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I love using my phone for photography and as my daily driver I use the note 8 which has a dual camera on and quality is amazing even in low light however I have been looking at the p20 pro the only thing which puts me off is the lack of a memory card
Question has anyone made a similar move ?
How do you find the lack of memory card slot ?
Any issues with the phone??
How quick are the phone updates
The 40mp camera interested me but I don't want to regret the move
Thanks
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I did exactly this and have no regrets at all. Phone actually feels nicer in the handand 128gb is actually enough storage for me. Only had about 50gb of data between internal memory and my sd card on the More anyway.
Camera is great too though not a night and day difference if I'm honest. Is the only one I've used that can match Samsung for focus speed.
Performance feels smoother in general use. Samsung experience is still a little sluggish even after all these years.
Battery life is much better. Wasn't impressed with Note 8 longevity at all. Screen isn't as vibrant but it's still very nice.
I like the front fingerprint sensor better because I can unlock the phone without picking it up.
Can't speak for updates yet though. Only had the phone a week. Time will tell though the Mate 9 wasn't too bad on that front.
Hope this helps, feel free to ask me any other questions.
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I had move from Note 8 to s9+ and now to p20 pro...
You have to find out what you prefer most.
For my daily use i prefer p20 pro for excellent photos (I never take videos and if I will then fhd video is very good but not as Note 8 or s9+), front fingerprint with gestures (no use of nav bar), ir blaster, huge battery (30% up to Note 8 & 15-20% to S9+), excellent build quality and screen as Samsung,great signal - wifi...
If you used to work with spen then forget it and stay with Note 8 until Note 9 comes out but if you don't use it then think if you want S9+ or P20 pro... This 2 phones are so, so, so perfect....
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coming from s9+ to p20 pro havent found any problem yet.
about camera quality its already been proven alot of times p20 pro blast all mobile camera as of today https://www.dxomark.com/category/mobile-reviews/
if your using spen too much dont change its the only feature note 8 has over other mobiles.
camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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camera quality is no better than note 8/s9 plus, front camera and video recording are mediocre to say the least, stick to your Note 8, Note 9 is few months away
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Do you own both?
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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had the p20 pro for a month, sent it back, went back to note 8, p20 is a hyped cheap feeling toy compared to note 8
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Had an s9 for a couple of weeks, moved to p20 pro and now back to the s9 plus.
P20 pro is greatly over hyped.
The Bluetooth performance for me was a deal breaker as I couldn't run any headphones without stutter.
The touchscreen deadzone made things difficult when I had to use citrix or anything that required precise movements.
Camera is extremely inconsistent. It Can take good photos but you either need to use pro mode or get very lucky in auto.
I'll miss the battery and faster charging but that's about it
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
Went from P20 Pro to S9, missing lighting-fast face recognition, camera zoom & huge battery, everything else better on S9.
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I had both, sold my note 8 yesterday. The infinity display is old news and causes more issues than it solves. No phone these days feels like a cheap toy unless you pay £50 for it so please don't spread nonsense.
As for "being" cheap and toys, that's definitely the Samsungs. They can't compete with the P20 Pro except with a memory card option.
P20 screen is better considering it's 1080p, better uniformity, no colour shift or red / pink issues. Sounds better than the Note. Takes better pictures by a mile. Lasts 8 hours SOT every single day for me. Note lasted 4-5 hours SOT.
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Can't say I agree here. I use the Bose headphones, Sony, and phillips bluetooth headphones, Zero stutter. The camera is more consistent than my Pixel 2 XL.
S9+ shoddy battery life and shoddy photos meant it only lasted me a few days.
TO THE OP ) - Try it, and ensure you have 14 days to send it back, but I have extensively tested it along side the Note 8, S8+, Pixel 2 XL and the S9 and I can tell you if you know how to use the phone without AI on, ie when to use HDR mode, or just shoot auto, you'll not regret it. )
It is a little stuttery though. The phone itself not the camera.
Whatever happens, the Note 8 is as good as the S9+ if not better in most depts.
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Will have to agree to disagree
Pixel 2 does a lot better in daylight shots as does the s9
Only place the p20 camera does better is extreme low light however something you said I do agree with.
You can take better pictures with the p20 but as I said, it's a poor point and shoot.
S9 is MUCH better for that but if you can use manual mode, p20 has a higher ceiling.
My use case doesn't work with that, by the time km done fudging the settings the moment is gone.
My p20 screen has major uniformity issues but that seems to be a lottery these days.
I 100% agree try both, 14 days should be plenty to decide.
For me. The advantages of the s9 way outweigh the advantage of battery and manual camera.
Bluetooth is poor, maybe I live in a high interference area but both s9 and pixel have 0 problems.
If you play games that scrolling deadzone will make life very difficult
Of course the battery difference will be more pronounced going from note 8 to p20 than s9 to p20
I had a note and ditched it for the awful battery
What's this dead zone that people are talking about? Haven't noticed any such thing, how do I test for it?
By the way Bluetooth turned to crap on my Note 8 after the Oreo update. Would not sync automatically to my car and I'd have to fiddle around hitting the connect button a few times until it would eventually work.
