Hi all.
I have written a comment to another created threat in mi 9 forum, but I would like to read your comments here too.
I'm having battery draining and SOT problems with my mi 9, like I said in title (like most people I think).
I have tried everything to improve my battery life in my mi 9, and It's not bad at all, but I was expecting better performance for a top xiaomi smartphone with sd 855 and 5 months old in spite of the fact that it has "only" 3300mah battery ...
I'm not a heavy user and I try to get max SOT and minimum battery drain in all my phones, because I don't like changing smartphones very often and I like to take care of it.
I came from a Moto G4 plus, and I had 5h of SOT in 48h without high standby drainage (maybe 1-2% of drainage overnight in 7-9h) with a 3 years old battery and worst hardware and software. In mi 9, I'm getting 5-6h of SOT in 48-72h. Not bad at all, but standby drainage is awfull. It loses 20-25% of the battery every 48h (3-5% overnight), and in a smartphone with such a fair battery it's a problem. If I'm not getting great results with not heavy use and my smartphone is new, I don't want to think in 2-3 years + mid-heavy use ... I have tried everything (full wipes, reinstalling, the most powerfull battery saving, etc) and I don't have great result. Standby drainage is very hight compared to other phones (I have tried a friend poco f1 and I had 10h in 48-72h with 1% overnight drainage. It was awsome).
And now the question ...
I'm thinking of changing my mi 9 for a huawei mate 20... I still have the 30d Amazon refund and I am not comfortable with my phone's battery.
- Mate 20 pros vs mi 9: +700 mah battery and more efficient, the best ips panel without burn-in problem, and fingerprint sensor behind the screen (no like too much in-screen fingerprint at all).
- Pros mi 9 vs mate 20: sd 855 (but geekbech it's very very similar, and antutu winner is mi 9 only for gamming but mate 20 still on top), unlocking bootloader for mi 9 (better comunity in xda, but if emui works well I think I don't need custom rooms, the problem here is Trump/google vs China ... but now apeares to be solved and we would have newer updates to Android Q), wireless charging (I don't use it because smartphone is hotter when charging 3-5º vs cable+1,5a charger, It takes more time to charge with elevated temperature), not jack (better for waterproof), maybe very little better cameras in mi 9 and little better results, 4 months younger (very little difference) and It's the top phone on xiaomi (mate 20 is the little brother because we have mate 20 pro, 20x, p30, p30 pro and we will have soon mate 20 and mate 20 pro; and that could be worst because we will get latter uptdates in mate 20).
What do you think? Would you change mi 9 for mate 20? Reading your comments. Greetings.
If your looking for better battery life I'd say get the mate 20. I've had mine for just under 3 months. Best damn purchase I've ever made (purchased way below retail during trump ban). I consider myself a medium to heavy user (I don't play mobile games however). With some useless features turned off and some fetch services disabled. I can easily get 8-10 hrs on screen time with this phone, it's the best battery life I've ever had, prior I was getting 4hrs with another Android phone.
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If your looking for better battery life I'd say get the mate 20. I've had mine for just under 3 months. Best damn purchase I've ever made (purchased way below retail during trump ban). I consider myself a medium to heavy user (I don't play mobile games however). With some useless features turned off and some fetch services disabled. I can easily get 8-10 hrs on screen time with this phone, it's the best battery life I've ever had, prior I was getting 4hrs with another Android phone.
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What about heat and performance?
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What about heat and performance?
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Heat? I haven't had any issues with heat if by that you mean does the phone get too hot to touch, it's cool the majority of the time. As for performance, EMUI 9.1 is very smooth and I haven't had any slow downs ??.
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Heat? I haven't had any issues with heat if by that you mean does the phone get too hot to touch, it's cool the majority of the time. As for performance, EMUI 9.1 is very smooth and I haven't had any slow downs .
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And what about temperature playing PUBG mobile for example 30 min? Have you tried?
Really thanks!
quiquetdelcampet said:
And what about temperature playing PUBG mobile for example 30 min? Have you tried?
Really thanks!
