Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
ShiroEd said:
Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
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Can't comment first hand but that evaluation would seem to disagree with almost all the reviews.
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I am one of those users who would never mind to have no front camera, but then I realize couple times a month I use hangouts video with a friend, so for me it makes no difference what sensor is there, I would be fine with crappy 720p camera, but I tested couple selfie shots when I got my p30p, and I find it quite the opposite - very sharp, detailed, maybe a bit brighter than I would expect but not soft. For me a soft photo is a photo that lacks sharpness, this is not definitely not the case. And when I turn off the "beautify" sliders it really turns them off, this was the single worst thing on Samsung phones since S6. No matter what, selfie photos taken with samsung camera app always came out horrible for me, had to use 3rd party apps.
If you don't like the output out of huawei camera app try something else, everybody has different demands and expectations. Sensor-wise the front camera seems to be very good, and app wise the huawei camera app is very decent in my opinion.
Have you got firmware 124 yet? I am on 113, but I know that 124 is rolling out and has tons of fixes, which includes the camera. I have another P30 PRo arriving Tuesday, and that will have 124 out of the box. There is absolutely no point noting any bugs until on 124.
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Have you got firmware 124 yet? I am on 113, but I know that 124 is rolling out and has tons of fixes, which includes the camera. I have another P30 PRo arriving Tuesday, and that will have 124 out of the box. There is absolutely no point noting any bugs until on 124.
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Ok. Good to know. Might try and force the update with HiSuite.
Thanks.
Hello,
i'm on the newest FW .124 but still, the quality of the selfie camera is pretty terrible. Also the back cameras comparing to my P20 Pro are super soft. Don't know if it's software or hardware issue.
This is quite worrying.
I'm unsure what to expect now. Many reviews say categorically that it's better than P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro but a few of us are seeing something different.
lelenc said:
Hello,
i'm on the newest FW .124 but still, the quality of the selfie camera is pretty terrible. Also the back cameras comparing to my P20 Pro are super soft. Don't know if it's software or hardware issue.
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I have 124 update and I think the front camera quality is amazing. I took many selfies and video samples today and zoomed in and the clarity and detail is impressive. Remember there is no auto focus so the sweet spot for crisp shots is 50-60cm which is literally arms length.
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This is quite worrying.
I'm unsure what to expect now. Many reviews say categorically that it's better than P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro but a few of us are seeing something different.
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Maybe it's just your specific device??
I'd say, the quality of the front (and not only the front) camera is quite random.
Well in my case the front camera quality is amazing way too detailed can point out all the random grey hair popping off my skull
The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
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The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
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In my opinion all the actual cameras are ok but its the terrible over processed end results from the software that we cant change that is the BIG problem with the P30 pro.
The only way to get a decent and natural non over processed image from the P30 pro is to shoot Raw(DNG) but for me if i want to mess around with raw I will use my camera.. NOT a phone.
I'm actually finding the front camera to be a lot better than my s10plus which I sealed from. I was pleased to discover.
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The selfie camera for me definitely looks better than my s10 plus.
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Defo agree... I swapped for cameras. I am missing the screen and the speakers of the s10plus though..
Agreed, the Front Facing Camera is not good enough... Pixel 2 do it better.. in details and more...
ShiroEd said:
Just got my P30 Pro today. Upgrading from a Mate 20 Pro.
The front facing camera is terrible. It's incredibly soft and it's impossible to change things for the better. I'm wondering if I've got a faulty unit as the photos from most review sites don't show blurry soft selfies.
Can anyone comment first hand on this?
Many thanks.
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Front camerA NO PROBLEME HERE!
I think there are 2 different problems at play here:
1: for the ppl saying its great for you -Congrats- you've done well to upgrade to the P30 Pro and it's relatively better front camera vs your old device.
2: The people complaining about blurry front camera are CORRECT, especially if you're coming from a P20 Pro or a Mate 20 Pro, objectively speaking - there is no comparison in general use, P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro will win almost every single shot.
Evidence: I have both the previous 20 series flagships (mentioned) - I noticed each shot on the P30's front cam was useless in comparison, blurry, very low resolved detail, with dark shadows under the eyes overly accentuated (whether you have dark circles or not, they will be over emphasised vs the 2 mentioned devices) which = the perfect recipe for an underwhelming shot every single time.
I went back twice to swap my P30 Pro for a new one at the store within the first 14 days.
