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For folks who have owned multiple Nexus branded products (Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 7) - What can I expect in terms of quality from my first Nexus product? What have been your experiences as you moved from one Nexus product to other? I know quality can be applied at many levels, be it the product build, performance, software etc - apart from the pure GOOG experience.
Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
Edit: And Nexus products are what google themselves use, so you know its pretty much top of the line for that moment.
Edit2: And I have had Nexus one, Nexus S, and now Galaxy Nexus.
Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
rmm200 said:
Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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300 got rave reviews, tech sites/bloggers stoked over infinity pad. even Anandtech impressed. prime had good reviews but there are some that had issues. which is expected with any device.
If Google themselves found Asus to be competent enough to build their very first Nexus tablet, that shows Google has extreme confidence in Asus. I'm not worried. I had a satisfying experience with my first ASUS product, which is the Transformer Prime. Been loving it ever since last Dec. since it was so good, I will go with Asus again on the 16gb Nexus tablet I pre ordered already. I have no doubts new Nexus 7 will be a hit. Reviewers already said the build quality is superb and feels high end. then we know the software and chipset flies on this 7in.
all reviewers so far said this device feels and performs like a high end one. even the display is really good with high dpi count.
clandest said:
Will saying that I will only buy nexus phones tell you anything about 'quality'?
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Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?
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Of course not, but these being branded as Nexus and GOOG using multiple manufacturers when they release these devices, you as an owner of these various products would be able to pin point about "quality" - or the differentiator from other products (apart from pure GOOG experience)?
No?
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Any Nexus product, google works closely with the manufacture (supposedly), to give the best android experience. All my Nexus devices have worked how they should, and have been very pleased with the build quality, looks, and functionality. BUT like you said that's all subjective.
So really, the only quality you can probably go off of, is...... Nexus is what Google themselves use to develop and further the android platform..
This is tough. I own the Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, and Asus Transformer Prime.
The Nexus S and Galaxy Nexus were both made by Samsung, and I feel the quality of both of them were GREAT. Some complained they felt a little "plasticky," but I had no hardware problems at all with either.
The Prime...well....how do I put this....let me try it this way:
WORST. ELECTRONIC PURCHASE. OF. MY LIFE.
The problems in design (GPS didn't work b/c of the metal back and their "fix" was to remove GPS as a feature - the WiFi performance is also terrible), the low-quality hardware used (plenty of crappy displays with light bleed, LCD mura, and dead/stuck pixels), and the piss poor service (updates keep fixing one issue and breaking 3 others, RMA process that screws customers) have all left an incredibly sour taste in my mouth.
With that said, Google will be supporting this device, not Asus, so my service complaints mean nothing in regards to the Nexus 7. And I would hope that since this is Google's baby, they're keeping a close eye on it and Asus won't have a garbage design and garbage parts as a result, but we shall see.
I've had all the Google Experience Devices + all Nexus phones, build quality ranges by company. The reviews are good and Asus has been making some quality stuff as others have already mentioned.
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Nexus brand or not - this tablet is made by Asus.
Look to the Asus line of recent products for an indication of quality.
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This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.
My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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This right here. My Samsung Galaxy Nexus has been great. Personally being an owner of a 201 with issues (Dead GPS , wifi/BT issues), I'm going to wait on the Asus Nexus.. their brand is tarnished to me with what I've went through with them.
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It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.
I doubt if any manufacturer will put a metal back on a tablet again.
Asus sure seems to have learned with the RF-transparent back on the Nexus 7.
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It was all because of a design decision.
I had a 201 for about a week. It didn't have all those problems. My GPS would lock 11 birds if I was outside. I had decent wifi. I just couldn't stomach their repsonse to real problems. If they had just put an RF window on the back like the infinity pad, it wouldn't have had any issues. Since it was a one piece stamped frame/back cutting and making new parts would have cost too much.
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I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.
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I know all this already. The design decision doesn't bother me, in fact I bought it partly because of the looks. My problem is with the tablet not functioning 100% the way its supposed to compared to my other Android devices.
