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The Huawei P8 is the brand new high range model presented by the Chinese company in May, a device with which doubtless they are pointing high, for its design and finished as well as for the chosen hardware.
We must bear in mind the big bet they did with the previous model (P7) which achieved quite poor results. By the other hand I must also say that those results were understandable due to the difference of performance with the main phones from the competitors.
Huawei is a very big and consolidated company, although not precisely known by being a smartphone manufacturer. A market where they've been working for years, improving yes. But not yet giving the stroke.
They are in fact missing something that other Chinese manufacturers (much smaller and unknown) are already doing: present a real flagship phone.
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If we look around the other brands, from the big players (Samsung Galaxy S6Edge, Apple iPhone 6 Plus, LG G4, Sony Xperia Z4/Z5, Lumia Cityman...) to the small and last arriving to the battle field (Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, OnePlus One, Meizu MX 4 Pro, uleFone BeTouch 2, Elephone P8000, UMI Iron...) they all have a unique device representing the company values and... all that the company is able to achieve (technologically and in terms of design speaking). So... why is Huawei taking so long? But most important, will the P8 be a real and worthy candidate?
Design
The new design is very different from the one used on the P7, they go away from the use of crystal surfaces and come closer to the trend of metal, each time more common in high range terminals.
In the front, the screen takes almost all the space (71,63% ratio screen-front), with the secondary camera, the light sensor and the speaker on the top... and without any physical button on the bottom part.
The left side is completely naked, nothing in there. Leaving the volume and power/lock buttons on the right side, where we will also find the slots for memory (microSD) and SIM. On the bottom side we have the plug for the USB cable and the hands free speaker, so we will find the jack connector for audio on the top side.
When we turn it down, on the rear part we find just the main camera (one of this device's treasures), which is completely integrated into the surface, not protruding even a little, together with the dual LED flash on the top, and the Huawei logo in the middle area.
The finished on aluminum results very elegant and fits very well on the hand, although the truth is that due to its big size of 5,2”, we will need both hands to manage comfortably the phone. Must also say that with just6,4mm of thickness the P8 takes the tittle of thinnest of its category.
Hardware
All the manufacturers have smarten up in the last months. Starting with the 64 bits processors that enhance the Android Lollipop experience and of course a good dose of RAM memory to ensure a good performance at every moment.
Model P8
OS Android 5.0 with EMUI 3.1
Processor Huawei HiSilicon Kirin 930, Octa core with 4 cores @2GHz and 4 more @ 1,5GHz
GPU Mali-T628 MP4
RAM 3GB
Screen 5,2” IPS LCD FullHD 1920x1080, offering a density of 424ppi with 16M colors
Storage 16GB of internal memory, expandable via microSD card
Cameras Main camera of 13 Mpx, OIS, sensor RBGW, Image Signal processor DSLR-level, 1080p video recording/1080p video playback; F2.0; Flash color temperature dual. 8 Mpx for the front camera
Connectivity Wi-Fi 2.4GHz b/g/n with Wi-Fi Direct support // BT 4.1+LE // MicroUSB (Hi-speed USB) ; TDD LTE: B38/B39/B40/B41 (2555MHz~2655MHz) // FDD LTE:B1/B3/B4/B7 // UMTS: 850/900/1700/1900/2100MHz(B8/B5/B4/B2/B1) // GSM :850/900/1800/1900MHz
Other sensors GPS/A-GPS/Glonass/BDS(BeiDou Navigation Satellite System)
G-Sensor, Gyroscope, Ambient light Sensor, Proximity Sensor, Compass, Accelerometer
Battery 2680mAh
Dimensions 144.9x72.1x6.4mm
Weight 144gr
Price Between 499€ y 520€.
What probably attires the most my attention is the use of a proprietary SoC (System on Chip), instead of using the popular Qualcomm Snapdragon or the (almost equally popular) more economic and with good performance MTK from Mediatek. This can be a very profitable point for Huawei, since if it works well, it will provide a great performance for the P8 , but also will show the sector that the Chinese brand can made competitive SoC, providing them with more revenue if other brands bet for using them.
Use, performance and battery
As starting point, outline that it comes with Android Lollipop 5.0, however it's equipped with the last version of Huawei customization layer, called EMUI 3.1.
From the first EMUI versions, the improvement on fluency and suer experience has been notorious, in addition to that, they have included (or improved) a few applications. However it also implies that we will find duplicated tasks and apps in our Android (something that not only happens with EMUI), meaning a bigger load of our system.
The truth is this can happen with any launcher we install, so while the performance and agility of the smartphone are good, it means no problem. Just remember that Android updates will take more time to reach us.
In the case of EMUI, it brings us an extra number of options to the ones included on any Android, so at the end we will have much more ways to adapt the device to our likes.
One of the main characteristics of this P8, comes precisely from its processor. Kirin 930 has the connectivity very present, so in every moment it can calculate and change to the network (data or wifi) which gives us more speed. For that, Huawei has equipped this model with 2 independent antennas, one of the top the other on the bottom, allowing the network change to be very fast.
Regarding the performance, the 64 bits of the Kirin 930 offer very high results, scoring higher than other models like the Galaxy Note S4 on AnTuTu benchmarks, and so, showing it can talks on equal terms to any terminal (mounting Exynos or Snapdragon). All the games, as well as FullHD videos are played smoothly... well with that hardware the remarkable news good be to have some kind of lag.
The 5,2” FullHD screen, maybe perceived as a weak point since other flagship models are starting to mount QHD panels. Nonetheless, viewing the clear quality of the image and the real density of pixels that we receive (424ppi) the experience is more than satisfactory, and surely it impacts on a lower power consumption.
Talking about the battery, after having tested a few smartphones with different battery capacity, I daresay 2680mAh are perhaps few. I have no doubts we will reach the end of the day, but a device of this category could easily have pointed to cross the 3000mAh barrier and, I'm sure any user would mind sacrificing a few tenths thick for that reason. Even though, Huawei promises one day and a half with standard usage.
Something to have in mind is that obviously when we demand it a lot (gaming or doing Skype for example) it becomes hotter, as well as any other smartphone. In this case, since it has that nice metal body and being so thin, the heat is distributed all over the smartphone surface, giving more feeling of warming than with other devices.
