Moto G7 Plus vs G7 Specs...worth the upgrade? - Moto G7 Plus Questions & Answers

Hi. Is the G7 Plus a more compelling choice than the regular G7?
I have read reviews of poor screen colours/calibration, so-so battery life & audio output and the camera's dynamic range could be better.
Is this correct guys? I dunno if I want to invest in the "Plus" version or just the regular version.
Please help. Thanks.

At least in Mexico I was able compare them both side by side, so I bought the G7 Plus. That means:
PROS:
-Better cameras, The main rear has optical stabilization.
-Awesome Stereo speakers. The are effin loud.
-Faster Charging
-Snapdragon 636
Otherwise they are almost the same, so It made sense for me to buy the Plus version. The price difference wasn't that much.
CONS:
-The screen looks washed out, is just an old IPS panel. I came from a Note5 so I miss the vibrant Super AMOLED colors.
-Not really a bad thing: Battery life has been good for me. Intensive use gets me over 4 hours of SOT, and even up to 6 hours with just browsing.
-The bundled cable is USB Type-C to USB Type-C...so you may have to buy a regular Type-A to Type-C cable to transfer data
-Some models lack NFC

cachanilla86 said:
At least in Mexico I was able compare them both side by side, so I bought the G7 Plus. That means:
PROS:
-Better cameras, The main rear has optical stabilization.
-Awesome Stereo speakers. The are effin loud.
-Faster Charging
-Snapdragon 636
Otherwise they are almost the same, so It made sense for me to buy the Plus version. The price difference wasn't that much.
CONS:
-The screen looks washed out, is just an old IPS panel. I came from a Note5 so I miss the vibrant Super AMOLED colors.
-Not really a bad thing: Battery life has been good for me. Intensive use gets me over 4 hours of SOT, and even up to 6 hours with just browsing.
-The bundled cable is USB Type-C to USB Type-C...so you may have to buy a regular Type-A to Type-C cable to transfer data
-Some models lack NFC
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I have ordered one today so will wait for that.
But I agree with most of what you said and stand by my assessment/research on the negative things about the G7 phone.
You wonder if Motorola actually does some research as well and if they do care about customers i.e. looking to fix all these software issues.?

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[Q] Anyone have both GC1 and GC2. Would one be good for my specific use case?

I film all the lectures in my classes at college and then I upload them to a private YouTube channel to send to my close friends/classmates. This way, if they miss a class I have them covered, if I have to miss a class, they take my camera and film for me, etc, etc. It's a win win for everyone.
I'm currently using a Sony CX150 camcorder to do the videos, but with a fulltime schedule and intense classes it's getting harder and harder to make time to transfer videos from the camera to my computer, upload them to youtube, name them, etc.
This is where the Galaxy camera would come in. I'm thinking this would be a good way to shoot the videos and have them immediately upload to my YouTube page after each class. This would take a big inconvenient step out of the equation, and since I'll be connected to school WiFi, it should be seamless. I could also replace my Sony NEX with this (I think). I'm not a photography person so I think this could substitute just fine for my still and video camera.
Few questions:
If I had 2-3 one hour classes with continuous video, how many batteries would I need to film the classes and then have juice to upload to YouTube? I'll drop the quality down as much as possible (doesn't need to be 1080p).
How is the mic on these? The CX 150 picks up the professors speech just fine, and that has to happen for this to work. An external mic could be used if need be?
Is there another product you guys would recommend for this specific use case, if not the Galaxy Cameras?
If you do recommend the Galaxy Cameras, would the first generation be fine for me or do you recommend the 2nd gen?
Any of you use the extended batteries hinted in the other threads?
Thanks!
I'll answer what I can:
Poi25 said:
Few questions:
If I had 2-3 one hour classes with continuous video, how many batteries would I need to film the classes and then have juice to upload to YouTube? I'll drop the quality down as much as possible (doesn't need to be 1080p).
How is the mic on these? The CX 150 picks up the professors speech just fine, and that has to happen for this to work. An external mic could be used if need be?
Is there another product you guys would recommend for this specific use case, if not the Galaxy Cameras?
