can decide, IMHO thats a hardware defect.
Another person posted the same thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1440582
If you google for Galaxy Note + green tint you'ed get a few results including this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1335161
Some users report is as normal and accept it as normal, If its normal Im wondering why theres a green and blue tint difference and a few screens dont even have any tinting even at extreme angles. Like the first one I got (but had very visible horizontal lines )
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
If I will be in the center of my city, I will ask the phone store what they think, and what they will do to solve it.
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Interesting.
Actually I'm not a whiner, so I can live with the tint for 2 years, but still...
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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All upto you, I how ever prefer to enjoy my device as defect free as possible. Especially for this device that boasts a 'great screen' and the high price tag.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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True.
But I don't expect a device to be defect when it is just new.
Still there are also some people that say it is normal.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
joshoon said:
I also got a friend, he's a designer, and works with photoshop etc, and colors are very important to him.
I also told him about this issue, he said it happens more with screen, and it is seen as normal for these screens where it appears with.
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He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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This is the reason why quality control is so random with samsung, people accepting defects as normal but dont let my expectations be yours as long as your happy with the device thats what is important.
He does have a point normally a screen comes in warm,cool and neutral depending on the factory calibration. These things can be normal as long as the user accepts them to be.
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Clear enough
I'll see what I will do then
Thanks for your great answers!
No problem, Keep us posted on whatever you decide.
I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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I've had four blue Galaxy Notes and one white and they all exhibit varying degrees of tint with some less noticeable than others. Some have a more warmish yellow tint while others are cooler with more of a blue tint. It was the same way on the Galaxy S2. The best you can hope for in getting a replacement is one that has a tint that's less noticeable or if you prefer a cooler tint to the warmer tint.
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Yea well, I will live with it for now, because I love it too much to loose it, hehe.
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Just noticed that I can visibly see the LED pixels on the screen.. Anyone else have this happen after having the phone for a bit?
It's 493ppi so seeing 1 OLED pixel seems out there even for most people. I have 20/10 vision correct with contacts and I can't see them even if I try. Maybe if I had a dead pixel I could see it, but normally I can't see anything.
My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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My display looks like Christmas tinsel
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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Can you take a picture of it with another phone? If it looks like that I would RMA it.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I couldn't get the other phone to focus on the pixels. I put in a request with AT&T for a replacement under warranty.. Just concerned with the build quality of the device since I've only owned it for a couple weeks and have this issue. Its a damn expensive device to have issues like this.
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I didn't have that issue on my first Nexus 6 but I did have a camera issue. My second one is excellent no issues so far. I had my first one for 7 weeks before I had to RMA it.
I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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I have perfect vision (my optometrist is jealous) and I can't resolve individual pixels on the display when held at "normal" distances.
After using the Nexus 6 though, I can resolve the pixels on my N7 LTE under certain conditions, after never having noticed it before. Drives me nuts.
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That's how it is when I use Mt wife's S5 it's almost annoying because I can see them sometimes when I didn't used to. That started after having my G3 for the past 7 months
So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Yes that's correct.
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So just to be clear, when y'all are looking at the screen with a white background, you don't see red, blue, and green dots, correct?
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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Not corrected. I can see them also. It is mostly because of the uneven pentile pixel layout. Coming from an LG G3 which is stripe RGB you will definitely see a difference in quality. G3 is much more ordered and cleaner vs N6 a bit grainy with slight pink side. However, in my opinion it is an illusion because of a vertical vs diagonal layout. In both cases the blend is even.
My guess is that your new unit will not be any different.
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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My previous device was the G2 and in certain lights you can see the pixels with the screen off, especially outdoors. However, I don't see the pixel arrangement with the screen off on the N6; and I don't recall seeing the pixels prior to today.. Maybe it wasn't evident at first and maybe my eyes are now focused on the pixels, but I don't think you should be able to see RGB light reflections when viewing the phone display straight on. My HP laptop has the same affect when the screen has some wet spots; but the fact is, I can wipe dry those spots and the RGB reflections are gone. I don't have time to go to a brick and motor store to view the phones on display, and the new device should be in my hands mid-week.
