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Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?
naga.nino said:
Hi, I love my Xperia T but there is one thing that bothers me. I noticed that every xperia T has that automatic screen dimming when viewing darker media on your screen. For example, when i turn on facebook app, before the actual app opens there is dark grey screen. During that sequence screen gets darker, and when white facebook page pops up you can actually see screen adjusting its brightness to higher "normal" level. That really bothers me especially when gaming. On dark sequences screen gets really dark, and than it takes second or two to adjust normal brightness when brighter sequences appear. You can actually see brightness going down when darker images are displayed, and then back up again when brighter images appear.
So I'm not talking about dimming when overheating or flickering (that second is fixed by jellybean update as I noticed), or etc. And before you ask me I if turned on autobrightness in display settings, it has nothing to do with that.
My question is, is there a way to turn this off because it is really annoying?
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Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?
thrize45220 said:
Have you unchecked adopt to lightning conditions already?
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Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.
naga.nino said:
Can you read my last sentence before question, please? It has apsolutely nothing to do with that. "Adopt to light conditions" means adopt to light conditions in your sourrounding, not in your screen light conditions.
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All i thought it differs to auto brightness thats why i ask it sir. Sorry for the question then
You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!
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You dont have to apologise. So, the problem is that when you watch darker images, or videos, or just any darker screen on your display, contrast and brightness goes down. And when you switch to brighter screen you can actually see, with your naked eye, brightnes going up. I see that Sony intentionally put that feature, but it is very, very stupid one. There is no point in making dark images even darker with even less contrast. I assume they wanted to achieve better black levels that way, or I don't know, but it is very stupid way of doing black levels more black. And, of course, there is no setting in settings menu tu turn this nonsense off, nice one Sony!
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This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.
This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine
thedisturbedone said:
This similar annoying ass feature is there in my Spectre laptop. This was supposed to be a battery saving feature and I haven't yet found a way to turn it off. Maybe it's also a way to get higher black levels.
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Dude, this is definitely not a battery saving mode. There is no need for batery saving mode when displaying dark screen, and the problem occurs when displaying dark images or any other dark media, app or non-app. every single time.
Mad Marty said:
This is the Bravia Engine. Just unselect Settings -> Display -> Mobile Bravia Engine
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OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.
Same problem is posted here: http://communities.sonyericsson.com/thread/61560?start=0&tstart=0 and Sony replied "I'm sorry that it has taken so long but I have done some testing now using a later software and I'm not able to replicate the issue that you guys report so I assume it's fixed." It is more than obvious that they like to close their eyes on every single problem that occurs. Thank you Sony for your gorgeous support to your beloved customers. I cant be more sarcastic, of course.
naga.nino said:
OMG... Mobile bravia engine has apsolutely nothing to do with with that, because bravia engine works only in phones stock apps for viewing videos and pictures, and the effect is not even similiar to screen dimming. It brings more saturated colors and that is all.
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Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.
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Well, have it your way. But with this kind of attitude, don't be surprised if no-one wants to help you.
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It's not my way, it's the way it is. If one understands what mobile bravia engine is, one could never offered it as a solution to a problem that has nothing to do with it. I'm terribly sorry if I ofended you, and I apologize for my attitude. I'm not mad at you, or anybody else here, I just don't see why would one write something just to be written. I know my T-Rex wery well, and I know there is no "normal" way to turn this dimming crap off, so I posted my question here, and expected that someone of the experts would offer some kind of solution to that. And I got things like "turn automatic brightness off", or "turn mobile bravia engine off" even though I previously mentioned that i tried all that stuff. People are "trying" to "help" me here, and they didn't even read what I've written. I'm really not one of guys that would post a question here just to be posted, I searched the crap out of the internet, and I found apsolutely nothing helpfull. That's why I decided to open this thread, to hear what experts have to say.
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There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.
naga.nino said:
Thank you very much. I suppose you're talking about this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909710&page=16
My phone is rooted and I can't change those values. Can you explain me how to change this? I went to that system location via root explorer, but i can't do much from that point. If I try to open it in text editor it says that this is read only and can't be changed.