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Sorry bud I don't play games on my phone, wouldn't know.
quiquetdelcampet said:
And what about temperature playing PUBG mobile for example 30 min? Have you tried?
Really thanks!
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After 30 mins of Asphalt 9 the device is damn cold... Could even be used as a cooler
xphy32 said:
After 30 mins of Asphalt 9 the device is damn cold... Could even be used as a cooler
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Just a month ago I had Poco F1. On the battery Sot was similar to the 20 mate. Night drainage in Poco 1-3%, mate 2-5%. Mate saves better on screen on. Performance similar to Poco. If I had to exchange Mi9, it was on mi9t Pro.
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Just recieve mine yesterday. More than 10h SoT in a single charge. ¡Insane!
For some reason all the real consumers are having great battery life but it is not reflected in benchmarks tests done by the "reviewers".
Can you compare your battery life with similar usage on the phone you used previously ?
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For some reason all the real consumers are having great battery life but it is not reflected in benchmarks tests done by the "reviewers".
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Well only reliable review so far has come from gsmarena.. all other tests are amateur/random tests, but gsmarena has a history/experience and most importantly reliable test pattern judging from my own experience.
Phones which score in between 80-90h in gsmarena battery test (https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3) are top tier 1 phone in terms of battery performance in real life based on my experience. I change phones almost as often as socks , so my statement is valid.
From my personal experience and usage pattern phones, which score in between 80-90h in gsmarena battery test, have SOT of at least ~5 hours in the heaviest of usage and up to ~8 hours of SOT in more relaxed scenarios. Like for instance OP5 constantly gives ~5 hours of SOT, but when you have long youtube usages together with heavy usage you reach the mentioned ~8hours of SOT.
My usage pattern -> Mostly whatsapp, youtube, chrome, some Spotify and Waze with BT, Location, SYNC always ON.
True the battery life is among the very top league in any case where there are only few top range phones (mid-range phones are not a fair comparison).
That said the we have yet to get an explanation as to why the bigger 4000mAh size battery advantage is not reflected into battery life advantage against other competitors despite Huawei promoting it big that they have a 4000mAh against their competitors. Also why the promised 30% better battery life than Mate 9 is not showing yet. I am eager to read the Anandtech review which is the best in breaking down the details when it comes to explaining all this but on the other hand im hoping they wait 1-2 months for more stable rom before doing their tests.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/mate-10/how-to/battery-life-thread-t3695518
I only use 'daily use' to check the battery life.
I try my best to use it as a normal person and after that i use it how i use it (heavy).
I'm not a fan of benchmark and software to test smartphones, it doesn't always give you the right answer...
Didn't the moto z play get a bad battery review from a benchmarking review site? I used that phone heavy for almost 2 days on a single charge. it was insane!
Even though gsmarena review of Mate 10 pro is not out but they have updated their specs and the battery test score is listed now. Mate 10 pro gets a 96h, making it an undoubted beast in battery life. So if all true, then the FHD+ oled combination did help over the Mate 10 standard. And also for comparison, the smaller 5.5 inch display Mate 9 pro which was QHD had a 87h score.
https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
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Even though gsmarena review of Mate 10 pro is not out but they have updated their specs and the battery test score is listed now. Mate 10 pro gets a 96h, making it an undoubted beast in battery life. So if all true, then the FHD+ oled combination did help over the Mate 10 standard. And also for comparison, the smaller 5.5 inch display Mate 9 pro which was QHD had a 87h score.
https://www.gsmarena.com/battery-test.php3
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That's great,i think they are preparing Mate 10 pro review cause i saw some Video test on YouTube
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I am eager to read the Anandtech review which is the best in breaking down the details when it comes to explaining all this but on the other hand im hoping they wait 1-2 months for more stable rom before doing their tests.
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Yeah Anandtech is the best. Made me buy my Mate 8 though the 10 is coming because it's obviously a huge improvement over 2 generations. I bet they will have a review up by January. Bit late but thorough as usual.
The non pro version is worst than the pro in battery life ??
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The non pro version is worst than the pro in battery life ??
