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After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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If you are in the states don't buy the c567 model go for the international one. IS models are not receiving updates as frequently as European model
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The Restless Soul said:
After the issues with Huawei breaking and killing my warranty (also my p9 lite), i wanted to buy Oneplus 5T. However , i've seen this Mate 10 pro with decent specs and good features and it was 50$ more than Oneplus 5T.
I only want a phone for battery camera and software. Should i risk my money (and sanity with the warranty) for this device or should i stick with Oneplus 5T?
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The ROMS for the Mate 10 pro aren't perfect. If you want to run AOSP or something closer to it like near stock android, the one plus 5T is the stable option. If you are okay with the EMUI then the Mate 10 pro has better hardware IMO. If you like to tinker with less than perfect ROMS, then I'd go with the Mate 10 Pro but I'm sure the one plus 5T has more ROM development.
That's my two cents.
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Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
The Restless Soul said:
Huawei killed bootloader unlock. I can go for oneplus5T but it has 64 gb while.mate 10 pro has 125gb. Again skeptical for Huawei because i don't want to get headaches in the long run about the warranty.
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If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
javierty said:
hello,bro. what do you mean when u say " If not you will have to pay $30 or $55", pay for downgrade or unlock booloader?
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Unlock. Downgrade is free IF possible. For example:
On BLA-L29C432B142 you can use DC. On B145 it doesn't work but can be downgraded using service firmware. B146 or higher can not be downgraded past B146. Build is not the same on every cust, so if you are on C636 the build where DC works is different. But generally it's May patch firmware.
Paid expensive unlock is done by FH and ministryofsolutions. If you have rebranded using FH before you can not use their service (FH Rebrand changes your imei in fastboot).
ante0 said:
If you're lucky you get a device on low enough firmware to downgrade and use DC/HCU to get unlock code. If not you will have to pay $30 or $55 depending on what site you chose.
I would rather get the OnePlus if you want root/custom roms.
What warranty issues did you have with p9?
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My phone has 3 issues with EMUI 5 updates (when it launched for the first time). I made a post about it on my account. I just want a long run phone. Do you think this is worth the money or 5T is better?
Well? Should i waste my time with Huawei again or move on with Oneplus/ google pixel 1?
Actually the Mate 10 pro is an excellent device.. But considering the possibilities of an one plus 5 or 6, I'd not go with Huawei anymore.
Same. Mate 10 pro has so many great features but it is not a long run device. I can see myself changing it in 2 years after Huawei will kill my phone like their attempt with my P9 lite. Oneplus 5T is a great deal for me but the camera is not as impressive like on Mate 10 pro and only has 64gb. The fast charging is pretty neat on 5T, but the long lasting battery on Mate 10 pro is very nice for me too.
Idk which to pick. I can go for 5T for the long run (which may keep me more than 4 years due to development), but we will see what will happen during christmas. Either way, i have the google pixel pinned on my shopping list. If Oneplus 5T 128gb gets cheaper, then i will go for 5T.
Also Mate 10 pro doesn't have the bootloader unlocked, thus the phone aging from outdated software.
Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Ok so looks like Oneplus isn't trustable anymore. I've seen many posts about security issues and that pushed me away from the company.
Ok Huawei, you won... Buying mate 10 pro
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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Oh that's an interesting take on the situation, I was going to recommend the mate 10 pro anyway but for different reasons.
I came from an OP3, battery life of the mate 10 pro is a different league, software, bar a few foibles, is ok. Although there's still issues with android auto compatibility and as has been mentioned custom ROM scene is impacted by lack of bootloader unlock. With hindsight I'm still happy I made the right choice, hopefully when I'm due an upgrade other OEMs will have decided to fit usable batteries.
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I could had gone for oneplus 5T but i don't want to go change my rom just when i purchase it. Huawei killed my nerves with the warranty. So you got your mate 10 pro too?
I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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I had the Essential PH-1 and the Mate 10 Pro. I sold the Essential PH-1 even though it already had full Pie on it. The screen of the Mate 10 Pro is a beauty and it's fast and snappy at anything I throw at it. However, as others have said, if you want to get to Pie quicker or you like to tinker with your phone and use a ROM, you are pretty much out of luck. If you are OK with the latest security updates on Oreo and the thought that you "maybe" getting Pie then it's an excellent phone. If I had the chance to buy the Mate Pro again I would go for the International version even without warranty. I do want the face-unlock and other features that the US version hasn't received and might not receive.