Result = No change. Same level of Blur in your normal use case selfies.
The scientific analysis of the issue:
The problem is a fixed focus, which is no problem at all if the range is correct, but in this case it isn't.
- you can test it yourselves, hold your phone 1ft from your face and take a pic, then 1.5ft - 2 ft and so on, you will start to realise that the focus has been tuned to an arms length - a shot which 90% of the time you will not be taking - unless you WANT the world to see that you are taking a selfie.
Is there a benefit of this?
-Of course there is, this captures far better background detail when compared to other phones (P20 Pro & Mate 20 Pro in this case). However, this is a double edged sword, since 99% of the time in a selfie, you want the subject -yourself- to be prioritised over all else in this type of shot.
-It seems this tuning has been done to favour group selfie shots, since the distance required for a group shot is a full arms length - so this is most likely the reason for the prioritised focal range.
But make no mistake, anything closer than an arms length, the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and even the Iphone XS Max is far sharper(just tested during this writeup). For full arm length selfies shots, group selfies and background detail the P30 Pro is sharper (in the distance rather than on the subject).
So there you have it, objective, repeatable shots which you can try yourself.
Get at me with your comments. P.s. Let's not talk about software updates as I'm on 9.1.0.193 (4 months in from the release).
RoleX1 said:
I think there are 2 different problems at play here:
1: for the ppl saying its great for you -Congrats- you've done well to upgrade to the P30 Pro and it's relatively better front camera vs your old device.
2: The people complaining about blurry front camera are CORRECT, especially if you're coming from a P20 Pro or a Mate 20 Pro, objectively speaking - there is no comparison in general use, P20 Pro and Mate 20 Pro will win almost every single shot.
Evidence: I have both the previous 20 series flagships (mentioned) - I noticed each shot on the P30's front cam was useless in comparison, blurry, very low resolved detail, with dark shadows under the eyes overly accentuated (whether you have dark circles or not, they will be over emphasised vs the 2 mentioned devices) which = the perfect recipe for an underwhelming shot every single time.
I went back twice to swap my P30 Pro for a new one at the store within the first 14 days.
Result = No change. Same level of Blur in your normal use case selfies.
The scientific analysis of the issue:
The problem is a fixed focus, which is no problem at all if the range is correct, but in this case it isn't.
- you can test it yourselves, hold your phone 1ft from your face and take a pic, then 1.5ft - 2 ft and so on, you will start to realise that the focus has been tuned to an arms length - a shot which 90% of the time you will not be taking - unless you WANT the world to see that you are taking a selfie.
Is there a benefit of this?
-Of course there is, this captures far better background detail when compared to other phones (P20 Pro & Mate 20 Pro in this case). However, this is a double edged sword, since 99% of the time in a selfie, you want the subject -yourself- to be prioritised over all else in this type of shot.
-It seems this tuning has been done to favour group selfie shots, since the distance required for a group shot is a full arms length - so this is most likely the reason for the prioritised focal range.
But make no mistake, anything closer than an arms length, the P20 Pro, Mate 20 Pro, and even the Iphone XS Max is far sharper(just tested during this writeup). For full arm length selfies shots, group selfies and background detail the P30 Pro is sharper (in the distance rather than on the subject).
So there you have it, objective, repeatable shots which you can try yourself.
Get at me with your comments. P.s. Let's not talk about software updates as I'm on 9.1.0.193 (4 months in from the release).
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Came to the same conclusion months ago, arms length or nothing. Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it as I've probably took no more than 3 selfies since I've had the phone.
The front camera is pretty bad. Image wise you do need to hold the phone a certain distance to get a good image.
Those saying it's better than the s10 plus I have no idea how they can say that. Selfie camera is pretty much the only thing that Samsung smashes Huawei in.
The bigger issue I have is that it can take up to 5 seconds between pushing the shutter and the picture being taken.
Only happens with the selfie cam and it's because of software updates as this was never a problem on day one.
But yeah selfie cam on the p30 is weak. Very much so. It's up to you if the rest of the device makes up for it which for me it does
djingonthenet said:
Came to the same conclusion months ago, arms length or nothing. Not that I'm going to lose any sleep over it as I've probably took no more than 3 selfies since I've had the phone.
