who made P20 Pro Camera Module? - Huawei P20 Pro Questions & Answers

first sorry if i open wrong topic, but i can not find anywhere who made P20 Pro Camera Module. please if anyone knows who is p20 pro camera module maker please message me.
lenses made by Leica but camera module? i think Huawei as all best cameraphones uses Sony imx camera modules.
thanks.

siemensfun1 said:
first sorry if i open wrong topic, but i can not find anywhere who made P20 Pro Camera Module. please if anyone knows who is p20 pro camera module maker please message me.
lenses made by Leica but camera module? i think Huawei as all best cameraphones uses Sony imx camera modules.
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P20 pro
- 40mp 1/1.7” sensor size by Sony IMX 600
- 1um pixel size at 40mp, but after pixel binning using 10mp resolution, it becomes 2um big pixel size.
U can find all of the list here - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exmor

thanks for information.
and what about other 20mp and 8mp camera modules? they are made by Sony too?

Usually camera modules for Huawei made by several vendors like Lite-On, Omni-Vision and etc. At the same smartphone you can find one of them. Depends of logistics, stock availability and other reasons. Most sensors inside these modules are made by Sony (IMX XXX). I've seen a lot of internal docs of Huawei camera modules and I can say that there are nothing inside from Leica there. Even lens made by LARGAN or other oem vendor. You can see part-list for Huawei P10 camera Powered by Leica)))

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Google Camera Mod for P20 Pro

Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
isko01 said:
Dear @Arnova8G2 & @miniuser123,
I had S8 and you do fantastic job porting Pixel Xl 2 camera to all SD845 phones. And some other make port for LGV30 dual camera - rear camera and second wide angle camera.
Please make Pixel Xl 2 camera port for Huawei P20 Pro for 40MP, 10MP and camera zoom 3x, 5x.
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It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
mudnightoil said:
It makes absolutely no sense to do 40MP. It's the inferior mode, and processing overhead would be insane for HDR, even with full optimisation (which you'll never see on a port). It wouldn't work.
Only 10MP makes sense.
5x is a hybrid zoom. You'd need the Huawei software. Google Camera currently has no such functionality. Not that it supports any optical zoom (3x) by default either.
You can perhaps hope for 10MP with working HDR+ and front camera. Anything else? I'd say it's completely unrealistic / unnecessary.
After the software updates, the only thing I'd really see Google Camera as being useful for is the front camera and / or for AOSP when that becomes stable on the P20 Pro. But by then, a working port of Huawei Camera on the P20/Pro is quite likely - or at least more likely, and certainly more desirable than a Google Camera port.
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Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
Spacemanglam said:
Hello @Arnova8G2,
I saw your work with the Google Camera Mod for various phones and I just want to say impressive work! I am using the Huawei P20 Pro and absolutely hates the Front Camera functionality. Tried to download your file to use on my phone but was unable to do so. When I try downloading it is says there as a problem parsing the package. Do you by any chance know if it would work with the P20 Pro? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thank you very much in advance.
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Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
Archer Casio said:
Yes! Finally someone who has the same struggle as I have!
P20 pro is a pretty expensive phone and I am beginning to feel disappointed with the less than stellar quality of its front camera.
I know that its a fixed focus lens on the front but how come Gogle Pixel was able to implement a sharp shooter front camera with a fixed focus? To think that it has 24 Megapixels?!?! Such a scam
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I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
mudnightoil said:
I don't think you understand what scam means.
Also, whilst not ideal, I suggest you learn how to work with fixed focus. You will not get bad results with it if you do, now that 'beauty' is in check.
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Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Archer Casio said:
Hi @mudnightoil,
sorry for the rather strong term that I used. But yes, I have been trying to learn some workarounds with a fixed focus front camera. It's just that, it's difficult to adjust because I was just so used to autofocus front cameras like Asus Selfie. I just feel like the 24 megapixel camera of the p20 pro is a wasted potential.
Another argument that I have is with Google Pixel's 8 mp fixed focus lens producing more vivid and sharper selfies than P20 pro's 24 mp.
Both the background and the foreground are sharp. Dynamic range is better! I mean come on! I really hope it could be fixed via software update very soon!
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Update:
Other than the shortcomings of the front camera, I have no other complaints with the P20 pro.
Spacemanglam said:
Yes, I am just hoping for the Front Camera to have the same Portrait Mode as the Google Camera as the Beauty Mode post-processing is through the roof even with it turned to zero. I am just hoping to use the Front Camera I have on the P20 to achieve the same Portrait result as I did from the Pixel 2 XL. Everything else about the P20 camera I can live with. Thank you.
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Same issue here ...the rear cameras are great ..but the front camera beautification is just too agressive even when set to zero . A google camera mod with HDR+ in just 10mp for rear camera and portrait enabled on both the front and rear will be really helpful .
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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Yeah I saw that too, and curious what's changed in that. I assume that you need to be rooted to flash that?
starbase64 said:
someone has any idea what's changed on this camera mod?
http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=898279&view=findpost&p=72790522
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/61dj4t0ca716v7a/P20ProCamera-Magisk15+.zip?dl=1
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That's not a GCam port, that's to install the P20 Pro Camera software on a non-pro P20.
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
I am very interested in development. Maybe it's possible.
dladz said:
So far as I'm aware you'll need the libs to get it to work properly.
Tbh the pro has a monster camera set up.
The 40mp is more for landscape pics, the 10 for point and shoot.
the selfie cam has been great for me so far.
But then I've only had it since 11am 24th may so I'm sure I'll find some issues.
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I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
sarichter said:
I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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Lovely, perhaps the lineage ROM in the development section may be able to use it?
sarichter said:
I've tested the 40MP on everything... it's fantastic. The detail I get out of each picture is a huge step up even from my old DSLR. Granted, I did not have an expensive lens, but the processing power on this phone easily surpasses that camera!
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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saturnspike said:
The rear cameras are great and on average they take better pictures than my Pixel 2. I also end up with pictures that I just otherwise would never have been able to capture with another cameraphone. There are some downsides though where I would love to use a hypothetical GCam port. Outdoor photography is a chore thanks to the auto "greenery" AI thing that cranks the saturation. The 10 MP auto mode also oversharpens like crazy. Pro mode is sometimes useful, but you lose things like HDR or aperture simulation which are lame tradeoffs.
The biggest issue for me though is the front camera, which is completely unusable thanks to the beauty mode that can't actually be fully disabled. I'm using Retrica right now which works pretty well but you lose the nice aperture/bokeh simulation of the P20 camera app. Small price to pay for a human looking face, but anyway that's mainly why I'm hoping for a GCam port.
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I also agree for the front camera pics quality
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very unusual on fw 120 and previous
we get best results with 10mpx AI OFF
what do you set when you shot 40mpx?
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The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
mudnightoil said:
The 10MP mode is superior in almost any setting. Hence why it's the default mode. That the 40MP mode is even exposed is mainly for marketing reasons.
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That's not the case at all from my experience comparing 10 vs 40 vs 3x zoom in various situations.
In low light, 40mp is poor, but in well lit places, 40mp is far more detailed, less over-sharpened, and significantly nicer overall.
It's generally less processed, and HDR etc doesn't seem to be enabled on it, but it's certainly not inferior to 10mp in general, but is occasionally.
If you want to do any post processing, the 40mp is probably better in general... though I guess few would want to do this!