It's a tough decision. I might look at the latest One Plus 6 or the Mate 20 when it comes online. But the price difference is too large and I want a great phone now - so I am quite happy with the Mate 10 Pro.
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The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy. Again, i can buy it but i don't want to change the software just when it was fresh bought.
Mate 10 pro has many features and great design. Also the pc mode is very very cool and it does not need a dock. Also has always on display, which Oneplus 5T has only by rooting it (unless Oneplus implements it). But, as we know, Huawei has terrible software support and warranty as well (warranty being my case).
In my opinion, i think Mate 10 pro is a better value for the simple fact that has water resistance, pixel-like camera, 4k battery and other hidden features, but i have to send my cousin to buy it so HUAWEI won't add anything sketchy in it :laugh::laugh::laugh:.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
I want to hear your opinions about these 2 devices. I want to buy a phone for the long run. This is my opinion. Sorry that the post feels weird, but i am always skeptical of buying new phones, especially "flagships"
The Restless Soul said:
The only phone i can buy is the international.
Again. Oneplus 5T is a great phone but the software has terrible security and privacy (by the looks of it.)
Mate 10 has solid and flagship features but support is as bad as the long term software updates.
Again, i can go for Oneplus 5T but i don't want huge headaches changing roms. Besides, Google implemented whatever "limitation" that will not make your phone trustable unless yadda yadda.
Google pixel was a good phone but it's a 2016 device and the pixel experience will pretty much be gone.
The only options are oneplus 5T and Mate 10 pro. Oneplus 5T with good specs and software but bad privacy.
Oneplus 5T is a mate 10 pro in a cheaper form. Great specs, great build, great battery and great charging. But the software raises your anxiety with these "privacy and security" issues. A custom ROM solves the issue (as i said earlier).
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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I really am surprised at the security concerns with OOS, I'm still active on the OnePlus community forums and haven't seen any recent security scares, the android patches are September and everything else seems OK.
The big advantage that led me to choose the Huawei is the battery. OnePlus are still fitting 3400mah batteries ,which too my mind are too small, clever software tweaks can compensate, but those same tweaks can make the mate 10 pro even better.
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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Actually about the security and privacy of Oneplus's OOS is the fact that it can collect all your activity through an app that gets all your logs and sends them to Oneplus. Again, skeptical with both the devices. I am sorry for my "temper" between these 2 devices, but , again, i am concern about my purchase as i want a phone to last me more than 3 years (at least)
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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I think most modern phones will last more than 3 years on the hardware side, judging by the support I've received so far for the Mate 10 pro, I'm skeptical that software support will last 2 years let alone 3. OnePlus are much more supportive of the development community so custom support is much better.
A word of caution though, both devices are 2017 devices a full two years official support will take them to 2019 you are after support for 3 years, from now that takes you to 2021, that is well outside the official support window of even the best devices.
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So what should i buy between those 2 devices?
Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
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Recently my wife arrested my Mi8 because of the Google Camera astonishing output, so now I am using an old Mi A1 rooted, but my fingers are already itching, so now in the position of buying a new phone.
The reason I am posting here is that Mi9 is one of my options.
Based on your experience with the device what would you pick Xiaomi Mi9 vs. Oneplus 6T (can find if 100-150 Eur cheaper in mint condition).
Main factors:
- camera experience and compatibility with Google Camera;
- battery;
- lagfree experience;
I now all features and youtube movies, but I am more interested in users opinions than biased reviewers.
Can take also other recommendations if the reason is posted.
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Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
Battery life is really good imo.. check the sot thread here https://forum.xda-developers.com/Mi-9/review/screen-time-t3902207
While about development, dude 6t has been out for months and months already lol
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if you prefer a 2018 to a 2019 phone...
i came from a op6t and i'm pretty happy with my choice
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Same here...I came from OP6 which had almost the same hardware as op6t (same chipset and camera, etc) . All in all, I prefer the mi9 in regards to hardware and features. But I much preferred the OP in regards to its android software.
-I'm getting about the same battery life out of the mi9.
-camera is much better in good light, but not as good in realy dark environments. (gcam is already doing a realy good job for me though, so early on. OP didn't have camera2api support either)
-Speed, I don't think you can realy feel a difference between the 2.