Maybe I'll try Samsung again when the Note 9 comes out. Not sure. Many good things about their phones but the curved display got old after a while.
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It's this
I made a decision and purchased the mate ten pro I have to say I love it only downside is no memory card expansion but the camera is awesome I thought the note 8 was brilliant I love the AI
I played with the p20 pro however I wasn't working out the cost I purchased the p10 pro for £250 less
I have taken loads of pics and the AI gets it right almost all of the time
If anyone wants a superb branded Huawei I heartily recommend the p10 pro
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Will trade you my p20 and s9 for the pups
I can't make mine do it. Could it be a software issue that's been fixed on my version? Or are they shipping inferior hardware to some parts of the world?
Is that on the p20 pro or p10 pro
I just point at something and it works it out have took loads of shots and it's not faulted once
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I switched from the S8 Plus .. I was thought of waiting for the Note 9 to arrive, but was going to jump on the S9 Plus instead... That's until I started watching the review videos for the P20 Pro.. So I went with my gut and jumped on the P20 Pro .. After a week of using it, I'm impressed.. Battery life is remarkable..
1) 14 hour work day with moderate usage and I have 65% battery life left ..
2) Facial recognition fastest I've seen yet..
3) Where I would normally have bad reception through AT&T in certain areas and inside buildings, appear to not be there anymore.
4) I have not had it act sluggish at all.. No matter what I'm throwing at it and with many apps open in the background..
5) Camera .. Just Wow !!..
The only negative things are: No SD card slot and No head phone jack .. But the other stuff sure makes up for it ..
You can mitigate the lack of headphone jack with a USB C Charging and 3.5mm adaptor from Amazon for about £8. Works perfectly. Personally I use AirPods 99% of the time but I like the option of using wired headphones at night, as I tend to stick my phone in airplane mode.
Battery life is definitely better than the Note 8 but I found the Note 8 absolutely abysmal in terms of its battery life, so that's no great surprise.
The AI is very iffy. As a point and shoot I'd rather use an iPhone 8, Samsung or Pixel. The P20 Pro just gets it wrong too often - for example it will turn on Portrait Mode for shots if it spots a face but there are very few scenarios where I actually want to use their janky fake bokeh. It'll also turn on a 'scanner' mode if it sees a label - so the other day I took a picture of a beer and it just produced a crop of its label! You can turn off AI but the pictures then just look a lot blander and less dynamic than the Pixel. Pro mode is fun and produces excellent results but I rarely have time for that.
Software updates are my biggest concern. I'm genuinely worried that Huawei are very poor with software updates - particularly with carrier devices like my EE model. I'm already still on the March security update and hearing that other people have a new version with new improvements. It's almost like Project Treble was just a dream that I woke up from.
i have both s9 plus and p20 pro and i both use them everyday and compare them side by side together. taking pictures p20 pro is a no brainer its better than s9 plus its even proven in dx0 mark website so you really dont have to do experiments on how to properly take a picture and get the best result out of it. battery everybody knows p20 pro is better i before my s9plus i had note 8 im a heavy user my note 8 coming out of charge from full just in less than an hour my batts already around 97 almost same as my s9 plus.. about the 3.5mm jack issue i always use my bluetooth headsets so not a problem. sd card even 64gb is enough for me considering i have googlephotos and i upload all my photos automatically and delete all of if i need space locally
Hi guys
Actually I use a galaxy note 8 but in September. I need to change it because expire the rent signature.
So, I'm looking for a new smartphone.. And the 2 smartphone that I found are note. 9 or p20. Pro..
It's true that are 2 different product.. And the p20 has not the spen.. But I don't use the s pen top much..for work I started to use a iPad with the apple pencil and I think is better for my use.. The display is bigger than a smartphone display...
So, if I forget the spen functionality.. What is your suggestion? P20 is cheaper (not too much) and his camera is better.
Otherwise, I'm started to use galaxy series or note series 8 years ago, the first one was galaxy s1.... Actually the UI for me is easy to use...I'm scared I loose some function with the p20..
Can you give me your consideration?
Thanks
Sam
this is like asking in the huawei forum whether the note 9 is better...
Yes I know.. But if someone need to compare this 2 device, where must ask the question?
If you're used to the Samsung UI, the Huawei EMUI will definitely be quite different. Especially in terms of how it handles battery management and memory optimization, as well as maybe the lock screen notifications. My friend does have a P20 Pro while I use the Note 9, having switched from the S8.
I will tell you right away, if you want better battery life get the P20 Pro.
If you want the better camera, it's honestly a toss-up. In true real world experience, the P20 Pro's camera is not quite the home run critics make it out to be, there were some scenes where even my year old Galaxy S8 could beat the P20 Pro.
If you want the better display there's no question about it get the Galaxy Note 9 it's not only bigger it doesn't have a notch and well it's a Samsung OLED display enough said.