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Exactly, so in this respect the phone failed majorly - we now have a device that we won't use to capture ourselves, personal memories- something that's a crucial reason to buy a newer phone in the first place. (I'm still carrying and running a 20 series device for this reason). Hugely annoying.
rajziel said:
The front camera is pretty bad. Image wise you do need to hold the phone a certain distance to get a good image.
Those saying it's better than the s10 plus I have no idea how they can say that. Selfie camera is pretty much the only thing that Samsung smashes Huawei in.
The bigger issue I have is that it can take up to 5 seconds between pushing the shutter and the picture being taken.
Only happens with the selfie cam and it's because of software updates as this was never a problem on day one.
But yeah selfie cam on the p30 is weak. Very much so. It's up to you if the rest of the device makes up for it which for me it does
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Most of the time this delay is a sharpening and processing - this usually makes the photo far better so that's not a problem as such, but this delay still does very little for the front camera when compared to the previous 20 series devices.
All in all - the front camera doesn't deserve to be in the presence of the rest of the hardware - since overall the device is fool proof from all angles (hardware wise) and the front camera doesn't live up to this standard.
The minimum required (expected) competence of each component is that which objectively beats the previous generation product, and in this instance, 90% of the expected use of the front cam, this just isn't the case.
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Hello,
I came from Mate 20 Pro and now I own S10+ but I'm thinking to make a change and buy an P30 Pro. I want to know how is the camera and the display (can you see the pixels)? I don't use RAW format only normal shoots (day and night). The S10+ camera is a joke on the night shoots but on daylight is excelent.
alexxutzu said:
Hello,
I came from Mate 20 Pro and now I own S10+ but I'm thinking to make a change and buy an P30 Pro. I want to know how is the camera and the display (can you see the pixels)? I don't use RAW format only normal shoots (day and night). The S10+ camera is a joke on the night shoots but on daylight is excelent.
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Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
Just do it. I missed the screen first couple of days then got used to it ... Camera, battery life, super fast charging even using car charger made my life easier. Even video recording, there is no 60 4k but zooming and night mode on this thing makes it unbeatable
Thank you for reply. I wait for other impressions.
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Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
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I agree in most parts!
I don't think that worth change a S10+ for a P30 PRO, for me they are equivalents.
dannyqanaah said:
Camera is honestly a hit or miss. Some shots come out amazing... others look like they were taken on an android phone like 5 years ago. I am a professional photographer so I can pick up on many details quite well.
Have I ever used the 5x camera - nope, kinda gimmicky and only fun to show friends
Portrait mode has way too aggressive of a blurring with o k a y edge detection
Front facing camera is hit or miss with exposure and also more importantly focus and sharpness
Rear camera photos are a lot of time wayyy too sharp where it looks like you purposefully pumped the sharpness up in an editor.
Night time photography is amazing though, like actually really really amazing.
Camera is overall pretty meh though tbh
Display:
Nice colors, pretty accurate.
Pixel density is low, coming from a 2k device I will never choose a 1080p panel ever again.
Only thing keeping me on this phone is the battery life
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I feel the same way ... After mate 10 pro i swear to myself would be iPhone or pixel only , than my provider came with and offer the P30 Pro cheap...i got and lemme Tell you .. is a great peace of hardware but seems that chinese companies cant code ... And software is almost everything nowadays!
i agree with danny....EMUI and screen resolution are the main downsides. My previous phone was the Samsung Note 9. Low resolution makes the finer details look pixelated.
Zoom and bokeh are pretty nice and useful (for me since i can take pic of notes from the blackboard from far away). Battery life is amazing. If only the P30 Pro has OneUI and a QHD screen, this phone would be perfect.
Thanks guys! For me the resolution is not a peoblem even my s10+ stays on full hd resolution. Also I like the EMUI it's not a big deal for me . My concerns are the low pixel density of the screen and the camera on daylight.
I just moved to the P30 Pro from an iPhone 6
I looked at both in teh store, read reviews, watch reviews and they both seem to be as good as each other depending on what the situation is
I went with teh P30 just to be a bit differenet
Cameras on both S10+ and P30 Pro are excellent, but I think Night Mode on Huawei is superior to Samsungs, although Sammy has improved it in last update. As for EMUI, well, it depends. It's kinda messy but once you tune some things here and there I think it's nice. At least I have no problem with it. It feels more responsive than Samsung's One UI (and previously TouchWiz). Super Charging is extremely helpful, I remember when I had Note9 it's fast charging was a joke, it was comparable to 2015 charging rate.