Cameras
This is, each time more, a critical point on every smartphone coming to the market. In order to achieve better results, manufacturers are choosing good sensors like the Sony IMX214. Nonetheless, we've already seen in many other cases that the sensor is not everything to take good pictures, imaging software is as important or even more (does anyone question the quality of 8Mpx sensor in the iPhone?)
In this case, Huawei has not share who's manufacturing the sensor or the camera, so we will simply focus on the result achieved by those 13Mpx.
The P8 comes with a optical stabilizer and has a few other improvements for low-light conditions, ultra fast shooting, or shooting without unlocking the device, time-lapse, panoramic pictures, etc. I cannot but congratulate them for the results shown, specially good when doing macro pictures. In general very sharp pictures almost without noise. True that the quality level delivered in the photography area was already very high with the Ascen Mate 7.
Even those low-light situations where almost all Chinese phones get out badly, the P8 takes very worthy pictures.
However, colors don't always look like I see on the reality, i t may be due to the dynamic range... or maybe because of the screen, in any case it's a clear point to improve.
Selfie lovers will be delighted with the 8Mpx front camera, in addition to the good quality , the device recognizes its owner face, and if we have enabled it, apply automatically some face-beauty filters when it detects it.
Finally, something very curious (and funny) is the function known as “light-painting”, capable of capturing the light during a pre-stablished time. So we can capture cars lights, stars moving,... or even what we draw using a lantern.
Conclusions
Huawei has chosen it as its 2015 flagship smartphone, so it's clear enough they have put all their talent on it, building a very serious and powerful device that can fearless face the main players of the season.
I have already mentioned the good performance, the screen quality and the great pictures we can take. In addition, the clear design and the metal finish give a premium image.
But (there are always buts), there are a few points to improve, starting by EMUI... which is not new. Every customization layer brings some differentiators over the competitors, but at the same time usually eats more resources and make the updates to arrive later. Huawei proposes some very interesting things on this version 3.1, and many users will like and use them. From my side, I would like it to be as any launcher available on the PlayStore, so if we don't like it, we can just remove it, but this is not the case.
On the other hand, the question with the heating, it's something known and not bad, but there will be a lot of users feeling their phone hotter than other models and will be worried about that.
Finally, which is at least for me the biggest fault... where is the fingerprint? If you really want to compete against the main players, don't forget to bring the same weapons. And almost all the high range smartphones nowadays have a fingerprint or TouchID sensor, as security mechanism.
It's a great terminal, meaning Huawei has received, analyzed and used all the feedback from previous models (specially P7) , also meaning they are working to bring their products where they see themselves.
The price varies depending on where we look for this phone and what extras we include on the package. Normally we should find it between 499€ and 520€. Don't forget to check if your order include shipping cost and other charges.
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In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
Update: winners chosen.
The (comparatively)small size. For the love of god everybody stop this large(-r) screen madness and making even bigger phones. I like to use my phone in one hand and this one is a welcome change, a bigger battery would have been welcome but sony has shown us that even on Android optimisation can do wonders so looking forward to that
DrGreenway said:
In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
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I'm using the Lenovo a6010 plus and my favorite thing about the all new Honor 9 Lite is everything. I love just everything about this phone especially the much smaller and easy to hold display size.
Tall displays are all the rage right now, but the screen estate is not always used by people. However, if you are into eBook reading, then the extra space will make for a better reading experience. If the OS is well optimized, then the battery backup will prove to be decent. I hope there might be OEM plastic backs for those people who are accident prone
The design and display and camera is pretty dope IMHO and i actually like the emui and its based on oreo!!yeyyy!!!
And dat back!!?
Right now I'm using a zuk z2
Specs at this price
Quad Camera and Display
Brilliant Quad Cameras and Beautiful Display. These are usual features about which a normal person will care and this phone excels in both.
Oreo + EMUI (*o*)
Edit: I will buy it anyway.lol.
I'm using HTC Desire 620G and Samsung galaxy s duos 2. The design is pretty sleek and is made of glass and is reflective. I mean the looks are good. I'm really looking forward for the camera and it is a quad camera setup and also looking forward for software and kernel optimizations made by honor when compared to other kirin 659 chips. First budget 18:9 phone from honor so excited to check its quality.
I'm using Pixel 2 XL now and I'm looking forward to advanced quad-camera and awesome infinity display of Honor 9 lite. And of course the headphone jack. I really miss it on Pixel 2 XL
If I win this, I'll support the device by building custom ROMs for it
Nitin
DrGreenway said:
In this thread we are going to give you the opportunity to win an Honor 9 Lite. One of Honor’s biggest launches in 2017 was the Honor 9. On January 17 Honor will launch the Honor 9 Lite in India. This phone will have all the spirit of the Honor 9 with a few changes.
Chipset HiSilicon Kirin 659
Display 18:9 1080 x 2160 pixels 5.6″
RAM 4GB
Storage 64GB
Camera Quad Lens: 13 MP + 2 MP, 1080p
Battery 3000 mAh
Find out more about this phone here and let us know what phone you're using right now and what you're looking forward to the most in the Honor 9 Lite. We will pick a lucky winner, based on the quality of their post and the number of thanks they receive.
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Really like the Size and display of the phone. The class finish of the front and back looks so gorgeous. And also out of the Box with Oreo is best out of the Best. It is having double tab to sleep and wake up features that every one asked for Kirin processor from Huawei. Worth for money.
Them cameras and stunning design!
Well, the minimal bezel is on trend and this is a boon as we have more screen to consume media or even use apps in split screen mode! But, the thing that excites me the most is dual front and rear camera and Honor promises a hardware level bokeh, so at this price range, it is a first I believe. Super psyched about those cameras. Also, a headphone jack! YAY! I'm using Lenovo Z2 plus now.