As for the company in general, don't even get me started, If it wasn't for me starting and maintaining a list and then sending it to the Asus product managers that check the 201 forums (and a certain user who has their ear who posted in here earlier) , at least 75 users including myself would probably still be waiting for our GPS extension kits when we signed up the first day, you can do a search of posts I created if you're interested in that whole debacle.
Main point I'm trying to make in a thread about quality, when I spend my money on a product I expect it to work. And my experience with their products has been far from what it is with my other devices.
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I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products. Their laptops are typically top of the line while also being cheaper than most of the competition and usually better. The original Transformer was the best tablet on the market until this year. Asus is a wonderful company. So they messed up with one device? Apparently they did try to fix it. They issued the GPS dongles to help fix the issue and apologized for the mess they created. And all I've heard from others is that they have fantastic customer service.
I'm glad that Google chose Asus to make the Nexus 7. They really were the most qualified. The original Transformer was easily the best last-generation tablet and the Infinity will be the best current-generation tablet. Google made a great choice.
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I think you're being way too hard on Asus. Whether you believe it or not, they make amazing products.
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Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.
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My Nexus S was a phenomenal device. I loved that damn phone. I plan on going back to a Nexus phone when the next gen model comes out.
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I agree. I am patiently awaiting the next Nexus phone.
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Well you spend $500+ on a tablet that performs worse than my dual core devices, and deal with the problems with Asus that I have and you would probably see it differently. Sure there are those who have had positive experiences, but I know I'm not the only one with my views, just spend a little time in the other forums. In the end the choice is yours.
If I had it to do all over again, would I rather spend $250 on an N7 than $650 on my 201 and dock? Absolutely.
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Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.
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Oh, I'm not saying that you shouldn't be mad. If I were you, I would be too. I'm just saying that you shouldn't bash the whole company and their products for the one faulty one that you happen to own.
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Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.
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Hah, if you would have actually read my post you would see I'm not "bashing" them on the device alone, but their service I recieved with the product as well. It shouldn't take me over a month to get into contact with someone to fix an issue... Again, you have your views, and I have mine... and I'm simply sharing my experience with the only Asus product I've wasted my money on so others can decide whether Asus quality is something they should spend their hard earned money on.
I'm really not trying to turn this thread into a pissing match. If you like Asus, and have had a good experience with them, that's awesome. I have not. And as much as I want to jump on an N7, the manufacturer Google went with more than likely cost them my sale as well as others who feel the same way I do. Honestly if you don't like my opinion, just add me to your ignore list.
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I definitely wasn't trying to start a pissing match, so I'm sorry if it seemed like I was. I'm just saying that out of all the Asus products I have heard of and/or actually used, the Prime is the only device than anyone has had a massive amount of trouble with. Otherwise, their track record is pretty much flawless.
I think for me the real selling point of this tablet is the Google name and the high visibility of the N7 launch as their entrance into the tablet market. The Nexus line is the flagship for Google and I've only ever heard good reviews from friends who own them.
I've owned devices with user bases too small to force a response on hardware issues and that's not going to be an issue here. If there is some sort of hardware or software fault, it's going to get publicity and it's going to get fixed.
Reports are saying they sold 4.5 million in a month (500k less than the note 3). The good news is it was released in most major markets only a week ago (thus skewing the results ). I think this will outsell the note 3 eventually inshalla:angel:
And Verizon, the largest carrier, has just started delivering today. That'll be a good bump. when added in.
Haha because note 4 is the best phablet
Note 4 rocks
I think it will cross Note 3 sales in few months
The numbers will increase once Samsung finally releases it to all the carriers
I agree it Will outsell the note 3
The number sold in the UK probably about 20 the way they are carrying on.
Does anyone know what is the manufacturing cost of each device?
