So I recently updated my Note 9 to Pie (May update), honestly I am satisfied with the update, phone feels smooth, lots of customizations with good lock, battery life is about the same as in Oreo.
The only problem that's bothering me is RAM management, apps don't stay open in background as they used to on Oreo even if I always have 2GB of free RAM at least. I have disabled all sorts of power saving features, tried a magisk module for better RAM management but it's still bad.
Is there any solution for better RAM management? Root or non-root?
Thanks.
Rojrijo8 said:
So I recently updated my Note 9 to Pie (May update), honestly I am satisfied with the update, phone feels smooth, lots of customizations with good lock, battery life is about the same as in Oreo.
The only problem that's bothering me is RAM management, apps don't stay open in background as they used to on Oreo even if I always have 2GB of free RAM at least. I have disabled all sorts of power saving features, tried a magisk module for better RAM management but it's still bad.
Is there any solution for better RAM management? Root or non-root?
Thanks.
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have you changed default settings of the 2 settings in the screen shot attached?(default settings are as per the image)
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have you changed default settings of the 2 settings in the screen shot attached?(default settings are as per the image)
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Thanks for your reply.
No I haven't changed them, the values are the same as the ones in your screenshot.
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Thanks for your reply.
No I haven't changed them, the values are the same as the ones in your screenshot.
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since updating from v8 to v9 is not a proper clean start. u might want to contemplate wiping data and cache in recovery mode and start fresh from v9 instead .
shouldn't be different but you might also consider flashing latest firmware again ontop( just dont forget to wipe data first then flash.)
its always best to start fresh than to use a phone that go updated and still has all the clutter from previous version.
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since updating from v8 to v9 is not a proper clean start. u might want to contemplate wiping data and cache in recovery mode and start fresh from v9 instead .
shouldn't be different but you might also consider flashing latest firmware again ontop( just dont forget to wipe data first then flash.)
its always best to start fresh than to use a phone that go updated and still has all the clutter from previous version.
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I started fresh with Pie, had everything wiped and started from 0. I noticed that some other users on reddit had the same issue, but haven't came across a solution yet.
Rojrijo8 said:
I started fresh with Pie, had everything wiped and started from 0. I noticed that some other users on reddit had the same issue, but haven't came across a solution yet.
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humm. so put me into context a bit more
how many apps in the background and how long does it take for it to reload.
and what exact build(or custom rom) are u on and what device model.
bober10113 said:
humm. so put me into context a bit more
how many apps in the background and how long does it take for it to reload.
and what exact build(or custom rom) are u on and what device model.
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I have the Exynos variant N960F, I'm on Pie May update and I am rooted with Magisk.
I don't have many apps in the background as I use Greenify to hibernate apps that I don't want to be running in background, as I said I usually have around 2GB of free RAM most of the time.
Now when I was on Oreo, I used to have for instance PS App open in background (meaning I exit with the back button not home button) and a few hours laters or even after opening lots of apps later, when I go back to that app, it doesn't have to reload. Now this is not the case with Pie, if I do the same, I would have to reload it, it's not that it takes time to reload but it's just annoying to have lots of free RAM yet you have to reload apps every hour or so.
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I have the Exynos variant N960F, I'm on Pie May update and I am rooted with Magisk.
I don't have many apps in the background as I use Greenify to hibernate apps that I don't want to be running in background, as I said I usually have around 2GB of free RAM most of the time.
Now when I was on Oreo, I used to have for instance PS App open in background (meaning I exit with the back button not home button) and a few hours laters or even after opening lots of apps later, when I go back to that app, it doesn't have to reload. Now this is not the case with Pie, if I do the same, I would have to reload it, it's not that it takes time to reload but it's just annoying to have lots of free RAM yet you have to reload apps every hour or so.
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well u do know what greenify does rrright?
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well u do know what greenify does rrright?
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Yes I do, and none of the apps that I want to be running in background are Greenified of course. In fact I have the same apps + settings that I used to have on Oreo as I restored them fully after rooting, the only thing that's different is the updated OS.
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Yes I do, and none of the apps that I want to be running in background are Greenified of course. In fact I have the same apps + settings that I used to have on Oreo as I restored them fully after rooting, the only thing that's different is the updated OS.
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how about uninstalling greenify just for the heck of it and seeing if that dosent fix ure issues.