See basically right now using redmi 2 which 2-3 years old and for using oreo i have to flash custom roms from xda and developers have migrated to latest devices and with 1GB ram everyone knows how much it sucks
Can't take good selfies, imagine about those bouquet effect pictures with perfect background blur is a dream * I know google camera port is there but its for devices having oreo and 64 bit rom. Redmi 2 is having bugs in oreo to run camera firstly and secondly 64 bit oreo has not came
And battery its like charging and charging again and look wise is not good and display is old 720p display. And internal storage is 8 GB
With all that said i love the honor 9 lite coz its having all the features that my device is having very less
Awesome display,awesome looks,more battery,more ram,more internal storage too,better camera
I am using Moto g 2014.
I like the screen accept ratio of Honor9 Lite. It has beautiful look, efficient processor and excellent camera. Hope I will win
Hi, I'm using an Honor 8 right now, and I love it. What I'm looking forward the most in the Honor 9 Lite is the Dual Selfie cameras because I've liked the dual cameras on my Honor 8. Also, I want to try the 18:9 display, the screen on my current phone is good, and I would like to try the new aspect ratio. Finally and the most important, I want to try Oreo based EMUI 8, I'm really disappointed that my phone won't get EMUI 8 (based on what Honor India wrote), and because I want to try Project "Treble" (a HUGE thanks for @phhusson for his awesome work on "Treble", and also the EMUI camera port I want to try).
I like the 2160×1080 FHD+ screen with the 18:9 Aspect Ratio.
Time for Budget Level war between Honor and Xiaomi !
This is gonna be cool !
Honor 9 Lite, 4 Cameras, 4 Gigs of RAM, at that price! Seems to be a nice catch.
Huawei's on row of releasing high-end smartphones at low price!
Considering all the previous releases (7x,9,10), I guess this one's going to be a super-hit soon.
Like, now just when the crowd was going Whoa to dual cameras, here we have quad lenses! And that too front dual sensors.
Being a Lenovo's mid range (Vibe) smartphone user, I consider these specs to be that of a flagship. Mine powers a 3gig ram, 13MP cam(single lens tho ), 1.3 GHz of processor @ 13K!
A little drawback I feel is the battery. Hosting a very powerful spec, you'll need to have a long battery.
But, overall, it's a good deal for people trying to buy a new phone.
What I like about the Honor 9 Lite is the support given to the powerusers like me and many of us. Treble support and the growing quality of initiatiives make the mid-tier finally suitable for passionates, while additionally seeing such a quick implementation of fullscreen display makes it a thing to have quickly in own hands.
Chance to win for free on xda and the cameras I guess.
I've used my new Mi 11 Ultra (CN rom) for over 48 hours now and just wanted to say I'm very impressed so far. It's the first time I've used a Xiaomi device in over a decade and I previously had a Huawei P40 Pro for over a year. I ordered mine from TradingShenzhen and it took 9 days in total to land on my doorstep.
Screen: Amazing. Bright in sunlight, sharp, clear and just what you'd expect from an E4 screen. They weren't kidding when they said it can max out at 1700 nits if you really wanted to set it to that. Doesn't use a LTPO panel like the S21 Ultra does which would've made it even more power efficient but I suppose you can't have everything. Also, I wouldn't call the secondary screen a gimmick, but its features are certainly very limited at present so I've just put the default clock on and left it there.
Performance: Very fast. 12GB of LPDDR5 and the cooling system seem to be doing their job well as I remember Xiaomi pointing out that the SD888 runs hot on a lot of other devices in the market during their launch event.
I ran some benchmarks as shown below for curiosity and couldn't be happier with the numbers I was able to bench on it. I know real-world situations are more important but it's interesting to see the scores imho. I don't play a lot of games but I am a heavy social media user as well as happen to use my phone for work, so I do appreciate how snappy and quick everything is.
Cameras: One of the best I've seen to date, but sometimes I've noticed it's still not always consistent and reliable. Nonetheless the mains sensor captures a lot of detail due to its sensor size in almost all scenarios. You do get a really good natural bokeh effect too when shooting subjects up close, the ultrawide angle is incredibly wide at 12mm and Night mode shots are probably the best I've seen so far. The zoom is really great even though 10x optical would've been nice to have (even night mode zoom shots are decent due to its IMX586's 1/2" sensor size).
My housemate has an iPhone 12 Pro Max and I've found her phone to just be a bit more reliable and consistent. Occasionally I need to manually turn on HDR mode too as the AI won't toggle that on or maybe I'm just used to my previous phone's 'scene optimizer' feature automatically doing that for me and this behaviour of the Mi 11 Ultra is intended.
Another thing I've noticed is that camera module itself seems to get hot easily even just from taking photos. I'm not referring to taking shots back-to-back constantly or even recording videos and the shutter speed seems to have some minor 'lag' to it too which is hard to describe which is a bit annoying.
I'm hoping some software updates and optimizations will address this issue as we are still on very early firmware where none of the recent builds have specifically mentioned camera improvements from what I've noticed.
Call reception/signal: LTE, 5G and cellular speeds seem superior to my Huawei P40 Pro and when I try putting in my SIM to an IPhone 12 Pro Max, I get higher download speeds than that too. VOLTE and WiFi calling all working as intended for my carrier (EE).
Battery life: I still haven't fully stress tested it properly but the 5000mAh battery is looking good so far. Easily 7-8 hours (YMMV) SOT with 120hz, but at FHD+ due to personal preference. I didn't buy the official Xiaomi 67w wired charger as I already have a working 65w PD 3.0 from Amazon instead which works well (got over 75% in 30mins).
Build quality/feel: Love the ceramic rear back which you don't find on most flagships nowadays and even though it weighs a hefty 239g, it just screams quality to me as I'm used to big phones even though I have medium-sized hands. The camera bump is big and it's definitely going to be a dealbreaker or dealmaker for those who either like or dislike the look. I personally don't mind it since it's so unique looking.
Overall impressions: I'm a happy user (and customer!) and look forward to a couple of software updates which I hope will iron out a few issues/bugs I've encountered. The global version would've been cool to have but after spending several hours debloating, customizing and getting used to MIUI 12, it feels great and I've got no problems staying with the CN ROM since my carrier's bands are all supported on it and Google Pay is working too.