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2k screen kinda takes its toll on the battery.
robogo1982 said:
2k screen kinda takes its toll on the battery.
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No it's really oled efficiency
How is the mate 10 non pro (LCD) battery compared to the Mate 9 as it also has LCD?
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How is the mate 10 non pro (LCD) battery compared to the Mate 9 as it also has LCD?
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I had the Mate 8 9 and 10. Have to be honest, the battery on the 9 sucked but the 10 is amazing. I was initially reserved but just the other day i was down to 25% by end of day and i have about 4.5 hours SOT. This was a first for me and i did not do any tweaking. Ive never had a phone go past 3 hours SOT and i have cycled through a ton of phones. So if you're an out of the box guy with only a few simple tweaks like wifi, bluetooth and gps off, this phone is going to be a dream. I left the screen at 2k mind you.
So can we all agree if the Mate 10 gets an average of 5hrs + of SOT then this is what is expected of a 4000mAh battery?
Is SOT the best measure for battery life or is standby/usage hours (eg: 16-18 hours use) the better measure?
I get mixed SOT between 5 - 7 hours max.
My usage is around 17 - 18 hours max.
I would say I am a heavy user.
How on earth people get 10 hrs SOT baffles me.
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How on earth people get 10 hrs SOT baffles me.
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just learn to ignore that its always been like that (user posting crazy,in-explainable SOT times), even with phones which have the ****-yest of battery life out-there.
I look at this the following way - if my phone has +5.5" screen I am more than happy if I get ~5-7hours of SOT during heavy usage
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just learn to ignore that its always been like that (user posting crazy,in-explainable SOT times), even with phones which have the ****-yest of battery life out-there.
I look at this the following way - if my phone has +5.5" screen I am more than happy if I get ~5-7hours of SOT during heavy usage
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I'll lean to ignore your pessimism while enjoying my 10+ hours SOT
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I'll lean to ignore your pessimism while enjoying my 10+ hours SOT
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Even if that were to be true, I don't care as long as I hit ~6-7hours of SOT with my usage pattern.
Don't get me wrong. I am not trying to challenge/refute your statement or the result you can reach. See, usage patterns vary from person to person, therefore I tend to reserve my judgement whether this or that phone is bad in terms of battery life before I actually use it. The only source I do trust judging from my own experience is gsmarena battery test -> any phone that has gsmarena endurance rating in between 80-100hours will be great SOT/battery life performance wise for me. Phones in that endurance rating range have always been great in terms of SOT considering my usage pattern and I consider great any phone that can do ~6hours of SOT on a 5.5"+ screen . That's about it.
p.s. one great example of SOT results was my experience with OP5. With regular daily heavy usage I was getting ~6h of SOT on single charge, but when I mixed in super long hours of youtube that same cycle would be give 10h of SOT, but it would be rather misleading to claim that OP5 is a 10h SOT phone, since its simply better @videoplayback in terms of battery consumption.. usage patterns differ from person to person and the results vary a lot depending on what the particular device is better at..
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The non pro version is worst than the pro in battery life ??
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Seems weird, but I could be on 1 of the 2 things: display efficiency or resolution.
Resolution, strangely, didn't affect other phones that much.
But this can be testes with EMUI by lowering it to FHD, according to other members here.
I can't verify this, but when I buy this phone, if it's possible, I'll definitively lower the resolution. (I can't notice the difference)
The non pro is still almost no where to be found in Europe, right?
I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
Please post your consumption
With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
It looks as though not having you're screen on 90hz makes a large difference.
On average over 21h usage I'm getting 7 to 8hours of SOT but then the battery will be about 10% my screen is set to 90hz spo I must use a lot of power.
That's one hell of a mobile phone order :good: how is the Samsung ultra which do you prefer? How is the build quality between the two which feels better?
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It looks as though not having you're screen on 90hz makes a large difference.
On average over 21h usage I'm getting 7 to 8hours of SOT but then the battery will be about 10% my screen is set to 90hz spo I must use a lot of power.
That's one hell of a mobile phone order :good: how is the Samsung ultra which do you prefer? How is the build quality between the two which feels better?