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how about uninstalling greenify just for the heck of it and seeing if that dosent fix ure issues.
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Sure, I'll give it a go and see what happens. Thanks.
I have the same problem too, recent apps are closed by itself no matter what battery optimization you do for the apps that you don't want to close.
I just noticed every time it happens it just keeps the last 5 apps used opened and close the old ones.
You can also try to go to device care and then battery then on the upper right hand side the three dots then settings, there turn off put unused apps to sleep. Maybe this can help you.
That dont work mate ,there is no fix trust me.pie closes your recent apps list over night regardless of what setting you use.ive given up trying to keep my favourite apps in the recent apps menu.i just hope Samsung fixes it .but nobody other than me and a few others really want it fixed.most people dont care that all there apps get closed over night apart from 3 or 4 that stay.its terrible
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Hi Everyone,I am new to the forum(But following it from many days)
As the title suggests, after I updated the firmware through Official LG PC Suite, i am experiencing massive lags.
Used RAM is always at approx 700 Mb. Opening more than 1 tab in Chrome phone lag badly. There are launcher redraws and much more.
Tried a factory reset but it made no difference.
Usually wiping cache, valpik and resetting to factory settings before flashing solves the problem, and most of the time its an app, usually a battery saver app with permissions to modify CPU speeds that causes this.
Also please stop capitalizing each and every word in you sentence. It's not a title!
elfen.lied said:
Usually wiping cache, valpik and resetting to factory settings before flashing solves the problem, and most of the time its an app, usually a battery saver app with permissions to modify CPU speeds that causes this.
Also please stop capitalizing each and every word in you sentence. It's not a title!
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Thanks for your quick reply. I do not have any battery saver app. I did not factory reset the device before updating.
LG 4X HD said:
Thanks for your quick reply. I do not have any battery saver app. I did not factory reset the device before updating.so what can i do now? Also i may sound dumb but what is valpik??
Btw,thanks for your suggestion on my writing.
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You should carry out a factory reset AFTER the upgrade. Wiping cache and dalvik (not valpik) cache is done from a custom recovery, which I preusme you have not installed on your phone?
Same problem.... I reflashed kdz v20a ,after that I did factory reset...used backup to restore filles...
rakakak said:
Same problem.... I reflashed kdz v20a ,after that I did factory reset...used backup to restore filles...
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Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
LG 4X HD said:
Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
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Your not using uk v20a are you? I'm having real problems with it and I can not set cpu speeds. They just keep reverting back to original or 51mhz. I need help with this.
LG 4X HD said:
Did this solved your problem
@Simon, i did a factory reset after the update but nothing changed.
Also users who are not experiencing any lag,do tell how much RAM Is in used and free.
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No....still lags
Yes, I was using the UK version and didn't see any problems, but didn't try to change the CPU speeds.
Now running CM, so can't confirm for you.
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Hi Everyone,I Am New To The Forum(But Following It From Many Days)
As The Title Suggests,After I Updated the Firmware Through Official LG PC Suite,Phone is Lagging Too Much.I Know That There Is Already A Similar Thread But It Seemed To Be Dead.
Used RAM Is Always at approx 700 Mb.Opening More Than 1 tab in Chrome Lags the Whole Phone.If I Press The Home Button,Then All icons And Widgets Disappear And Slowly Build Up Again.Tap On Apps Button And It Takes 3 Second To Open The List.Phone Lags In Almost All Areas.
As Suggested By Some Other Members,I Tried To Factory Reset Phone But It Did Not Help.Someone Please Give A Solution,
Btw,Before Updating To Jelly Bean,I Was Not Rooted.Nor I am Now Rooted.Please Give A Easy Solution As I Don't Know Much About Flashing,etc.
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I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
Emmanuel2000 said:
I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
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So,this is the only way to get rid of lag? Would V20b solve it? I do not want to rollback to ics because i am new to these things and do not know how to do it perfectly.
Emmanuel2000 said:
I suggest you go back to ics like i did. jellybean is full of crap and ram usage is always high for no reason.
If not. then root the phone and freeze some apps, disable others and uninstall the ones you don't use. to keep your launcher from redrawing then force it into memory with ro.HOME_APP_ADJ=1 paste this at the end of your build.prop in system folder.
