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Like the Subject title reads, can we start a list of all the known errors discovered in the Android Pie update, for the Mate 10 series phones?
:highfive:This will be a great thread to see if it is worth upgrading to Pie, for us still stuck on Oreo.
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
bla33 said:
I have found 2 issues so far
1. recents doesn't play well with 3rd party launchers(workaround is to disable emui launcher trough adb)
2. Navbar has delay for 1 sec after adapting to colour of opened apps when using 3rd party launcher
Had some few glitches like gps icon stayed turned on while nothing was using gps and gpu turbo floating icon stayed on after exiting game.
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Apparantly the new Gallery App is also not that great:
"The new photo gallery is a crap ,, whats the point of creating a new allbum called all photos ??
I miss the old one ,,,
And the worst thing is the new signal bars on the left with notifications !! What the heck is huawei thinking ?? We don't have a notch ,, this new emui is bs update"
As mentioned, Nova also buggy:
"So far, nova launcher is buggy, especially animations, and the previously working google cam port stopped working"
&
"Nova working fine here with the exception of recents and gestures. "
And also uses more RAM than on EMUI 8 / Oreo:
"EMUI 9 is soooo ram hungry. Dropping below a gig here from light use and everything is refreshing. "
Well dont know about ram. Its same for me as before
atm while doing nothing its sitting at 3gb just like in oreo.
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
dzmrdz said:
Only problem I have noticed is that's sometimes apps just went to recent by itself... usually when I'm typing - chatting. But it's overall fast to go back , sometimes it's annoying. For me ram management is ok, just like in oreo. Few graphic glitches here and there.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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lol. Yeah. I was wondering if it was just me miss clicking so didnt want to mention that
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No it's not just you
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ante0 said:
Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Maybe that's the reason, I hope that they will fix it soon :fingers-crossed:
I think in oreo there was like 1 second delay when pressing on screen and then trying to press navbar. it woudnt allow you to do that right away.
I'm getting the strong impression the Pie update, for the Mate 10 series, needs some more fine tuning. Maybe, with some updates it'll get better.
Let's get those bugs listed guys! :highfive:
Don't see a difference with the "super macro" mode in new camera software
MATE 10. The recent apps screen is ****, if you hit the one app that's halfway hidden on the side you just get dumped back to where you were without opening that app.
The camera app in my mate 10 eats up literally 600MB of RAM wtf? Also RAM usage in general is higher almost than EMUI 8 on the Mate 10, where I had 2.2GB free most of the timein 8.0, now the usual is 1.8GB, so that's 400MB more of RAM used for EMUI 9.
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Navbar is too sensitive. I usually hit Home now when I'm hitting Space.
And/or big thumbs.
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Yup, I also had this problem - it does bug me, typing a message and kept clicking home. I changed the nav bar to be hidden and use gestures now (swipe up for home, swipe left / right for back, swipe up and hold for task manager). This works for me!
Couple of other things I've noticed - takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
Ran a AnTuTu benchmark - previously it was around 200,000 - its now reporting about 160,000 but apart from the gmail delay (above) the phone still feels snappy! I then saw the performance setting (under battery) and switched this on to re-benchmark - got around 210,000 this time.
I've switched performance mode back off for now.
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takes a while to archive a gmail email in the notifications - there's a delay which wasn't there before.
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It should have been obvious I guess! When I switch the performance mode on clearing these notifications is much quicker - this is the only thing I have really noticed in terms of speed with / without performance mode in the first couple of days.
Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Anyone having problem installing microG for YouTube vanced?
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
No more force LTE Only option, although you have tweak it before the update using System Editor. Hmmm...
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Can you describe what is the problem?
So far it works good on my phone. I have installed MicroG first and then YouTube Vanced. There is additional Google entry in the accounts list for MicroG.
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Somehow the files from their site dont work.
I downloaded from alternative site and it worked w/o issues.