What I like
+ Beautiful and bright Samsung E4 panel with 120hz support
+ One of the faster SD888 phones out there with less throttling problems
+ First device to use the new Samsung GN2 main sensor and it captures so much detail
+ A huge battery with support for aftermarket PD 3.0 charging (I used a RavPower 65w charger)
+ Looks and smells premium and solid all-round with the Ceramic rear back and Gorilla Glass Victus on the front and back
+ MIUI 12 on the whole and its stock launcher is very speedy - I didn't need to replace it with Nova in the end
What I dislike
- Some annoying bugs/issues which I hope will be fixed soon: camera shutter button lags sometimes, the camera gets very hot quickly, my WiFi automatically goes to sleep after I turn off the screen despite turning off all battery optimization and restrictions under battery and app management settings and I can't record videos in the self-view of the secondary rear screen
- No 10x optical zoom (120x shouldn't be taken too seriously) - the 10x hybrid is still more than good enough for the most part
- Photos taken from the ultrawide's edges and corners are a bit soft and there's slightly more barrel distortion compared to my Huawei P40 Pro as well as my housemate's iPhone 12 Pro Max
- CN ROM had more junk than I expected - I had to use ADB/Fastboot Tools and SDK Platform Tools to debloat my phone and check which apps/processes were safe to remove and which were not
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Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.
Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!
shethsa said:
Thanks for your initial review. How reliable is Xiaomi for updates - especially the camera lag & heating up of the cam module? Those are serious enough issues.
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I've gotten about 3 updates since I bought it, mainly UI improvements and a few other quality of life changes. I'm also on the April 2021 Security patch already so I'm very happy with the pace so far.
The camera lag isn't too bad, I may have made it sound worse than it is as it doesn't always happen and seems to more of an animation/UI stutter than anything as it does end up taking the photo anyway.
Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.
mgbosshogg said:
Thanks for the thoughts. Great stuff.
The "shutter lag" has been discussed in a few videos, seems as you thought. It's an animation issue, the camera is actually taking the pictures quick enough.
Is there any other UK Sims you can try? Interested if the likes of ID and SKY will work with WiFi calling etc as they are the most limited usually.
Cheers.
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Yes, you're right. The lag I'm seeing is not too much of a dealbreaker as I'm sure it can be fixed via an update.
I have a Vodafone UK SIM from my work iPhone I've tried it with too. Unfortunately, I don't get VOLTE or 4G+/LTE no matter what settings I try but I do get VOWIFI and 5G on it. It might be because of the firmware/modem settings from what I've heard which stops me from getting 4G+/LTE.
I also tried a BT SIM too but as that piggybacks on to EE's network, I do get VOLTE, VOWiFi, 4G+/LTE without any issues.
galr said:
Thanks!
Can you please share sample images in 2X zoom?
I can't find any. I loved the 50mm lens on the Mi 10 Pro and was wondering how well this camera handles 2X.
Thanks!!!
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Here you go. I deliberately took the last two photos in those lighting conditions to see how it'd behave.
1x, 2x
1x, 5x, 10x
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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I'll take some more shots when I go outside as well.
galr said:
Thank you so much!!
That's interesting. So I guess it does not bin the pixels when using 2X?
The resolution is also 12mp for the 2X zoom so either they crop from the binned original image and then upscale, or the don't bin the pixels and then shrink the image or something..
Looks good. I order mine today.
Thanks again
Edit: I also noticed in the flowers image that the DOF is not as shallow in 2x compared to 1x. That's good.
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Added a couple more samples.
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Added a couple more samples.
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Thanks again!
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Brilliant. Thanks.
I took some various shots around town today.
Auto settings and AI mode enabled as before but this time I'm on 12.5.4 CN stable. I'm very happy with the results and can't wait for even more camera improvements.
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Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?
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@kyero985
Hi, I've the Pro version and was debloating like yourself, have you managed to get Hey Google to work? Not sure if I disabled anything for it to be greyed out but works fine if you click on the microphone icon.
Also are you staying on the cn rom?
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Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now
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Heya, I don't know as I don't like using voice assistants in general I'm afraid, so I actually got rid of that as part of my debloating spree.
Yes, I'll be staying on the CN ROM because it tends to receive OTA stable (and even stable beta) updates quicker. I don't want to worry about the unlocking, flashing and other update processes as I'd rather keep it simple even if the weekly EU ROM for instance has extra features and quality of life improvements. I'm very happy with my SOT and battery life now that I've removed everything I don't want on my phone now
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I know what you mean, had the same amount updates as yourself on 12.5.4 or something like that just trying to get everything the way I like as per my last Oneplus device.
Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.
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Can you guys confirm that Mi 11 Pro also has Dxomark camera update ? That the main sensor is same as ultra ? I've heard that software is different. Even though the main sensor is same.
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There has been a comparison here pre update
A sample of picture taken in lowlight direct facing light source. You can see the text behind
Got my Edge 20 a couple of days ago. Also have a OP Nord 2.
The front on Edge 20 looks really nice with symmetrical bezels and a nice looking punchole (compared to the ugly ring on Poco F3). However, I regret buying the version with a white back since it looks a bit tacky. Thinking about returning it and buying a black one.
Build quality feels better on Nord 2 due to the thin design of Edge 20.
The screen is very nice but I see not benefit of 144hz refresh rate (compared to 120hz or 90hz).
Performance and fluidity is really good. Feels almost like a flagship in that regard. Perhaps Nord 2 is a bit faster but only by a hair. Animations feels nicer on Edge 20.
Haptics are way better on Nord 2. Motorola used a cheap vibration motor on Edge 20.
Battery life on Edge 20 seems better than expected given the fairly small battery and large screen (with high refresh rate). However, it is too early to draw any sharp conclusions on battery life.
If I compare Edge 20 and Nord 2. Dayligt camera performance from main sensor more or less the same in terms of details. However, I think photos from Edge 20 are nices looking due to better white balance. Photos from Nord 2 have a yellow tint. Low light performance from the main camera is better on Nord 2 (brighter photos with more detail) However, it is possible to install gcam on Edge 20 and it supports all three cameras (BSG). This app improves low light performance for all sensors. Especially, photos from the telephoto camera looks much better with gcam. I think 3x zoom is very usueful and actually more useful than 5x. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/
flipp0 said:
Got my Edge 20 a couple of days ago. Also have a OP Nord 2.