-amoled screen seems a bit better to me
-stock os is much better, and community support was realy good on op. Let's see about mi9, a few months after release ?
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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Whatever media saids about good batery life on mi9. My experience is not good. Bad batery life. Better goes for 6t. The development of 6t is more good than mi 9.
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I would add something on this. Development is still pretty new, which means it's kinda hard to do tech stuffs. I agree that stock MIUI has a horrible battery life in Mi 9. I recently switched to xiaomi.eu and battery life has significantly increase. I would say about 1.5-2x better than stock MIUI.
I was on OP6. The camera got broken and I got my money back, because the seller couldn't repair it. I was in almost same position as you and had an rooted A1 as backup phone. I bought the mi9 because op6t is almost the same compared to OP6. If you have time go for OP7. I hadn't time and wanted to try again with a Xiaomi that's why I went for mi9.
Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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I'm at the exact same point waiting for op7 since Xiaomi miui puts me off since I don't want to instantly unlock new phone and start maintaining os by myself. But if I had to I'll put pixel experience in it gcam and I think I'll be good device for a few years to come not really picky about camera and all since I'm still using my op2.
Could you guys compare the battery life between mi9 and op6t? Because this is my biggest concern to buy a new phone.
Robbo.5000 said:
I suppose it depends on what's more important to you.
The Xiaomi is head and shoulders above the OnePlus as far as hardware specs go. But MIUI, for me, is awful, though it is very polarising and some people love it. OxygenOS is arguably the best vendor Android flavour by quite a long way.
I'm in a similar situation and an looking to upgrade, made more urgent last week by my OnePlus 3 getting a fatal dunking.
I've come close to buying a Mi 9 a couple of times over the last month, but the thought of being stuck with MIUI until custom ROM support becomes more mature keeps putting me off. If I could get LineageOS on it, I'd have already bought it, as it's by far the best bang for your buck.
OnePlus devices have by far the best community development and you'll always have a multitude of options with them.
I'm now going to wait for another 5 weeks and see what price tag OnePlus put on the 7 and 7 pro and if they continue to move the price north in the same way it's gone since the 5, then hopefully there will be some ROM alternatives for the Mi 9 other than the xiaomi.eu version of MIUI
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Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
catalindobre said:
Same for me, will wait few more weeks, but unfortunately I'm stuck on a Mi A1 and it's harder and harder to cope with it. Any idea about price range for OP7?
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The OP6 and 6T were a bit more expensive than the Mi 8 at launch, forget how much but maybe around $75 (I seem to remember it being more than $50, but not as much as $100). So I'm expecting the OP7 to be a bit more than the Mi 9.
However, and this is my own personal speculating so could be completely wrong, I'm wondering, with the fact that they'll be releasing a pro version too, if they'll lower both the specs and price slightly of the standard OP7 and bring it in at the same price as the Mi 9.
I've had both. The 6T had better software and better battery but the camera on the mi9 is quite a bit better. Depends on your order of importance but I prefer the mi9 over the 6T
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
4Freedom said:
I was in the same situation and I decided to go with Mi 9.
Mainly because of Snapdragon 855 (+20% Performance improvement +20% Battery improvement)
And for the price. (I bought the 128GB model at 429€)
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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Just curious:where did you buy it for that price?
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MOBZILLA:good: (From Italy)
the only thing holding me back to buy a Mi9 is that there is no custom rom support yet. Simply cant stand MemeUI
perhaps wait for Op7?
Just read this
https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-eu-xiaomi-mi-9-fixes-everything-wrong-with-miui/
ManuBBXX said:
Hello all
Just broke my good old OP3, and I purschased this mi9
I loved the ROM development on my OP3, and it seems the xiaomi mi9 hasn't any custom ROM development at all (Where are my ResurectioNRemix, Lineage, SkyDragon Roms, etc.. ) ??
I don't like the MIUI 10 interface, I will try the POCO launcher, but I really would like to flash another custom ROM
When do you think there will be nice Lineage ROM on MI9 ?
For now, I don't think it's necessary to unlock bootloader and flash twrp, cause there is no nice ROM to flash ( correct me if I'm wrong ) ?
Edit : Otherwise, I read here about a 'xiaomi.eu 'rom.
What is it about exactly, what are the changes compared to the stock MIUI original ROM ? and is it flashable without twrp ?
Thanks a lot !