Judging by the numerous complaints of issues with the new A10 updates, it looks like OneUI with Android 10 is NOT ready to replace Android9, yet it's rolling out as OTA upgrades. I predict it won't be long before people regret this new update and want to roll back to A9. I have a U1 variant and haven't gotten a prompt to update yet. It seem like a good time to fire up adb and disable the packages that are responsible for updates.
Anybody love the new OneUI w/A10 they got on their N9 via OTA? What's good about it?
I haven't had any issues and know a few others that haven't as well, but we are a small amoint of people, so yeah.
I really don't feel a difference between Android 9 and 10 with the exception of how dark mode is implemented now. That's honestly it for me. Battery life for me on the Note 8 and 9 have always been meh, but so has every other phone for me with the small exception of the Xperia Z Ultra and LG Optimus something big. Whatever the big one was.
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I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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I went back to Android 9 a couple days ago. To me, and this is just my opinion, 10 feels like 9 to me. And the sad thing is Samsung considers this a major update so that means the 9 will not see anymore other then security patches.
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Google did state that Android 10 would be a significant improvement over Android Pie. Whether that is the case or not we have yet to be certain. But it is safe to say that Android Pie for the Note 9 will not be receiving any security patches now. As Samsung will only be releasing patches for Android 10 for the Note 9 from now on.
That is what I meant. 10 patches not Pie
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On 10 and loving it. Miss a few good lock options. Battery life has been great while gaming compared to 9. I read a lot of posts here and have not run across any issues yet.
This is what I am waiting for, more news of good or bad experiences with A10. I am very happy on A9 (I have U1 variant) and I dont want to click update yet because I like it how it is. I hate that they stop security patches tho. Dark mode means squat, I have themes that work for that. I also use good lock features alot. I guess I will keep postponing the update till I see more threads about it. The silence is weird, normally there are pages of complaints after a new version comes out.
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Iv been on 10 for awhile now, and i have noticed its a little sluggish. Flashed in odin, then i performed a factory reset and it is still sluggish. Hoping for an update soon
Yeah, comparing A10 to A9 (stock) is a different comparison than OneUI A10 to OneUI A9 (Samsung's) ... and that is because one of the major differences with stock Android is that A10 finally integrated dark mode.... But Samsung did that with OneUI on A9, sooo... I have OneUI with Android 9, everything is dark, it all looks good, and I like it. Also, nothing seems buggy.
It doesn't look like there is any reason at all to upgrade to OneUI w/A10, unless I like to take my chances and see if Samsung bugged up a rushed release.
I actually really, really, hate white apps. So if OneUI with A10 integrates dark mode into apps much better than it does with A9, then I would consider the upgrade, for Google apps like gmail, maps, docs, etc.
Good points from all. It's not that Android 10 is bad, it just doesnt seem much different then Android 9. For me the gestures were horrible. I'm sure peeps like them but just not for me.
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Android 10 OTA has been great for me - getting better battery life and everything smooth and fluid. No problems whatsoever, and I just did the upgrade OTA, no clean wipe or anything like that (thankfully). Did use Galaxy Labs App Optimiser and I do believe apps open noticeably faster afterwards.
P.S. Still using navigation gestures as I was on 9 and notice little difference.
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
Someone can tell me how is the volume on Android 10 compared to Android 9? Is it louder or similar?
gruuvin said:
How are the gestures in 10 different from 9?
I have no buttons on my screen. Bottom right corner swipe up goes back to previous screen. Bottom middle swipe up goes to home screen. Bottom left swipe up shows all running apps.
Is OneUI/A10 different than that?
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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
I am in San Francisco, with unlocked US Note 9, and have not received A10 update.
Has anyone on here in the bay area received it?
If needed, point me to another thread for this question.
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i think you are using 3rd party launchers? because the new full gestures can only be used on samaung one ui launcher
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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
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Stock full screen gestures (no buttons showing) in settings > display > navigation bar. This is built into OneUI/A9
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
I've had A10 for a few days now, and besides one small glitch (commas and periods are doubled when I press the icons, and sometimes the space doubles also using the space bar), I've had no issues with it.