Here's a thought - I installed the Skinomi Techskin a few days ago (probably a week now). Wondering if this screen protector is causing this?
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So are you talking about seeing pixels when the screen is on or when the screen is off?
The die of the pixel arrangement will be visible under certain angle in just the right light when the screen is off.
Also, screen protectors can cause this to be amplified for sure. It all depends on the quality of that screen protector.
This characteristic is just one of those things you have to put up with when you're dealing with resolution cheating samsung crappy pentile amoled displays. I was hoping that the QHD would be enough to overcome the pentile, but that doesn't seem to be entirely the case for some.
At least (if tmo ever decides to actually ship it) it won't be as bad as my last cheating samsung amoled... a 4" 800x480.
I figured going into this, that the display would be pretty crappy. Too big, and amoled pentile... but after suffering with non-nexus devices for a few years (last one was a "nexus zero" -- ADP1...), I just don't feel like fighting with the thing, so fact of being a nexus > crappy display.
Seems some of users have this defect and it would be nice to see how many are affected, I know there's another thread but I felt this issue needed a proper poll.
I have it too, it's only noticeable on white or nearly white backgrounds like in the settings app, it's a slight yellow/Amber tint covering around 1/5 of the bottom part of the screen, starting gradually and ending at the bottom.
Take a quick look by opening the settings menu, and having a close look, it might not be noticeable at first.
it might not be noticeable with very high brightness
Please let us know if you have this issue.
I have a slight issue in the display where the top left corner seems distorted as if the display is getting folded.
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I have a slight issue in the display where the top left corner seems distorted as if the display is getting folded.
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I guess the quality control is somewhat sub par, I'm leaning towards not sending my unit in as everything else works fine, and the tinting is mostly not noticeable.
I guess they have some issues gluing the display into the frame and it gets slightly distorted.
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I guess the quality control is somewhat sub par, I'm leaning towards not sending my unit in as everything else works fine, and the tinting is mostly not noticeable.
I guess they have some issues gluing the display into the frame and it gets slightly distorted.
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Yep! It's minor issue and the phone is excellent otherwise which is why I too am not bothering with claims or anything as such.
I exchanged mine and got a nearly perfect screen,
What I would suggest is try to go to your local phone repair shop and ask them to put it under the Ultraviolet Light for 10 mins. It should help since phones use UV activated adhesive (LOCA/OCA)
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I exchanged mine and got a nearly perfect screen,
What I would suggest is try to go to your local phone repair shop and ask them to put it under the Ultraviolet Light for 10 mins. It should help since phones use UV activated adhesive (LOCA/OCA)
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How perfect is nearly perfect?
And how would the UV-light help the issue?
Even i changed mine n its 2nd n7p. Still the yellow tint is present on this one but little less than the previous one. So sticking with it.. may be some live display or configurable colour settings would help if Nokia (hmd) put it on android p.
Or even in further near update . Otherwise m going to nokia care next month. Lets see what happens
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Even i changed mine n its 2nd n7p. Still the yellow tint is present on this one but little less than the previous one. So sticking with it.. may be some live display or configurable colour settings would help if Nokia (hmd) put it on android p.
Or even in further near update . Otherwise m going to nokia care next month. Lets see what happens
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So you got it replaced and the new phone had the same issue?
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So you got it replaced and the new phone had the same issue?
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Yes it is still having the same issue but little less than the 1st one
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Yes it is still having the same issue but little less than the 1st one
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Mine looks like this, it's very slight, how does it compare to yours? I don't think I want to risk getting a replacement.
I have to say it looks worse on the picture than in real life.
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Mine looks like this, it's very slight, how does it compare to yours? I don't think I want to risk getting a replacement.