The real question of the Galaxy Note 9 is, how much are you willing to pay for the S Pen, and Samsung's slightly less offensive software. My advice is try to shop around for a P20 pro deal, as it's been out for a while now. If you can get it for significantly less than the Note, buy that. If the prices are within $100 of each other, get the Note. If you can wait, wait for the Mate 20 to release and see how that looks; even if you don't like it, both the Note and the P20 are bound to be cheaper by then.
Oddly enough, the battery test videos show the Note 9 quite superior to the P20. Not sure what is better because I don't buy off brand phones so I have no experience with them.
Lol, P20 Pro's camera is not better. It just has more lenses. If you DO like taking black and white pictures, go for Huawei. If you like functionality, SAME CAMERA PERFORMANCE, S-pen and overall performance, go for samsung. I used to have Iphone 8+, now i own Note 9. I dont feel any different in terms of performance.
I just sold my p20 pro that I've had for two months, my note 9 is coming tomorrow so I can't compare the two (I did have the note 8 and s9 for a while though) but I can tell you some things about the p20.
The camera has been advertised extremely well, and it is great in low light BUT in real world point and shoot situations it's trash in my opinion. I haven't taken one photo on it that I like, all the photos I have taken on auto are over processed and over sharpened. Any Samsung phone I've ever used has always had a fantastic point and shoot camera.
The EMUI no matter what anyone tells you is clunky and just not enjoyable to use. I feel like the new and improved Samsung experience UI is really smooth and easy to use in comparison. I'm aware you can use launchers and stuff but I prefer to keep the stock launcher.
Although the p20 is advertised as having a 4000mah battery I haven't had a great experience with it. This differs from person to person and usage but I really can't get a full day out of it.
I know it might seem like I'm bashing the phone I have enjoyed some aspects of it, but my note 9 is coming tomorrow and I cannot wait to get my hands on it.
Thanks a lot guys for your really apprecied feedback!
I read your opinion and I thin, again, that my new smartphone will. Be again a note!
Sure, I think the difference respect the note 8 will be not so much, but as I explained, in September expire the relationship with my carrier and I must change the smartphone, and buy a note 8 is not convenient.
Actually in italy the street price of the p20 pro is 700 euroin European version, online.. The Italian versione is slightly expensive, approx 800 euros..
The note 9 will sold 1029 euro, so the difference is 250/350euro,but I can subscribe, is a newest in italy, a subscription with Samsung. I can pay monthly the device for 24 months, with 99 euro of first payment, and obtain a note 9.afyerthis period, I can pay approx 300 euros and the device will be mine, otherwise, I can replace it with a new one..
At the end, I will pay more than 1029 euros but for 24 yeast I have a protection against damage included, and is not a bad things..
P20 pro has not this option, in italy is sold or as a usual with carrier or I must pay it 100%.
About ghe performance...i really stress my smartphone.. I use it for job, I take note during some. Meeting, I use it via chrome cast to watch movies by Netflix or similar, and the integrated dex station function can be a good features (but also the p20 has. This option)
I use also it with camera, because I have 2 children and is always a good. Thing have in my hand a good camere to capture the nice moment of the day.. And this is a good point.. I was sure that the people like the p20 pro camera. Much more than the other. Camera phone, but your real feedback explain a different situation.. I'm not a professional camera man, I need a best camera with automatic setting for this moment, and if you are agree that also the note 9 can be better, this is another good point for note 9.
Finally... The UI powered by Samsung is without secrets for me after a lot of years.. Also, last but not least, when I configure the new device automatically I found saved wifi Hotspot, password and other small information that help me during my Business, and I reduce the stress to replace a new device
Th AK a lot again guys for your explanation.
Ot: somebody with the note 9 can give me a feedback about dex application, in particular for Netflix and autocad application? I think can be 2 real interesting application respect surfing on internet or other solutions
Sam
If you ask me, wait a little bit for a mate 20 (pro) and than make finall decision. Last year i had note 8 and mate 10 pro after it and huawei was better for me.
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If you ask me, wait a little bit for a mate 20 (pro) and than make finall decision. Last year i had note 8 and mate 10 pro after it and huawei was better for me.
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In what ways if you don't mind me asking? I got my note 9 this morning and I am so happy I don't have to use the p20 pro anymore!
@Popmonty battery capacity (sot +40%) and flat screen at start (this rounded screen are totaly pointless for me, expecially on a note series where 10% on screen is useless with pen)! Than, mate 10 pro had stereo sound (note 8 not), much faster (and better positioned) fingerprint, 128gb etc.
On a note 8 side was wireless charging and 3.5mm.
Now in note 9 a lot of things are improved; stereo sound (but still mono for notification except whatsupp app), 128gb base memory, bigger screen and 4000mAh...but who knows what new mate will bring near new kirin 980 and wireless charging. I would wait 2 more months if there is possibility...if nothing, note 9 will be much cheaper in 2 months
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P20 pro still uses bluetooth 4.2 while others started with 5.0 like last year? It doesn't matter if I need it or not. For a flagship price it needs to provide flagship specs. Huawei has been known for this kind of **** behind the scene. Who knows what else has been cheaped out on.