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so you mean to say you dont have the new full screen gestures of android 10?
bdw your fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps?
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I mean to say that I am running stock A9/OneUI with fullscreen gestures built into the OS (not from a third-party app), and from what people are describing about the fullscreen gestures in A10/OneUI, they are not any different. And yes, my fullscreen really shows fullscreen apps--no software buttons.
Ive found that A10 and UI2, cannot handle gestures and fullscreen mode any where near as well as A9 UI1.
Ive tried A10 twice now and both times, from a full wipe, the fullscreen/immersive mode messes up the A10 gestures. Whereas A9 can run fullscreen (no buttons, no taskbar, full immersive for all apps) and use gestures without any issue, and with just one swipe.
You try using proper fullscreen/immersive on A10 with gestures, and it takes two swipes to do anything, and Edge Panel Apps just gets ruined, as you cannot swipe open any more. There must be some conflict in Fullscreen/Immersive mode.
I use bxactions to toggle Fullscreen/Immersive from the Bixby button.
Hello everybody.
I noticed there are some issues trying to use third party launchers such as NOVA or SmartLauncher.
Or, at least, that's what happens to me with the One UI 3.1.
I've been using NOVA since my first NEXUS and since then, moving to S7 up to the Note 10, even after choosing to be part of the Beta Testing Program, I've never had problems.
Now there are some laggy and crash issues. With both of the launchers aforementioned.
I don't know if this is due to the choice of using gestures instead on the buttons in the navigation bar (it doesn't look like, considering I tried to change) but it causes strange "movements" everytime I go back home: like the launcher restarts itself, if you know what I mean.
That never happened on my last device (the Note 10) with One UI 2.5: that's the reason why I'm seriously thinking it could be a problem of compatibility with the latest stock UI version.
Anybody with the same problem? Same issues? Or this "monster" behaves like it should?
Thank you
Best
IMPORTANT EDIT: I tried again and yes, it is gesture related. Deactivating the gesture navigation bar, everything went back to normal.
Yup, same issue. Flashes white after the next immediate touch action, blocking whatever that action was. Doesn't affect the stock launcher. I reported it to Samsung through their members app. Had to switch off of gesture navigation because of it. Dunno if the other gesture navigation is broken but I'm on buttons again.
I'm using good lock one hand operation + and FNG to compensate so left and right are still back. Swipe up is home and swipe up hold is recents.
Well the issue is with Google's gesture implementation. I am facing the issue with gestures too and contacted Nova launcher support and they have blamed google for it.
Its true, disabling gestures, everything works fine. I hope someone will find a solution to this.
I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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I used Microsoft launcher and it seems fine.
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Maybe it's only affecting launchers with the Google feed
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
I've been using Apex Launcher Classic for years without issue and icon packs to customize (Desaturate pack is current favorite)
Works just fine with UI 3.1
I don't use the Gesture mode
blackhawk said:
I'm running a 10+ on Pie. The native launcher is fast and very stable.
I played around with Nova and a few others including Hyperion launcher. The latter boot looped my stock 10+ twice, back to back.
2 factory resets latter I was fuming. That was the first app to ever boot loop any of my Androids in 6 years. The developer had nothing to say. REALLY? F$$$ that!
Launchers have a very real potential to cause a boot loop. Take any instability seriously; there should be none.
The stock launcher uses less battery.
Because of all the Samsung built in customization plus Galaxy Store plugins and the Good Lock family of apps, the stock launcher is better than even Nova. Easier to use and more stable.
I stopped wasting my time sampling launchers. My last reload was almost a year ago; it remains fast, very stable with low battery usage. It looks and runs great... what's not to like?