Thanx in advance.
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If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor
peetr_ said:
There is already a thread about this. I won't write it again.
Just turn of DLS.
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If you are rooted, you need root explorer and mount the directoty as RW, then open in text editor
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Thank you guys very much! Changed values, and rebooting my phone...everything is fine now, no more stupid dimming. However...I noticed that color adjusment is still visible when changing from dark screen to colorfull bright one. So the dimming is now definitely gone, but that color adjusment is still visible, like it changes contrast a bit, from worse to better, it is clearly visible. Any ideas about that?
I'm uploading a video I recorded with my webcam to get you a closer look. I'll post a link once it's uploaded.
Video will be live here in a couple of minutes: http://youtu.be/fHozO8zGZ1Y
After I managed to turn off DLS, that auto-contrast thing still remains. If you look closely, you'll se that the blue facebook stripe (and everything else) slightly changes its color/contrast when returning from the gray screen. But DLS was much bigger pain in the ass and I'm very pleased with the result od turning it off.
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Why would you want to post it live?
Sent from your backyard...
Slender watches what you do...
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Why would you want to post it live?
Sent from your backyard...
Slender watches what you do...
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Didn't mean literally live lol. It is uploaded, processed and watchable now.
so this worked fine for the first few days- the bit where you get to tap on areas you want the focus to be on (and blur everything else)
usually the aperture circle appears and then you can slide up and down to adjust the f-stop to widen the area that gets blurred.
all of a sudden, the circle no longer sticks so I'm unable to adjust the aperture.
things I've tried but to no avail:
clearing Gallery app data
clearing camera app data
reboot
turn off and then turn on
anyone have this issue please feel free to chime in and find a solution together
Do you have this issue only in the aperture mode or also in the regular camera mode? Meaning do you get the brightness slider wenn tapping for focus in regular camera mode?
Working fine for me Btw.
clouds5 said:
Do you have this issue only in the aperture mode or also in the regular camera mode? Meaning do you get the brightness slider wenn tapping for focus in regular camera mode?
Working fine for me Btw.
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damit you're right... cam brightness slider as well! this sucks....
yellowchilli said:
damit you're right... cam brightness slider as well! this sucks....
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Hm can't find any setting that would affect that. There is a "restore default" button in the camera settings, have you tried that?
I guess the only other thing I can come up with at this time is a full factory reset
clouds5 said:
Hm can't find any setting that would affect that. There is a "restore default" button in the camera settings, have you tried that?
I guess the only other thing I can come up with at this time is a full factory reset
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hmm nah I've already deleted data for both cam and gallery apps.. that should work better than reset defaults. it's strange, as though both sliders are the same thing across both apps.
yellowchilli said:
so this worked fine for the first few days- the bit where you get to tap on areas you want the focus to be on (and blur everything else)
usually the aperture circle appears and then you can slide up and down to adjust the f-stop to widen the area that gets blurred.
all of a sudden, the circle no longer sticks so I'm unable to adjust the aperture.
things I've tried but to no avail:
clearing Gallery app data
clearing camera app data
reboot
turn off and then turn on
anyone have this issue please feel free to chime in and find a solution together
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OK so I worked backwards.. quite painfully.. on all the changes I made over the past few days and I worked out what was causing the issue.
It was a problem that I created for myself really.. but one that was totally unexpected and I'm sure is a bug.
I changed all UI animation to None in developer settings to get around quicker and it was the Window Animation that did it. changed it back to .5x and both the camera brightness slider as well as the aperture slider returned.
strange but true.
anyway, SOLVED.
Thanks for posting the solution. Haven't got my P9 yet but I usually turn off Window Animation as well. I can see how they are related but it really shouldn't affect the camera app functionality. Definitely a bug imo.
yellowchilli said:
OK so I worked backwards.. quite painfully.. on all the changes I made over the past few days and I worked out what was causing the issue.
It was a problem that I created for myself really.. but one that was totally unexpected and I'm sure is a bug.