If you do recommend the Galaxy Cameras, would the first generation be fine for me or do you recommend the 2nd gen?
Any of you use the extended batteries hinted in the other threads?
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1. I don't actually know how long the battery would last with continuous recording. I've yet to record something that long. You can always just hook it up to the charger -- it uses the standard Samsung USB charger, so it could even be powered through a laptop, etc. Also, you could get a portable battery charger/bank thing. They're relatively inexpensive now and can easily double if not even triple your battery life.
2. The mic is mediocre. However, you can use an external mic but you'll need an iPad adapter because the mic shares a port with the headphone jack. You could use a wireless lapel type mic or a shotgun mic, both of which are available from Amazon, etc. for rather cheap. I use either a wired lapel mic or a shotgun mic with a flash bracket to mount it.
4. It probably would be difficult to find a 1st gen Galaxy Camera, and since the 2nd gen ones have be reduced significantly in price, I'm not sure that you'd want to get a 1st gen model.
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1. I don't actually know how long the battery would last with continuous recording. I've yet to record something that long. You can always just hook it up to the charger -- it uses the standard Samsung USB charger, so it could even be powered through a laptop, etc. Also, you could get a portable battery charger/bank thing. They're relatively inexpensive now and can easily double if not even triple your battery life.
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I don't always have access to a port to keep charge when in class, but portable power bank is an option. Do you have the GC1 or GC2? Currently I just carry multiple batteries for my camcorder and swap them out real quick when one runs out.
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2. The mic is mediocre. However, you can use an external mic but you'll need an iPad adapter because the mic shares a port with the headphone jack. You could use a wireless lapel type mic or a shotgun mic, both of which are available from Amazon, etc. for rather cheap. I use either a wired lapel mic or a shotgun mic with a flash bracket to mount it.
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Which one is it, wireless or wired?
internetpilot said:
4. It probably would be difficult to find a 1st gen Galaxy Camera, and since the 2nd gen ones have be reduced significantly in price, I'm not sure that you'd want to get a 1st gen model.
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There are 1st gen ones on eBay for $160. Don't know if it's worth shelling out the extra money for the 2. You can get the extended 2,000 mAh batteries for the S2 and they fit in the GC1 correct? I could give 2 ****s about a couple hundred MHz spec bump in the processor. But updated OS in the future would be nice.
Poi25 said:
I don't always have access to a port to keep charge when in class, but portable power bank is an option. Do you have the GC1 or GC2? Currently I just carry multiple batteries for my camcorder and swap them out real quick when one runs out.
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I have the GC2. I also bought an extra battery for it and external charging sled. I also have what can best be described as a "lipstick" power bank originally bought for my phone, but the battery is in the GC2 is identical capacity as my phone, so it works just as well.
Poi25 said:
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I have the wired lapel mic (with a really long cable) that I often use for my son's YouTube videos, but a wireless lapel mic will also work and as long as you steer clear of namebrands you can get a wireless lapel mic for pretty cheap (like US$40). When recording my sons' band concerts or other large room events, I usually just use my $30 shotgun mic. It does really well. I put it and the camera on a small flash bracket which gives me a handle for easier handling, but there's also a tripod mount on the bottom of the flash bracket
For more specific info about external mics, see my posts (with links) in this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/gal...sung-galaxy-camera-external-wireless-t2861562
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There are 1st gen ones on eBay for $160. Don't know if it's worth shelling out the extra money for the 2. You can get the extended 2,000 mAh batteries for the S2 and they fit in the GC1 correct? I could give 2 ****s about a couple hundred MHz spec bump in the processor. But updated OS in the future would be nice.
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I never looked into the GC1 to the point of knowing what battery it uses. When I was looking at it, the price was so ridiculously high (and stayed that way for so long) that I just gave up on it. The GC2 price went down a lot sooner. The processor is much faster in the GC2 -- noticeably so in all the comparison reviews. I mean, if you're just turning it on and pressing record, then you might not notice it, but if you're doing any type of even minor editing of the video before you upload it, you'll definitely notice it. Also, the OS on the GC1 is rather old and they never updated it (and now never will with the GC2 out). The GC2 is running v4.3. That being said, they also likely will not update the OS on the GC2, so you're stuck at v4.3 even with that camera.