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
I distinctly remember there being similar issues with my s10+ at launch, so hopefully be fixed in the future
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I agree to an extent, but the current version on One Ui Home has a number of issues as well;
Freezing whenever you long press on the home screen, so you can't add widgets
Task changer keeps resetting
Why oh why won't they give us vertical scrolling in the apps menu
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The last point is true however the first two aren't for me. No issues with widgets or Task changer.
The white icon label lettering irritates me though but it's not not all the trouble comes with 3rd party launchers.
maxito71 said:
Hi.
I must say that you're right: latest UI version in very fast and stable. All the possibilities you can add with GOOD LOCK are definitely a serious improvement. There is a "missing" feature, though: those damn' icons.
I really don't understand why we must be forced to use those ugly ones on the Galaxy Store and why they decided not to allow us to change at least the shape (with the UI 3.1), as this is a stock functionality.
Let's see what will happen in the future.
Best
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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There are hundreds of icon packs for UI 1.0 on the Galaxy store.
Not so with the 3.0 version?
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Im using nova 7 on my ultra exynos , how do a activate google feed ?
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Download nova companion
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Sure. Full of crappy icons and comic-sans-like fonts... Not considering that those on the Galaxy Store only change the stock icons and a few more.
The reign of inconsistency.
Believe me, I would be happy just having the possibility to choose the shape, as every other manufacturer on the planet allows.
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Shape? Round, square... -far- less worse than Google or Apple designs
It's a pain sorting through them but there are good ones in there that most will like... for free.
If you're willing to take the performance and stability hit to have the "shape" well every rose has it's thorns.
2 back to back forced reloads taught me religion
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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With navigation gestures or buttons?
Beefheart said:
Been using Nova for years, and it works just as well on my Exynos S21 Ultra as it always has.
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Me too! No problems until now!
I have been using nova launcher on my s21 ultra, since i got the phone ( with no gestures, only buttons ).
And i thought i was having a nice experience.
A few days ago i messed up my phone, debloated the wrong apps and had to factory reset. Since i was going with a fresh install i decided to use OneUI + some goodlock modules.
Boy.. i was wrong about the nova experience. Now i know how fluid and responsive the phone is supposed to be.
Anyway, apart from that, this is the official info from NOVA:
Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include:
• Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
• Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
• Animations not being as fluid as expected
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
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Install Hexed from the Play Store. Personalize a theme and in preferences check Navigation Bar Height and set it to 0. In regular Android settings make sure it's set to use the NavBar buttons and not the gestures. Install any third party gestures app that you like. Set up your third party gestures app then restart the phone. Then you'll have fully working third party gestures and everything will work like it used to. This is the only way I have found that fully fixes the gesture issues.
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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It is hard to believe that miui is having these many issues/bugs...only custom ROMs can save.
varungupta3009 said:
Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
crazyguyrohan said:
I'm also having almost all problems you mentioned.
Redmi note 10 pro (sweetin)
MIUI global 12.0.6.0 stable
Bootloader locked
MIUI have sooo many bugs. I will wait for 12.0.8 update. If bugs are fixed I will wait further for 12.5 update, else will install custom rom and will say final goodbye to MIUI
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I'm on sweetinpro 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0 on Stock with locked Bootloader. It's so frustrating that they haven't fixed trivial issues in the ROM and removed fundamental features.
I'm not having any of the mentioned issues here on my redmi note 10 pro 6/128GB sweetpro, bootloader locked. I disabled MIUI optimization right of the bat, and debloated all the xiaomi crap with this tool . I was running the latest MIUI global 12.0.10 and just updated today to MIUI 12.0.13 RKFEUXM. Still no issues. Also my battery is pretty fine, more than a day and I am heavy user (and gamer)
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
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Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
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This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
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Mine works fine.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
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After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
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Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
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Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
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You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
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Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
TotallyNotAPigeon said:
Regarding some of the issues (I have Redmi Note 10 Pro with global MIUI 12.0.10):
Touch responsivenes does behave strange and fails sometimes. I haven't noticed any stuttering though, the 730G works pretty well for me.