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Feel is subjective. Both in cases so can't really feel. P40 being smaller is more comfortable.
That snapdragon gpu is a beast. And that phone never gets above 35c whether fast charging or games. P40 pro is about 3 to 5 degrees celcius hotter generally.
They both play any game easily. When it comes to difficult emulator games the snapdragon is a few frames better
The p40 pro is more efficient even with smaller battery, I'll try 90hz tomorrow
S20 ultra looks more premium, just. Has better sounding speakers too but the p40 pro is louder
The p40 pro has a better camera. Not by much, generally better zoomed in pics. Much better low light and better focus ?
Leaning towards keeping the p40 pro
Samsung have had a focus problem on there phones since 9 series devices...
I'm not sure whether to send the p40 back and keep the note 10+ or not??
I do prefer emui over Samsung ui
You can see the difference in the power drain between 90 hz and 60hz on the attached photo. 60hz being the bottom power drain.
I have also noticed that you can turn off 5G up in the quick settings which might save some power? No point having it turned on when hardly anywhere has 5G
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You can see the difference in the power drain between 90 hz and 60hz on the attached photo. 60hz being the bottom power drain.
I have also noticed that you can turn off 5G up in the quick settings which might save some power? No point having it turned on when hardly anywhere has 5G
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That does look substantial. I'm checking this myself. I prefer EMUI too can't stand Samsungs new battery info layout
Started another battery cycle with the screen set to 60hz and 5G off. And after 1 hour of usage and 1hr of SOT I'm at 98%!
Very interested to see the results tomorrow evening.
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I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
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With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
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if your ultra is exynos its not suprising you get bad battery life out of the s20
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if your ultra is exynos its not suprising you get bad battery life out of the s20
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It's snapdragon
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It's snapdragon
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well that is more bad then cause the snapdragon is the best one with regards to s20 ultra but i know their optimization is really not good maybe thats why you get bad sot
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well that is more bad then cause the snapdragon is the best one with regards to s20 ultra but i know their optimization is really not good maybe thats why you get bad sot
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It's not bad with the snapdragon. It's good actually. It's just better with the p40 pro
Which one are you sticking with the s20 or the Huawei?
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Feel is subjective. Both in cases so can't really feel. P40 being smaller is more comfortable.
That snapdragon gpu is a beast. And that phone never gets above 35c whether fast charging or games. P40 pro is about 3 to 5 degrees celcius hotter generally.
They both play any game easily. When it comes to difficult emulator games the snapdragon is a few frames better
The p40 pro is more efficient even with smaller battery, I'll try 90hz tomorrow
S20 ultra looks more premium, just. Has better sounding speakers too but the p40 pro is louder
The p40 pro has a better camera. Not by much, generally better zoomed in pics. Much better low light and better focus ?
Leaning towards keeping the p40 pro
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Yes I believe snapdragon still better for gaming. Only problem is our area only have the exynos varient
My Mate 20 Pro with 4200 mAh was easily the best smartphone that I owned in terms of battery life. I also used to have a Honor 8 Pro for a while and it had good battery life as well. So I'm not surprised that the P40 Pro's battery life is great. Maybe it's because of Huawei's "aggressive RAM management", not sure.
I don't think the p40pro is in the same league as the mate 20 Pro that things battery was epic.
I have the p40 pro. Everytime it reaches 13%, i know it'll run out of battery soon, less than 5 minutes. Is this happening to you too? Cause it's really frustrating. My old p30 pro never did this...
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I've got both the S20 ultra, with its 5k mah battery and the p40 pro with its 4.2k battery. I'm getting better battery life from the p40 pro ? so far anyway. Latest 114 update is on the p40 pro
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With 50% left this ain't bad at all. I am using 60gz though, I see no real benefit of 90hz. So minor to my eyes. No Google installed either
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I'm in a similar if lower specced (but only just) kinda of boat currently using the Samsung note 10 lite and I just got the P40 non pro this week.