The front on Edge 20 looks really nice with symmetrical bezels and a nice looking punchole (compared to the ugly ring on Poco F3). However, I regret buying the version with a white back since it looks a bit tacky. Thinking about returning it and buying a black one.
Build quality feels better on Nord 2 due to the thin design of Edge 20.
The screen is very nice but I see not benefit of 144hz refresh rate (compared to 120hz or 90hz).
Performance and fluidity is really good. Feels almost like a flagship in that regard. Perhaps Nord 2 is a bit faster but only by a hair. Animations feels nicer on Edge 20.
Haptics are way better on Nord 2. Motorola used a cheap vibration motor on Edge 20.
Battery life on Edge 20 seems better than expected given the fairly small battery and large screen (with high refresh rate). However, it is too early to draw any sharp conclusions on battery life.
If I compare Edge 20 and Nord 2. Dayligt camera performance from main sensor more or less the same in terms of details. However, I think photos from Edge 20 are nices looking due to better white balance. Photos from Nord 2 have a yellow tint. Low light performance from the main camera is better on Nord 2 (brighter photos with more detail) However, it is possible to install gcam on Edge 20 and it supports all three cameras (BSG). This app improves low light performance for all sensors. Especially, photos from the telephoto camera looks much better with gcam. I think 3x zoom is very usueful and actually more useful than 5x. https://www.celsoazevedo.com/files/android/google-camera/dev-bsg/
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Thanks for these first impressions. I will be receiving my Edge 20 after a few days! Waiting to check it out.
Can you post some Camera sample of Stock app vs Gcam on Edge20? That would be great!
Also what is the SOT you are getting as of now?
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Thanks for these first impressions. I will be receiving my Edge 20 after a few days! Waiting to check it out.
Can you post some Camera sample of Stock app vs Gcam on Edge20? That would be great!
Also what is the SOT you are getting as of now?
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The battery drops 11% per hour when the sceeen is on according to accubattery.
First is stock 3x zoom, the secod is BSG gcam 3x zoom without any tweaks. Results should be even better if someone releases a custom XML for Edge 20.
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Just got mine a few days ago. Battery seems to have settled now. I'm getting 5 to 6 hours of SOT. Battery drains about 10% overnight. I think because it's searching for signal.
Some pics come out better with stock camera, others with BSG gcam. Depends on the situation. Overall the cameras are good. Not quite flagship level, but pretty good.
Only gripe I have so far is that the wifi range seems rather weak, especially compared to eg. OnePlus. Near my router is fine, but when I even just sit just outside on the terrace it keeps dropping and reconnecting. My OnePlus keeps streaming video without any issues in these places. This is a real bummer and I'm not sure if I can live with that.
Other than that I love how light it is. Love the screen and the side mounted fingerprint scanner. It's very fast and snappy.
How about Hi-Res audio support? I have LDAC supporting oppo enco M31 bluetooth earphones. Would I able to enjoy LDAC through powerAMP app?
I will send back my Edge 20 tomorrow. Could not get used to the ugly white back and I do not want to use this phone with a case (the USP is how thin and light it feels in the hand naked). I may order a black one later. If the haptics would have been better I would have bought a black one ASAP.
How is the WiFi reception overall?
Wifi is decent, not exceptional. On par with Samsung mid rangers in my experience.
Only brand I owned so far with great wifi range is OnePlus. Both Nord and 8 Pro had great range.
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Wifi is decent, not exceptional. On par with Samsung mid rangers in my experience.
Only brand I owned so far with great wifi range is OnePlus. Both Nord and 8 Pro had great range.
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What about LDAC support and Hi-Res audio support? If not in-built, can you able to enjoy LDAC through third party apps?
I don't know tbh. I'm using wired OnePlus bullets connected to the charging port.
It should be fine though. I find the sound pretty good and pretty loud considering it's only got one speaker.
Using headphones the sound is as good as my OnePlus 8 Pro for me.
Does the BSG Gcam work perfectly? As in, do all the modes like Portrait, Night Mode, Time Lapse, Slo-mo, and Photo Sphere Work for all 3 lenses?
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Does the BSG Gcam work perfectly? As in, do all the modes like Portrait, Night Mode, Time Lapse, Slo-mo, and Photo Sphere Work for all 3 lenses?
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I just tried. Still photography works like it should for all three lenses. Portrait and night sight work too.
Video doesn't seem to work at all on the main lense. It's just a black screen. Can't work any of the buttons.
Video only works for the selfie cam.
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I just tried. Still photography works like it should for all three lenses. Portrait and night sight work too.
Video doesn't seem to work at all on the main lense. It's just a black screen. Can't work any of the buttons.
Video only works for the selfie cam.
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Maybe will have to try some other Mod which might work
Because without video it will get difficult, and I don't want to use the Stock app much.
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Maybe will have to try some other Mod which might work
Because without video it will get difficult, and I don't want to use the Stock app much.
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I'm so stupid... Video works fine on bsg camera. I had focus tracking enabled in settings which the Moto doesn't support apparently. So yes: bsg works fine.
Hey
Its good to hear edge 20 supports gcam with almost everything working
I suggest fellow edge 20 users to use the following gcam and check if these are working
1) 7.3 urnyx v2.1 wichaya v3.1
Or
Gcam 8.1 wichaya (latest)
2) greatness 8.2(latest)
3) camstellar greatness v4
4)Nikita 7.4 v2.0
Or Nikita 8.2 (latest)
5) 8.2 MGC parrot043 V8 from parrot's telegram group
6) tr camera (latest)
My suggestions
use a config file of a famous device (any one plus device) and load it in your gcam app , you can change the settings and aux values as per moto edge 20 later and adjust it so that it can work in moto
Or head to greatness's telegram where
ERAAF said:
Hey
Its good to hear edge 20 supports gcam with almost everything working
I suggest fellow edge 20 users to use the following gcam and check if these are working
1) 7.3 urnyx v2.1 wichaya v3.1
Or
Gcam 8.1 wichaya (latest)
2) greatness 8.2(latest)
3) camstellar greatness v4
4)Nikita 7.4 v2.0
Or Nikita 8.2 (latest)
5) 8.2 MGC parrot043 V8 from parrot's telegram group
6) tr camera (latest)
My suggestions
use a config file of a famous device (any one plus device) and load it in your gcam app , you can change the settings and aux values as per moto edge 20 later and adjust it so that it can work in moto
Or head to greatness's telegram where
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I am currently using the one by BSG v8.1
It works fine for all lenses, except that it produces that weird fisheye distortion with the ultra-wide lens.