This is very annoying and definitly needs to get fixed asap. Some notificaciones are really messed up, like chat notifications that pop up showing a different person (wrong profile and name, happens on whatsapp and Telegram).
Mine works fine.
After a full day I still have 50% battery, so no problem on mine.
Just tested and it worked with 1 tap.
Unfortunately I bet Xiaomi did this on purpose to keep Always On Display away from the low-mid end phones, just like the Mi 10 Lite 5G.
You mean the NFC icon in control center? I mine was just not enabled. It can be enabled with the "edit" function on the control center.
Mine do pop up. Try disabling MIUI optimization for these apps, it's what I did.
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Turns out, all the problems I've mentioned are specifically with the Indian version of the Global ROM. We're at 12.0.6.0/12.0.8.0, and they've also removed the option to "disable MIUI Optimazations" from the developer menu. It now requires specifically resetting developer options.
You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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You are correct about disabling MIUI optimization. My advice is don't touch it at all, not even once. I always find that down the road weird things will happen to my phone. Perhaps some problems that you are having, were the result of disabling it, even though you've turned it back on now. If it was me, I'd go for a factory data reset and see what happens.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
Almost all the issues that OP stated in his post are true, it also happens to my unit which is the Indonesian unit with MIUI 12.0.4.0.
The most annoying one is the WA & Telegram notification issue, not only they messed up in order but the Action button is also misaligned. Seems like Xiaomi's dev team is not aware of this issue at all. Pretty unprofessional, however, this is what we deserved by buying a Xiaomi phone.
Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
Ratti1999 said:
You can turn it on after installing ytvanced. Everything is working as it should except vanced pip which I cant seem to activate in gesture navigation
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Yepp, I installed Vanced and enabled MIUI optimization ( I needed of for files uploading). Vanced is working great. I am using navigation buttons as I am not huge fan of gestures.
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Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Yup I know... that's why it's a bummer.
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For YTVanced, just go to the old versions page in the download site of vancedapp.com.
Then manually download the microg for "14.21.54 and above" and install it. MIUI will allow this version to be installed. Then I downloaded YTVanced 14.21.54 and installed and using it.
The only reason I wanted to turn off MIUI optimizations is to install YTVanced, but since this method works, I don't mind anymore.
I know MIUI "optimizations" is a real PITA, but so far there seems to be workarounds for some of the shortcomings.
Once official stable custom roms are available, I'll flash to these. Right now there are 3 custom roms available, but these are newly released. Need to wait and see if others have problems or not. Once the roms are matured enough, then will be worth to migrate.
P.S. - Using Sweet Global 8/128.
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Due to all of these issues which I'm not confident will be solved in a timely manner by their dev team, I already made a post in my local adboard to sell my 1 week old RN 10 Pro and I will just buy the Samsung device again.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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No need to take drastic measures.
Xiaomi is actually rooter-friendly. They allow official bootloader-unlocking, although the process takes long.
Their phones, especially the Redmi Note series are some of the best value phones you can ever find.
This is more true with this Note 10 Pro. I mean it's using Amoled and 120Hz screen with 8GB RAM and 128GB ROM wirh NFC, 3.5" jack, IR, FM radio and a huge battery. Even other more expensive flagships don't have all at one place. And the combination of features are only available in higher end flagships of other phones which cost so much more.
And let's not forget Samsung's notorious Knox counter. Even wirh Magisk Hide, some bank apps look for this counter and you can't use a rooted phone with bank apps and some other telco-apps. They look for this Knox-counter trips.
Xiaomi community is very active. There are already 3 custom roms available for Sweet. And there will be many to come. So you can already try these new roms and get rid of MIUI "optimizations" completely.
For me, i am waiting for the roms to get ironed out from it's new beginnings and let them mature with any fixes before I change my ROM. Need to make sure everything works properly before jumping ship.
