Redmi K20 (Mi 9T) VS Samsung A70 - Samsung Galaxy A70 Guides, News, & Discussion

https://youtu.be/aJ7H2SN2VsA
If you watched the video you can clearly see that both phones have same brightness level yet the A70 screen looks much brighter and better than K20's screen which is dim and has ugly red tint. Samsung used a a very high quality amoled panel in the A70, the best I have seen in this price range. A70 also has bigger screen, bigger battery, and performance is great. It's downside is the ugly outdated back design and build materials. K20 has notchless display but look how thick the phone is. A70 is much thinner and sleek. I think the A70 is the winner.
I might be biased since I own the A70 :laugh: Still the superiority of A70's AMOLED screen is undeniable and it's the main reason why I choose Samsung phones over other brands.
Bottom line: Not all AMOLED screens are created equal! Chinese phones use cheaper lower quality amoleds.
What do you think? :fingers-crossed:

I think the back of the a70 is really nice and does every thing I want it too just a shame the back srat he's so easy

the mi 9t is 300€ in france or 350€ depends on deals.

Sufyan3D said:
https://youtu.be/aJ7H2SN2VsA
If you watched the video you can clearly see that both phones have same brightness level yet the A70 screen looks much brighter and better than K20's screen which is dim and has ugly red tint. Samsung used a a very high quality amoled panel in the A70, the best I have seen in this price range. A70 also has bigger screen, bigger battery, and performance is great. It's downside is the ugly outdated back design and build materials. K20 has notchless display but look how thick the phone is. A70 is much thinner and sleek. I think the A70 is the winner.
I might be biased since I own the A70 :laugh: Still the superiority of A70's AMOLED screen is undeniable and it's the main reason why I choose Samsung phones over other brands.
Bottom line: Not all AMOLED screens are created equal! Chinese phones use cheaper lower quality amoleds.
What do you think? :fingers-crossed:
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you are probably right. just like lcd screens, big difference between LG and XIAOMI ones.
but at least k20 has gorilla glass 5. a70 has version 3.
it always gonna be a trade off...

thalesbraga said:
you are probably right. just like lcd screens, big difference between LG and XIAOMI ones.
but at least k20 has gorilla glass 5. a70 has nothing.
it always gonna be a trade off...
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A70 has gorilla glass 3

Yes you r right my source site was wrong.
Good to know
Also loving this battery life... way better than s10+

So a70 or mi 9t
I still prefer Samsung a70 over mi 9t
Special regards the display

I have no problem with the back of the phone i'm using a case anyway or after a month i will find tiny scratches everywhere even if the back is metal

Im currently debating between mi 9t or a70.
Which phone has better camera and video quality.
Can someone give me a hand?

Xiaomi mi 9T is the better device to me and yes I have both.

K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...

senseijtitus said:
K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...
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128GB is enough for my needs
Both displays are fine
Both Phones have great battery life.
I'm currently intersted which phone has better camera/video quality.

senseijtitus said:
K20 has its disadvantages....
No expandable storage capacity..
Screen size...
Battery life...
These 3 are the ones which made me go for a70 rather than any other phone...
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These are not Disadvantages
64gb or 128gb expandable storage is a personal preference.
Screen size is a personal preference screen on the a70 could be to big for some.
Battery is great on both back to screen smaller less battery consumption.
Disadvantage a70 sd675, glastic back that scratches easily, oh and one low speaker I have to crack it to the max most of the time.

dante_99 said:
128GB is enough for my needs
Both displays are fine
Both Phones have great battery life.
I'm currently intersted which phone has better camera/video quality.
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Camera as of now, go with redmi. But gcam support for a70 is very much possible with dev's almost done with source codes...
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hands0m3 said:
These are not Disadvantages
64gb or 128gb expandable storage is a personal preference.
Screen size is a personal preference screen on the a70 could be to big for some.
Battery is great on both back to screen smaller less battery consumption.
Disadvantage a70 sd675, glastic back that scratches easily, oh and one low speaker I have to crack it to the max most of the time.
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Well, plastic back is actually preferable with larger phones because of the risk of accidental drop. And to be honest, a70 performs pretty good as well. And it is perfectly slim and anyone can hold this phone in his/her hand without problem. One hand usage is pretty awesome.
The speaker volume is good enough. But plug in a good mid tire headset, its amazingly good...