I have to say it looks worse on the picture than in real life.
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Yes like this only but mine is little less. On the 1st one it was exactly the same as urs.. but now on 2nd one its half of that yellowish
I had this, exchanged, got a new one with slightly less of the issue but still present. It's slowly going away with time, think it may be similar to some phones in the past where the glue hadn't completely set and required some heat from the panel being on, or possibly UV from the sun, to go clear.
I have it, but it's only really noticable at very low brightness and on completely white backgrounds. Even then it's pretty subtle. Sad, that this "premium" midrange phone has such a problem.
I sent mine back, it was bugging me too much, I even took a measurement with my Spyder3 calibrator, and comparing the top and bottom portions of the screen, I measured a delta E of 7.41 on a perfect white background.
I'm no expert but according to wiki and other resources 2-5 already indicates that is a heavy discoloration and is perceived as another color/tone, so it definitely wasn't just in my eyes.
I will try my luck with another unit, and if it has the same issue I will just leave it be.
Do you still have the problem (as of July)?
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Even i changed mine n its 2nd n7p. Still the yellow tint is present on this one but little less than the previous one. So sticking with it.. may be some live display or configurable colour settings would help if Nokia (hmd) put it on android p.
Or even in further near update . Otherwise m going to nokia care next month. Lets see what happens
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HI! I was just about to buy the Nokia 7 Plus, But now I am worried about this screen tinting problem that everyone seems to be complaining about. Can you please tell me if you still have the problem? Has anyone found a solution?
Thank you.
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Shebee said:
Seems some of users have this defect and it would be nice to see how many are affected, I know there's another thread but I felt this issue needed a proper poll.
I have it too, it's only noticeable on white or nearly white backgrounds like in the settings app, it's a slight yellow/Amber tint covering around 1/5 of the bottom part of the screen, starting gradually and ending at the bottom.
Take a quick look by opening the settings menu, and having a close look, it might not be noticeable at first.
it might not be noticeable with very high brightness
Please let us know if you have this issue.
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HI! I was just about to buy the Nokia 7 Plus, But now I am worried about this screen tinting problem that everyone seems to be complaining about. Can you please tell me if you still have the problem? Has anyone found a solution?
As of July 2018, do the products still have this issue?
Thank you.
It is hardware issue some part of phones, software update is not a solution. You have lucky and get phone without it, or you are out of luck and get it with yellow tint. Simple.
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So, today at night I noticed that when I'm in the camera in dark areas, or in Spotify with a dark background. I noticed that the screen in the middle from the notch till the chin has a lighter colour than the edges. The width of it is about half the screen centred in the middle. It's kinda like how Zack (jerryrigeverything) puts a lighter to the screen and the pixels turn white, but it's not that extreme. It's only noticeable in low brightness, and dark backgrounds, not black. The most noticeable was in video on the front camera. The "stain" has a lighter blueish tone to it.
I'll leave some pictures for you to test them. I know that when I checked on my phone again with light, the stain wasn't there. Test them in a low lit area, and lower the brightness almost to the lowest setting.
The second pic is the front camera (the most noticeable in person). On xda, I find Spotify to the most noticeable.
Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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Ok. I'll test it tonight. If I use another camera, it'll just blow the image or just won't show up.
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Yes this must be due to DC dimming, called anti-flicker in the settings, shut that off and see if it gets better. If you want to show us how it looks you will have to take a photo of the screen with another camera since it doesn't show in a screenshot. That picture is captured before it is sent to the display. The "anti-flicker" setting is known to produce distortion at low light conditions.
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I just checked settings, and I have that I had it switched off. I'll see if it makes a difference.
karolak-33 said:
Maybe I'm blind but for me everything is ok. Maybe you have DC dimming on. Sometimes screen may look weird in dark areas with that option turned on.