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By the time I make that post a few weeks ago, my Sweet has been sold in only 1 hour since the ad went online. Currently, I'm back with the Samsung bandwagon (I bought the brand new A52 LTE) and really really happy with it With this great midrange, I did not miss anything from my previous Samsung phone, the S10.
I agree with you, Xiaomi makes good phones with unbeatable hardware specs to performance ratio, but this is the software that we will interact every day with, not the underlying hardware.
Gone are the days I spent countless hours trying every custom ROM available in our beloved XDA forums, now I just want the phone that just works without any major or annoying issue.
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Even though disabling MIUI Optimizations allows you to have a true always on display and brings back the good old native android share menu (with Copy to Clipboard and Nearby Share), it breaks the ROM in many other places:
You cannot open files on any app (File Manager, WhatsApp, Google Drive, etc.) No PDFs or other files will open.
All permissions will be reset.
Touch gestures like 3-finger screenshot will stop working.
Battery will drain extremely fast. (Even faster than it is already draining)
UI will start stuttering more than usual.
I suggest waiting for OTAs until Xiaomi fixes all of the numerous issues with this ROM. I've also compiled a list of all the issues I'm currently facing:
1. Extreme stuttering and exceptionally low touch responsiveness. 60Hz mode is even more unusable. It stutters like a 2010 phone.
2. Notification UI messed up: Actions not aligned properly, Facebook notifications not showing up properly, and don't show up at all. Android 11's 3-way split that gave conversations priority is completely removed!
3. Text Selection Menu (Context Menu) Hijacking: Critical context menu options don't show up in the hijacked menu! I can't format text in telegram without the context menu!
4. Share Menu Hijacking: Does not have the Copy to Clipboard or Nearby Share options, making it effectively useless. Need to swipe about 100 times to get to the app I want.
5. Disabling MIUI Optimizations fixes [4], but then we can't open any files in the OS! PDFs, Excel Sheets, nothing open! (Permission Denied).
6. Control Center Home features not working: crashes on click, hold.
7. Battery Drain issue: The 2-day battery effectively lasts half a day. Again: tested with 60Hz and all "recommended battery fixes".
8. Settings button in Control Center requires double tap. A single tap never opens it.
9. Always-On UI not actually "Always On." Again, disabling MIUI Optimizations just makes the phone unusable.
10. Proximity sensor just doesn't work. I think it uses heuristics based on mobile orientation and top-speaker ultrasound, but yeah, that definitely needs to be fixed.
11. Missing NFC toggle. Not sure how to even enable it.
12. Magnetometer incorrect readings: it sometimes works, sometimes doesn't. Probably a software issue.
13. Gestures don't work at all in third party launchers and literally make the phone impossible to control without the three nav buttons, which is scary.
14. Auto-rotate doesn't work as expected: Even after rotating the phone, it needs an extra wiggle and a tilt forward to activate it.
15. Notifications just don't pop-up! WhatsApp Web can't connect to WA unless it is running in the background. Facebook notifications don't pop up until the app is opened. MIUI just disabled all background apps in an effort to better manage the RAM and Battery, but as we clearly see, it doesn't work.
16. Google Discover on MIUI Launcher glitches out of bounds.
17. Add a white border instead of black border when the front camera is in use. The black border is hardly noticeable when the front camera is being used.
This list is still pretty incomplete, but I hope they start working on at least these first.
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I wanna install third party apk it's safe from disable miui optimization and re enable it (just disable for install the apk)
dumbl3 said:
Yeah but if you want to use third party apps like YTVanced or Aurora Store for example disabling MIUI optimization is the only solution
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Please how can I disable MIUI optimization? I'm using Redmi note 10 pro 128/8
YTVanced is working with activated optimization on my Redmi Note 10pro SKFEUXM13.0.15.0
Bootloader locked, not rooted.
I downloaded 31.1010.0411.132 firmware from official website on which includes October security patch.
but now the firmware is not showing anymore on list.
did asus pull back that firmware?