Tech Insights estimates the cost production to 260$ per devices.
not only sold out in the middle east but it seems the us is following the trend too
http://www.techtimes.com/articles/1...verizon-sprint-att-amazon-best-buy-costco.htm
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Reports are saying they sold 4.5 million in a month (500k less than the note 3). The good news is it was released in most major markets only a week ago (thus skewing the results ). I think this will outsell the note 3 eventually inshalla:angel:
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Do you have shares in this company?
I don't think it wil do that well as people are getting fed up of plastic back and touchwiz. It lags and is one of the worst looking ui. Samsung need to get rid of touchwiz otherwise thus will lose more customers.
riz157 said:
Do you have shares in this company?
I don't think it wil do that well as people are getting fed up of plastic back and touchwiz. It lags and is one of the worst looking ui. Samsung need to get rid of touchwiz otherwise thus will lose more customers.
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Totally disagree with you. Plastic back means we can have replaceable batteries. Also I replace the back with a leather Montblanc.cover which in my view is better than nasty metal. Touchviz is needed for multi tasking and S Pen which are unique to Samsung. I get great use and value from all my plastic Note devices. Just sold my HTC M8 as metal is over rated.
^^ way to go to concentrate only on your perceived weaknesses of the note 4 and ignoring the obvious improvements they brought to the table?
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^^ way to go to concentrate only on your perceived weaknesses of the note 4 and ignoring the obvious improvements they brought to the table?
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Come on dude seriously one if the main factors people consider before buying is speed and design and not gimmicky flawed software which perhaps a very small percentage will use. Back in the early days there was only one phablet which was the note 2 and 3 but now the consumer has more to choose from. iPhone 6 plus has taken a massive share of that market with the very successful launch of the iPhone 6 plus. They've pretty much taken the limelight from samsung. Whilst samsung was asleep and being overconfident apple were busy designing and bringing a phone based upon demand.
Carry in this way and samsung will lose more and more customers because they're not being proactive but asleep.
Also with the upcoming nexus 6 samsung will take another hit.
Wow I didn't know apple made big steps with the iPhone 6 plus that they just copied from samsung and is just an oversized iPhone 6 (yes plenty of effort there). If the note 4 took a hit no wonder it's always sold out and people are always looking to buy it
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Come on dude seriously one if the main factors people consider before buying is speed and design and not gimmicky flawed software which perhaps a very small percentage will use. Back in the early days there was only one phablet which was the note 2 and 3 but now the consumer has more to choose from. iPhone 6 plus has taken a massive share of that market with the very successful launch of the iPhone 6 plus. They've pretty much taken the limelight from samsung. Whilst samsung was asleep and being overconfident apple were busy designing and bringing a phone based upon demand.
Carry in this way and samsung will lose more and more customers because they're not being proactive but asleep.
Also with the upcoming nexus 6 samsung will take another hit.
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This is a Note forum. If you don't like the device and don't have anything useful to contribute then create your own complaints and general FUD thread
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This is a Note forum. If you don't like the device and don't have anything useful to contribute then create your own complaints and general FUD thread
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I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
We get it you dont like samsung or lg now can u let us enjoy our notes?
riz157 said:
I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
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Nonsense. Wrong thread for the discussion you want. You make your own thread on your agenda. Don't sabotage someone else's thread.
riz157 said:
I thought i was contributing to this forum. Is it against the forum to provide more balanced argument then just fan boyish remarks.
Come on guys i wish there were more people providing real comments so.people can make a more informed desicion then get screwed by the marketing, ads, hype, fans etc. Save a buck.
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You are providing arguments which might suit a few samsung products, definitely not the note 4
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/note-4-sales-lower-than-early-note-3-interest
For the first time in history, the Note sold less phones than the previous generation. This is without a doubt due to the larger display phones from the obvious competitor, iPhone 6 plus.
If Apple continuous to improve phablet Iphones, and include a stylus, it will be the start of the end for the note series? you think?
The Note 4 was out of stock since day one here in France and most of the carriers haven't got their stock.
If it's the same in other country, I suppose sales figures are normal.