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I have the GC2. I also bought an extra battery for it and external charging sled. I also have what can best be described as a "lipstick" power bank originally bought for my phone, but the battery is in the GC2 is identical capacity as my phone, so it works just as well.
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What do you mean charging sled? Like an external charger you plug into the wall that a battery clips into?
I just pulled the trigger and won an eBay auction for a mint GC2 with a missing wrist strap for $231.45 including shipping. Good deal in my opinion.
I was thinking of buying these 3 batteries which comes out to $15.60/battery and this external wall charger for $8.42. Thoughts?
I wish someone made an extended battery for these GC2s. There's one company that makes a 2700mAh for the GC1. I'm hoping this camera fits my needs!
Poi25 said:
What do you mean charging sled? Like an external charger you plug into the wall that a battery clips into?
I just pulled the trigger and won an eBay auction for a mint GC2 with a missing wrist strap for $231.45 including shipping. Good deal in my opinion.
I was thinking of buying these 3 batteries which comes out to $15.60/battery and this external wall charger for $8.42. Thoughts?
I wish someone made an extended battery for these GC2s. There's one company that makes a 2700mAh for the GC1. I'm hoping this camera fits my needs!
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I actually don't like the wrist strap, so it's a better deal than you might think. Haha.
Yes, it's the genuine Samsung charging sled, and the battery is also an OEM Samsung. I actually couldn't find a 3rd party battery for the GC2, so I didn't have any option other than OEM. I usually don't mind going OEM on the battery. I've had several devices destroyed using 3rd party batteries in them, especially charging them.
Just got the camera in. Didn't have much time to play with it because I have to get to bed now.
However, every time I tried to record a video, saving to device memory, microSD formatted as FAT32 or exFAT, there is a 20 minute countdown timer. Is 20 minutes of video the max this thing will record?
If so, that's ****ing stupid.

Tronsmart Titan Quick Charge 2.0 5 Port Desktop Charging Station

The good people at Tronsmart sent me this desktop charging station to review, so here it is!
All round a rather nice charging station available on Amazon - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B017OLP8UE
Real TITAN among all chargers
Remarkable product really. Here's my summarized review:-
As always, this review is split into following categories:-
- Boxing & Contents
- Build Quality & Design
- Functionality & Performance
- Pros & Cons
- Conclusion
Boxing & Contents
I have been using multiple other Tronsmart products and I couldn't help noticing that they have recently replaced their usual brown boxes with white elegant boxes (still eco-friendly/recyclable) which actually look nicer. On opening, you can expect the following items inside:-
- Tronsmart UC5F Desktop Charging Station
- 2.5 ft Power Cord
- 1 Warranty Information Card
- 1 VoltIQ Information Card
Yes, there are 5 USB output ports, yet there is no USB cable issued along with this unit. This might not be a problem to few since each USB device comes with it's own USB Cable, but there will be several people out there who carry their OEM charges along and they would need additional cables to use with this unit. Its a dissapointment for sure even though you can pick a set of 5 USB cables for just 10 bux on Amazon from any reputed brand.
Build Quality & Design
This is one category where Tronsmart has never dissapointed me. I liked the build quality and design of the first product I ever used from this brand and I like the new ones even better. They have been improving their product quality with every product they release. Living upto its name, Tronsmart Titan is the best desktop charger I have ever owned. With the dimension of 6.2" x 3.3" x 1.1", this is a very solid charging unit with good aesthetics. Surely it's bigger than any of the other desktop chargers out there, but with 5 Quick Charge 2.0 supported outputs, I wouldn't expect anything smaller than this for avoiding the heating issues like any other fast chargers.
It has a bright green LED which could be a good or a bad thing depending on where you use it. The unit the unit also has a classic switch for turning it on/off for convenience.
All in all, it definitely gives impression of a premium product.
Functionality & Performance
With an output of 90W, this thing is a beast. As per the specifications, each of it's 5 USB outputs supports Quick Charge 9V/2A and 12V/1.5A. Morever, all of them are equipped with VoltIQ technology, so, no matter if you're charging a less powered bluetooth earbuds or high powered flagship phone, this unit can detect the best output for each connected device.