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Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
SimonTS said:
Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
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I followed instructions correctly maybe i am the one of the unlucky people??
Btw,how much RAM Is used and free in your device?
SimonTS said:
Not got a problem with my phone on v20a, nor have most people.
Suggests to me that some people don't follow the instructions correctly or are just very unlucky.
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the only way you can follow instructions incorrectly is if you brick the phone... and i found a lot of issues with jb mainly performance.
Lagg is resolved with a factory reset. Dont restore your files and apps just install them again after factory reset! Not all files and apss from ICS have same settings and functionality on JB so that can lead to lagg..
RAM is here to be used,if RAM isnt used then your phone isnt performing his full potential! If RAM isnt used that means that apps in the phone are not working,so when you open them you will get lagg because they have to start up every time..Some apps drain battery so you can grenify them but apps have to run for your phone to be fully exploited!
brunek said:
Lagg is resolved with a factory reset. Dont restore your files and apps just install them again after factory reset! Not all files and apss from ICS have same settings and functionality on JB so that can lead to lagg..
RAM is here to be used,if RAM isnt used then your phone isnt performing his full potential! If RAM isnt used that means that apps in the phone are not working,so when you open them you will get lagg because they have to start up every time..Some apps drain battery so you can grenify them but apps have to run for your phone to be fully exploited!
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I did the same thing(made factory reset without restoring old apps) but the phone is still lagging do not know why.
Btw,can i get to know how much ram usage is normal in jb??
LG 4X HD said:
I did the same thing(made factory reset without restoring old apps) but the phone is still lagging do not know why.
Btw,can i get to know how much ram usage is normal in jb??
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You should install through LGFlash Tool for the cleanest install, after that root and install your apps again. It's a pain in the ass but, the best way... About ram, if it's being used, the phone performance is better but that might reflects in the battery life. I use to close all processes after use the phone and my battery life is very good, the delay to access the apps 1st time after being stopped is about half of a second, soo... I can live with that.
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Seems to me that as long as you have all the default services running, you hit less than some limit of ram, or a period of inactivity, and the OS preemtively starts garbage-collecting programs in mem - among others, the launcher/homescreen app. Makes sense, more or less, to do that. Because it'll free up priority for apps that don't actually receive input (such as the launcher screen).
But on the other hand, homescreens can contain lots of apps, and could take more than 5 seconds to load, so not such a brilliant idea to destroy the cache. Meanwhile, services you never use tend to poll the system on their own, and suddenly they're treated with more attention than the programs you're actually using..
Seems the running programs being replaced by fifty useless services is less of a problem the more free ram you have, though.
And that's why a lot of "garbage" was un-installed on my device (other users made the same).
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RuedasLocas said:
You should install through LGFlash Tool for the cleanest install, after that root and install your apps again. It's a pain in the ass but, the best way...
Sent from my LG-P880 using xda app-developers app
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Sorry for really dumb question but by lg flash tool,you mean that b2c mobile support tool,available on lg website?
Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
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Afternoon peeps,
Recently my Mini 2 has just ground to an unusable, good-for-nothing pile of crap.
- It is soooo slow to do anything.
- It rotates the screen when it's not being rotated.
- It locks in the middle of performing tasks.
- It blacks out for 30 seconds or so before becoming responsive again.
- Voice on Google Maps or Runkeeper apps keeps glitching.
I'm running CM12 [12-20150411-NIGHTLY-memul] with TWRP recovery.
Reinstalling the ROM returns the phone to a normal function, temporarily, before descending into chaos.
Clearing the cache partition sort of works....for a little while.
I/O Scheduler is ROW.
Storage isn't anywhere near full with 3.65Gb free.
Available RAM is on average about 170Mb
My thoughts are that an app is causing this.
Can anyone throw some troubleshooting ideas into the pot?
Thanks
E
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Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble
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Clearing cache and ram just makes it worst as Android works different from PC's.
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Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
kativiti said:
It seems you're in the good path as just need to find what APP is doing that. Providing that you run CM12 without extras and its ok, than try install/uninstall one app at the time until you find the one its causing trouble to
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I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again
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Thanks for the response. With reagrd to the above, How so?
I thought that might be the case. Also, I'm gettimg a lot of Background App crashes/Not responding, but there're no patterns. OneFootball, Media Storage, System UI, Google+, Facebook Messenger all make an appearance.