Regarding the mate 20 pro... It was also for me a good option.. But I need to finalize the order max in the first week of October because I have to finalize the contract signed with phone operator.. I must return the note 8 otherwise I have to pay another year.. But the cost is similar to buy another one new phone so I will return it.
For this reason I think is not an option for me wait the new mate 20 pro.
Regarding the performance of p20... There are 2 important thing that are not installed in this device.. The 3.5 jack and And the wireless charging... For my personal use the first one is good because in the night in some case I use wired earphone too watch some movies in my bed when my wife sleep.. Are comfortable and I don't want rememberto charge a Bluetooth earphone.. I have the gear icon x of Samsung and I use this only for fitness... And a lot of case are discharge.
The wireless charge instead is good because I have in my office the wireless stand and is confortante charge my mobile while I'm in the office..
Sincerely, I don't know why in the p20 pro there is not at least this option... In fact I read will be integrated with the new mate 20
I would definitely recommend for you to wait and see what the Mate 20 Pro will offer. I am expecting a fairly good phone from Huawei. They have made a few videos targeting the Note 9 so I'm guessed they have something up their sleeves. Also it will have a bigger battery than the Note 9 and also a more efficient SOC being the new Kirin 980 developed on a new 7mn architecture
Only (huge) problem from my POV is that Huawei does not allow unlocking of Bootloaders anymore - so cannot Root or install custom ROMs on Huawei devices - I hope this changes soon.
This factor alone tips it towards the Note 9 for me. Now patiently waiting for a decent price drop - hopefully by November/ holiday period.
sam213 said:
Hi guys
Actually I use a galaxy note 8 but in September. I need to change it because expire the rent signature.
So, I'm looking for a new smartphone.. And the 2 smartphone that I found are note. 9 or p20. Pro..
It's true that are 2 different product.. And the p20 has not the spen.. But I don't use the s pen top much..for work I started to use a iPad with the apple pencil and I think is better for my use.. The display is bigger than a smartphone display...
So, if I forget the spen functionality.. What is your suggestion? P20 is cheaper (not too much) and his camera is better.
Otherwise, I'm started to use galaxy series or note series 8 years ago, the first one was galaxy s1.... Actually the UI for me is easy to use...I'm scared I loose some function with the p20..
Can you give me your consideration?
Thanks
Sam
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I suggest, with respect, you don't make any purchase based on reviews or forum posts for anything you purchase from mobiles to socks. We all differ and it comes down to what your needs are rather than what you want or others suggest.
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I suggest, with respect, you don't make any purchase based on reviews or forum posts for anything you purchase from mobiles to socks. We all differ and it comes down to what your needs are rather than what you want or others suggest.
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Ciao Ryland
Sure, I don't purchase note 9nkr hauwei depending of. The forum. Review, I already found this 2 device after personal. Consideration, also I have already the galaxy note 8, so I know the device.
Because are 2 really interesting phone, and because I use for job and personal use the camera, I just ask the opinion of the other person of the forum, because for example test the camera is impossible and I can only as ask a feedback from somebody that already tried both.
For this reason after some consideration read here in this thread I take the decision to buy the note 9 and I wrote this comment... Because some users told me a feedback regarding a feature that I can't test myself.. Sure I must believe to this person.. But I think also this is the spirit of the forums, no?
huawei's software is trash (and with that locked bootloader stuff u cant even flash custom roms lol), that alone is enough for me to not buy a huawei phone
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huawei's software is trash (and with that locked bootloader stuff u cant even flash custom roms lol), that alone is enough for me to not buy a huawei phone
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Rooting is a waste of time in this day and age. If you need to root a phone you are a million miles from a typical user.
The P20 pro is not as good as the Note 9 I would agree, but the software is fine, as is the Note software.
If you need to root then get a Nexus 5 or something.
With regards to the rest of this thread, for me the pros and cons are:
Note : Faster, Slightly better screen, Headphone Jack
P20 Pro : Better/ Louder sounding speakers, Much better camera in ALL scenarios barring indoor low light. Less noise, better zoom, better overall quality, much better low light.
I have both phones right now, and honestly if the P20 pro had better video recording and was a little less laggy on graphics intensive stuff, I would use it as my main phone. BUT the note 9 is a more polished phone and is better in almost all ways barring speakers and photos.
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Rooting is a waste of time in this day and age. If you need to root a phone you are a million miles from a typical user.
The P20 pro is not as good as the Note 9 I would agree, but the software is fine, as is the Note software.
If you need to root then get a Nexus 5 or something.
With regards to the rest of this thread, for me the pros and cons are:
Note : Faster, Slightly better screen, Headphone Jack
P20 Pro : Better/ Louder sounding speakers, Much better camera in ALL scenarios barring indoor low light. Less noise, better zoom, better overall quality, much better low light.
I have both phones right now, and honestly if the P20 pro had better video recording and was a little less laggy on graphics intensive stuff, I would use it as my main phone. BUT the note 9 is a more polished phone and is better in almost all ways barring speakers and photos.
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im not talking about rooting at all, im just talking about ROM's in general. Huawei's stock rom is trash, while the samsung one has become very good over the years.
Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
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Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
Regards
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mate 30 pro
In my Opinion I would choose the P30Pro. The OP7TPro doesn't have IP-Certification and no wireless Charging.
Given the current status of the world order- Oppo
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In my Opinion I would choose the P30Pro. The OP7TPro doesn't have IP-Certification and no wireless Charging.
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Absolutely agree. I would add that if you care about battery life, you should totally choose P30 Pro. As a con, the user interface is ugly and not fluent. Buuut, the Android 10 update is on its way, it should land on it very soon.
Larlen said:
Hi guys,
I am looking to get a phone and upgrade from P20, I am thinking of either OnePlus 7T and P30 Pro.
Any recommendations or opinions from users?
Personally:
I wanna go for OnePlus because of the OS, it is much cleaner and I enjoyed my three OP I had in a past.
I was thinking of P30 Pro due to camera.
Based in UK if that matters.
Regards
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Definitely 7T, it has worse battery life (still amazing if you charge device every night), camera (depends, p30 has better camera hardware but postprocessing is ****-oversharpening, oversaturated etc... On the other hand 7t's camera is still awesome, not as much detail, zoom or night capabilities but still amazing, honestly majority of flagship phones these days take amazing looking photos with very little difference) and it has no IP rating which doesn't mean anything because it's still waterproof just not certified, even phones with IP rating get water damaged and warranty won't cover it so I don't think it's deal-breaker. Also, OnePlus UI (Oxygen OS) is miles better than buggy EMUI, and support for it is also awesome unlike on Huawei devices.I have got P20 pro(last year flagship) and they almost totally abandoned it, no update for like 3 months. So I would definitely take OnePlus 7T. You can also unlock bootloader on it and have support from XDA developers for another +-4 years.Maybe much more
EDIT: Almost forgot about 90Hz display, that's another awesome feature of 7T
Camera, battery, ip rating(op failed on real ip68 test), features, ir blaster, wireless charging VS 90hz display, sd855+, oxygen os(close to stock, if less is better), longer future support and updates.
Unfortunately p30 pro tends to yellow the photos at night and with certain artificial lights, I myself took p30 pro and I'm thinking of making the return to take op7t
Funny that I was on same boat, and yesterday went for the P30 Pro to replace my Note 8.
I was really about to go for the 7T Pro, since everything is better on that phone out of the camera. CPU is better, screen is much better (90Hz), sound is real stereo and just great, Oxygen OS is far better, everything including video...
Unfortunately, camera sensor is crap. Photos are ok but not an improvement to my Note. I already turned back a S10 for that same reason, and my main use for a phone is photo! And after a full day and about a thousand pics already, I am convinced that I have made the right choice.
The P30 photos are not better than the Note at x1, but everything above is much better. It has weaknesses, sometimes colors are getting washed out, you can see it on the screen, looks perfect and all of a sudden loose their 'pop'... Huawei interface is real crap, but I can leave with it.
So it all depends by how photos are important to you. If just decent photos are ok, and you are mainly a video guy, go for the OnePlus, this is a great phone, but if your main usage is photo, P30 Pro is the only choice!
Yeah I was super set on the P30 pro but then discovered that the bootloader is locked beyond hope so I dunno. I really want the great battery life of the p30 pro and camera though
Now that I'm using dark mode on app such as Instagram and Google foto I earned 1h sot. Look at here!
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Am in the same boat (based in UK too). OP7T Pro McLaren version out next week which looks great in the promotional video but think I'm still tending towards P30 Pro... here's my logic:
P30 Pro pros:
better camera with all 3 back cameras supporting RAW
3D TOF sensor
IP68 Certified - good enough to shoot in a pool
P30 Pro cons:
Locked bootloader so no root possible (am mainly looking to block ads though and there are options via DNS)
OP7T pros:
Root possible
McLaren version looks cool
Higher spec in general
90Hz screen
no front camera notch
OP7t cons:
bit heavy
no IP rating although it sounds water resistant
Stock camera OK (only main lens will save RAW)
GCAM mod won't support all 3 lenses
I'm on the same boat as well. Both have it's pros and cons. I say get the one which has the best support in your area. In the last 7 years, I never had a phone that did not return for warranty - and I had plenty (Sony Xperia, Pixel, Pixel 2, P20 Pro, IphoneX, Samsung 9)
I'm now waiting for a decision on Nov 19th which could see ban lifted between US and some Huawei products. Maybe that could put Mate 30 Pro on the table if it receives Google Play Services.
Take oneplus you will not regret the choice, take p30 pro youll'find a lot of bad things -Yellowish tint in photos
-Update never get costant {updated from 8 August received on 11 november (September patched) with no other improvement/bugfix} even oneplus 3t (3yo phone is Better supported),
-Updates breaks camera: dgital zoom gives now black photos in lowlight... Before update the camera saw more than human eye, now It barely focus.
-Pulldown gesture on home to get notification and Quick tiles.
-2019 smartphone miss double tap to sleep on lockscreen.
-Lack of something to turn on Torch when screen off... (Partly solvable with external applications like Button remapper).