Battery life is definitely way better on the P40. The Samsung I'm using very lightly right now (mainly yt music and regular phone calls) and it doesn't last that much longer than the P40 which is in use almost all ways. If not it's probably a hot-spot or always on display or both.
Turning off 5g definetley makes a difference. I'm in London so I have 5g almost everywhere but even with 5g disabled and lower battery usage I'm seeing really fast connection speed (over 700B/s)
Really want to make a test of the ultra pow energy mode. My phone thinks it can achieve ove 60 hours run time from 69% battery charge. If that's really possible just wow.
I haven't tested a lot of games yet but I have fired up xplane. It ran perfectly looked gorgeous in this tiny pixel dense screen and hardly used the battery faster than browsing. Got some emulators too they run like honey and the phone doesn't even get hot at all so far in the emulators I've tried.
So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
Try disabling all power management.
In Developer options>standby apps all buckets should show as active otherwise power management is running.
Google Play Services, Backup Transport and Framework are known hogs.
Disable all the bloatware, turn off auto sync for gmail, turn off all feedback.
You'll need to sort it out and optimize it. Took me months to get my 10+ sorted out. Fortunately it's running on Pie so I had more diagnostic options.
Returning is a thought as 5G may have been poorly implemented and another source of power drain. I think everything after the 10+ 4G both hardware and OS are train wrecks... I see very little incentive to "upgrade".
Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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So I bought the new S21 Ultra on the pre order the day it was announced. I was one of the lucky ones to get early so I could leave a review.
Coming from a Note 10+ that I had for a year and a half, I was really excited for the S21 Ultra, but was really disappointed with the battery life. I've had the phone for 5 days now and since the very beginning I've not been able to use the phone for the whole day on a single charge. It's been giving me screen on times comparable to my Note 10+ (4/5 hours) which is a much older device, but I thought maybe this was the way all S21 ultra's were behaving, just not very good battery life.
BUT, yesterday all the youtubers started to publish they're videos comparing batteries with older S devices and Iphones and their S21s were doing amazing, giving them screen on times of up to 13 hours!
I contacted support but they said this would be normal as my phone was still learning user patterns... but I'm not sure if that would affect it as bad as it is at the moment.
Also, I installed accubattery which is not 100% reliable but compared it to my note 10+ and it seems that battery health is even lower that my Note (95%)! Which I've had for a year and a half!!!
What do you guys think? Should I send the phone back? I'm really concerned that I just spent all this money on a new phone for it to be so bad with battery.
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Maybe post screenshots that aren't below 5 kilobytes. Lol. I'm guessing you have an Exynos variant?
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Sorry about that ahaha changed it now
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It's too early to judge the battery life, also accu battery app is not good at all, it's not accurate as your own phone's batterymeter.
Also, you need a week or so to make sure the phone get optimised according to your usage.
Does your phone have Exynos 2100 or Snapdragon 888?
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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I suggest doing a factory reset before you think about sending the phone back. Also, initially, be careful about what aps you install - try going with a minimal number of aps so you can get an idea of how the battery does when there are no aps that might pull from the battery - after a few days, add all of the aps you have been using (while avoiding any that might be a battery drain) and try for a few more days to see if you are seeing improved battery life. Good luck - hope it all works out for you.
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Reloads -never- find the root cause and many times even if the problem is "fixed" it eventually returns.
Exceptions; old loads, software induced bootloops, viruses, and major firmware updates.
Expect issues with the 5G devices from poor hardware implementation. No fix for this.
I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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How much with screen off is it sucking down?
If more than 1% @ hr with AOD on it's probably Google and cloud crap running in the background.
You can optimize it to improve performance.
It's easier to do this with Pie though; Q and 11 take away critical tools and use scoped storage which wastes cpu cycles.
Get Karma Firewall and a package disabler like this one;
Home - Package Disabler
The only NON-root solution that let’s you disable any unwanted packages that come pre-installed / installed with your phone / tablet.
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Regardless of the model or OS version most carrier phones will need to be optimized for good battery life and optimum performance.
My 10+ was a hot running bandwidth hungry hog until I toned it down. Today it's hard to believe it's that same machine.