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Cameras on both S10+ and P30 Pro are excellent, but I think Night Mode on Huawei is superior to Samsungs, although Sammy has improved it in last update. As for EMUI, well, it depends. It's kinda messy but once you tune some things here and there I think it's nice. At least I have no problem with it. It feels more responsive than Samsung's One UI (and previously TouchWiz). Super Charging is extremely helpful, I remember when I had Note9 it's fast charging was a joke, it was comparable to 2015 charging rate.
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I compared S10+ Night mode with Mate 20 Pro Night mode and I tell you that S10+ Night mode it's a joke even with last update.
s10+ day shot is very good but its look like editing the color are not normal , night shot is not usable its not good charge is slow and battery life is bad the screen is perfect but because of battery life i was use it on FHD+ and if you buy it you will too , in QHD the battery life almost 4 H OST , the stereo sound is perfect .
the P30 pro i love this camera in day and night , very speed charge and a good battery life . the screen is good for me and the sound is high but not stereo , i change from s10+ to p30 pro because of battery life and heating over gaming , if you have any Question just ask man
Recently swapped to the p30pro from s10plus.
Things I really miss.
Great video recording
Excellent stereo speakers
Headphone jack
Screen
Ui.. A little
Ear piece speaker for phone calls.
Things to consider when buying a P30pro.
Tiny symmetrical notch.
Camera zoom... Obviously.
Battery life.
Bluetooth audio lag is worst on this phone.
Speaker sucks ass
Video recording is OK.
Cannot turn off EIS in video like you can on the s10plus... Annoying.
Weird ui.
You will need nova launcher prime
Still Camera is amazing.
ipmanwck said:
Recently swapped to the p30pro from s10plus.
Things I really miss.
Great video recording
Excellent stereo speakers
Headphone jack
Screen
Ui.. A little
Ear piece speaker for phone calls.
Things to consider when buying a P30pro.
Tiny symmetrical notch.
Camera zoom... Obviously.
Battery life.
Bluetooth audio lag is worst on this phone.
Speaker sucks ass
Video recording is OK.
Cannot turn off EIS in video like you can on the s10plus... Annoying.
Weird ui.
You will need nova launcher prime
Still Camera is amazing.
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How does the battery life compare
Hazzay88 said:
How does the battery life compare
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P30 Pro = 2 days between charges, almost unknown with moment smartphones of any brand
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P30 Pro = 2 days between charges, almost unknown with moment smartphones of any brand
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Is the battery life better than your S10+
Hazzay88 said:
Is the battery life better than your S10+
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Yeah, it's a lot better than the S10+
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Yeah, it's a lot better than the S10+
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That is good to hear
I went from S9+ to P30 Pro and I am really satisfied so far.
Battery life is way better.
Screen is less sharp, but also less warm-leaning then Samsung with its orange tint (which may actually more accurate but doesn't look as good subjectively). I cannot distinguish single pixels
Camera is indeed a hit-or-miss that also was the case on my Samsung. The photos that do come out better are incredible and low light performance just obliterates. the S9+. In my opinion all modern flagships are good enough when lighting conditions are easy, but low light is where it matters. Macro is amazing but arguably a bit gimmicky, Zoom is a nice addition on vacations.
S10 has better screen, better UI, better support for Samsung peripherals like 360° cam and Smartwatches, can easily be rooted and flashed. Also gaming performance is better if you are into emulating Wii and PSP games.
I had an S10+ and broke it recently. I decided to get a P30 Pro dual sim and have no regrets. Aurora blue is an awesome looking phone!! I don't notice the screen resolution all that much, I don't play games so I don't need high res. The battery is a lot better on this phone. Went golfing this weekend and left phone in car, after 5 hours battery dropped 2%, my S10+ would have dropped at least 10-15%. One thing I really miss is Smart Lock. I can't find an equivalent on the P30. I think the camera is just as good as my S10+. Still not convinced on the USB headphones. I know the first trip on a plane I go on and watch a movie without being able to charge my phone while I have the headset on will probably bug me. Might have to use Bluetooth from now on. Also, what's with the Nano memory. You can't buy them anywhere other than Amazon. I ordered one but it said two weeks delivery. I hate proprietary devices!! Under screen fingerprint is the same on both phones, sometimes it works well, other times it fails. After using the P30 Pro over the weekend I think they are comparable phones and the P30 Pro was a LOT cheaper than the S10+. Bought the S10+ off Samsung site for $1700 CDN and the P30 Pro was $1199 CDN off Amazon.