I think it's a lot because the Note 4 isn't really a big upgrade from the Note 3. There are also less differences between phones in general, upgrades aren't as interesting compared to e.g. 2 years ago. Market's getting saturated.
Its the first time they porbably cant produce note series its out of stock in everywhere. And in big markets note 4 sales started like 1 week ago.
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http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/note-4-sales-lower-than-early-note-3-interest
For the first time in history, the Note sold less phones than the previous generation. This is without a doubt due to the larger display phones from the obvious competitor, iPhone 6 plus.
If Apple continuous to improve phablet Iphones, and include a stylus, it will be the start of the end for the note series? you think?
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This is a great example of manipulation. They are comparing sales of note 3 in it's first month, to sales of note 4 which is out for less than two weeks.
I don't think so. Yes, the note was always the obvious choice for anyone wanting a large phone.... There is so much more choice of large phone these days, but the note is still unrivalled when it comes to that additional feature set that the s pen brings.
I dumped the note series last year when Samsung came in with Knox and region lock etc. A load of BS in my opinion.
However, the note still offers a lot more than the iphone 6 plus ever could
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This is extremely misleading. The Note 4 didn't roll out fully yet. Its only just currently rolling out in Western Europe, with huge markets like France getting it only last week. I've never been one to hate Apple, heck I use a Mac. But the new iPhone 6 plus is so far behind the note 4, there is no comparison, no threat, no competition.
as others have stated such a misleading article (and unverified at that).
only in south korea and china (i think) that the note 4 was released a full month
Lol they just started selling it few days ago worldwide!
And it's not even available in many countries, i can't buy it in mine!
"End of Note series?"... I can't!
Most likely it's supply issues to do with the hi-res AMOLED panels.
Whatever the case may be, it's ironic that this is even being brought up. Go back a month ago and read what the analysts were estimating for Apple's sales. Several were guessing that Apple sold LESS iPhone 6/6 Plus units that 5s units -- until Apple surprised everyone with their numbers. Until we hear from Sammy directly, I would hold off on pronouncing doom. These tech sites -- especially "trusted" reviews aren't necessarily bastions of reliability.
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Lol they just started selling it few days ago worldwide!
And it's not even available in many countries, i can't buy it in mine!
"End of Note series?"... I can't!
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even demo units are not available in saudi lol
Lol... what is a IPhone 6 Plus?
It's just a IPhone like all other iPhones. Just bigger, that's all.
No additional features... nothing.
Note Buyers want not only a bigger screen!!!
IPhone 6+ comparison with any Note Series is bull****.
My Siemens S1 from 1998 is bigger then my Note 4! Is it better? WTF... why I have sold it? (ironic)
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Still can't buy one here in Belgium. Stock has been delayed 2 times, so I guess sales shouldn't be that bad!
A fight broke out today in Apple's China facility. Witnesses say, 'It wasn't significantly different from any previous fights'.
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There is nothing stopping Samsung from creating a Brand New line if their sales start decreasing dramatically. It's the oldest trick in the book. Change the name, make it appear to be an all new product. I can say first hand that I love my Note 4, and it's by far the best phone I've had to date. I played with an iPhone 6 Plus in the store for about 20 minutes. I was bored out of my mind.
I can't even buy it and I'm in California
Hilarious article and thread. Hahaha! Ended.
I highly doubt that the iPhone 6+ will be the end of the Note series. The numbers can be deceiving. Maybe Samsung didn't sell as many Note 4s because the Note 3s were such a good phone and people didn't find as much of an urge to upgrade. Samsung may not have sold as many in the first few days as Apple, but maybe that is because apple fans will wait in line for weeks to get their new phones, where all of us are wiser and have better stuff to do and don't have time to waste like that. There are tons of places that are sold out. I had to wait for a week and a half before they had one in stock.
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This is without a doubt due to the larger display phones from the obvious competitor, iPhone 6 plus.