Is there any fix for this? Or any alternative?
Yes, disable sabre from
settings
And developer settings
lucky_kuk said:
I am currently using the one by BSG v8.1
It works fine for all lenses, except that it produces that weird fisheye distortion with the ultra-wide lens.
Is there any fix for this? Or any alternative?
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That's great, I have also attached greatness 8.2 link with a config
Try this and reply
lucky_kuk said:
I am currently using the one by BSG v8.1
It works fine for all lenses, except that it produces that weird fisheye distortion with the ultra-wide lens.
Is there any fix for this? Or any alternative?
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Can someone confirm my observation as below -
The front cam has a fixed focus, causing blur on faces in a selfie which are not at the front. (Even without portrait mode)
This is resulting in useless selfies, as only the front person's face is focused and rest gets blurred.
And if anyone knows any workaround to this, it would be helpful!!
I just tried playing some 4k HDR 60fps demo videos on my Motorola Edge 20 (XT2143-1).
Most of them played fine but few of them (like the ones from the link mentioned below) were way off with lot of saturation so much so that it was difficult to even look at the screen while playing these videos. Tried playing on various apps like Google Photos app, VLC, MX Player, etc. but no luck. These videos are playing fine on other phones (I had checked on Redmi Note 10 Pro & One Plus 9).
LG 4K HDR Demo Chess.mp4
LG 4K HDR Demo - Colors of Journey.mkv
Samsung x RedBull: See the Unexpected HDR
But when I enable the option to "Show refresh rate" or when I turn ON "Disable HW overlays" from 'developer options', videos appear to play fine showing colours properly.
PS. Playing 4K HDR 60FPS videos on Youtube is fine and has no problem. The screenshots come out fine and not affected by this.
I appreciate if anyone who got this phone could check/verify this issue.
Thanks.
I will try to be simple for this review and give my opinion with no filter.
Build, Specs, Build Quality/Design
Unboxing
Specifications
Golden Ratio
Video tour
Screen
Performance
ColorOS and Connectivity
Camera
Battery
My thoughts
1. Build Quality and Design
Let’s start with a quick video unboxing of the OPPO Reno 8 Pro 5G:
As you can see, you will have in the box:
-Phone x 1
-Charger SuperVOOC 80W x 1
-USB data cable x 1
-SIM Ejector Tool x 1
-Safety Guide x 1
-Quick Guide x 1
-Protective Case x 1
All you need to get your smartphone ready to go.
Now, let’s go with the not-funny part, the specifications:
OPPO Reno8 Pro 5GUltra-Clear Imaging Processor: MariSilicon X NPU
4K Ultra Night Video
80W SUPERVOOCTM
Streamlined Unibody Design
MediaTek Dimensity 8100-MAXSize and WeightHeight about 16.12cm
Width about 7.42cm
Thickness about 0.734cm
Weight about 183gStorageRAM and ROM Capacities
8/GB12GB + 256GB
LPDDR5
UFS3.1
USB OTGDisplaySize 6.7 inches
Screen Ratio 93.4%
Resolution FHD (2412 × 1080)
Refresh Rate Max to 120Hz
Touch Sampling Rate 125Hz by default and 360Hz for gaming mode.
Some games support up to 720Hz with frame interpolation technology.
Colour Gamut Vivid mode: 100% DCI P3
Gentle mode: 100% sRGB
Colour Depth 1.07 billion colors (8 + 2 bit)
Pixel Density 394PPI
Brightness Normal: 500nits HBM: 800nits Peak value: 950nits
Panel Flexible AMOLED display
Cover Glasses Corning® Gorilla® Glass 5CameraRear
Main camera: Sony IMX766, 50MP, 1/1.56"; f/1.8; FOV: 86°; 7P lens; AF supported; closed-loop focus motor
Ultra-wide angle camera: f/2.2; FOV: 112°; 5P lens
Macro camera: f/2.4, FOV: 89°; 3P lens; FF
Front Sony IMX709 32MP, 1/2.74"; f/2.4, FOV 90°, 5P lens, AF, open-loop focus motor
Shooting Mode
Rear: Photo, Video, Night, Pro, Panoramic, Portrait, Time-lapse, Slow-motion, Text scanner, Extra HD, Macro, Movie, Dual-view video, Sticker, and Soloop Templates.