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so ive tested it on and off. With dc on, it made worse. So i left it off. The picture ive taken (which was the best i could take) shows a green hue highlighted with the circle. I dont think its the screen protector as it only shows up on low brightness and dark colours, especially grey. Any ideas?
P.s. It looks a bit worse in person than in the pic.
Oh, now I see but I couldn't reproduce it on my Mi9, no matter what brightness or with DC dimming on/off. I'm afraid it may be some screen issue.
That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Thanks for the reply mate! Is there any way to tell what specific (display) model do I have?. My box says it was manufactured in July.
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That's a dark gray uniformity issue, it's fairly standard on oleds, especially low end ones such as this one. On mine the green tint is most prominent on the top right corner and gradually lessens to the opposite corner. There might be more uniform ones out there but they're like what, 1 in 10 units? If you say yours actually looks worse than in the photo you might have one of the worse ones, but if you can exchange this unit don't expect to get one that's significantly better. To get one that's surely better you have to go for the more expensive ones because those use newer generation panels so the uniformity issues only show at the darkest of grays and and the brighter parts will actually be brighter white which is correct, not green as is the case with the mi 9 panel(pre 2017 panel, samsung stopped having this issue on the s8).
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Since I never saw this on a Mi9, not mine or any other, I don't think this is true in the case of the Samsung display used by Xiaomi on the Mi9.
The topic starter should contact the seller and get a replacement.
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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Will all the hassle be worthwhile though?
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That’s entirely up to you! Can you disregard the distortion you will be ok, but if you find yourself constantly noticing it and being annoyed by it then it will be well worth the hassle I would guess. But only you know what’s right!
Have this on mine, ordered another one in hopes that I can get a better one but it was slightly worse, checked the one they had in a newly opened mi store, that one had it as well to a similar degree. Saying this doesn't happen on the mi 9 is bollocks, all of them have it to some extent, it's a question of how much you're willing to tolerate.
The best thing you can do IMO when you're in a pickle about returning something is do what I said I did: order another one but keep the first one around, compare and just keep the one you like more. That way you won't feel bad about returning the first one and being stuck with the 2nd or just being stuck with the 1st if you don't return at all. Obviously it all depends if you can fit all this into however much time you've got left to return, I was lucky to have 30 days.
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Hi All,
I also experience the touch screen issue on my Galaxy S20 FE.
I have created a short video on how to check and reproduce it: Galaxy S20FE touch screen issue - testing and reproducing
Please share your comments if you also experience it.
Did that experiment and i think my device is "ghost touch free".
Sent from my S20 FE 5G
maderos said:
Did that experiment and i think my device is "ghost touch free".
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Yes, if you don't experience this, you unit is issue-free. I have also asked others to test, they have no issue at all.
This is why I think that *might* be a hardware/production issue.
carlosmeldano said:
Yes, if you don't experience this, you unit is issue-free. I have also asked others to test, they have no issue at all.
This is why I think that *might* be a hardware/production issue.
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Yes, that's what it would seem to suggest - and it's discouraging, I was really hoping this was a software issue. Would the 120 Hz refresh be a factor in this? That is, do you get the same result at 60 Hz?
jtOttawa said:
Yes, that's what it would seem to suggest - and it's discouraging, I was really hoping this was a software issue. Would the 120 Hz refresh be a factor in this? That is, do you get the same result at 60 Hz?
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Nothing. Either under charging or not, either 60Hz or 120Hz, no matter if Touch Sensitivity is set to low or high, it happens.
But as it doesn't happen for everyone with the same software, it tends to be a hardware issue or a production defect.
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Nothing. Either under charging or not, either 60Hz or 120Hz, no matter if Touch Sensitivity is set to low or high, it happens.
But as it doesn't happen for everyone with the same software, it tends to be a hardware issue or a production defect.
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Very interesting, and helpful - thank you.
Tested mine with no issues but I had a bit of red tint on the screen as I have posted in another thread.
I just checked mine and I have the same issue, would samsung rma for this?