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One thing has nothing to do with the other. Large western markets and the high-end segment are saturated which is causing a sales and market share decline for all OEMs selling high-end products. Growth is in low and mid-range products in emerging markets where Samsung and Apple are both weaker and will make less unit profit if they pursue and compete against the Chinese and Indian OEMs. Both Apple and Samsung lost market share last quarter and will continue to in spite of the benefit of new high-end product launches which won't compensate for the far greater growth of other segments and regions.
As for phablets in general, they are a niche product and will continue to be outsold by smartphones through 2018 by a ratio of 2:1. Not every wants or will ever want a giant phone.
The iPhone 6 Plus was a horrible experience. Actually, ios 8 was a horrible experience.
It just.....didn't work.
Asus recently announced their new flagship at a pretty aggresive price, for around 500$ you're getting an S845 with a big 19:9 ratio screen, dual camera, nice design ( maybe ruined by the notch ), you think the 5Z can compete with the Oneplus 6 ?
My opinion is that it's an iPhone X clone, there's no way around that. However, it's priced competitively and undercuts several SD845 devices. The only downsides really, would be Asus' track record with major OS updates, as well as their skin. I had the ZF2 3yrs ago and wasn't fond of their UI.
I'm sort of fascinated by the design, but I'm worried about development being DOA and the BL being locked. Also I want the normal ZF5 with the SD660 if it's below $300.
the specs looks good in my opinion.
maybe the only downside was the UI and development. ZF3 and ZF4 got only few roms.
but the device is running android Oreo now.
I'm eyeing now this device because of the wide angle lens, maybe this will be my replacement for my LG G5. I'm hating LG now for having select variants with unlockable bootloader and poor quality of the device.
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the specs looks good in my opinion.
maybe the only downside was the UI and development. ZF3 and ZF4 got only few roms.
but the device is running android Oreo now.
I'm eyeing now this device because of the wide angle lens, maybe this will be my replacement for my LG G5. I'm hating LG now for having select variants with unlockable bootloader and poor quality of the device.
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In the US you have to buy the carrier free variant, but development is lackluster for LG phones now. V20 and G5 have some support, whereas previous LG models such as the G2-G4 saw more development. Sorta doubt things will pick up for the V30.
I'm hoping the ZF5's price will attract devs, especially those from oneplus devices.
icloned. I personally will never buy a device which is copy of an iPhone. During the presentation they seemed proud of it, heck they even called it the Fruit Phone X. Asus has just lost it, as has all the other OEMs who copy the Apple notch whether it be Moto, Vivo, Xiaomi, Oppo, LG. I would rather switch to Apple instead.
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In the US you have to buy the carrier free variant, but development is lackluster for LG phones now. V20 and G5 have some support, whereas previous LG models such as the G2-G4 saw more development. Sorta doubt things will pick up for the V30.
I'm hoping the ZF5's price will attract devs, especially those from oneplus devices.
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Hoping it also. :fingers-crossed:
Looking at price and specifications of the 5Z, as long as it's available with some kind of bootloader unlock then this is my preferred flagship beater. A single AOSP based rom like AICP or CRDroid for it and I'll be happy as long as we keep it up to date.
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Looking at price and specifications of the 5Z, as long as it's available with some kind of bootloader unlock then this is my preferred flagship beater. A single AOSP based rom like AICP or CRDroid for it and I'll be happy as long as we keep it up to date.
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This!
This phone looks like really good hardware and actually from what little ice read, I'm seeing that Asus have gone a lot closer to stock with the software as well.
If the bootloader can be easily unlocked then all it needs is one AOSP ROM (which given it will be treble enabled shouldn't be too hard) and we are a go.
I really do think this will be a good device for them. With treble being mandatory for all phones shipping with Android 8, it should take away a lot of anxiety from manufacturers who provide poor software updates as long as the bootloader can be unlocked
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well. we could ask the devs from ZF3 and ZF4 @planet9 @shakalaca @anhenrique if they will get the ZF5.
Looking forward for zenphone 5 with s636 price around below 400 and BL unlocked and source code release!