Unfortunately, I only have 2 fast charging devices, so I couldn't test 5 simultanous Quick Charge connections but this thing didn't even warm up while I had connected 2 Quick Charge phones, 2 smartwatches and 1 earbuds. Unlike many other multi-port chargers (with QC2.0), this didn't even make the humming sound ( you can hear it very lightly only if you touch your ears to the unit surface). Until now, my favourite was Tronsmart 54W Desktop Charger but this has just replaced that in my bedroom. With this unit, I wouldn't have to worry about which device I'm connecting to which port, I'll just throw it in any of them and let it work on that!
The size of this desktop charger is probably bigger than any of the other desktop chargers but I have been told that this is done to accomodate enough space inside so that the unit doesn't heat up even when 5 QC supported devices are charged simultanously and that works pretty well as far as I could test. Also, if you use it on your desk like me, the size wouldn't be a problem at all.
Now, no matter how much I like this charger, there are certain things that could be incorporated for a much better experience. I've listed them below.
Pros & Cons
Pros
- 90W Output with 5 x Quick Charge 2.0 ports
- Excellent build quality
- VoltIQ in each port
- A Power Switch
- No heating problem
- No humming sound
- Power LED
Cons
- Power cord could have been longer. 2.5ft is too small to reach top of a desk.
- Inclusion of in-box USB Cables
- Power Switch could have turned off Power LED (currently it doesn't)
Conclusion
If you own more than one QC Certified devices and you're looking for a desktop charger, your search ends here.. Just get it, you won't regret it at all!

[Review] Tronsmart Presto 12000mAh USB Type-C/QC 3.0 Power Bank - Best yet!

Seeing as though power banks are a dime a dozen and there are a billion knock off brands out there, I tend to only trust a few brands that have proved their worth. Here is my review of the newest offering from Tronsmart. I am on the trade in your Samsung every year plan, so this will definitely be useful for any of the upcoming Samsung flagships. It the best of past,present, and future.
Look/Feel
First impressions were very good. The Power Bank was packed well, in the typical Tronsmart purple/white packaging and came with a good quality USB-C to USB A cable for charging the bank itself. The bank itself has a good sturdy feel and seems to be made well and out of quality materials. The matte and glossy black make it look very high end. There are white leds to indicate the remaining power level in the bank. The power button has a nice tactile feel.
Performance
The Volt IQ did a good job of recognizing the my phone and applying an appropriate amount of power. It recognized the various devices I plugged in and adjusted the voltage and amps accordingly (Bluetooth speakers, headphones, droid mini, tablets, etc).
The Power bank charged my S7 Edge with typical QC 2.0 voltage and amps (it supports Quick Charge 3.0, but my phone doesn't).
- The highest I saw was 9V @ 1.62 A.
Overall impressions are excellent, I would buy this product again. It is well made, did not get hot, performs great and looks nice. The 12000mah is plenty to charge my phone 3 times from empty to full, or my kiddos tablets 3 times. It is a reasonable size and weight compared to others I have purchased. I have no desire to carry a brick sized power bang with me.This one is ideal for travel, camping, beach trips, or just heavy phone use days. I do wish it came with a USB-C to Micro usb as micro is still the norm and will need a few years to fade out. I'll be ordering one so I can utilize both ports at once.
Amazon Link
https://www.amazon.com/Tronsmart-12...1468502754&sr=8-1&keywords=tronsmart+12000mah
The 12000mah is plenty to charge my phone 3.5 times from empty to full
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The S7 Edge has a 3,600 battery
3600*3.5 = 12,600...
Besides power banks never give you the exact capacity it tells just like the usb drives for example.
Seems to me just as if you're just promoting tronsmart.
bigpapa007 said:
The S7 Edge has a 3,600 battery
3600*3.5 = 12,600...
Besides power banks never give you the exact capacity it tells just like the usb drives for example.
Seems to me just as if you're just promoting tronsmart.
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Great use of the calculator. It was just an estimate. Besides, I rarely kill my phone to empty, so this would definitely give me 3 nightly charges.