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Tested mine with no issues but I had a bit of red tint on the screen as I have posted in another thread.
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Thanks for the feedback. It seems not all users are having this issue. If you cannot reproduce the issue following the video instructions, then you are touch error-free. But then, it shows that it is not a general issue, but some manufacturing defect. For the red tint, I have seen your other post, I also have a barely visible greenish one, around where the camera is, and around the bottom 1/3 mark. But as it was stated, it is somewhat "normal".
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Thanks for the feedback. It seems not all users are having this issue. If you cannot reproduce the issue following the video instructions, then you are touch error-free. But then, it shows that it is not a general issue, but some manufacturing defect. For the red tint, I have seen your other post, I also have a barely visible greenish one, around where the camera is, and around the bottom 1/3 mark. But as it was stated, it is somewhat "normal".
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Do you notice a red tint when looking off angle at the screen?
I notice it somewhat when looking directly at the screen but very visible off screen, when using a white screen though.
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I just checked mine and I have the same issue, would samsung rma for this?
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Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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Do you notice a red tint when looking off angle at the screen?
I notice it somewhat when looking directly at the screen but very visible off screen, when using a white screen though.
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I notice it under normal circumstances like browsing, while straight looking at it, when the page background is like pale yellow/orange. It is only a bit visible, but when you read text and scroll, it is disturbing that the greenish tint remains on the screen. But honestly, this is not that bad. On a white background, I don't even notice it.
When I look from a bottom angle and moving the phone's angle, the tint bars move as well.
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Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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where are you located? I was thinking about doing this too for my red tint issue. but sounds like a lot of trouble. I would agree that you definitely need a new phone
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I notice it under normal circumstances like browsing, while straight looking at it, when the page background is like pale yellow/orange. It is only a bit visible, but when you read text and scroll, it is disturbing that the greenish tint remains on the screen. But honestly, this is not that bad. On a white background, I don't even notice it.
When I look from a bottom angle and moving the phone's angle, the tint bars move as well.
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You mean are referring to the green tint correct? Are you saying that you have no reddish/pink tint at all on your phone?
I notice it very clearly when looking at it at angle or even normal position. And I can see it move when I move the phone to different positions.
the XDA review has the same issue actually (nothing on the touchscreen): https://www.xda-developers.com/samsung-galaxy-s20-fe-review/
"The viewing angles, though, are disappointing because the display still features visible angular color shifting to blue as well as a rainbow out interference effect at extreme angles. Newer Samsung OLED panels have eliminated the rainbow out interference effect, and also reduced off-axis color shifting by a significant amount. The Galaxy S20+’s viewing angles, for example, are much better because the color shifting is much lower. Strangely, even the cheaper Galaxy M51 (review) doesn’t feature the interference effect issue (that is likely caused by the polarizer)."
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where are you located? I was thinking about doing this too for my red tint issue. but sounds like a lot of trouble. I would agree that you definitely need a new phone
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EU. I bought the phone in the official German Samsung webshop. If I would be out of the return period, I would of course take it to the Service Center even with the red tint, but this way, I will just return it.
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You mean are referring to the green tint correct? Are you saying that you have no reddish/pink tint at all on your phone?
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True, I have no reddish tint, I have some greenish one When looking straight at the phone, it is around the opposite side of the camera, and about a thumb tall. But really, not that visible, I just see it because I know it is there
I read the quoted article. This can also easily happen because of Gorilla Glass 3, maybe it has different inner reflection that causes these bands.
carlosmeldano said:
Good question. I spoke with Samsung Support and they wanted me to visit the Service Center. I told them that I will not spend that much time on it, this phone is too expensive for having this kind of support. I will just return it and ask for a refund, then wait 1-2 months if the problem is solved.
I was just thinking yesterday...
This phone has Gorilla Glass 3 on the display, which is a way different structure than current GG6 (or GG4). GG3 is much thicker and more acts like a glass (breaks easier). Since GG4, newer Gorilla Glasses are more flexible, thinner, and more durable, too.