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OP3T vs S7/S7 edge?

So I will be switching to T-Mobile here very shortly. I was really eyeing up the OnePlus 3T, but noticed I could get an S7 or even some S7 Edges for around the same price on Swappa. I'm really not a fan of the bloat on the Samsung's, but for around the same price with better camera and waterproofing, I'm really torn between the two. Thoughts?
Jonnyshatter said:
So I will be switching to T-Mobile here very shortly. I was really eyeing up the OnePlus 3T, but noticed I could get an S7 or even some S7 Edges for around the same price on Swappa. I'm really not a fan of the bloat on the Samsung's, but for around the same price with better camera and waterproofing, I'm really torn between the two. Thoughts?
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S7 Edge if you prefer screen and camera.....if software is only your preference..then Oneplus 3T....
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S7 Edge if you prefer screen and camera.....if software is only your preference..then Oneplus 3T....
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I ended up just snagging an S7 Edge on Swappa for a real good price. I like the OP3(T)'s software comminity, but currently having a Droid Turbo (basically no root) I got out of the habit of flashing all the time. I'll take the better camera, waterproofing, and micro USB over USB C dash charging and the dev community. Shame on me, I know haha
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
s3axel said:
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
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Yeah I do like the micro SD slot as well, although it's not a deal-breaker. Never really used wireless charging as I always put a good case on my phone, and it's usually just a tad too thick to make the connection; so cable charging isn't any issue. I realize USB C will eventually become more widespread, but with me already having Qualcomm 2.0 chargers and a power bank, the change wouldn't be as smooth.
I travel for work and take a lot of pictures, so I am really looking forward to the low-light performance, but I agree Samsung's phone do oversaturate their photos somewhat.
I live in the US so I'm stuck with the Snapdragon processor
Thought the OP3T battery is only 3400, and S7 edge 3600
s3axel said:
I am in the same boat, in a way
I owned an OP3 and got an S7 Edge from a contract upgrade and was curious to see how both compare for me.
The 64GB of the OP3 were a tad to small for me, the S7 Edge with its expandable storage offers a viable solution here. Its a bit tedious to setup, though, as MM is a bit restrictive when it comes to handling the memory card. The internal memory "feels" more natural in usage.
One feature I thought I miss very much when originally switching to the OP3 is wireless charging. In fact, now again with a wireless charging phone - well, its nice but not crucial. I have become accustomed to cable charging, Dash and USB-C helping in making it actually pretty convenient..
Camera in S7 is claimed to be "much better" than OP3. In real life there is a small benefit in really low light and shots from the S7 have a crisp look to it, also the S7 camera is faster to focus. But actually I do not like the way the S7 shoots as much of the crispness is IMHO just heavy over-sharpening, leading to many non-natural photo results. For me the OP3 camera gives more pleasing images.
Finally - Software. With S7 (Exynos version) I am stuck with Samsung firmware and derivatives from it. The XDA developers are doing a great job in tuning that software but all in all I miss the variability and lightweight OSes available on OP3. To me the S7 OS still feels bloaty (even after debloat) and sometimes strange wakelocks pop up, leading to irregular battery life - something I just did not have on OP3.
So for me I decided to go back to OP with the OP3T - bigger battery, nice camera, sapphire lens cover and more open OS play a core role for me.
Sorry for the a tad lengthy discourse, of course YMMV ,
Axel
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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Nope
For sure the S7 display is very nice and also much higher resolution (530 vs 440 PPI, IIRC). This leads to more information that can be stuffed onto the screen, but actually for my aging eyes this results sometimes in worse readability
All in all the screen is no reason for me to stay on the S7.
Cheers, Axel
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What about the display? Did you notice alot of difference between the display of the op3 and the display of the s7 in terms of sharpness?
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S7 Edge screen is way better than OP3..I have both

What I Love and Hate about my new OnePlus 5!