I upgraded from the P20 pro to the P30 pro,must say the camera is a huge disappointment,lens flare and heat spots make taken a photo in the dark pretty pointless.
Never had one of these problems with the P20 pro
Is it a fault or is it effecting many others??
This is normal.
White spots on photos can be caused by light reflecting off a strong light source. It commonly appears when taking images around bright lights.
Yeah it's normal. Just use night mode when you take a photo with lights at night to lessen the lens flare
It's not normal,I am a freelance photographer and this is a fault which Huawei won't admit to.
Look at the examples below both shot in night mode of the same object,the P20 quality is superb the P30 is so bad it's unusable
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It's not normal,I am a freelance photographer and this is a fault which Huawei won't admit to.
Look at the examples below both shot in night mode of the same object,the P20 quality is superb the P30 is so bad it's unusable
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But P20 look weird
madjester67 said:
I upgraded from the P20 pro to the P30 pro,must say the camera is a huge disappointment,lens flare and heat spots make taken a photo in the dark pretty pointless.
Never had one of these problems with the P20 pro
Is it a fault or is it effecting many others??
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It's not normal, why? Because you have smudgy camera. Try to clean and wipe your camera lens first and you'll get better result
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It's not normal, why? Because you have smudgy camera. Try to clean and wipe your camera lens first and you'll get better result
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It's not smudgy,Huawei think it's a firmware problem as handsets in store did not replicate this problem
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It's not smudgy,Huawei think it's a firmware problem as handsets in store did not replicate this problem
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Try to not use the night mode. Night mode is suggested to be used only in very dark places. If you want to use night mode, set the ISO as low as possible and the AI will avoid luminescence from artificial lights.
I can confirm, mine does not do this, so I would suspect it's specific to your device and thus a warrant claim. I find the P30 Pro camera superior to my old P20 in almost every aspect...
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Try to not use the night mode. Night mode is suggested to be used only in very dark places. If you want to use night mode, set the ISO as low as possible and the AI will avoid luminescence from artificial lights.
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Same in all modes
NJ72 said:
I can confirm, mine does not do this, so I would suspect it's specific to your device and thus a warrant claim. I find the P30 Pro camera superior to my old P20 in almost every aspect...
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6 store handsets did work completely fine ( but all on old firmware )
My firmware is the 9.1.0.185 issued last week
Mine is also running .185, however I haven't taken a picture in the right conditions since the update to potentially recreate. I will test it later and let you know.
madjester67 said:
It's not normal,I am a freelance photographer and this is a fault which Huawei won't admit to.
Look at the examples below both shot in night mode of the same object,the P20 quality is superb the P30 is so bad it's unusable
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Hello,
I have the same configuration, have a p20pro and 'upgraded' to p30pro.
I made some kind of quick 'mirror' tests, like you did.
At first I was really disappointed because : yes the 'same' picture was so blurry and flared as yours.
I cleaned minutely the p30pro lenses and the next picture was the same as the p20pro but with more definition/details when you zoom in.
I'll try again tonight to see if it still the same.
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When I bought it, and after a few times using it, I already feel that the p30pro is way more dust, finger prints, etc...catching device than the p20pro.
And, it's also more slippy in the hand, on the couch, desk, etc...when 'naked'.
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My though is the lenses glass is also need to be cleaned with a soft tissue before taking pictures.
Tell me if it worked for you.
I'm really interesting in that behaviour, because the camera is an important feature for me too.
Cheers
ps: same mess and answer from the 'real life' thread.
Tapa'DoC'eD
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Mine is also running .185, however I haven't taken a picture in the right conditions since the update to potentially recreate. I will test it later and let you know.
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I reset mine,same results so going to a different Service center today to see if I can get answers
My wife had p20 pro and night mode shots was perfect. I bought p30 pro with verry hight hope and night mode dissapoint me. I went to waranty service and they check camera and they said that nothing is wrong. The sensor is verry sensible and got to be clean all the time.with P20 pro we dont had that problem never. With p30 pro 80% picrure in night mode has glance flare. Is awefull. And we are verry dissapointed. Huawei refuse to do something about our problem.
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Yes, dirty lens will give you bad pictures.
I may add...