Seriously drooling over this 5z the specs are killer, as far as the notch I could care less that it resembles a essential p1. The specs the aspect ratio is spot on. Think it may be my next device after it's been out for a few months and see how it rolls. Hopefully Asus keeps the major updates coming for it and a place in the modding community. That sd845 tho.
I am considering this device. It seems to tick all of my boxes. I do wish it was waterproof, but for the price I'm strongly considering it anyways. Does anyone know Asus reputation with RF performance?
Ascertion said:
I am considering this device. It seems to tick all of my boxes. I do wish it was waterproof, but for the price I'm strongly considering it anyways. Does anyone know Asus reputation with RF performance?
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What's RF..???
Addition : RF performance is pretty good.
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What's RF..???
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I think it's radio frequency, ie if this phone gets good phone reception.
There is also SAR (specific Absorbtion Rate). This is something that measures how much radiation a phone outputs to your body when the phone is at a certain distance. This is something that should be spoken about more. Phones can up the power for a better signal but it should be the optimisation of phone strength without outputting more radiation into your body.
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I think it's radio frequency, ie if this phone gets good phone reception.
There is also SAR (specific Absorbtion Rate). This is something that measures how much radiation a phone outputs to your body when the phone is at a certain distance. This is something that should be spoken about more. Phones can up the power for a better signal but it should be the optimisation of phone strength without outputting more radiation into your body.
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Thanks for telling about about RF. And I knew about SAR, still:good:
My asus zenfone has heating issue. It is getting hot after 10 ,15 min
If this were offered in a Google Play Edition I would jump all over it. ASUS bloat and support, no thanks.
Asus told me via their FB account, that USB2.0 stated on GSM arena is incorrect. So afterall there is hope, that the SD636 version will be one of the first midrangers with proper USB3.1 with all its perks!
I just wish, that asus doesn't screw up something on the phone, because so far it looks like a killer phone.
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Asus told me via their FB account, that USB2.0 stated on GSM arena is incorrect. So afterall there is hope, that the SD636 version will be one of the first midrangers with proper USB3.1 with all its perks!
I just wish, that asus doesn't screw up something on the phone, because so far it looks like a killer phone.
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The Moto Z3 Play will include the same SOC, so we'll see. I'm unsure of when the 5 will release outside of Asia, but they need to move quickly.
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If this were offered in a Google Play Edition I would jump all over it. ASUS bloat and support, no thanks.
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I don't think so. look at their Zenfone 3 models its already running android Oreo unlike other companies that still stuck on nougat.
So I've watched many reviews of this phone, and I must admit I think the reviewers are just being "tech snobs" about this one. Yeah the "P4" doesn't have the biggest battery, or the brightest screen, but for what it has, it works well for me. Every review I've watched is not a real review but instead a comparison of P4 against some other device that it seems the reviewer is more biased for. Example, why are we comparing the p4 against the iPhone 11, yes the iPhone is cheaper, however its a whole other eco-system and operating system that if a consumer is checking that out they probably aren't interested in pixels anyway. Also why is it compared to the Oneplus devices, yeah the specs for those look really good on paper but its also priced and specified to make a name for OnePlus also besides T-Mobile and online where can I really walk into a store and buy a OnePlus anything? Then its compared to Note10 and S10, again .. why? The P4 is a good device, its not the greatest spec'd thing out, but the reviews are not doing any justice for it at all. I personally have owned almost every US flagship in all of their variants (besides OnePlus) and the Pixel 4 (not the XL) I'm finding is the most satisfactory for me, I just wished face unlock was added only and the radar stuff was omitted until more functions were ready for prime time, but otherwise I really think that in day to day usage for the average consumer, not a tech enthusiast the P4 will work out just fine. As far as pricing, ask yourself what phone have you owned that was ever priced how you want it, lol in my world all these devices should only be $1.99 but since this isn't my world every phone that comes out will always be priced T.G.D.H. (see a Flossy Carter review for the meaning of that acronym)
Yep.
I bought a P4 to go with my S10.
The S10 is a fine phone, but I love pure Android.