My OP5 has replaced my Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge which unfortunately was dropped and shattered the front glass. It's expensive/difficult to replace the glass on these so I treated myself to a new phone. So this is what I Love and Hate about my new OnePlus 5!
Love
The Snapdraggon 835 -The phone is Fast and bang up to date in connectivity support.
Fast storage and lots of memory- More Speed
No bloatware and streamlined Android -Contributes to the speed and simplicity.
The silent/DnD slider button -No more taking my phone out and turning the display on to switch it to silent! Fantastic.
Fast responsive finger print unlocking.
Solid Home button -Sooner or later the push down home buttons on galaxies start to wear causing rocking, noises/rattles, missed clicks etc because of their frequent use. Hopefully nothing to wear out here.
The deep blacks and saturation from the AMOLED panel
3.5mm jack -Can still use my headphones without an adapter.
Battery -Amazing battery life and the DASH charge is great too.
USB C -So easy to plug in the charger in the dark now.
Gorilla Glass 5 -better drop resistance, the gorilla glass 4 on my Galaxy S7 drop failed
Glass on one side. Feels less premium in a way, but reduces the weight of the phone. This means less force when it falls and less chance of shattering the screen. However metal dents and scratches easily.
Hate
The Camera. So much hype and so much disappointment. Good on paper and for taking 'benchmark' photos. But very poor in real world phone usage. The S7 camera is WAY better. I'm so disappointed I gave it it's own thread.
Only 1080P screen. Also if the brightness is turned up I can see 'noise' on the display. Also get some weird distortions when scrolling. Viewing angle is good, but not excellent. Automatic brightness control is also hit and miss. The S7 was much better. A big downgrade on the S7 display in all areas.
Design is good. But it doesn't look as nice as say a galaxy S8
Having DRM issues, such as reduced quality Netlix streaming. I hope this gets sorted soon.
Sound is loud, but quality is average.
Not waterproof
No SD Card support. Who really wants two sim card holders? Make the other slot for an sdcard like Samsung.
Price. £450 is not a value bargain like the old versions. You can buy a Samsung S8 on Amazon for £550 now.
In a nutshell. It's a mid range phone in regards to features and design, but with high end performance. I don't think it's a bargain. I think the price is about right for what you get.
Sometimes I ask myself why do people actually upgrade from S7 or equal??
The S7/S7 edge is only one year old. I think it's also nonsense to upgrade from S7 to S8 for example.
What do people expect to get? A whole new smartphone experience? Ppl knew the specs right from the start, before they bought it. Of course a 1080p screen will be worse than a QHD.
It's not waterproof, you knew that. It has no SD-Slot, you knew that as well.
For the smoothness and the speed to exist, as well as the great batterylife, there need to be some things that can't be amazing as well for this price. And it's not even bad on this phone.
I understand disappointment, but it's mostly because people expect too much from a phone that is only 1 year younger than the one they own.
I'm coming from a Nexus 5 and I'm totally happy with the OP5. My gf has a S7 edge. They are both good phones. The Samsung might have a better camera, but the Android experience and smoothness is GALAXIES better with the OP5.
Sometimes ist also about people's priotities.
Just my 2 cents. Hope you'll enjoy your new device
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I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.
bamfsig45 said:
I don't think you can add lack of water proofing and no SD card slot and only 1080p to the list of hate since you should have known this already but continued to purchase the phone.
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If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.
sireniankyle said:
If he truly does hate the feature, or lack of, why can't he put them on the list? It's HIS list.
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Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.
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Because I said . honesty though, I just hate complaints on lack of features when it was a known fact prior to purchase. So I'm going to stick to my opinion on the subject.
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It is possible that he thought he could look past it, but ended up failing at it. idk. All I can say is that it has happened to me. Mostly with iPhone, but that is a whole other beast.