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Do you guys think Mi 9 will be a better option over Pixel 3XL now? The only thing that is swaying me to that is the stock experience and the camera. Can't think of OP devices as my country doesn't really offer it as an option unless i buy from overseas without warranty. Trying to upgrade from a Mi Mix 2. I see that the development for this phone is not that strong yet (hopefully it'll pick up as time goes by). Any thoughts?
can't really decide.
Hello guys ,
So i was currently thinking of upgrading my oneplus 3
But i couldn't settle on a certain phone , the only 2 phones in my mind would be the oneplus 7 pro and Samsung galaxy s10 plus since both cost the same where i live , let me know what you think guys
I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!
The s10's price is diving so you may be able to pick up a bargain. Depends on your criteria.
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Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.
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I am going to wait for the Pixel 4 and then make a decision..
I would choose the 7 Pro over the S10 Plus for its VFM and screen!
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Pixel devices are great no doubght but they are really expensive at the same time
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Currently using the 3T and will be upgrading to the s10 plus. I'm just waiting for the price of the s10 plus to dip a bit further down. Personally I think the s10 plus is more equipped with features and well rounded.
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The S10 plus is a really great phone but i keep getting pulled away due to the below points
1. Touch wiz and the history of updates
2. Developer community always better on one plus devices
3. The notchless screen on the oneplus 7 pro makes it look much appealing the s10 plus screen .
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Ordered the Oneplus 7 pro (Almond colour) 8/256, will arrive tomorrow. Very excited.
But will still keep my OP3 with me for as long as it lives.
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Congrats , let us know what you think when you receive it
I get your point. Samsung is refining oneui to bring it closer to stock android and is increasing update supports for it's flagships, according to latest reports and that's good enough for me.
Oneplus phones surely has more community support, but nowadays phones with stock roms has got so much better that the idea of installing custom roms is becoming less tempting.
The 7 Pro may look more appealing because of it's all screen design, but I still have some reservations about the pop up camera with regards to how long it will remain functional as a moving part.
I'm not trying to convince you as to why the s10 plus is a better phone then the 7 Pro because both phones are great in their own way, I'm just sharing my personal reason why I'm going to get the s10 plus as my next phone.
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Personally I'm keeping my op3 as long as it's working and not struggling with doing anything. However of it were to die tomorrow I'd be looking at he op7 pro, the Xiaomi black shark 2, or the oppo Reno 10x zoom
Take a look at Xiaomi Mi 9
Zenfone 6 since it will officially receive lineage os. I don't like the size of the phone and just 18W charging but it has the greatest battery life.
If the s10e becomes cheaper and receives lineage os, I'll gladly opt for it.
Wait for the Pixel 4
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Wait for the Pixel 4
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The pixel devices are always highly priced
I'm looking for a mate 20 pro, I'm waiting for huawei/trump fight to end (I don't want to buy a phone that is not going to have android Q).
Also I'm a little bit annoyed to not be able to unlock bootloader.
But mate 20 pro is what I want, great camera and battery
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The pixel devices are always highly priced
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You have the budget for the S10, so I don't see why you can't buy the Pixel
Right now in India, the smaller pixel 3 is priced lower than the s10. I don't know how much it is in your country.
Pretty sure the smaller pixel 4 variant will be around the same price range.
I sure as hell won't buy a device with a notch and no headphone jack. I am at minority here but those are my requirements for now.
Redmi K20 Pro and Zenfone 6Z are top contenders for my money (I don't want to go back to IPS LCD but might have to). OnePlus phones are naturally out because they decided to "follow trend" and removed headphone jack. OP3 is working fine for my usage and i don't need the best camera, an average camera will do for me so no appeal of Pixel 4 to me at all. So for now, yeah, not many options, K20 pro is choice 1, zenfone 6z being 2nd.
I'm thinking about OP6 as it's the last OP with headphone Jack and notification LED. I know the notch isn't great but for me, small notch + OLED > LCD.
OP7, not the pro version because I definitely do not want a phone with moving parts. No Samsung, I have nothing with the brand...
But as others said before, will keep using my OP3T as long as possible. Fast, two days of battery life, great camera and straight forward; still did not find a good reason for making a switch. ..
I'd buy an iPhone, currently using oneplus 3, lasted for 2years. Still snappy with good battery backup.
Ok, so I really have serious thoughts of throwing in the towel, buy a s21 Ultra, and say goodbye (forever) to Xiaomi.