-In "monocromatic mode" even of you use supersensing camera (the principal one) yuo can't go further 6400 iso, so in dark conditions if you want to see something you need to switch in Pro mode and raise the exposure time increasing the blur.
-If you like to shot 16:9 Remember that you suo at 6MP
-Sometimes I don't receive SMS, and they all arrive together after restarting the phone
As an old owner of Oneplus One (still using It) and Oneplus 3t (for sale) I regret not having chosen oneplus again
Just to say one, I did some tests in night mode with the gcam on oneplus 3t and with the p30 pro ... In some situations the 3t won. More accurate color, more capabilities to zoom the photo after shot.
I hope, really really hope, that emui 10 Will solve most of thesw things... For now I'm very disappointed
Hi,
Coming from HTC10 then Sony XZ1 and XZ2 then finally this P30 Pro offered by my company and...
All I have to say is that this phone is the best I have ever owned and this in all conditions.
Battery life is tremendous 10h sot even while gaming.
Just went to NYC for personal trip and took more than 1000 pics and only 5 to 10 were missed due to my shaking hand because of the cold.
I also went to Madison Square Garden to a concert and video and sound recorded are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing I could regret is my phone is a branded phone (sfr) so they are late to push updates.
Apart from that everything is terrific
Make your choice and go to a sell shop to compare them by your own as every people is having a different usage and expectations.
But my personal opinion Huawei beats the OP7T... As I said it is only my personal opinion.
chrisftlse said:
Hi,
Coming from HTC10 then Sony XZ1 and XZ2 then finally this P30 Pro offered by my company and...
All I have to say is that this phone is the best I have ever owned and this in all conditions.
Battery life is tremendous 10h sot even while gaming.
Just went to NYC for personal trip and took more than 1000 pics and only 5 to 10 were missed due to my shaking hand because of the cold.
I also went to Madison Square Garden to a concert and video and sound recorded are absolutely fantastic.
The only thing I could regret is my phone is a branded phone (sfr) so they are late to push updates.
Apart from that everything is terrific
Make your choice and go to a sell shop to compare them by your own as every people is having a different usage and expectations.
But my personal opinion Huawei beats the OP7T... As I said it is only my personal opinion.
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I went to Prague, take almost 1060 (photo+video) after cleaning the album only 580 start. And in some conditions i takes random shoto with oneplus 3t gcam (better result than p30 pro)
I just returned 2 oneplus 7ts both had green tint in top half of display in dark mode poor battery life as well and camera OK but nothing compared to p30 pro and battery life
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Until OnePlus add an always on display I could not consider one tbh.
The P30 camera will be better too and with black Friday deals right now the price difference is not as big as has been before.
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Hey guys!
I hope I'm in the right place to post/ask this. But I honestly don't know any better place to go to.
At the moment I am to decide between the Mi 8 (6/64GB) for 170 € and the Mi 9 Lite (6/128 GB) for 200 €.
I already ordered, received and set up the Mi8 and the good price for the Mi 9 Lite just appeared recently.
The Mi 8 definitely has a better performance due to the SD845 (vs SD710) and has WiFi MiMO, an OIS, as well as apt-X and costs 30 € less (at least for me). Likely due to its release date there also are way more ROMs and Mods available for the Mi8 already.
Mi 9 Lite on the other hand supports LTE Band28 (which will become more and more important in Germany), has better camera sensors, a bigger battery, an infrared blaster, SD card support, a drop notch, an audio jack and, well, in-screen fingerprint (which I guess is nice but not that important) and it was released about 1 year later which could lead to longer software support.
So there's very much points arguing for the Mi 9 Lite. But:
Does the premium SoC of the Mi 8 guarantee more updates over time then the Mi 9 lite?
Is the camera of the Mi 9 Lite really better than on the Mi 8 as OIS is missing?
Is the in-screen fingerprint more imprecise than fingerprint on the back?
Could apt-X also be applied to the Mi 9 Lite? (one day I read about it being implemented in LOS by default)
Thanks in advance for your help and opinions on this question.
Kind Regards,
Seyron
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
k3lcior said:
Not sure about Mi 8 but Mi 9 Lite has stunning display, it's the biggest selling point IMO. (Samsung's AMOLED)
And yes maybe Mi 8 has faster chip but SD710 is WAY more power efficient, with bigger battery it will make tremendous difference. And it's not that slow either.. (about 220k in Antutu)
Cant really speak for camera because i dont use it that much but the resulsts i have been getting are more than satisfactory (even at low lighting with night mode)
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Thank you very much for your fast answer!
Referring to this post the Mi8 also comes with an Samsung AMOLED, though I can't find much other reliable information elsewhere that would support this statement. Phonearena seems to be the only specs listing website that states it, too, as being produced by Samsung. However it's my first AMOLED device and I therefore can't compare to others. I've declared to myself that my next phone definitely would be one for under 200 € and would have to come with an AMOLED screen, which now, thanks to the special offer for the Mi 9 Lite, is met by both devices.
Yeah the battery point is a powerful one. I get 1.5 days of battery lifetime at most with low usage while I got almost 3 days out of my Redmi Note 4 when I didn't use it much.