Clarity/resolution

The OnePlus 5T has a crazy crisp display. Just kidding, this is automated text so who knows if this screen is any good. So, you be the judge! A higher rating indicates that it's extremely sharp and clear, and that you cannot see pixels with your naked eye.
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
benjmiester said:
Good to know, I'm eyeing a 5t myself. I think I read that they use a different 'diamond' pixel spacing on the 5t, so it may actually appear more pixel dense than the old lentil arrangement on Samsung's previous amoled panels.
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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
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If you meant "diamond pentile matrix", then Samsung has been using it from S3 days or even earlier than that. Today's Samsung sourced mobile amoled displays have diamond pentile matrix only that includes 5t as well. This pixel arrangement gives less number of green and red subpixels compared to LCD and other screens but it's non noticeable for a screen with ppi more than 400. It was a problem in S3 and note 2 days bcoz of low resolution but not anymore..
So get the 5t with eyes closed.
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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Oh woops, looks like I just got the term wrong.
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No worries?
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v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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What I can tell you is that the display is perfect. No discoloration or hues on tilting the screen, brightness is uniform only thing is the display looks a bit...really a bit more reflective than the note 4 display but then it could be because of the screen guard thats pretty applied. Other than that nit picking the display is amazig.
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
v0 HaVoK 0v said:
Can anyone talk on the brightness uniformity of this display
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Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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I went through 3 different pixel 2 XLs (for various defects) before setting on the OP5T; all 3 pixels had significant uniformity problems with the top being brighter than the bottom. Also very grainy. Can't find anything wrong with the display on the 5T.
Reuben_skelz92 said:
Uniformity will vary on every screen. It's a lottery with any oled display
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Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
harpin14789 said:
Yes, it's a lottery with LG's OLED panels, but with Samsungs panel, it's more consistent per panel.
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Not sure. Plenty of pink tints etc on Samsung panels. But the Samsung ones are a lot better anyway.
I had 2k screens (G3, S7e and Pixel XL) for 3 years and while I can squint and see that the 5T is a lower resolution, it looks the same when you use it normally.
I was a little concerned about this, but was relieved when I got the phone and the screen was very nice and crisp.
I would like to admit to being quite picky about resolution and used to change it on my G3 to get better battery life but couldn't stand it being slightly "blurry" because it was no longer 1:1, pixel for pixel. Most people don't notice this but it did! (Not that the text looks blurry on the 5T because it is 1:1 at 1080p.)
sukesh1090 said:
I have used Samsung Galaxy Note 4 for 2 years ( AMOLED 2k) before coming to 5T and I really don't see any difference.
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Hey, i just switched too from the Note 4 to too! Before buying i was sceptical too due to the 1080p screen, so i went to the stores and had a look at the mate 10 pro, wich also has a 1080p 6" screen and i couldn't see any difference, so i ordered the OP5T. I am very happy with the screen! Can't see any difference in normal use aswell. Plus it has a much whiter white than my Note 4.
Coming from the 2K screen on the Nexus 6P to the OnePlus 5 had me a little skittish, but it wasn't a significant enough change to warrant returning it. The 5T's OLED panel takes things to another level with its brightness/darkness levels and battery life impact. I thoroughly love it, and went as far as to drop my font size to the lowest possible to give me the faux-highres feel.
Currently my oneplus 3 screen uniformity is rubbish. It's especially noticeable on white band even more so on grey backgrounds with a very noticeable yellow tint towards the top left of the screen. It's pretty gross.
I know it's a bit of a "lottery" with OLED screens but can I expect a better overall experience coming from the OP3?
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
Colday96 said:
Id the oneplus 5t screen from samsung ? Shame google couldn't just take an oled display from samsung because otherwise, the pixel 2 xl would be the perfect smartphone.....
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Sadly it costs to much and has no headphone jack and has not much development.
now back to topic: the screen looks fine nearly the same as on my op3 but thats okay it was a very good screeen.
I've from a QHD Super Amoled display from my Note 5 to this phone. Unless you're gonna use a magnifying glass to pin point pixels, you're gonna find both both displays are excellent. I am extremely happy with the display with my 5t.
Screen looks awesome to me. With any oled screen it's a lottery how uniform it will be.
The screen looks fantastic to me... no noticeable difference from a 2k one.
The phone does not support VR so it would have been only a useless battery draining feature.