No clear crystal clean lenses
Screw our pictures !!
Done some late test last night during full moon.
P30pro vs p20pro
With very clean lenses
And tripod
Really better details from p30pro.. Ok it's obvious
But color are way more natural with my p20pro!!
Yet not so much flare, but still, but also on p20pro
The point is, from my pov, as the p20pro's pictures are much natural its not as disturbing than the p30pro which the so (too) much 'fancy' that the blur and flare feel awkward.
Yes the settings were exactly the same on both devices.
I'm back on my p20pro now and waiting the next p30pro update... Hope they'll do something
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Flare on Mate 30 Pro
The flare is way worse in Mate 30 Pro. Taking night shots using normal mode is just sooo bad I have refrained from it. Even the antilight in day time causes intense flare. Huawei should fix this with an update. Petition anyone? Lol.
I see this thread is from August so apologies for dragging up a old thread but I can't stress enough that this issue was either a defective device or was just s bad update, I can confirm from at least November's OTA onwards the flare is nowhere near as bad as on the OPs photos
I honestly do like the Mate 20 lite. My only drawback is how terrible the camera is.
Has anyone been able to improve this situation or have a 3rd party app that will improve the cameras app?
I have Mate 20 lite LX3 and I am running EMUI 9.1.0.235
EDIT: After extensive research, I have found that the app "OPEN Camera" which is open source, is the best remedy that can fix the over saturation on all Huawei phones.
Are you sure your unit is not defective? My photos seem to look quite good, like, really good (I only don't like the excessive sharpness). Other than that, and despite having an iPhone 6 before, I say the quality is excellent. SNE-LX1 with 8.2.0.131 here (Pie for me has a huge battery drain).
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Are you sure your unit is not defective? My photos seem to look quite good, like, really good (I only don't like the excessive sharpness). Other than that, and despite having an iPhone 6 before, I say the quality is excellent. SNE-LX1 with 8.2.0.131 here (Pie for me has a huge battery drain).
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I have honestly thought about it being a defective unit.
I have also read a few reviews online where the camera is over saturated and the lighting is too much, which is the issue that I am having, my pictures even come out a bit grainy and or pixelated.
Other than that I am really happy with my Mate 20 lite. I charge my phone every 2 days and I love the battery on mine.
I am considering swapping it for another one since I Still have my warranty.
Have you tried disable the AI function on the camera? That is the main cause for oversaturation in some pictures. Otherwise the Mate 20 Lite takes great pictures with the stock camera app...
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Have you tried disable the AI function on the camera? That is the main cause for oversaturation in some pictures. Otherwise the Mate 20 Lite takes great pictures with the stock camera app...
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Yes I have. It works a bit and that is what leads me to believe that i have a defective unit.
Got my New Mate 20 replacement from my warranty!
I am happy to say that I picked up my new Mate 20 lite unit after reporting it as a defective unit.
The camera is a lot better! And the unit is not getting hot!
Yayy
So, got my phone yesterday and wanted to test the camera out. The s21 ultra will cost me around 60USD per month so I want to be blown away when moving up from s9+. But, so far I have experienced a "meh" situation where of course, the image on the screen is good, the scrolling is fantastic with 120Hz and the stereo speakers are awesome. But the image quality when just firing up the camera app and not doing any setting is just "meh". I am not impressed so far. I took some photos in the house today. Mostly with normal settings auto but the one with the deers are with pro mode and the same settings. I checked all settings and alla iso(plus rest) parameters. Am I missing something? Or why am I not impressed going from s9+ to s21 ultra?
I have not tested 4k/60fps video yet but I am already thinking of returning the phone and waiting for a good second hand version. Uploading some pictures. Let me know if I should test in another way
Forgot to add that the left pictures are always s21 ultra
Started checking the tube for some comparison and I mean videos, the look really good. I think just perhaps shooting neutral and color correct will do a nice job
Return the Phone.
I u are not happy with it.
I am just wondering if it's me, the phone or something else that makes me feel that s9+ to 21 ultra is not a big leap. I am planning to use my gimbal with my phone to capture some nice b-roll movies but what I can see so far not much has happened to the images. I am afraid to use the new s21 to much as I am thinking of returning it but I really want it to be a good buy, but already after 1 day I am thinking of a return. Perhaps I was expecting VHS to bluray difference but cameras are already so good that it's hard to make giant leaps.