I changed all UI animation to None in developer settings to get around quicker and it was the Window Animation that did it. changed it back to .5x and both the camera brightness slider as well as the aperture slider returned.
strange but true.
anyway, SOLVED.
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Hi man,
I tried to do it, but it doesn't work for me. I also had all the UI animations deactivated, and even though I turned them on individually, and simultaneously, nothing happened. The thing is that I do have aperture slider and the camera brightness one, but when i take the shot on wide aperture mode, and open the gallery the wide aperture icon doesn't appear.
Thanks anyway.
manug89 said:
Hi man,
I tried to do it, but it doesn't work for me. I also had all the UI animations deactivated, and even though I turned them on individually, and simultaneously, nothing happened. The thing is that I do have aperture slider and the camera brightness one, but when i take the shot on wide aperture mode, and open the gallery the wide aperture icon doesn't appear.
Thanks anyway.
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my p20 lite has the same prooblem as you mentioned , did u find any solution?
manug89 said:
Hi man,
I tried to do it, but it doesn't work for me. I also had all the UI animations deactivated, and even though I turned them on individually, and simultaneously, nothing happened. The thing is that I do have aperture slider and the camera brightness one, but when i take the shot on wide aperture mode, and open the gallery the wide aperture icon doesn't appear.
Thanks anyway.
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maybe try rebooting street changing the animation settings?
:/
yellowchilli said:
maybe try rebooting street changing the animation settings?
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What do you mean with "rebooting street", could you please explain me? Thanks in advance..
manug89 said:
What do you mean with "rebooting street", could you please explain me? Thanks in advance..
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sorry.. it was a typo from my phone. I meant reboot your phone after changing the animation settings. see if that helps
yellowchilli said:
sorry.. it was a typo from my phone. I meant reboot your phone after changing the animation settings. see if that helps
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I think my problem is not related with the animations and UI tweaks that we can turn off from the developer settings (because i have the sliders working properly). The thing is that... is like the WAM (wide aperture mode) is there on the camera, you can use it, but it really doesn't take any effect on the photo....like a preview mode...nothing else.... I know is weird. But if I go to the gallery, and open the photo that I supposelly took with the WAM, the little icon to change the value is not there. It is a normal photo.
Hey, guys. I dunno whether this is normal or not normal but my navigation bar has always been leaving a mark behind during its absence. Have a look at the navbar on the photo. Is it normal? And if it isn't, please tell me what I should do to remove it. Thank you.
Edit: the navbar marks doesn't come out on the photo. Sorry.
Gaburieru Pucho said:
Hey, guys. I dunno whether this is normal or not normal but my navigation bar has always been leaving a mark behind during its absence. Have a look at the navbar on the photo. Is it normal? And if it isn't, please tell me what I should do to remove it. Thank you.
Edit: the navbar marks doesn't come out on the photo. Sorry.
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Sounds to me like there's a screen burn-in, happened to me too.
And sadly, there's nothing you can do about that, since screen burn-in on amoled displays is permanent.
rumkugel13 said:
Sounds to me like there's a screen burn-in, happened to me too.
And sadly, there's nothing you can do about that, since screen burn-in on amoled displays is permanent.
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Oh that sucks, eh? Anyway thank you very much for letting me know. ?
Gaburieru Pucho said:
Hey, guys. I dunno whether this is normal or not normal but my navigation bar has always been leaving a mark behind during its absence. Have a look at the navbar on the photo. Is it normal? And if it isn't, please tell me what I should do to remove it. Thank you.
Edit: the navbar marks doesn't come out on the photo. Sorry.
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Sorry I'm late but this is a common burn-in problem. All Amoled have this problem, newer one less respect own old Amoled. It's permanent and the mark is prominent according use.
Lot of screen on time and high brightness make this marks more visible (and coming first) respect low usage and/or low brightness.
It's probably you have burn-in on notification panel too in you see an image in immersive mode.
From what has been doing the rounds, it seems as if the issue is real, but so far nobody has proved that it exists, with side by side comparisons showing different wallpapers or by playing videos.