S10 or S10+?

Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
S10+ will be better.
vegetaleb said:
Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
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Whatever size you like. I looked at both and I liked the S10 better because it was a little smaller. I keep BT, location and wifi on all day on my S10 and usually have between 30 and 40% left when I charge it at bedtime. I'm fine with the small cutout but I don't thing the oval one would bother me either. It looks like the Snapdragon may have a little better battery life so if you're getting the Exynos then your usage may vary. Some people are more anal than others and don't like either cutout so in the end it's what you're looking for in a phone.
S10 is fine if you some extra bucks then go for S10+
So it doesn't bother you to have a bigger "hole" out of nowhere on the s10+? On the s10 I could live with it
I have both and will be selling my ceramic S10 plus. The standard 10 just feels to be the right size and going back to the plus just illustrates how much managing these large phones take, yes you get used to it but there is no doubt that the 10 is easier to use one handed and less of a burden to carry.
The jump from say 5.5 or 5.8 made the burden worthwhile but 6.1" is hardly a small screen and may well be the sweet-spot
YMMV
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I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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I have found a thread in xda where people are getting 8h Sot with the s10 after a full reset and no apps restored from backups.
If this is confirmed I would take the s10. My 6t actually gives me 7h sot which is good for a full day, I would certainly get 10h if I do a reset but I am too lazy specially if I will sell it soon
I love the standard s10. It's still plenty of screen real estate, the battery is still amazing.
I did a complete review if you are interested in watching it,
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arsenal74 said:
I have both and will be selling my ceramic S10 plus. The standard 10 just feels to be the right size and going back to the plus just illustrates how much managing these large phones take, yes you get used to it but there is no doubt that the 10 is easier to use one handed and less of a burden to carry.
The jump from say 5.5 or 5.8 made the burden worthwhile but 6.1" is hardly a small screen and may well be the sweet-spot
YMMV
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Yep. S10 feels like a phone and not like a tablet
S10+ FTW!! Forget the rest
Nic2112 said:
I tried both, figured I'd prefer the S10+ because of the battery but even if I'm used to 6.4 inch displays (note 9, 6T), a far prefer the S10's format. It's just a bit less screen but to me, it feels much better in the hand.
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The Note 9 is much bigger (wider) than the 6T. I know what you mean, as the 6T does feel more comfortable in the hand since it is a smaller device. The S10+ has slightly smaller side bezels, so it is marginally less physically wide than the 6T despite having a larger (wider) display.
The 6T has the longest aspect ratio (19:9) while the Note 9 has 18.5:9 and the S10+ has 19:9.
vegetaleb said:
Even though I have a 6T 6.4" I wouldn't say no for an s10 with 6.1" but the claim that battery is much better on the + is making me think twice.
Anyone has both in exynos and can compare SOT?
Do you feel the single small punch hole of the s10 much more tolerable than the cigar shape dual lens of the s10+?
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Looking only at the diagonal length is misleading owing to the differing aspect ratios. Pythagorean Theorem. This is why diagonal sizes are seemingly so much larger these days despite phones not necessarily becoming much larger. Bezel has been replaced with display with the same phone width, and phones have also started becoming slightly longer.
If you were to only consider the 16:9 portion of these displays, then here's a quick summary for comparison (+/- 0.01" for Rounding). Personally, I wouldn't get the S10 since it's a tad small for me.
S10: 5.34"
S10+: 5.63"
Note 9: 5.69"
OP6T: 5.49"
I don't really like the camera cut-out on the S10/S10+ since it makes the notification bar fairly gigantic. The wider cut-out on the S10+ won't make as much a difference as you might think as the actual placement is more important.
aenews said:
The Note 9 is much bigger (wider) than the 6T. I know what you mean, as the 6T does feel more comfortable in the hand since it is a smaller device. The S10+ has slightly smaller side bezels, so it is marginally less physically wide than the 6T despite having a larger (wider) display.
The 6T has the longest aspect ratio (19:9) while the Note 9 has 18.5:9 and the S10+ has 19:9.
Looking only at the diagonal length is misleading owing to the differing aspect ratios. Pythagorean Theorem. This is why diagonal sizes are seemingly so much larger these days despite phones not necessarily becoming much larger. Bezel has been replaced with display with the same phone width, and phones have also started becoming slightly longer.
If you were to only consider the 16:9 portion of these displays, then here's a quick summary for comparison (+/- 0.01" for Rounding). Personally, I wouldn't get the S10 since it's a tad small for me.
S10: 5.34"
S10+: 5.63"
Note 9: 5.69"
OP6T: 5.49"
I don't really like the camera cut-out on the S10/S10+ since it makes the notification bar fairly gigantic. The wider cut-out on the S10+ won't make as much a difference as you might think as the actual placement is more important.
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Btw, if you change the fonts size, will it enlarge the statusbar icons too? I can use a phone without glasses if I can make these icons and fonts a bit larger
vegetaleb said:
Btw, if you change the fonts size, will it enlarge the statusbar icons too? I can use a phone without glasses if I can make these icons and fonts a bit larger
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You can always adjust the DPI. I find the default to be way too large, so I do the opposite and reduce it on any device I use. You can also independently adjust the font size if you wish. Between those two settings, you should be able to get the right balance for yourself.