Also B-S-G - afaik the most popular developer for GCam ports - is developing the GCam specifically for the Mi8 (among other devices) which almost guarantees a most recent and working GCam version for it. But I only can tell that the image quality is way better than it was on my Redmi Note 4, which on the other side just would be very devastating if it wasn't.
It'd also be worth mentioning that due to the different vendors I'd have 2 years warranty for the Mi 8 (Amazon) but none to a maximum of one year for the Mi 9 Lite (Banggood).
https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
what I can tell you about Mi 9 lite is : the screen is top , fingerprint on screen ( no need to turn your phone when on desk ) battery is xxl , microSD port , Irda port ( tv remote ) I use Nova rather than miui launcher and this phone is nearly perfect for what I do.
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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https://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPhone1=9065&idPhone2=9862
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As I pointed out I already compared both phones myself using gsmarena and just summarized the main differences upon which I wasn't able to make a decision.
kesc said:
mi 9 lite:
Under screen Fingerprint sensor is neither fast, neither accurate and not convenient IMO;
I get aprox. 2 days battery life under light usage;
Camera is better than Samsung A50/A70 series, but I don think it is perfect;
It seems it is not primary phone, which gets best support (still android 9 vs mi 8 got android 10 officially);
Display is not perfect, but much better than Mi A3
Ambient light sensor (mounted under screen) does not for as good as on samsung phones;
In 1 month I got 3 random phone crashes /reboot.
I would probably go with mi 8.
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Thanks for your input! I have to say that just recently a colleague ordered and received his Mi 9 Lite and the In-Screen-Fingerprint seems to be quite fast and accurate at first glance.
Camera on the Mi 8 using GCam is amazing. Especially when compared to my old Redmi Note 4.
And as this is my first Amoled it also looks amazing, but I have no comparison.
I also face sudden SystemUI reboots on HavocOS on my Mi8 about once every two to three days.
seities said:
hey. i've had both. i don't know about the band 28 situation so i can't comment on that.
Let me start by saying that I think CC9/Mi9 lite is a missed opportunity for xiaomi. It was positioned a bit awkwardly for marketing. It's evidently not sold very well and if xda is any indication, community support is also fairly low.
Yet to me it is the most "all-rounded" phone from xiaomi in 2019 (nope, not 9t/9tPro, which are very popular), checking off all the marks for me: samsung oled, great cameras front (better than mi9) and back, beautiful build and design of the Mi9, SD card, headphone jack, big battery, good battery life, midrange prices, etc. To me it was nearly perfect (except perhaps a year old SoC instead of SD730), or as perfect as I expected from Xiaomi anyway.
Except the fact it doesn't have strong community support. I've got it about 3 weeks after its China release. I am still waiting for official pixel experience or any AOSP rom to have stable releases. I am stuck with MIUI variant roms which are stable but I personally crave pure android. That and the fact there isn't a really reliable working GCam support, nor do I know of one in development (please correct me if I'm wrong).
This makes a huge difference because I shoot a lot with the phone cameras. Right now with GCam, I get more technically impressive photos from a lower priced Redmi Note 7 than the oversaturated painting I get from Miui's own cameras, and that's from a technically inferior Samsung GM1 sensor.
As it stands now, it depends on your usage and preferences. I personally wouldn't mind the Mi8 myself, especially if it's cheaper, except they are no longer available in these parts of asia (sold out). I think Mi8's faults are that the 845 isn't as efficient, and the battery is smaller, resulting in less run time. Yet it IS a flagship, which means potentially better build, better parts (it has a LRA vibration motor vs cc9's cheaper rotary motor), world bands gsm (where cc9 has a more regional bands selection), and more community support. The camera is an IMX363, same as on pixel 3 and 3a, so it's no slouch: while it has lower resolution on paper, it really just skipped the need of marketing driven pixel binning by having larger pixels to begin with. (Personally I think the apparent race toward higher megapixels as a strategy for xiaomi is completely misguided if not deliberately misleading). Post processing would be what makes or breaks the results, and with mi8 you can get full GCam support. In fact with pixel experience rom and gcam, you'd probably get nearly identical pixel 3 experience for a bargain. While 4000mah battery would be nice, pixel3/3a does just fine with similarly small sized batteries and oled. So it may just come down to better optimization.
oh, the underscreen fingerprint sensor is just crappy and unreliable. There's a reason why it's not as widely adopted. It's not a miss if you have the capacitive ones instead.
I personally would love a well supported phone, so my pick today might become mi8. As much as I love the cc9/mi9lite, it coming onto the stage too late in the cycle after all bases are covered makes it a bit of an orphan when it comes to development. I don't personally use the headphone jack but I would miss the SD card slot. Screens are similar, brilliant Samsung OLED. In fact I think Mi8 was touted as one of the best displays from Xiaomi in terms of color accuracy. If you don't care as much about community support/aosp roms, and is content with MIUI and its camera app, then CC9 is really as good as they come this year. From the way the new xiaomi phone looks (redmi k30, cc9 pro, rumor of mi10), such thoughtful and balanced design is probably going to be a rarity in the up coming models.