I gave Xiaomi a second chance with the Mi 11 Ultra (Global), having previously tried the Mi 10. Camera aside (which on Global still hasn't got the DXO updates), I really find the absence of SW updates highly disappointing (no update for two months, May Security release - in August), accompanied with minor SW annoyances proper testing would squash.
Have anyone had same throughts?
Idk where you live but latest eea is 12.5.6.0
MRaximus said:
Ok, so I really have serious thoughts of throwing in the towel, buy a s21 Ultra, and say goodbye (forever) to Xiaomi.
I gave Xiaomi a second chance with the Mi 11 Ultra (Global), having previously tried the Mi 10. Camera aside (which on Global still hasn't got the DXO updates), I really find the absence of SW updates highly disappointing (no update for two months, May Security release - in August), accompanied with minor SW annoyances proper testing would squash.
Have anyone had same throughts?
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I think exactly the same as you. Big disappointment for me and definitely the last time for me.
marcel112 said:
Idk where you live but latest eea is 12.5.6.0
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On Global/RKAMIXM? In Sweden, but it shouldn't matter.
MRaximus said:
Ok, so I really have serious thoughts of throwing in the towel, buy a s21 Ultra, and say goodbye (forever) to Xiaomi.
I gave Xiaomi a second chance with the Mi 11 Ultra (Global), having previously tried the Mi 10. Camera aside (which on Global still hasn't got the DXO updates), I really find the absence of SW updates highly disappointing (no update for two months, May Security release - in August), accompanied with minor SW annoyances proper testing would squash.
Have anyone had same throughts?
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I am not impressed by the phone either and it's the first and probably last time I'll buy from them
The hardware sounds good on paper
The software is junk and I've tried all the ROMs
The camera isn't as good as it should be
The rear screen functionality is a joke
The USB 2.0 file transfer takes forever
The gorilla glass "victus" even picked up a scratch in the first month and I was getting relatively careful with the phone (by my standards)
The Samsung is a better all-round device but I don't want 25w charging in 2021 so I decided the Xiaomi will have to do
Seems like the best sd 888 flagship now is probably the honor magic 3 or the if you can find one or maybe the p50 pro + if you want the best camera....
Xiaomi.eu rom (frequent updates) + gcam for camera and I think it's great.
Do agree with the USB 2.0 though..
Honestly it's a Chinese phone so chinese market gets treated much better with frequent updates, ao for the global market unless you speak Chinese the only alternative is going with Xiaomi EU ROM
Samsung can make excellent flagship phones but the S21U is a dog.
You want a SD card slot... and an spen.
This year is dead as Zed as far as Samsung is concerned.
Either wait to see what Samsung releases next year (there should be a Note released) or get a Note 10+ or Note 20U.
Personally my pick is still the 10+ running on Pie.
Android 10 and especially 11 are a mess with lame Apple like scope storage that eats CPU cycles for nothing but trouble.
Yeah Android dropped the ball worse than Samsung.
It's been a ball dropping year...
MRaximus said:
Ok, so I really have serious thoughts of throwing in the towel, buy a s21 Ultra, and say goodbye (forever) to Xiaomi.
I gave Xiaomi a second chance with the Mi 11 Ultra (Global), having previously tried the Mi 10. Camera aside (which on Global still hasn't got the DXO updates), I really find the absence of SW updates highly disappointing (no update for two months, May Security release - in August), accompanied with minor SW annoyances proper testing would squash.
Have anyone had same throughts?
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All updates in the China roms (stable and nightly beta's) are in the Xiaomi.eu roms (stable and weekly). What those developers do is take the China rom, strip out all Chinese bloat and script and add Google services, as well as, other custimization features. Before You throw in the towel, try this rom.
Snusious said:
Xiaomi.eu rom (frequent updates) + gcam for camera and I think it's great.
Do agree with the USB 2.0 though..
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Well, as a matter of principle I don't want to shed 1300€ on a phone and the re-flash it with a custom ROM just to get regular updates. It's not what I paid for.
MRaximus said:
Well, as a matter of principle I don't want to shed 1300€ on a phone and the re-flash it with a custom ROM just to get regular updates. It's not what I paid for.
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Yikes no I can get that. I would get it for 800€ from China though XD.
Samsung makes better flagship phones... when they want to.