What if Samsung has just put a thick glass on top of a modern digitizer (touch panel) which was designed for a different structure and much thinner glass layer, and this causes the touch problems?
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That sounds reasonable...however, what about all the phones using GG5, 6, or above that have a tempered glass screen protector on them, which would certainly make the glass atop the digitizer much thicker, and that do NOT have any touch issues? It seems to me that the thickness of the glass...up to a reasonable measure that I do not know what it may be...is not the issue here because my S20 FE does not have the touch issues. But mine does always turn on in my pocket. So it seems as if the proximity sensor is faulty. I wonder if this "bug" is somehow related to the touch issues. Though they appear to be different problems...they are related to how the screen works. Clearly something is wrong and I am not sure that any of it can be fixed with software. SMH
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That sounds reasonable...however, what about all the phones using GG5, 6, or above that have a tempered glass screen protector on them, which would certainly make the glass atop the digitizer much thicker, and that do NOT have any touch issues? It seems to me that the thickness of the glass...up to a reasonable measure that I do not know what it may be...is not the issue here because my S20 FE does not have the touch issues. But mine does always turn on in my pocket. So it seems as if the proximity sensor is faulty. I wonder if this "bug" is somehow related to the touch issues. Though they appear to be different problems...they are related to how the screen works. Clearly something is wrong and I am not sure that any of it can be fixed with software. SMH
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You are right, I also thought of it, but not only the thickness, but also the material structure can cause problems like transferring more static electricity to the digitizer that cause ghost touches. And the glass screen protector is on top of the screen which is far enough in distance from the digitizer. I can also imagine that combining this digitizer with GG3 would require less manufacturing tolerance than they used, and that causes just too much defective units. Just guessing...
But as you also stated, problems are mostly with the screen and touch panel. Ghost touches, incorrect finger recognition causing jerks, pocket wakeup, reddish/greenish tint on the screen. And +1: not all users have this problem.
If this would be a software-related issue, all models would be affected more or less. If some units are fine, some are wrong, with the exact same software, then it should be a hardware-related problem. Question: do they used different brand of digitizers for different units, or there is just a huge ratio of defective units coming out of the factory because they had to put as many units on sale as they could because Pixel 5 and iPhone 12 has arrived and they wanted to catch a lot of customers? Just guessing, again...
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True, I have no reddish tint, I have some greenish one When looking straight at the phone, it is around the opposite side of the camera, and about a thumb tall. But really, not that visible, I just see it because I know it is there
I read the quoted article. This can also easily happen because of Gorilla Glass 3, maybe it has different inner reflection that causes these bands.
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So strange, every one of the phones I looked at in the store has these bands. Surprised yours does not.
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So strange, every one of the phones I looked at in the store has these bands. Surprised yours does not.
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If watching from bottom angle, I see the bands, but in straight view, I only see some greenish tint. It is not very disturbing for me. I mean, I have a LED TV, which has some of these typical IPS clouding effect on the screen edges. 99% of the time, it is not visible because the content is bright. But when watching a movie that has a night scene and there is no ambient light in the room, it is awful. But in general, I like the TV
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If watching from bottom angle, I see the bands, but in straight view, I only see some greenish tint. It is not very disturbing for me. I mean, I have a LED TV, which has some of these typical IPS clouding effect on the screen edges. 99% of the time, it is not visible because the content is bright. But when watching a movie that has a night scene and there is no ambient light in the room, it is awful. But in general, I like the TV
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Interesting, thank you for the response. I see the red tint straight on and at angles too, so maybe we have a similar issue but a different color?
I also have a LG OLED, which can look quite bad in some very dark scenes because of banding.
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Interesting, thank you for the response. I see the red tint straight on and at angles too, so maybe we have a similar issue but a different color?
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That might be the case! Different color, but the same tint / band.