Camera Apps with Manual mode and RAW capture for the ultra wide and tele lenses?

Hi,
Are there any camera apps with manual mode and RAW capture for the ultra wide and tele lenses? I don't mind having to use a separate app for each
joelxda said:
Hi,
Are there any camera apps with manual mode and RAW capture for the ultra wide and tele lenses? I don't mind having to use a separate app for each
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The S10 can be RAW and has a Pro mode (manual). Are you unsatisfied as an ultra-wide 13-millimeter camera?
bininga59 said:
The S10 can be RAW and has a Pro mode (manual). Are you unsatisfied as an ultra-wide 13-millimeter camera?
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From what I understand the pro mode only works with the primary lense...I'm coming from the LG G6 and that has a pro mode that you can use with both the primary and wide angle lens and would like to be able to do the same with the S10
joelxda said:
Hi,
Are there any camera apps with manual mode and RAW capture for the ultra wide and tele lenses? I don't mind having to use a separate app for each
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Nope, none I've found, and the API for the ultra wide and tele lenses isn't open so unlikely to get any unless Samsung make a change in a future firmware update (unlikely I think - the S9 also has the same limitation and there's been no change).
If it really matters to you, consider the P30 or P30 Pro, which do have pro and dng support on all rear cameras. But I think the main RYYB sensor on those isn't ready for prime time and has colour skew issues even with the May software update, saying this as a previous owner, I get better photos from the s10 in auto with HEIC or JPG.
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Is there a way to change the default camera to the 12MP one?