I'll humor you and change the op.
I do reviews on tronsmart products because they fail to let me down. Some I have purchased and some were sent to me for review. I also do reviews on all the other cases and gadgets I purchase.
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[n00b question/semi-rant thread] USB C to 3.5 jack adapter

Mate 10 pro user here.
I mean, really, how hard is it, to put a 3.5mm jack in a 700€ phone?
Whatever, ontopic, since I already lost my original adapter, has anyone tried one of the cheap Chinese ones, something like THIS for example? Does it work alright? If yes, I'm going to buy 30, because I'm going to lose 28. Is there something I need to be careful about?
Once again, thumbs up for taking away features. :good::good::highfive:
I think it was a Huawei executive who explained that people say they would want a thicker phone if it meant it includes feature X, but when people go and actually purchase a phone, they buy via hand feel where thinness wins.
The issue with USB C adapters is that there isn't really a standard way of getting audio out of the port. Most implementations are proprietary. You really have to buy one to test out before you go and buy 30.
i have one of this from gearbest and is working fine with mate 10 pro
also i have one with charge and audio same time and working fine. i mean audio part, charging is only regular, not fast charge
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i have one of this from gearbest and is working fine with mate 10 pro
also i have one with charge and audio same time and working fine. i mean audio part, charging is only regular, not fast charge
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Where did you get the charge and audio cable from? I'm going to need one for my P20 Pro but a lot I see for sale don't seem to charge and supply audio at the same time (according to the reviews on Amazon at least).
i tried the adapter that comes with the mate 10 pro on my mate 10 non-pro, and it doesn't work! LOL
i bought the razer brand adapter from amazon and it is the BOMB. highly recommend.
I ordered a cheap random one from Amazon which works fine with audio, but charges at maximum 300ma, which is fine if you are using it over night, but obviously not great otherwise
Can you link that?
Anyone has a link to one that has aux and charging at the same time?
The Mate 10 Pro requires an adapter with a DAC (digital to analogue converter) in it. Basically that means the adapter needs a small audio processor and amp to convert the digital stream in to something your headphones can use.
Some of the really cheap adapters don't contain a DAC due to some different implementations of audio via USB C.
The really cheap adapters with a DAC might sound bad if the amp and processor are nasty and weak.
I'm not sure what the right amount is to spend to get a good quality one. I got a fairly cheap adapter which charges at the same time to use in the car so I can charge for sat nav and have audio (car doesn't allow Bluetooth music). The sound quality of this seems to be comparable to the bundled adapter without a charge socket when comparing the two one after the other. It's certainly not noticeably worse.
The adapter I got is advertised as allowing charging of up to 1.5a but I haven't seen more than 900ma. Still just about enough to charge slowly when listening to music, and to stop any drain if using sat nav in the car.
This isn't the seller I used but is the same product so you can see what I've got working for audio and charging:
Baseus usb c to 3.5mm adapter 2 in 1 charge
https://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/Baseus-Typ...-Audio-Jack-USB-C-Cable-Adapter-/332515816015
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Anyone has a link to one that has aux and charging at the same time?
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This is the one I bought
The audio worked surprisingly well, with no hissing (Very quiet with dirt cheap headphones, but quite acceptable with a £10 pair). Only downside was that the charge was 300mA max according to Ampere - but since I was charging it overnight it wasn't an issue.
I'm sure there are better ones out there, but for less than £3 I got more than I expected!
Hi, i bought a second original adaptor from Huawei, it costs 12euros (like 15 dollars), minimal and short with great audio quality. Don't save 10 bucks on this item if you like audio quality

Exynos DAC

Does anybody know what the audio is like on the n9. N8 was impressive. Anybody found details on the n9?
Thanks
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I am waiting to hear that too, I ordered mine. I had a V20 before and it was brilliant.
Probably Cirrus Logic CS47L93 as with Exynos S9. GSMArena's measurements are very promising but I take them with a grain of salt. I'm still wondering about output voltage though, as PhoneArena hasn't done the measurement for the Note 9, although it was measured at 0.75V for the S9. That should be decent enough for most consumer-level headphones but still lower than past iPhones or HTCs that had headphone jacks, or LG V-series.