Question How would you all rate the ergonomics of this phone?

Pretty straightforward from the title. I've been using an XZ2 compact. I got my dad a pixel 4a recently and when I finished setting up, finally getting to hold my XZ2c, I realized that the pixel 4a was incredibly worse to hold. Not even a screen size thing. So how does it feel to hold and operate the zenfone 8? Any comparisons to the pixel 4a or XZ2c?
Not sure this is relevant for you but I'm coming from Samsung S9+ and its (zf8) way better. I used to get pains in my wrist and arm after holding the S9+ one handed, with the ZF8 id does not happen. I am also able to use it one handed using my left hand - also really great.
Compared to my wife Samsung s10e - I also feel it "holding" slightly better (even tough its ~20 Grams heavier) du to it being thicker I think
hirshr said:
Not sure this is relevant for you but I'm coming from Samsung S9+ and its (zf8) way better. I used to get pains in my wrist and arm after holding the S9+ one handed, with the ZF8 id does not happen. I am also able to use it one handed using my left hand - also really great.
Compared to my wife Samsung s10e - I also feel it "holding" slightly better (even tough its ~20 Grams heavier) du to it being thicker I think
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Not the most relevant, but it's still valuable information. Thanks
Sony has that trend where it makes screens less wider for you to be able to hold better.
Zenfone's screen is a bit like middleground between a Sony device and a regular Samsung or Iphone, probably a pixel 4a too. It is very comfortable to hold and reach most of the screen with one hand. My previous phone, the Oppo Find 7 (basically Oneplus One), had a 5.5 inch screen and it is wider, even more so if we compare with bezels.
For its lower screen size, it is also slightly thicker than a Samsung/Iphone. It feels very compact for having a snapdragon 888 with 5g support packed inside.
Glass back is very slippery, I dont like it naked for that reason. The included case does not make it oversized at all and has perfect grip.
mestermagyar said:
Sony has that trend where it makes screens less wider for you to be able to hold better.
Zenfone's screen is a bit like middleground between a Sony device and a regular Samsung or Iphone, probably a pixel 4a too. It is very comfortable to hold and reach most of the screen with one hand. My previous phone, the Oppo Find 7 (basically Oneplus One), had a 5.5 inch screen and it is wider, even more so if we compare with bezels.
For its lower screen size, it is also slightly thicker than a Samsung/Iphone. It feels very compact for having a snapdragon 888 with 5g support packed inside.
Glass back is very slippery, I dont like it naked for that reason. The included case does not make it oversized at all and has perfect grip.
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Sony devices are also less rounded that probably make for a better grip, Zenfone 8 not so much

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