I'm holding one. Rock solid stable, fast and running/looking like it was new nearing the two year mark. One replacement battery so far on this heavily used device. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and glitch free with very little maintenance.
blackhawk said:
Samsung makes better flagship phones... when they want to.
I'm holding one. Rock solid stable, fast and running/looking like it was new nearing the two year mark. One replacement battery so far on this heavily used device. Current OS load is over a year old, still fast and glitch free with very little maintenance.
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I was supersatisfied with my Note 9 and I'm buying the s21 Ultra 512 since I'm getting it at a super-good price, and it's camera seems to be better than the Note 20 Ultra, based on what I've seen. So yes, I agree that Sammy is making better flagships.
Samsung + Exynos = A joke for 1000€.
Soft ist upgradeable but when hardware is a joke then the phone stays the same joke forever.
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Well, as a matter of principle I don't want to shed 1300€ on a phone and the re-flash it with a custom ROM just to get regular updates. It's not what I paid for.
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You can buy the Chinese variant, which is exactly the same, right now on Giztop for $899 or €770.26. Wait a week to unlock it and flash the Global (EEA) rom or pay €600 more. It's your choice.
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Well, as a matter of principle I don't want to shed 1300€ on a phone and the re-flash it with a custom ROM just to get regular updates. It's not what I paid for.
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I got the 12/512 for $1200 from China
The western price simply isn't worth it
speedtripler said:
I got the 12/512 for $1200 from China
The western price simply isn't worth it
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Snap... you could have got a Note 20 U for less. With its 1tb SD card capacity, 128gb internal memory is fine. Lol, I'm using 64 of my 512gb internal memory.
This is my first Xiaomi phone in over 10 years and I'm still willing to give them more chances as it didn't break my bank and we have an amazing EU custom rom dev who works tirelessly for our Western community fanbase to fine tune it for our audience, which isn't always easy. I initially was very dissatisfied with the CN stable but now all my Google apps are working as they should on the EU Weekly - I would recommend trying it as I was skeptical at first.
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Snap... you could have got a Note 20 U for less. With its 1tb SD card capacity, 128gb internal memory is fine. Lol, I'm using 64 of my 512gb internal memory.
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The Mi 11 Ultra is only $899 from Giztop for the China varaint for 8/256GB and $1089 for 12/512 for a brand new phone with a SD888, a 5000mah battery, with a 67w wired and wireless charging.
jim262 said:
You can buy the Chinese variant, which is exactly the same, right now on Giztop for $899 or €770.26. Wait a week to unlock it and flash the Global (EEA) rom or pay €600 more. It's your choice.
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Yeah, it's my choice. But then again, I don't want to go down that path; I can even flash EEA on my Global too. Why, I explained before.
I simply experience too many issues with it to give it another shot:
* When I play YT videos, the sound seems to dance between the left and right speaker,
* The notification shade from time-to-time doesn't follow the theme,
* I find the cell reception to be worse than other phones I've used,
* The proximity sensor is behaving erroneously (been covered in this forum),
* Lack of SW updates,
* It's a Global device and the official MI service cannot, per agreement, serve the phone,
* I find the build quality not to be premium (my old OP 8 Pro, even Note 9, has a better grip in the hand)
I need not continue...
The SW needs way more polishing, in my eyes, to be worth the money.
Is this still the best bang for the buck phone in 2022? custom ROMs still working good? issues ironed out? ShOuLd I bUy ThIs OvER a SaMmY pHoNe LiKe a A52?!?!??!
There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
Imho yes but only when you use custom kernel and rom. If you stick with stock ones especially Miui 13 it really sucks, Miui is too resource heavy for 732g SOC. For example when driving I like to listen to spotify in the background and use google maps even though these tasks are fairly lightweight this phone with Miui 13 struggles to run them without stutters and freezes. If you're okay with running stock android like rom, that is when the SOC shines. It runs much more apps than spotify and maps no problem real fluid.
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There is no manufacturer which I'd recommend without hesitation. Android is in a horrible state after the manufacturers modified it. For Xiaomi this is crippled Always-on-display, disabled Smart Unlock (Bluetooth) etc. Many restrictions for marketing purposes. MIUI is developed without understanding how the memory on Linux shall be managed: You keep everything in memory until someone wants it, so application switching is fast. The installed bloatware is ok, could uninstall it and thanks to DNS66 never saw an ad.