You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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Mine has the Exynos 2100. I was just going off from videos like Mrwhosetheboss. He got 8 hours of screen on time. And he probably tested it when he got the phone no? And I'm litteraly getting half of that... and not even pushing my phone to the limit like he did on his video. I mainly use social media apps and YouTube.
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Well, i believe what you are saying about battery life, but what i have seen so far is promising, i mean when S21 Ultra with Exynos 2100 beats iphone 11 Pro Max and 12 Pro Max, i guess that's a good sign!! But for sure, we use our phones in different way than each others because maybe you use it with 4G/5G enabled almost all the time while these tests are just using Wifi and maybe without any SIM card which means the battery consumption will be minimum at this part.
I have S20 Ultra with Snapdragon 865, i get like an average of 6 hours SoT and if S21 Ultra Exynos gives me the same SoT, i'll be happy!!
SOT is not everything...we travel, we move, you cant accept a phone that gives you 12 hours of standby in total. This is bs and useless, you cant rely on such a phone.
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You are right, I agree with all you said. It is kinda sad though, as for instance, my ex Asus Zenfone 7 Pro had an absolutely mindblowing battery life, without any tweaks. I just used it. With all the hype around the S21 Ultra, I believed it again. The only Samsung I used with good battery life was S20 FE 5G.
Will give it a go with what you say though, thanks.
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My AT&T 10+ was not real bad (or good) the first few days. After enabling power management it went to hell.
Eventually I disabled all power management and one by one tracked down the hogs.
Because of dependencies simply disabling and/or turning off say Google Transport and Google Framework isn't enough, firewall blocking Google Play Services* then clearing data on all 3 periodically finally stopped this hog dead in its tracks. These will run in the background when the screen is off stealing power for nothing. Sometimes the Google apks are misreported as other Google apks presumably because of the interlinking dependencies.
Try using Galaxy Labs Battery Tracker.
Developer options>running apks/cache can also yield clues. With an unrooted phone there's some serious game playing to track this garbage down.
Anything app that's cloud or carrier is bad... lol.
Disable all feedback and syncing except for texting; manually sync gmail.
*needs to be unblocked occasionally for gmail to download and for Playstore (another apk you should disable/firewall block when not using).
Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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Try disabling 5G if you are not using it, for some ppl SmartThings drain a lot of battery but you should see that app in log. Can't wait to get mine, also E2100 and coming from Note 8. Was rly looking to have a 2 day phone.
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That's a thought that's worth a try.
From what I've read even disabling 5G doesn't completely stop it's parasitic battery drain.
Maybe the latest generation chipsets are better but early 5G was poorly implemented giving a marginal speed increase on most phones of 20% when available.
Is this on the snapdragon or exynos variant?
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I am on the first charge, but the battery life is so far pathetic. Omg! And everyone on youtube praise it... Down to 85% in 2 and a half hours and 50 minutes of SOT. Shame...
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
My 10+ draws roughly 1%@hr* with AOD on.
SOT draw varies between 9-12%@hr
Roughly 10%@hr watching vids on Samsung internet with surfing on Brave being the highest usage.
I consider it fairly optimized at this point.
*4300 mAh battery with little degradation.
No 5G running on Pie so not scoped storage either.
Figures are from a charge range of between roughly 40-65% as I rarely charged beyond 70% or discharge deeper than 30%.
Actual usage be more if I had started at 100% because of the power density difference through the power range ie 1% at 20 is far less watts than 1% at 100%.
A/V=watts. Less voltage means less overall mAh per % plus the additional losses due to voltage stepup power conversionas you dip towards 30% The closer to 100%, the higher the voltage with more available mAhs per battery% as well as less stepup voltage power converter losses.
A phone's wattage and V+'are constant so as the battery voltage decreases it draws more current ie mAhs.
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So, 15% drain in 2.5 hours with nearly an hour of SOT. 15% is about 1/7 as a fraction. Now, 7 * 50 / 60 = 5.83 hours of SOT and 2.5 * 7 = 17.5 hours total. My Note 10+ (S20 Ultra on order!) doesn't do any better and NEVER did. If I use my phone for 6 hours a day (of SOT) it's pretty much done for.