I think i may have to start from a fresh again
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Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.
kativiti said:
Well CM12 its a bit buggy so if you gonna run high end apps i suggest stock ROM.
Regarding RAM, android manages that pretty well for you. The more ram in use, the better things work. (if you know how RAM works) same thing with cache. So don't use stupid programs to clear RAM as they are useless.
You can google for more info.
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Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?
..eredn.. said:
Interesting, the reason I'm on CM with this HTC is because the Stock ROM also showed the same symptoms, so I moved to CM to try to cure. I really liked the stock UI and was reluctant to move away from it.
I do know RAM and that does make sense - more stuff in RAM = quicker access to resouces, but surely its still a good troubleshooting step to clear down if these problems arise?
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Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.
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Like i said, Android will clear the apps when it need to open resources for another.
Reading back your posts, you might need to do full re-installation .
If you install Google Apps bundle, start with re-flashing that. if still no good then go for the all ROM.
But you say that it also happened with stock rom so finding the app that's causing that its crucial.
Also note the apps that stay open in the background (click the 2 Squares) only nine stay open but all you need its a game to keep eating all the resources.
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I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.
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I've begun by uninstalling OneFootball and Facebook and performance has improved somewhat. This might be quite a long process as im going go leave a day or so between each action.
I have fully reinstalled before, but selected to restore data and apps from backup. Maybe I'll try setting up as a new device if it comes to it. Want to avoid that tho.
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Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).
MikkelJakobsen said:
Did you find a solution? I'm facing about the same issue with my HTC One Mini 2 after installing CM12. It ran perfectly smooth in the beginning but now it is soooo slow and it takes forever to load almost any apps (especially Facebook and Snapchat).
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I think it's either Facebook or Facebook Messenger, probably more messenger.
I first uninstalled Facebook Messenger and performance improved. Still a little glitchy, but much better.
Then I uninstalled Facebook. Not much change.
Facebook is now reinstalled, but messenger isn't and I've been happier with the phone.
I'm still getting some background apps crashing, but not as much as before uninstalling FB messenger.
Not really a 'solution' as it could be different for you, but as mentioned previously, start uninstalling an app at a time. Leave a few days inbetween so you can tell if it changed anything. If not, reinstall and try again.
Same issue here with mini 2..i dont have facebook or that football app
Hi all,
I have been using Moto G2 since October 2014 a year ago I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM 12 and now using CM 13. In the first few days, the performance of the phone is good but as days are passing the performance keeps on slowing down. I'm now using a 32gb sd card also I have moved most of the apps to sd card but still the problem persists.I clean the cache memory from the "Storage and USB" option in settings and have been using Ccleaner for a long time now but I see no improvements what should I do?
Should I switch to any other ROM or is there any app causing the problem?
Or should I revert back to stock ROM?
Problems I'm facing:--
1. Slow loading of settings
2. Apps becoming unresponsive(these were the apps which used to run smoothly).
3. If 5-6 apps are open the home screen takes 10-12 second to load all the shortcut icons.
And there are some other issues.
Pls help me out with this ASAP is anyone else facing the same issue?
Thanks for reading.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
rootb3r said:
Hi all,
I have been using Moto G2 since October 2014 a year ago I unlocked the bootloader and flashed CM 12 and now using CM 13. In the first few days, the performance of the phone is good but as days are passing the performance keeps on slowing down. I'm now using a 32gb sd card also I have moved most of the apps to sd card but still the problem persists.I clean the cache memory from the "Storage and USB" option in settings and have been using Ccleaner for a long time now but I see no improvements what should I do?
Should I switch to any other ROM or is there any app causing the problem?
Or should I revert back to stock ROM?
Problems I'm facing:--
1. Slow loading of settings
2. Apps becoming unresponsive(these were the apps which used to run smoothly).
3. If 5-6 apps are open the home screen takes 10-12 second to load all the shortcut icons.
And there are some other issues.
Pls help me out with this ASAP is anyone else facing the same issue?
Thanks for reading.:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
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Hi! After years of suffering with 1 ghz mono core and 403mbs of RAM here are my tips:
What's causing all this is the low amount of RAM available on the Moto G in comparison to other devices. 1gb is really pushing the limits nowadays. So you'll have to compensate for that. The only way to do that is by making it so that you can't multi-task that well but the app you're on atm runs great.