Passing up on this phone would be quite unfortunate as there really is no true alternative to the Nokia 6.1 Plus, with bootloader unlocked, of course.
It'd be great if anyone could show how exactly the bottom area looks, on loading up different kinds of contents :fingers-crossed:
archicorn27 said:
From what has been doing the rounds, it seems as if the issue is real, but so far nobody has proved that it exists, with side by side comparisons showing different wallpapers or by playing videos.
Passing up on this phone would be quite unfortunate as there really is no true alternative to the Nokia 6.1 Plus, with bootloader unlocked, of course.
It'd be great if anyone could show how exactly the bottom area looks, on loading up different kinds of contents :fingers-crossed:
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There is not light bleed. The light bleed that seems like is the navbar gradient on android oreo. I am a moto one power user and I assure you. There is no light bleed even at max brightness!
Some youtubers
Some youtubers done lcd test and we can see screen bleeding issue. On a plain black or grey background screen bleeding issue can be seen.
please, Prove it.
I tried, and i am confused
gagan_ahuja11 said:
please, Prove it.
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I got my phone 2 days back and the first thing i noticed was brightness on the bottom part of the phone (bottom part of navbar) was more than rest of the area.
I tried with 3 apps "Quora" "Whatsapp" and "Curiosity".
When i launched Quora, Navbar gradient was observed and it looks like backlight bleeding.
But when i launch Whatsapp or Curiosity, the navbar gradient disappears even at max brightness.
So i think this is not backlight bleeding, but i can't verify this with other apps, or even while watching videos on full screen.
this is definitely confusing. we need more data.
Bleeding
Backlight bleeding only visible on some background Colors. Is there anyone on Xda that can prove it that it is or it is not bleeding
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Backlight bleeding only visible on some background Colors. Is there anyone on Xda that can prove it that it is or it is not bleeding
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What is there to "prove" ?
Take it from users who use the device daily. And coming to the YouTube reviews, aren't the review devices pre production? How good is the hardware there? The navbar gradient is implemented in a weird way by motorola which makes it feel like the light bleed in most of the apps. But I can assure you that its not there. I have tested extensively and you need to physically see it to understand the difference. You cannot visualise it over photos on the internet.
I mean if you people can remove that gradient and show us
gagan_ahuja11 said:
I mean if you people can remove that gradient and show us
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I don't think so..
Moto One does not have any such UI customization.
motoFann said:
I don't think so..
Moto One does not have any such UI customization.
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You mean...backlight bleeding is really there on #MotoOnePower
gagan_ahuja11 said:
You mean...backlight bleeding is really there on #MotoOnePower
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No, what i meant was..... Moto does not give any UI option to user to disable Navbar gradient.
It's either system controlled or app controlled, i am not sure.
And like i said earlier, its not visible in all apps. so does not look like backlight bleeding.
Screen Bleeding Issue Solved.
For those who are wondering about the Screen Bleeding issue with the #MotorolaOnePower Let me clear out this for you, Yes, screen bleeding issue is present and it is ARTIFICIAL. (I don't know why but it is) And can easily be fixed via software updates.
How to disable it?
Install "Navbar Apps" from play store and make the navigation bar colour to solid white/black to overcome those ARTIFICIAL SCREEN BLEEDING issue or wait for the #Android9Pie Which probably will fix this issue.
Hope it helps.
ChandRath said:
For those who are wondering about the Screen Bleeding issue with the #MotorolaOnePower Let me clear out this for you, Yes, screen bleeding issue is present and it is ARTIFICIAL. (I don't know why but it is) And can easily be fixed via software updates.
How to disable it?
Install "Navbar Apps" from play store and make the navigation bar colour to solid white/black to overcome those ARTIFICIAL SCREEN BLEEDING issue or wait for the #Android9Pie Which probably will fix this issue.
Hope it helps.