I just received it OTA.
DerSteppo said:
I just received it OTA.
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Me too, seems to work just fine.
The latest firmware is 138 and can be downloaded from ASUS site.
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A new compact powerful choice: Flagship 5G processor · 120Hz AMOLED display · 4000mAh battery · Pro-grade dual rear and front camera · IP68 water resistant
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Since I've opted in for A13 beta, I just got 33.0210.0210.100 a few minutes ago.
This is my first device running Android 13, so I don't have too much personal experience about it, but so far so good!
5tormChild said:
Since I've opted in for A13 beta, I just got 33.0210.0210.100 a few minutes ago.
This is my first device running Android 13, so I don't have too much personal experience about it, but so far so good!
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I tried to sign up since I received the recent update, but servers where down since. I will try again later.
5tormChild said:
Since I've opted in for A13 beta, I just got 33.0210.0210.100 a few minutes ago.
This is my first device running Android 13, so I don't have too much personal experience about it, but so far so good!
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How long do you wait? from you sign up to become beta tester until you get android 13 beta ota update?
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How long do you wait? from you sign up to become beta tester until you get android 13 beta ota update?
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I've applied a few months ago, so I got a notification about a week before that A13 beta will be available soon, so I can upgrade my ZF8 to it.
Everything's fine, but I found a few bugs and/or issues:
- no matter what the brightness setting is, when the phone's screen awakes (with a double tap in my case), for a fraction of a second it's on full brightness, but then goes back to the set value,
- I had an issue with the touchscreen one time, but after a lock-unlock everything went back to normal,
- I had a custom system mode setting, which is now completely missing, only the 4 factory defaults are present (High performance, Dynamic, Durable and Ultra durable); I was able to set lower CPU / RAM speeds, but now these settings are gone,
- there's a power menu besides the settings gear when I pull down the notification bar, which is unnecessary IMO, it's right where the settings was.
Other than that I find it more usable than the A12, and the battery life seems to be a bit better in my case.
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I've applied a few months ago, so I got a notification about a week before that A13 beta will be available soon, so I can upgrade my ZF8 to it.
Everything's fine, but I found a few bugs and/or issues:
- no matter what the brightness setting is, when the phone's screen awakes (with a double tap in my case), for a fraction of a second it's on full brightness, but then goes back to the set value,
- I had an issue with the touchscreen one time, but after a lock-unlock everything went back to normal,
- I had a custom system mode setting, which is now completely missing, only the 4 factory defaults are present (High performance, Dynamic, Durable and Ultra durable); I was able to set lower CPU / RAM speeds, but now these settings are gone,
- there's a power menu besides the settings gear when I pull down the notification bar, which is unnecessary IMO, it's right where the settings was.
Other than that I find it more usable than the A12, and the battery life seems to be a bit better in my case.
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What about Monet? Is it integrated?
ibolito said:
What about Monet? Is it integrated?
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I'm using a plain black background because of the AMOLED screen (it consumes less power this way), but I'll check it for you.
Does it have a separate menu item in Settings? I haven't found anything related in Display.
Google’s dynamic color engine, codenamed monet, grabs a single source color from the user’s wallpaper and generates 5 tonal palettes that are each comprised of 13 tonal colors of various luminances. These 65 colors make up the R.color attributes that apps can use to dynamically adjust their themes.
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5tormChild said:
I'm using a plain black background because of the AMOLED screen (it consumes less power this way), but I'll check it for you.
Does it have a separate menu item in Settings? I haven't found anything related in Display.
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5tormChild said:
I'm using a plain black background because of the AMOLED screen (it consumes less power this way), but I'll check it for you.
Does it have a separate menu item in Settings? I haven't found anything related in Display.
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Monet is Android's theme engine that changes the color of the UI to match the wallpaper, if nothing changes when you apply a new wallpaper then sadly it might be not implemented with this update too.