Front: Photo, Video, Panoramic, Portrait, Night, Time-lapse, Sticker, and Dual-view videoVideoRear
[email protected], [email protected]/30fps, [email protected]/30fps
Video stabilization: EIS, [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Video zoom: [email protected], [email protected]/30fps, [email protected]/30fps
Slow motion video: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Movie mode: [email protected]
Time-lapse video: [email protected]
Dual-view video: [email protected]
Front
1080P/[email protected] (Default: [email protected]; retouching turned on)
Video zoom: Supported
Slow motion: Not supportedChipsNPU MariSilicon X
CPU MediaTek Dimensity 8100-MAX
CPU Speed Cores 8 cores with a maximum clock rate of 2.85GHz (4 big cores + 4 little cores)
GPU Arm Mali-G610 MC6BatteryBattery
2 × 2185mAh/16.99Wh (Rated value)
2 × 2250mAh/17.50Wh (Typical value)
Fast Charge
80W SUPERVOOCTM, 65W SUPERVOOCTM, 50W SUPERVOOCTM, VOOC, PD (9V/2A), QC (9V/2A)
*Note: For regions that use a voltage of 110V, including Taiwan, North America, and Latin America, the charging supports up to 66W. (80W cannot be supported.)BiometricsFingerprint In-display fingerprint sensor
Facial Recognition SupportedSensorsGeomagnetic sensor
Light sensor
On-screen proximity sensor
On-screen optical sensor
Accelerometer
Gravity sensor
Gyroscope
Step recording function supportedCellular NetworkSIM 2 Supported
SIM Card Type Nano-SIM card
Frequency Band
2G: GSM 850/900/1800/1900MHz
3G: UMTS (WCDMA) bands 1/2/4/5/6/8/19
4G: TD-LTE bands 38/39/40/41
4G: LTE FDD bands 1/2/3/4/5/7/8/12/17/18/19/20/26/28/32
5G: n77/78/38/40/41/1/3/5/7/8/20/28 BlockA&BlockBConnectivityWLAN
Wi-Fi 6 (802.11ax), Wi-Fi 5 (802.11ac), 802.11a/b/g/n/; Wi-Fi 2.4GHz, Wi-Fi 5.1GHz, Wi-Fi 5.8GHz;
Wi-Fi Display and Wi-Fi tethering;
2 × 2MIMO; 8 Spatial-stream sounding MU-MIMO
Bluetooth Version Bluetooth v5.3, Bluetooth Low Energy (BLE)
Bluetooth Audio Codec
SBC, AAC, LHDC, aptX HD, and LDAC supported
USB Interface USB Type-C
Earphone Jack Type-C
NFC Supports reading from and writing to 13.56MHz NFC cards
Supports NFC-SIM card (Only supports SIM 1) and HCE paymentOperating SystemColorOS 12.1, upgrade to ColorOS 13Location TechnologyGNSS GPS, A-GPS, BeiDou, GLONASS, Galileo, QZSS
Frequency Antenna GPS: L1+L5, GALILEO: E1+E5a, BeiDou: B1I+B2a, QZSS: L1+L5, GLONASS: G1
Others AGPS, Wi‑Fi, Cellular, Digital compass
Maps Google Maps and other third-party map apps are supported
The OPPO Reno8 Pro 5G get you covered for all your day-to-day usage
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What we learned about these specs:
The Mediatek SoC, the Max Variant of the Dimensity 8100, but also the integration of the NPU MariSilicon X, only the Find X5 series got so far.
It means it is the 1rst one in the mid-range, or Reno series, to be equipped with it. While in China, the Dimensity Variant of the X5 Pro was without it. Interesting choice here.
The Dimensity 8000/8100 Series:
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You got your back cover. In the benchmark part of this review, you will have enough horsepower for 99.9% of your daily usage, including gaming. But here, I tried to understand the need for an additional NPU as the Mediatek ISP is more than capable in many photography scenarios (4K, 60fps, HDR10+, AI motion Unblur, Lossless Zoom, Dual camera recording with both in HDR…). On paper no need for it.
MariSilicon X, NPU by OPPO:
● Featuring best-in-class power efficiency, 20-bit ultra-high dynamic range, real-time RAW processing, and Enhanced RGBW Pro Mode.
● Enabling high-quality 4K AI Night Video and live preview on Android smartphones for the first time.
So, if you take a look at the OPPO Reno8 Pro 5G website, it seems OPPO markets the NPU as a powerful addition for:
4K Night Video
4K HDR Video
Night Portrait
Well, It might not be overkill, but hey, why not? We’ll see it later in the dedicated part.
The Design
The OPPO Reno8 Pro is a tribute to Antics maths and Archichecture splendor
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Since last year, OPPO has decided to adopt a unibody chassis with a dedicated form factor for the optical block. This year and for the Reno 8 series, they managed to improve it and got it right. I am a big fan of it.
Slim, lightweight, flat screen, well balanced, nice grip, and any flagship should be close to it.
The company communicates about Reno 8 Pro’s design and declares the smartphone is based on the Golden Ratio (1:.618). For a reminder, Golden Ratio is a mathematical proportion that is in its nature aesthetically attractive, used since Antiquity. OPPO added that its designers used the same proportion for the rear camera optical block but also for the handset form factor, horizontally and vertically, to create its pleasing aesthetic.
I will say the job is done here.
You can take a look at it in this video, and judge by yourself:
OPPO Reno 8 Pro 5G Quick TourI know flavors and colors. Personally, I really got a flagship vibe with this color and form factor. I can put it on a table, be casual, or work-ish; it will blend with any occasion.
So I have the Glazed Black variant; however, a second color exists, the Glazed Green.
Clearly, the Green one is a wonderful summer, splashy color and appealing too. Black is more classic but has a more day-to-day professional vibe. I’m more into mate colors than shiny ones like the Black Find X5. However, the X5 Pro was also glossy, so maybe a way to show the Reno8 uses top-notch materials and gives him a flagship feel.
Just for the beauty of it:
The Screen
Lot of Flagships should take example
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It’s flat. And I like it. Period. I’m fed up with this curved waterfall, edge, whatever the name. In a sense, the only purpose is to make the phone thin with small edges, thanks to this trick. But Reno8 Pro doesn’t need it. It’s already thin and well-balanced; the flat screen is absolutely the best choice here.
It’s a 10Bit Panel (8+2 to be precise) compatible 120Hz and up to 720Hz touch sampling rate (with compatible games that support frame interpolation tech).
100% DCI P3 or sRGB depending on the screen mode, 6.7 inches with HDR support up to nearly 1000 nits at peak (950).
I know flagship with lower luminosity than that.
Plus, it is Gorilla Glass 5.
For color restitution, by default, it’s too over-saturated for me, you can go further, or you can switch to more natural colors, a thing I’ve done. I’m pleased with it, especially under the bright sun, while riding my back and checking for navigation instructions with Google Maps.
It’s interesting to see this year’s mid-range products providing the same specs in so many departments, including this one, of past end years’ flagships or even surpassing some flagships that are only one year old.
2. Performance
OPPO Reno 8 Pro or a Flagship?
Why choosing, with the Reno 8 Pro, you got both.
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The Geek/Nerd paradise with numbers and benchmarks. First, in everyday use, I have no issue with this matter. The OPPO Reno 8 Pro runs smoothly for applications, translations, live transcripts, gaming, videos, or even photography. You got way enough horsepower here. It’s pretty much the same level of performance as last year’s flagship. No overheating, no throttling so far I’ve experimented. So far, so good.
Let’s start with AnTuTu:
No surprise here, The phone is top 10%, close to Oneplus 9 Pro under SD 888 and Oneplus 10R under the same SoC as the OPPO Reno 8 Pro.