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What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
gagan_ahuja11 said:
What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
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Here is a screenshot
F.A.I.S.A.L said:
Here is a screenshot
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Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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post both image one screenshot and one photo clicked from another device of same screen EXCEPT HOME SCREEN
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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It's the same as we can see in screenshot and yes I never believed that it's an light bleed issue...!!
As I have tested the same with some display tester app but I don't see any light bleed issue with higher brightness whatsoever...!! So it's a intended UI effect and not an issue...!!
gagan_ahuja11 said:
Can you tell the problem area you can see on your phone is same as in the screenshot you see on other device?
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post both image one screenshot and one photo clicked from another device of same screen EXCEPT HOME SCREEN
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Here is another image..!! Camera quality aren't that great but I don't have any other device with me...!!
F.A.I.S.A.L said:
It's the same as we can see in screenshot and yes I never believed that it's an light bleed issue...!!
As I have tested the same with some display tester app but I don't see any light bleed issue with higher brightness whatsoever...!! So it's a intended UI effect and not an issue...!!
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actually I asked for any other screen except the home screen...yes, the home screen has gradient...But try to send both of some other screen not of the home screen.
No light bleed.. Confirmed !!!
https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/motorola-one-motorola-one-power/Backlight-Bleeding/m-p/4240558
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What I think to test it. If this is software based gradient or artificial then screenshot can capture it. If screenshot can't capture that gradient it means it is screen bleeding. Can anyone test it and upload screenshotss?
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The gradient is an overlay applied on the screen. It is similiar to the Night Light feature, when you capture screenshots with Night Light on, you don't see it in the screenshot.
Hope that helped clear confusions!
In the leaked videos, the user was able to show the homescreen with icons on the rear display. Was that any early MIUI version option only?
In the current firmware, it's not possible... Laybe later?
Anyway, I don't see myself using an app on it, it's really small for that, + it'd require UI changes from the devs...
furious.builder said:
In the current firmware, it's not possible... Laybe later?
Anyway, I don't see myself using an app on it, it's really small for that, + it'd require UI changes from the devs...
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I would like to use it to answer with speaker or decline calls. Also use it for quick responses to text.
I have noticed I can skip songs on the Spotify playlist when it's playing by accidentally touching the rear display
( I haven't found anything useful to do with it yet tbh and I hope they improve the functionality of it )
Ohh nice! As of now it's pretty early, I'm sure they'll add those little things during updates
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In the leaked videos, the user was able to show the homescreen with icons on the rear display. Was that any early MIUI version option only?
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I haven't found any way to enable that home screen in rear panel but I haven't been trying either tbh
I don't think I'm getting the red notification light on the rear display either like it shows in the Xiaomi presentation vids but maybe I just need to enable it somehow
I usually don't set my phone's with the screen facing downwards on tables anyway so it's got limited usefulness to me anyway whether it works or not
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I haven't found any way to enable that home screen in rear panel but I haven't been trying either tbh
I don't think I'm getting the red notification light on the rear display either like it shows in the Xiaomi presentation vids but maybe I just need to enable it somehow
I usually don't set my phone's with the screen facing downwards on tables anyway so it's got limited usefulness to me anyway whether it works or not
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The latest update to the 'Rear Display' app breaks the red notification indicator as far as I can tell.
But to enable it/change appearance
go to settings>special features>rear display.
dj_aj said:
The latest update to the 'Rear Display' app breaks the red notification indicator as far as I can tell.
But to enable it/change appearance
go to settings>special features>rear display.
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I'm on the EU 12.5.3 and I like it but I think I have no red light flashing on the back screen for notifications although it is enabled in the settings...
One of the issues is the rear screen can only stay on for 30 seconds max which maybe why people think the notification is not working properly ( because you would have to double tap to see it even if it is working properly)
And who likes to set their phone face down anyway? These screens are fragile and very expensive !
Honestly think they just had a screenshot of their home screen and made it the image I never actually seen anyone able to use the mini screen
Yeah they haven't ironed the kinks out pertaining to the rear display.
Out of the box, I had the red led indicator show up although it would be there even when I had no notifications.
I like it as a novelty feature but they really need to address the functionality bit.