1. Get Kernel Aduitor, go to Low RAM Killer and set it to aggressive. This should already make it a lot faster.
2. Reduce background activities by disabling unused sync operations. Go to Settings>Accounts and then check them all one by one and disable sync for whatever isn't needed.
3. Get a Custom Kernel. Always a good idea.
If this all doesn't help there is one last option. Go to Developer Options and scroll to the bottom. You will find some options for background activities. Set it so that it doesn't keep anything in memory.
If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating.
Also ,you should remove CCleaner and also any task killing app. They cause issues and slow downs.
Best of luck!
Chris.
ehm, try this....
dismount SDcard, maybe its broken, reflash ROM, with full wipe, data, cache, system.
only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard.
chrismin13 said:
Hi! After years of suffering with 1 ghz mono core and 403mbs of RAM here are my tips:
What's causing all this is the low amount of RAM available on the Moto G in comparison to other devices. 1gb is really pushing the limits nowadays. So you'll have to compensate for that. The only way to do that is by making it so that you can't multi-task that well but the app you're on atm runs great.
1. Get Kernel Aduitor, go to Low RAM Killer and set it to aggressive. This should already make it a lot faster.
2. Reduce background activities by disabling unused sync operations. Go to Settings>Accounts and then check them all one by one and disable sync for whatever isn't needed.
3. Get a Custom Kernel. Always a good idea.
If this all doesn't help there is one last option. Go to Developer Options and scroll to the bottom. You will find some options for background activities. Set it so that it doesn't keep anything in memory.
If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating.
Also ,you should remove CCleaner and also any task killing app. They cause issues and slow downs.
Best of luck!
Chris.
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"If that doesn't help, then one of your apps is causing issues, start investigating."
How to investigate which app is consuming a lot of CPU and RAM?
Which custom kernel is the best?
Which kernel would you suggest?
Thannks for the reply.
marianoasis said:
ehm, try this....
dismount SDcard, maybe its broken, reflash ROM, with full wipe, data, cache, system.
only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard.
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"only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard" for how many days should i not use other apps like WhatsApp,reddit,instagram etc.. also i have some educational apps what about them?
Go for Hologen or Extended Kernel @rootb3r
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"only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard" for how many days should i not use other apps like WhatsApp,reddit,instagram etc.. also i have some educational apps what about them?
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ehm read again what i said. only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard... AND TRY IT WITHOUT SDCARD... where i said DO NOT INSTALL ANY APP?
marianoasis said:
ehm read again what i said. only flash rom and gapps, and try it without SDcard... AND TRY IT WITHOUT SDCARD... where i said DO NOT INSTALL ANY APP?
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Okay bro.
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Okay bro.
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maybe the sdcard its broken, this make the lag, because use RAM to read it
Op3T, stock. Android 8.0.0/Oxygen OS 5.0.6
I have a couple of apps that I need to be running all the time. Namely an app from my Insurance co that monitors driving and a Cisco Jabber app (chat). What keeps happening, is that the apps keep getting killed or restarted when they are in the background. Happens anywhere between 20 and 40 (or sometimes more) minutes.
Advanced optimization is off and both apps are set to "don't optimize" in battery options. Other things run in the background just fine - Gmail, WhatsApp, Messenger, Outlook, etc. all get notifications.
Is there another setting, besides optimization, that controls this?
On OxygenOS you can try the padlock icon on recent apps menu
Thanks. I thought that icon was to lock the screen to specific app. Will try and see what happens.
przemcio510 said:
On OxygenOS you can try the padlock icon on recent apps menu
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I think that solved it. Thank you!
przemcio510 said:
On OxygenOS you can try the padlock icon on recent apps menu
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That's the one thing i miss from OOS (Nougat). That padlock really kept things in Recents, and probably memory too. I've not found it useful at all on Oreo custom ROMs. It doesn't seem to do anything at all!
Dirk said:
That's the one thing i miss from OOS (Nougat). That padlock really kept things in Recents, and probably memory too. I've not found it useful at all on Oreo custom ROMs. It doesn't seem to do anything at all!