Samsung in my opinion is even worse than Xiaomi. If I buy a phone, it is my device. I want to be able to see all files on it and do a backup. But opening the bootloader Knox gets triggered. They modify big parts of Android for their UI, that's why updates cost them much effort to adopt their changes to new versions. More effort for Samsung, more bugs, worse experience for the user.
If you want a good Android experience, you probably should have a look at Google pixel phones. But bang for the buck is difficult here.
In summary given the choices I'd say the Xiaomi is fine. You could consider the Xiaomi 11 Lite 5G NE if you don't need dual SIM and additional SD card, because 5G will replace 4G one day.
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i'm kinda a die hard SD card and headphone jack dude - so this does limit my choices...i mean i had my galaxy note 4 for 6 years (with roms) lol and I'm just starting to get over the fact I won't be able to easily replace batteries in these new phones...ugh. thanks for your sobering input
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
Maybe A52s, i'm looking to sell my pristine 10 Pro and maybe get A52s.
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interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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1q3er5 said:
interesting this is exactly what i'm deciding between...you had enough of playing with roms? what's the reason for the trade?
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I like OneUI a bit better, however Redmi has a better build quality and better camera.
Marvin.the.Martian said:
In my country Note 10 pro is around $350 brand new in stores for 128GB, and A52s is about 20-30 bucks more.
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Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
david003 said:
Interesting. The 6/64 I ordered is shipped from China, though, not in the store. Still, that's a huge markup.
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Everything is more expensive in EU.
david003 said:
The prices I'm seeing; the A52s is twice the price of the Note 10 Pro, so not an even comparison. I just ordered a Note 10 Pro for $200.
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i found at same prime when buyed.. 260 euro for note 5 pro, 280 for a52
Note 10 Pro has proven to be still better that the next gen, freshly released Note 11 Pro. Easy to repair because screens are on the 120 bucks mark while the back cover is solid plastic, very nice to see and touch and won't break if you pry it for a battery change. Also the silicon cover is great from preventing fall damage.
After debloating its very balanced on any task, but don't expect flagship peak performance by any means yet battery lasts a lot (on short usage sessions it lasted me 3 days without charging, 1,5-2 with continuous/intense usage). Imho, after years going Samsung-only I had enough with Knox nonsense, increasing sales pricing and hard-to-repair phones.
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
The Note 11 pro review I saw at gsmarena would suggest that the Note 11 pro is mostly a downgrade from the Note 10 pro, except for the 5g bands.
Edit to add: There's a 4g and a 5g version for it.
Yes, still the best in this price range of ~230 USD.
Samsung A52 costs 390 USD lol, not even comparable here
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According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Yeah but 5G isn't available anywhere, plus the more users move into new cell tech the more smooth the 4G is going to be. Would not consider unless you're into high speed hype.
david003 said:
According to the specs, the back cover of the Note 10 pro is gorilla glass 5, not plastic.
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Realization just struck me. I have the Glacial Blue version that, along with Vintage Bronze are in fact frosted glass while there's not much about the black version which seems to be more common here. I got blinded by disassembly videos where non-Pro versions were considered the same thing as for Pro, so I just made a mistake. Guess I will eventually challenge myself to remove it in future whenever necessary, such as a battery change. They still look pretty simple and solid to remove and the glass lens vessel is separate tho (right, Apple?). Thanks for pointing out!
Yes, personally I don't care for 5g. 4g LTE is fine. One thing that both of the Note 11 Pro models (4g & 5g) have are increased 4g bands, too, that make them more compatible in the U.S. (bands 12 & 66). If 5g or those additional 4g bands matter to someone, those are improvements/features to consider.
I also saw replacement backs for the Note 10 pro, for around $5, and watched a video that made it look easy to change. Hopefully never have to do that.
aleMarvel said:
no joke... a52 is more more better than this ridiculous note10pro... i have all tthese..
note 10 pro have miui orrible and with problems, custom roms with problems (aod, deep sleep, anx not working all).. and terrible drain... no no i have note4,note5 too but this note10 is bad..
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I have no problems with ANX, deep sleep, battery drain, etc. on my RN10P running the Project Sakura ROM. It's cool to prefer one phone over another, but spreading misinformation doesn't help anyone.
Development for this phone really isn't in a good place.
If you look at the latest posts on each of the ROMs, there's either big issues with heavy battery drain, touch issues or microphone problems.
Sad times