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Probably Cirrus Logic CS47L93 as with Exynos S9. GSMArena's measurements are very promising but I take them with a grain of salt. I'm still wondering about output voltage though, as PhoneArena hasn't done the measurement for the Note 9, although it was measured at 0.75V for the S9. That should be decent enough for most consumer-level headphones but still lower than past iPhones or HTCs that had headphone jacks, or LG V-series.
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I am not sure about wired big headphones, but the volume from the headphone jack is pretty good on the bundles AKG's. The HTC 10 etc are something else, but I wasn't impressed with the ourput from iphones or the V series DAC's. Not enough volume.
htc10>Note9
so going from my htc10 to note 9 is a step down?
kindly do let us know.
thanks.
In my opinion, I don't think it's a step down in real audio quality to the ear on the snapdragon. The HTC doesn't perform as good as an external DAC, IMO and I don't notice a big difference on the devices. I had the same questions, being a lifelong HTC guy. But if you've got more sensitive ears than me or different audio profiles you may hear a difference.
I use the ear-studio ES-100 portable DAC and Bluetooth DAC and if you go that route, I highly recommend it.
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well other than audio i need a decent camera and good battery life.
htc is failing in the last department.(Battery)...
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so going from my htc10 to note 9 is a step down?
kindly do let us know.
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I think audio detail/clarity is pretty similar to the HTC10. The output is much weaker though. I have low impedance earphones so it's not much of a struggle. Higher impedance headphones may not achieve the same volume levels. I know GSM Arena rated the audio very highly if I remember. Not as good as the LG, but close.
well, that is my main concern, maybe it is my imagination but having the headphones pumping out music at half the maximum of the htc10 made me feel good...(i Know i'm weird)
i migrated from s6e+ to the htc10, day and night difference in audio quality between the two.
if the note9 can do better (at least better than the 10) i'd bag it. Oh Well maybe next year sammy
Like the S9, the DAC on the exynos version is probably a custom Cirrus Logic CS47L93 design and very highly regarded in the audiophile world (unlike the AqSTIC DAC in the snapdragon version).
Its almost identical pretty much to the fantastic CS43131: https://www.cirrus.com/products/cs43131/
However the DAC is only half the story. True amplification and impedance plays a big part when driving high powered earphones. But it is the audio tuning that is key. The reason why high end audio separates like Nad, Arcam and Cambridge Audio etc beat the still great quality of a SONOS is down to stellar audio engineering, crossover interference minimisation and high quality internals etc.
Samsung have actually done a decent job here. There is a difference in quality between their snapdragon and exynos (though they also tuned the Aqstic to the best if its capabilities to be fair, but the soundstage on the exynos is more apparent).
HTC 10 used Aqstic as well, but they use a Class D amp alongside it. Previously they only depended on using the integrated DACs for their SoC, usually with a Class D amp at ~1V. The Mediatek devices had a Wolfson DAC and the results were pretty comparable between them. That said, some reviewers did note that HTC's headphone output has clipping distortion at maximum volume (although it is said to be blaringly loud). I had the HTC Butterfly s before that and despite GSMArena giving it an outstanding audio, and it had this issue along with hissing. Its volume isn't particularly high either, and according to PhoneArena its output was only 0.35V, which is odd for an HTC. Also, its headphone jack wasn't very durable and got damaged when the cable got strained.
I'm still curious to see measurements from the Snapdragon Note 9 and the output voltage of the Note 9. S9/S9+ is 0.75V. I think the volume is excellent for IEMs, but for over-ear headphones it is still little low. Audio-Technica MSR7 is quite loud, but the Takstar Pro 82 and 1More MK802 still require a fair bit of volume to match it - all are 32 ohms. I also used the Sony Xperia Z5 which also had only 0.35V headphone output, but it was louder than the HTC at max volume without any bass clipping distortion. MSR7 was quite loud at maximum volume but the other two were borderline in terms of volume. The overall sound was brighter with a slight roll-off in the bass. Quite a few users complained about the DAC but I thought it wasn't too bad. I think the Note 9's is less brittle-sounding and more subtle with the treble, but still detailed. The headphone jack was also more durable than the HTC's although I've had an occasion where it temporarily failed on me and I needed to use SoundAbout to force detection (there were many complaints of such happening to Xperia phones). I'm wondering if Samsung Galaxy headphone jacks are more durable?