It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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It's not a big leap in terms of camera. Personally I regret not returning it in time. Now I am stuck with it and the main problem for me is the weight. I bought it thinking I was going to use this for years but now I can't stand the thought of holding this brick for so long. Also, the photos are not a huge step forward. There are instances where I see more details but also more noise. I find them to be noisy and videos blotchy in low light. I mean, the truth is, it's not worth the money. Also, pay attention to the photos you are taking with it, because the S21 Ultra has the HDR processing on, no matter if you turn it off or not. So, if you see any difference between your S9+ and S21, it's actually the HDR. The biggest problem of them all is the fact that I cannot find a good alternative to it. All of the other flagships are basically the same thing, most of them don't even have the 10x optical zoom. Cameras just cannot be better than they are now as long as they have tiny sensors. So if you do return it, you might want to hold off upgrading for some time.
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Thanks, this is exactly what I was afraid of. I want to create some nice b-roll movies and I have a good gimbal for my phone. It feels like with a stable camera and normal daylight, there will be no difference. It's only if I want to do alot of lowlight or wide angle shots. It's just not worth the 60USD/month when I have an ok phone. I will wait for the s22 and see if it has some new power. According to the new qualcom the nextgen chip will wonders....but that is what every generation of phone says also, but when it comes to daily use I have not seen big leaps.
Tomorrow I will return the phone and sorry for all you s21u lovers, this one wasn't for me.
Thanks again @Randi03 for giving an open and honest view of the phone from a daily user
Glad to be of help. I also hope the next generations will bring something new and worth upgrading to... For me personally I will do my best to test them before buying and ignore all the hype from the manufacturers and the reviews.
A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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The snapdragon version is better than the Exynos because it gives good performance in all aspects. The camera quality is best compared to the Exynos version.
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A number of users have stated the S9 is Galaxy's best camera. I'm pretty sure you're not operating the S21 camera at optimal settings. Everyone knows the Exynos SoC lags behind the Snapdragon for camera quality but those photos are awful. Somethings not right but I doubt it's just the camera or chipset on your device.
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I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
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I did not set the camera to optimal settings. I wanted to try the s21ultra "out of the box". I tested some pictures on auto mode and when I switched to pro mode I made sure to at least use the same settings. Then of course we can discuss if the settings where optimal but this was not the point. 2 phones with same settings where one is a couple of generations behind should not have almost same quality pictures. And I cannot show you side-by-side the displays in preview mode but in some places I saw better preview of the image in the camera app on the s9+.
There is no doubt that the s21ultra is better, it is, but it's not 60USD/month better with my current phone
Well, I wanted to be wow-ed and really looke forward to the s21 ultra but yesterday I returned it. Waiting for the next generation but will really really check comparison videos before I decide anything
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This is what I'm afraid of. I'm currently on note 10+, love it but I want better camera, by that I mean better crop ability. Gcam makes things better but I still hope those mpx do the diffrence in crop ability
Hello there, everyone! I'm in the market for a new phone, and I currently own a Google Pixel 2. When it comes to phones, photo quality is a significant priority for me, therefore I'm wondering if the Samsung Galaxy S21 is the best option for the camera, or if the Google Pixel 6 or perhaps a different phone altogether would be better. Is the Samsung Galaxy S21, in general, the greatest phone on the market right now?
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In general is s21u the best (in android phones)
For camera pixel 6 pro is better.
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Hello there, everyone! I'm in the market for a new phone, and I currently own a Google Pixel 2. When it comes to phones, photo quality is a significant priority for me, therefore I'm wondering if the Samsung Galaxy S21 is the best option for the camera, or if the Google Pixel 6 or perhaps a different phone altogether would be better. Is the Samsung Galaxy S21, in general, the greatest phone on the market right now?
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If you're talking about stills alone, the S21 ultra is easily in the top 5 phones in the market, possibly top two, depending on your visual preference. As far as lens array versatility is concerned, it's probably the best.
However if by camera you mean video as well, then the iPhone still takes the crown overall. Of course this is personal opinion (and it pains me to admit this), but I've used both and if I had to choose one phone based on camera package alone, I'd go for the iPhone 13 Pro/ Max.
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If you're talking about stills alone, the S21 ultra is easily in the top 5 phones in the market, possibly top two, depending on your visual preference. As far as lens array versatility is concerned, it's probably the best.