I think people are being way too picky these days - just complaining to complain. If you really want I'm sure you can tune your phone so it gets 3 days on the battery. It'll suck and not do much of anything but, sure, you can do it. I've got a smartwatch and the same thing applies. I can tune it so it works for two weeks on the battery or I can actually use the thing and get 2-3 days. I choose 2-3 days and have stuff I want to use. I'd rather my phone be reactive and tell me when I've got emails, etc than to get super long battery life and basically have an inert brick in my pocket. I have a cellphone so I can use it for stuff. If that makes the battery not last long, oh well. If it can get 5-7 hours of screen time while also lasting through the day, great.
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You are also right, but , when you used something that does both keeping you up to date, and having a brilliant battery life, then it becomes disappointing when you change it for one that doesnt.
Hi, thanks for any help.
I'm between a mi 11 or a OnePlus 8/9 pro and the only thing I'm concerned about is whether MIUI might be a bit buggy or 'incomplete' feeling - seen mixed things on the forum. I've read many of the reviews so know most of the basics re battery / camera etc.
Generally with the stock ROMs do people find they have any frequently annoying issues?
It's also a bit quieter than other phones with custom ROMs - is that because it's a newer handset or is it unlikely that these will be developed?
People generally happy with their purchase?
Thanks for your help
I would recommend the OnePlus 9 Pro, the Mi 11 has AWFUL battery life.
Wahoux said:
I would recommend the OnePlus 9 Pro, the Mi 11 has AWFUL battery life.
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My battery life is normal/fine.
Wahoux said:
I would recommend the OnePlus 9 Pro, the Mi 11 has AWFUL battery life.
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What do you mean?
For me mi 11 is the phone with best battery life of all phones I had. I think battery is very good, but probably if you are a heavy gamer it won't last that long. But then no phone will last 2 days with top performance. It is like wanting a race car but no gas consumption.
I find the battery life good enough I get around 6-7 sot that must be around similar to other high end using similar spec also don't forget this actually is cheaper , fhd 120hz , fhd because I cant notice the difference
The battery life is really not that bad.. It easily lasts me through the whole day, with 5-6hrs of SOT (120HZ, 1440P resolution always on) Also the included charger is really fast, so even if the battery life is not the best, it can be easily fully charged in 35-40minutes.
Hi folks.
Aight m11 battery is pretty horrible ngl.
I got my m11 with miui 12.5. 1st day I got it battery dropped to 40% within 5 hrs with 30 mins sot.
I was sad phone trash.
Next day was better but very buggy battery still drain not as bad was at 60% after 5 hrs 1hr screen time.
Next couple of weeks playing with it.. Trying to figure out better battery usage but why should I its a flag ship phone?
Battery was still very buggy sometimes drained 20% over night sometimes it was fine. Got miui 12.5 enhanced slight improvement.
I got all excited waiting for miui 13. 1st impression very good. But battery life sot averaging 4.5 hrs 100% to 5%. Idle time very good too.
But now I got oneplus 10 pro. Yes oneplus had extra 500mah but I get more battery out of it ngl. Whole phone is better and I use it the same.
So my question is it the cheap hardware xiaomi use like battery for not so OK sot.
Or is it the software? Because miui 13 hella improved battery life and is very stable compared to 12.5.
And the roms on here will they have noticeable better battery life? People should know the difference between miui and own roms sot. I'm tempted to try it
I have a few months old Mi 11 Ultra with miui 13 and I am experiencing the same problems...
I think it combination of bad battery and software.
The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.
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The 20% drop at night is a sure indication that something is running in the background... that probably doesn't need to be.
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Yes it was random sometimes did sometimes didn't. Yes but miui 13 fixed idle consumption.
My oneplus 10 pro 96% battery life 40 mins sot put it that way. And 80% is when the battery drains the least
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But my battery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.
Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
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Most Samsung phones need to be optimized for best battery life.