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HTC 10 used Aqstic as well, but they use a Class D amp alongside it. Previously they only depended on using the integrated DACs for their SoC, usually with a Class D amp at ~1V. The Mediatek devices had a Wolfson DAC and the results were pretty comparable between them. That said, some reviewers did note that HTC's headphone output has clipping distortion at maximum volume (although it is said to be blaringly loud). I had the HTC Butterfly s before that and despite GSMArena giving it an outstanding audio, and it had this issue along with hissing. Its volume isn't particularly high either, and according to PhoneArena its output was only 0.35V, which is odd for an HTC. Also, its headphone jack wasn't very durable and got damaged when the cable got strained.
I'm still curious to see measurements from the Snapdragon Note 9 and the output voltage of the Note 9. S9/S9+ is 0.75V. I think the volume is excellent for IEMs, but for over-ear headphones it is still little low. Audio-Technica MSR7 is quite loud, but the Takstar Pro 82 and 1More MK802 still require a fair bit of volume to match it - all are 32 ohms. I also used the Sony Xperia Z5 which also had only 0.35V headphone output, but it was louder than the HTC at max volume without any bass clipping distortion. MSR7 was quite loud at maximum volume but the other two were borderline in terms of volume. The overall sound was brighter with a slight roll-off in the bass. Quite a few users complained about the DAC but I thought it wasn't too bad. I think the Note 9's is less brittle-sounding and more subtle with the treble, but still detailed. The headphone jack was also more durable than the HTC's although I've had an occasion where it temporarily failed on me and I needed to use SoundAbout to force detection (there were many complaints of such happening to Xperia phones). I'm wondering if Samsung Galaxy headphone jacks are more durable?
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some good points of note here- see what i did there lol! . Also we must not forget how a more powerful headphone amp may have a hit on the battery as its essentially providing more power to the more hungry headphones available in the wilderness. The Note 9 is marketed more or less with the business user in mind. Battery priority (and we can debate til the cows come home about battery!) seems to be favouring other areas and its wired audiophile capabilities are not a main selling point...
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I am not sure about wired big headphones, but the volume from the headphone jack is pretty good on the bundles AKG's. The HTC 10 etc are something else, but I wasn't impressed with the ourput from iphones or the V series DAC's. Not enough volume.
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Then you should know about how to "trick" the LG phones with Quad DACs built-in into switching to their louder modes. The modes are: Normal device (lowest volume), Aux/External Device Detected (next louder), and High Impedance Mode (aka "HIM", the loudest).
How do you do this? There's a couple ways. If you want it just a LITTLE louder (Aux mode), connect the male side of a male 3.5mm to female 3.5mm adapter into the LG phone, and then connect the headphone jack into the female side of the adapter. Boom! Instant Aux mode!
Not loud enough?? lol Then buy a high impedance adapter off eBay like this one (MUST be the 75 ohm, or higher, but 75 ohm is better). This will put the phone into HIM and drive headphones up to 600 ohms. Just do the same process mentioned above for Aux.
RockStar2005 said:
Then you should know about how to "trick" the LG phones with Quad DACs built-in into switching to their louder modes. The modes are: Normal device (lowest volume), Aux/External Device Detected (next louder), and High Impedance Mode (aka "HIM", the loudest).
How do you do this? There's a couple ways. If you want it just a LITTLE louder (Aux mode), connect the male side of a male 3.5mm to female 3.5mm adapter into the LG phone, and then connect the headphone jack into the female side of the adapter. Boom! Instant Aux mode!
Not loud enough?? lol Then buy a high impedance adapter off eBay like this one (MUST be the 75 ohm, or higher, but 75 ohm is better). This will put the phone into HIM and drive headphones up to 600 ohms. Just do the same process mentioned above for Aux.