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Yeah, me too, it is most probably not implemented. I tried several things to make some apps stay in memory, but unfortunately I can't get it to work. On OOS I could lock i.e. Dialer in memory and repoen it 2 days later without reloading. No custom ROM can do this.
It seems that it doesn't want to work on OOS Oreo, too. I try to keep 7-10 apps always alive in background and some of them stay in memory, but these most important (Dialer, Contacts) won't. I don't know what happens, but I'm really considering downgrading to Nougat. Why do we have 6 GB RAM if we can't even properly utilize it?
I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!
veezybaybee said:
Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
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If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.
miststudent2011 said:
If its non Chinese variant you can simply change launcher there is no need to afraid about it.And updates wont be effected.
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I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!
veezybaybee said:
I have an Indian version of Honor 10 Lite. And I am using a different launcher already. So you are saying, I can disable or uninstall the stock launcher and the updates wont be affected? You sure?
I wrote about this to Honor India's official page in Facebook before few minutes. And their reply was quite typical. They wanted me to turn off the android system and transition animations to free up the ram and stuffs. I clearly told them that this was a memory management issue as others described it. But they gave me this irrelevant reply!
I just bought this phone. I mean its just been 2 days. I really dont wish to regret my decision now. The recent apps keeps reloading every time I switch them. Its ridiculous!
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I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.
miststudent2011 said:
I have Honor 10 and I use different launcher other than Stock and its works fine and ota too work.
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Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!
veezybaybee said:
Yeah, thats what I said too. I am using another launcher apart from the stock "Huawei Home". I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
A lot of people have said that uninstalling the stock launcher will free up a lot of RAM and also enable the Oreo styled recent apps card list which will solve this app reloading issue!
I just contacted the Huawei customer care and a lady advised me to record the whole issue and send the video to their service email address. I have shared this EMUI 9.0 issue faced by others as a feedback to them too. Hope they will fix this in the upcoming update!
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I have not disabled or uninstalled the stock launcher yet. Shall I do that? That is what i am asking!
Yes, you can if any issue happens you can just reset your phone it will be back to normal.
veezybaybee said:
I recently bought the Honor 10 Lite and everything, from its looks to the performance has impressed me. However, I noticed a very frustrating issue with the "recent apps" function. Every time I try to switch to another app from the list, it reloads all over again instead of opening it in the way it was left.
I did my research and found that tons of other users using EMUI 9.0 or above are facing this and it is happening due to Memory Management. I found and tried all the alternative solutions like lowering the screen resolution, changing the "App Launch" settings to Manual in the battery options, disabling the apps from the "Battery Optimization" settings from the Special Access menu etc. but none of it works. Some have also mentioned to Disable or Uninstall the stock launcher to get back to the Oreo style Recent App card list as a solution. But I am scared to do that, as it can affect the future updates for sure.
It seems like our phone's forum hasn't been quite active so far. Its obvious as its a new device and people are yet to find and talk about issues here. Anyway, there is surely a memory leak which is causing all this. The remaining memory is always below 1 gb which is unusual in a phone with 4 gb of RAM. And it is due to this, the apps are being reloaded in the Recent Apps list to free up more RAM! I really hope Honor will look into this and find a solution in the upcoming update!
Please share your opinion or help out if you are facing the same too. Thanks!
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Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.
Alright I got it working more or less by uninstalling Huawei home via adb. it's not perfect (3-4 keep open mostly), but with the switch to card style in recent apps it finally feels not as sluggish as before anymore.
Muthzer the One said:
Hey,
I can confirm this. I've got a model having 3 gb ram. I am using Microsoft Launcher and deactivated everything related to battery to test it out.
1. Closed all my apps via recent apps
2. Then I opened a folder in ES Explorer and went back to homescreen.
3. I went into gallery and watched a video for 60 seconds, back to homescreen.
4. I went into Facebook and read an article for 60 seconds.
5. Going back to Es Explorer (No matter via Homescreen or recent tabs) makes it reload completely.
This definitely is not related to not having enough RAM.
I also can't deactivate my Huawei home, it is greyed out. Right now i am seriously starting to hate that phone.
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Remove battery saving mode or some apps automatically optimized by phone manager or other solution is to keep that app in app assistant or game mode. UI is made for battery optimization and ram management otherwise you have got stock android
I have this problem too! It's so annoying. The phone is perfect besidd this problem