However if by camera you mean video as well, then the iPhone still takes the crown overall. Of course this is personal opinion (and it pains me to admit this), but I've used both and if I had to choose one phone based on camera package alone, I'd go for the iPhone 13 Pro/ Max.
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Agreed. I'd also say that the iPhone has the edge for "on the fly" whip it out & shoot. The s21 Ultra requires a few extra seconds to frame, focus and iris. I haven't tried a camera app outside of stock and I can only see this getting better with better software.
That said, camera was huge to me when I got my s21 Ultra at the end of last month. I am very happy and I believe this phone is currently as close as Android will get to the camera quality of the iPhone. Something tells me we'll always be playing catch-up in this department but hey, what can you do. I'll never own an iPhone. I will deal.
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Hello there, everyone! I'm in the market for a new phone, and I currently own a Google Pixel 2. When it comes to phones, photo quality is a significant priority for me, therefore I'm wondering if the Samsung Galaxy S21 is the best option for the camera, or if the Google Pixel 6 or perhaps a different phone altogether would be better. Is the Samsung Galaxy S21, in general, the greatest phone on the market right now?
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for android the pixel 6 pro is the best (pixel 6 too)
lol the s21 ultra is not as good as the iphone 13 pro max calling it the greatest camera is wrong
The S21U has the Hardware and the Versatility of different lenses and the Zoom range which makes it a Great Buy.
It definitely has a Very Good Camera system and its up there among the Top Phones.
It definitely needs software improvements to really make use of the Hardware.
So In the Grand scheme of things Overall for an Android Phone its the Best Out there.
Also Do note that the S21U uses WYSIWYG ( what you see is what you get) technology for the camera so you know how your photo will look before you take it.
The Pixels do the Processing later after you have taken the photo. So the Photo looks better after the processing although it will look crap while taking it.
Honestly if huawei wasn't banned and lost google services the camera on the p50 pro might have been the best.
I had the P40 pro plus and the s21 ultra now both on par but i would give Huawei the edge for the better (more stable video) and night mode
I like to point and shoot....HDR is a bit wild in the sun....can't fault it for easy use....
I took this just random plane was according to flight radar at 30000 ft. Took a few shots to get
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I took this just random plane was according to flight radar at 30000 ft. Took a few shots to getView attachment 5508531
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Honestly that's a pretty fantastic shot given that it's 6 miles above you.
S21 ULTRA is the best. Period. iPhones may have an edge in some areas but the s21U still beats it. You just cant fight with the ZOOM cameras, they are super useful! And again, Android is just better than IOS, unless you are a girl or a guy who does not care about anything deeper than basic App use.
Alas, YES, the default camera app does NOT record great video, iPhone certainly beats it out of your pocket. However, if you install Filmic PRO on your S21U and set a profile properly, the quality is out of this world, slashes the iPhone.
By setting up Filmic properly, I mean to put it in 4K, Filmic Quality, 30 FPS, OIS, Sharpness to DISABLED, and Noise removal to FAST or HIGH QUALITY. Try it, it is worth it.
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S21 ULTRA is the best. Period. iPhones may have an edge in some areas but the s21U still beats it. You just cant fight with the ZOOM cameras, they are super useful! And again, Android is just better than IOS, unless you are a girl or a guy who does not care about anything deeper than basic App use.
Alas, YES, the default camera app does NOT record great video, iPhone certainly beats it out of your pocket. However, if you install Filmic PRO on your S21U and set a profile properly, the quality is out of this world, slashes the iPhone.
By setting up Filmic properly, I mean to put it in 4K, Filmic Quality, 30 FPS, OIS, Sharpness to DISABLED, and Noise removal to FAST or HIGH QUALITY. Try it, it is worth it.
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Hadn't heard of that app before. Went to play store to download it but skeptical due to the poor reviews (3.4 star rated)
I filtered reviews by device and the S21 Ultra user reviews are terrible, mostly 1 star.
It costs a pretty penny too, so I decided not to go for it unless I get more confirmed testimonials from other users.
I can't stand Apple but I have loved their camera for a long time, I used to think it was better until I started using Gcam on the S21 Ultra. I like it way more now, the stock Samsung camera apps have always left so much to be desired. You have this amazing piece of hardware, but a clunky, under optioned, restrictive camera app. Never made any sense to me. I guess since I come from a full frame, I'm always left wanting more customization. Gcam has been great so far.