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Adds more hardware into the signal path thus creating potential for static and getting a less clean background. I'd rather have less volume with clean signal than distortion or clipping.
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Adds more hardware into the signal path thus creating potential for static and getting a less clean background. I'd rather have less volume with clean signal than distortion or clipping.
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Potential, maybe. But I was doing the Aux method for several months on my LG V30, and I never heard ANY kind of static or distortion at all. The pros by far outweigh the cons here. Having that extra amp power strongly benefits the sound coming through your headphones.
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Potential, maybe. But I was doing the Aux method for several months on my LG V30, and I never heard ANY kind of static or distortion at all. The pros by far outweigh the cons here. Having that extra amp power strongly benefits the sound coming through your headphones.
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Having a low noise floor and ample headroom far outweigh potentials like static or loss of hearing because I want cannons, not speakers on my ears. Plus, I have a portable amp, JDS Labs CD5 which can make my Beyerdynamics COP or 770pro 250 ohms rattle my chest if I want to lose my hearing. ?
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Having a low noise floor and ample headroom far outweigh potentials like static or loss of hearing because I want cannons, not speakers on my ears. Plus, I have a portable amp, JDS Labs CD5 which can make my Beyerdynamics COP or 770pro 250 ohms rattle my chest if I want to lose my hearing.
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That's always another option too, but the convenience that comes with only having one device should be considered too. And the V30's Quad DAC is pretty amazing. It was able to match up with my old $300 Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC device as well.
I got the DT 1770 Pro a few months ago and LOVE it too! Beyerdynamic makes some fantastic headphones!!
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That's always another option too, but the convenience that comes with only having one device should be considered too. And the V30's Quad DAC is pretty amazing. It was able to match up with my old $300 Oppo HA-2 amp/DAC device as well.
I got the DT 1770 Pro a few months ago and LOVE it too! Beyerdynamic makes some fantastic headphones!!
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My V20 is my DAP now. Plenty of volume with built in amp. The CD5 is pretty compact. Able to rubber band it with a phone easily but I've hardly used it since the V20. Yeah. I need to get some Beyerdynamics 600ohm or open headphones. I like both of mine but want something a little more airy or different.
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My V20 is my DAP now. Plenty of volume with built in amp. The CD5 is pretty compact. Able to rubber band it with a phone easily but I've hardly used it since the V20. Yeah. I need to get some Beyerdynamics 600ohm or open headphones. I like both of mine but want something a little more airy or different.
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Yeah the volume I get from HIM is just right for me too ftw.
Yes the Quad DAC has made things a bit easier. I don't know if my next phone will be LG but if it's not I will very likely just get this bad boy........the Radsone ES100, which several ppl on Head-Fi and Amazon customer reviewers have stated sounds better than their former wired setup (with amp/DAC). I think the secret is that it has a DUAL DAC setup, and LDAC ftw. We'll see. Or else the wired Sabaj Da3, which several ppl have claimed outdoes the AudioQuest DragonFly Red. Though with the latter (Da3) I would have to carry my charger with me if I go long distance or into the city which I frequently do. lol
I've never tried any of their 600 ohm ones. I went through MANY headphones over the last 4 years to get to where I'm at now. I'm in NO hurry to upgrade anytime soon, though if I did, it would most likely be the MrSpeakers AEON Flow closed, or else Esther-C. I travel by train into the city a lot as I'd mentioned, so open-back doesn't work for me. lol
Do any of those amps have the Asahi Kasei 4458 or 4490? I would love to hear the 4490s in a phone tuned proper. I have a microprocessor with the 4458 and it is damn good. And the 4490 is better.
I wonder is Samsung peeks over Motorola's shoulder. Battery mods would actually be pretty cool for note series. An extra few mm ergonomic battery mods would serve as a good base for sketching and drawing on a tablet especially. The note9 would rock the boat with Dex and a decent 1080p projector. Stackable mod with speakers. Or Asahi Kasei 4490/4458 DAC headphone amp.
With battery mods that can easily swap batteries to recycle, make them stackable and polish Dex even more along with other endeavors. Hear me Samsung? Good hardware and software long term ideas. It will be done.
Sorry I am reading the Paris Agreement. ???

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