Hope this helps
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Wow! Thank you so much for your efforts taking time to write such an detailed and honest opinion.
Talking about the Pixel Experience ROM I took a look into that and counting from release date of the Mi 8 it took about 6 months for a stable and official build to be released (May 2018 -> 25th Nov 2018).
Depending on the Mi 9 lite being released in Sep 2019 one could give it 2-3 months from now on compared to the time it took the Mi 8 to get some Official ROM support. As far as I can see the first unofficial custom ROMS for the Mi8 dropped in Oct 2018 which is 5 months after release whereas the first unofficial LOS build appeared just recently for the Mi 9 Lite. Therefore it only took the Mi 9 Lite 4 months to receive its first unofficial LOS build. So it looks like the support and development isn't that bad.
But yet it's still hard to tell how much (xda community) popularity the phone could get in the near future.
For me the battery life is one of the most convincing reason to buy. It was so satisfying to reach up to 3 days with my Redmi Note 4 without having to charge it once. I know this depends on usage but I always got at least 2 days if I wasn't at home gaming on the phone all the day.
Oh and yeah - you name it - the feeling of the vibration motor is so smooth and from the first moment on gives a so much more premium feeling than I experienced with the one in my Redmi Note 4. And yes the fingerprint scanner on the mi 8 is very fast and accurate.
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I agree with the reply above. Had I known that the CC9 has no Camera2 API Level 3 (only "full", which doesn't support all features making GCam development very limited), I'd probably have gone for the Mi 8. They were both at the same price when i bought the CC9, and though I enjoy having a bigger display and battery, most of the time I wonder if I'd be better off with smaller ones but Level 3 API (full support for GCam, which is important to me since I've come from a RN7 that took better pictures than the CC9), a way stronger processor and better build quality. The points that made me choose the CC9 instead were simply the teardrop notch as opposed to the huge forehead on the Mi8 and the bigger battery, as I use the phone to work on the street. Also it's a newer phone. But every now and then I question myself if I made the right decision. You'll have to weigh these points and see what is most important to you and your way of using the phone. But either one you take, you'll be making a tradeoff. Think it through patiently so you don't regret it later.
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Interesting point. But isn't this just depending on the ROM/software or is this a hardware issue?
I already somehow adapted to the forehead notch. I found it quite ugly the first to days. And it still is. The teardrop notch definitely is way more attractive. I guess it's missing the IR front camera, though (not that it would be that important/useful). And are the speaker, proximity sensor as well as light sensor positioned under the Amoled somewhere?
Hello there,
My main phone just broke, and for now I can't afford a recent flagship, although I have two options for my budget. (both the same price)
As the title says, I have to choose between a Huawei P20 PRO [128 gb / 6 gb RAM] and a Samsung Galaxy S9 [Exynos 64 gb/ 4gb RAM] (not plus).
So, I would like to ask you if I can get some guidance, I have read reviews and watched a lot of videos, but I'm still not sure...
I'm interested in a reliable device, a day battery for me is enough, a great all rounder camera in any condition.
I just have some concerns about the Huawei device, no OIS, no headphone jack and no Micro SD slot is a really turn off for me, but I would like to know if the experience overall compensate this. For the Samsung, I have seen that night or low light pictures are not as good as the Huawei (if any of you have switched between these two), and so is the battery (3000 mAh vs 4000 mAh).
Thanks in advance, I would really appreciate your answers.
Hi there, I actually owned the Samsung S9 but it was the Plus version. I wanted to get rid of the P20 PRO but I was very disappointed by the Exynos processor. I could not get 1 day of battery with it no matter how many apps I disabled. I learned then that the Exynos processors are not good when it comes to power consumption, they eat the battery up so fast. Also, the night photos were very very bad with the Samsung. The photos taken during day time were also bad whem zooming in full resolution. They had a weird pencil drawing texture. The only thing I liked about the S9 was the smooth zoom and the video quality. However I went back to the P20 PRO. Although the P20 PRO does not have the OIS in 4K mode, I learned to live with it and bought a Feyu Tech hand stabilizer. Combined with the Open Camera software, the P20 PRO is a great phone for filming. But only if you shoot in manual mode, auto mode tends to give noticeable fluctuations in exposure. Also, the sensor size really helps when shooting raw photos. You can crop so much from them and still get clear results thanks to the 40mp sensor.
As a person who lives in a region where Samsung sells the Exynos version of their devices, I can tell you that they are pure garbage and it's a scam that they are priced the same as the Snapdragon devices.
I used Samsung for many years and Exynos devices are one on the main reasons I switched.
Huawei are not flawless, but unless you are sure you can't live without rooting your phone, it's worth to consider.
P20 Pro will work faster than S9, it will last full day with no issues and will give you better photos in most cases.
Yes, you lose the headphone jack, it's a bummer, but you learn to live without it (future is now, baby). You can't expand the storage, but you get double for the same price and there are cheap/free cloud solutions, so worth checking if they suit your needs. The UI is not perfect, but compared to Samsung I'm not sure what's worse.
P.S. Did you check OnePlus devices at the same price point?