Is it possible to use the low-light camera as the default one so 3rd parties like GCam can work with it?
Just use night view or manual but why you want to do that? More megapixel won't mean better camera just larger image
blazessdd said:
Just use night view or manual but why you want to do that? More megapixel won't mean better camera just larger image
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It actually means brighter photo in low light. The megapixel count might be higher, but it uses pixel binning to give 5 MP output, but a better low light image.
I think the reputed devs owning MI A2 here should develop some patches or modules to use second camera with GCam.
- Mi A1 has got it done with the telephoto lens
- One plus 5 got it with almost similar config as MI A2. Its secondary lens is low light, and uses same pixel binning like MI A2.
All we can do is hope that some dev researches a bit on this and gets this working on our device too. I'm very sure that its possible since GCam has made its way to triple lens switching already.

Getting the Mate 30 Pro APK into the P30 Pro?

I love the P30 Pro, my only frustrating is the slightly processed look (over sharpening) to photos in Auto mode, avoided if shooting in Pro mode with RAW on (the jpeg produced is directly from the RAW file so no heavy processing at all) but would be great if auto mode results were more natural... I see this quote from a review of the Mate 30 Pro "Although the phone has the same main camera sensor as the P30 series, Huawei did changes to the processing. The biggest change visible is the removal of a degrading sharpening filter, allowing the phone to actually take advantage of the pixel-sharp clarity that the sensor is able to capture. In daylight as well as in most low-light scenes, this allows the Mate 30 Pro to showcase amongst the best spatial resolution and detail retention of any phone currently on the market" any way to delete the P30 pro camera apk and install the Mate 30 apk??
Jostian said:
I love the P30 Pro, my only frustrating is the slightly processed look (over sharpening) to photos in Auto mode, avoided if shooting in Pro mode with RAW on (the jpeg produced is directly from the RAW file so no heavy processing at all) but would be great if auto mode results were more natural... I see this quote from a review of the Mate 30 Pro "Although the phone has the same main camera sensor as the P30 series, Huawei did changes to the processing. The biggest change visible is the removal of a degrading sharpening filter, allowing the phone to actually take advantage of the pixel-sharp clarity that the sensor is able to capture. In daylight as well as in most low-light scenes, this allows the Mate 30 Pro to showcase amongst the best spatial resolution and detail retention of any phone currently on the market" any way to delete the P30 pro camera apk and install the Mate 30 apk??
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Shortly NO, you can't. In order to have the same functions as Mate 30 Pro, you would need root acces in order to install a mooded apk (P30 Pro has Kirin 980, Mate 30 Pro has Kirin 990 which is slightly different) + the camera libs & rest of the camera xml files.
Only hope for the P30 Pro users is that Huawei will update camera processing and other algorithms in order to match the ones from Mate 30 Pro in the next 2-3 firmwares releases, but i have doubts about it, because Mate 30 Pro IS atm their NEW FLAGSHIP and as it seems, in March they will release P40 Pro, so don't think they will work on more camera tweaks/improvements after that release, judging how they've done in P20 Pro case, which gets only security patches and EMUI 10 update, scheduled to be pushed to devices sometime in March
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Many thanks for the insight and explanation, appreciated.
Jostian said:
Many thanks for the insight and explanation, appreciated.
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Glad i could be usefull and sry if it's not the answer you've expected, but on Huawei devices things are a lot more complicated than are on let's say Samsung, where you still can unlock bootloader, root device, flash customised deodexed firmwares, mod a ton of apps and so on...
On Huawei we have to use stock firmware with minor improvments using 3rd party apps, because the've stopped giving unlocking bootloader codes, so therefore no root/no devs to create custom firmwares or mood kernel/no help from OEM....
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Question GCAM

any one suggest me best gcam for oppo find x3 pro?
Imtiaz Abir said:
any one suggest me best gcam for oppo find x3 pro?
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Bump.
Does anyone use gcam on x3 pro and is it better than the stock? I can't shoot good photos at night with stock app.
For me stock camera work good in the major of conditions, Gcam shot better during the day in normal light conditions, the shadows are more detailed and all in general. You can try LMC Camera 8.4 for normal shots also without XML, for wide lens you can try BSG Camera with aweme package but have some issues in normal shot, will show a black space at the left of the photo, seem it can be solver finding right session id for back camera, but unfortunately I not find a right value for it.
Both gcam are on telegram, just search for it.

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