Xiaomi's likely has to be as well. You need to find the power hogs and deal with each on a case by case basis.
Using manual brightness control helps save your eyes and battery.
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I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship
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Yes my brightness is at 30% inside now. But mbattery still alot better. But I don't understand why some xiaomi phones have great battery life with same spec as other phones but not the Mi11?
I have auto Brightness on hence 30% brightness inside. And I looked on my battery settings and nothing was running on Mi11 I've done nothing to my one plus 10pro and battery pretty good for a flag ship
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It's may well the firmware or factory loaded software. However it could be 3rd party apps misbehaving. Google apps tend to cause battery consumption troubles...
Android give you a lot of freedom to configure them the way you want. Cookie cutter Apples doesn't so it's easy for Apple to optimize their products. So with Androids the end user needs to pickup the slack many times and find work arounds or setting changes.
Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low
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Yes but even if I use my phone straight off charge its still roughly 6hrs sot indoors (no sim) WiFi only 20% screen brightness. When I used it outdoors with sim 4.5 hrs if that . So I don't think non sleeping apps where doing it. I look on my battery usage and it says my apps used 3600 mah battery including screen with 25% battery left with 4.4hrs sot. So no mis behaving apps.
It might sound good but my screen brightness super low
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You need to see how much each app and service are using, then figure out why. It takes some time and effort to track them down... a learning curve.
FB, WhatsApp, all social media apps should never be installed on the device. If you can't access them using browser login, forget them. They are nothing but trouble...
Yes bro I checked had enough of mi 11 no apps causing trouble checked for months.
Idle consumption very good lose 0% over night sometimes. I thought miui 13 would have substantial battery increase but only fixed idle consumption.
I thought maybe they would optimize battery usage better like Samsung 21 ultra.
My oneplus 10 pro is on 2hrs sot with 40% brightness and 84% battery life. Very good battery life no need to worry bout it dying when I'm out
Its not me thinks mi 11 battery trash too 90% reviews say to and GSMarea gives it a rating of 84hrs and the one Plus 10 pro 104hrs battery endurance
Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?
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Now back to my original question is it xiaomi cost saving software optimization trash or battery hardware cheap?
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You won't know until you work with it more trying to optimize it.
This Note 10+ was a hot running battery hog until it was optimized. It gets 7-8% @hr now when browsing with Brave. It took months to finally dial it in. Over a year to really get it right.
A lot of work. My second N10+ was a snap to optimize as I knew what to do.
One thing I do is not to upgrade firmware* or app updates as this can start another cycle of trying optimize the new firmware/apps. I'm running on Pie and Android 10, malware is not an issue.
*if I have a fast, stable OS... I let it be!
R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused
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R u serious. What do u mean optimize? Putting apps to sleep isn't really optimizing.
Ur trying to improve battery when only really the developers can fix it.
Yes putting it in dark mode 60hz putting everything to sleep not running nothing fun having brightness on 0% will improve battery life but experience will be trash.
My oneplus Pro 10 is out the box restored all my data whatsapp 3 emails with sync on 4g nothing optimized. Screen brightness normal too (I want a good experience)
battery optimization or battery hardware is great. The layout skin in oneplus 10 pro its faultless too and looks alot better than xiaomi.
Other hand is xiaomi mi11 definitely a cheap battery or lazy developers to cut costs hence the price but one plus 10 pro is same price. But other xiaomi phones r very good battery life so I'm confused
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Global power management never worked for me, disable it and deal with each power hog on a case by case basis. Limiting background data/battery usage in individual app settings doesn't invoke global power management.
Some apps like Brave browser need to be closed after use or they continue to run in the background. I disabled Google play Services unless needed. I use a package disabler to kill anything bloatware or other apps/services that cause trouble and aren't needed.
I never said it was easy... there's a steep learning curve.
Dependencies; disabling a parent app/service can have far reaching consequences, good or bad. Try to understand what you are disabling.
Acquire or use the already loaded the tools you need to help find the trouble makers... play with it.
Definitely ****ty software, battery backup is much better on AOSP-based ROMs.