AI Capability:
AITuTu:For a reminder, here is the last ranking available:
And now the result:
No need to go further, the Max variant of the 8100 got its AI boosted vs. the 8000, and it seems they did a good job (usually around 750K for the 8000).
Geekbench ML:In this case, Snapdragon 8+ Gen 1 hits 500/550 for CPU, 1800 for GPU, and Google Tensor around 1700 for NPU.
Geekbench ML wasn’t able to fully perform the NPU test, maybe due to the one from Mediatek and the one from OPPO, both at the same time?! I’m still wondering if it’s a software, app, or hardware issue.
Throttling?It seems not, even after a burn-in-test with CPU Throttle:
Now for gaming:I tried Genshin, The Division Resurgence, and some others. No lag, 90 fps, plus OPPO integrate some nice Gaming tools to change some settings and permit running them how they should be. It is compatible with Razer Kishi (What I used); the thin design and flat screen are just green lights for this. I enjoy more playing with it than some other smartphones. The battery was impressive too. When I played The Division Ressuregence, I played straight for more than 4 hours (with AC, my favorite license), and I was still able to use the smartphone until the end of the day.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ivision.mobile.combat.shooting.open.world.rpg
3. ColorOS and Connectivity
OPPO reached with ColorOS 12.1 the maturity needed to move to the next step.
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ColorOS… ColorOS… ColorOS
A second time I got this UI after the X5. First of all, Android 13 and ColorOS 13 will be available for this product. Beta starts in October. It should have 2 Major Android updates with four years of security updates, including A13. Usually, the security updates are only quarterly.
The first boot is Android 12, out of the box, with ColorOS 12.1 material design. You will surely have a D1 OTA (July Patch, in my case).
A few days ago, I received the August security patch with some corrections included.
It’s themed like many OEMs. However, you can see the Android 12 base behind the curtains and sometimes even Android itself with no customization.
However, when you dig into it, OPPO made many customizations in their system. Launcher, notifications, Icons, settings, smart sidebar, their own privacy sub-menu, including the Android functionalities. They have tons of applications such as OPPO Share, Omoji, gallery, video, even the clock, files app, O Relax (?), and so many apps like App cloner, App Enhancement, App services or others OPPO in-home system apk. Not mentioned on top of the Android Framework, you will also find an OPPO/OPlus framework to make all these works together (surely necessary for the Phone Manager that looks like the security center in MIUI).
We are on Google App for Android for the Phone Dialer and SMS/Messages APP. No OPPO system apps for that. And I like that. So, no debate here.
At first glance, all these apps are just giving the users some native functionalities Android already integrates into Android 12. And give the impression that they are reminiscence of a China firmware variant without Google services in this local market. But lots of them are marked as EU APK variants. And many system apps can’t be uninstalled (disable only). And all of them are not available on the Google Play store as they should be if we follow Android Guidelines. I’m really waiting for all system apps under Aarch64 and available on the Play Store with uninstalling possibility.
I said earlier, no biases. I started to get used to ColorOS, it was hard at first, but now it’s becoming way better.
It gives the impression that OPPO has integrated Android 12 functionalities made by Google, added theirs on top to expand them, and managed to balance it somehow.
Let’s start with the launcher. It’s fast, allows many options, got the discover/at glance functionality, and you can add widgets (works well with OPPO widgets, less with 3rd party apps/Google widgets), change the layout of the home screens, change the shape or even colors of the icons, notification shade icons. So, you will say Material You. It seems an OPPO solution, including a wallpaper color picker.
I still think the Notification shades can be ameliorated, and they are a struggle for me. Too many operations to have a global view and enter the app. I have many email accounts and receive many emails. You can have all the notifications grouped for each inbox; that’s great. You can unfold them and see each notification for each mail. Great. But when it’s folded, clicking on the shade, you should get you in the inbox with all read and unread mail. Here, you need to unfold, select an email, go into the email in the app, go back, and then be in your inbox.
And the system is still responsive, the battery is good, and no drain due to these additions; you customized the Reno 8 Pro to get a closer look at a Pixel/Stock OS. Some options or functionality will pop, giving you more of this feel… or the opposite.
I choose the US region on the phone, meaning lots of functionalities are deactivated to comply with local regulations… No Omoji, Themes, or way to customize the OS. Usually, when these options are free (like themes), the product is you (and your data). It can be a nice touch; for me, it’s just a gimmick, like a quick ball, smart bar. I tried them. I understand the addiction, but it’s not for me. At least the goal of Android, personalize it for your own usage. And it was the same for O Relax. It allows you to relax with a mix of music and video for the time you have decided. Zen attitude. Yep, great for those who need it, nope for me.
For the quick ball, is there an example that van is handy if you need, on the fly, translation, for instance:
Quick Ball Translation toolsYou can also easily use the splitting screen functionality
Dual windows/Split windows function
For Privacy, OPPO stated, “User privacy is about transparency. OPPO has been improving data compliance through storage and process. With servers deployed in multiple locations worldwide, OPPO guarantees that user data stays in the nearby servers, saved in a non-plain text transmitted using a proprietary protocol.”
ColorOS 12.1 comes with Private System, Private Safe, App Lock, and more security features with Android 12 Privacy Dashboards. However, on the phone, their privacy notice is outdated from November 2020. It seems the servers are in Germany for EU users, so OPPO complies with GPDR.
Okay, user data are safe and encrypted. ColorOS even integrates the new A12 guidelines as permissions of apps to use the camera, microphone, localization (approximate or precise), the data used, and the green dot to indicate whether an app uses a microphone or camera. Android 13 should bring more features concerning user privacy.
Anti-peeping feature is also included, and the system will recognize if it’s the viewer looking at the screen, so the notification or content can be hidden if tuned this way.
So, with the integration of Android 12 Features, OPPO custom-made additions, a new 3D engine for rendering, the wallpaper-based theming stuff, the smart sidebar, the nearby share integration, the quick return bubble, and all the animations On, what about the battery?
Surprisingly… Good. OPPO reaches, updates after updates, a great maturity for ColorOS 12 (12.1). It’s even a shame they move to ColorOS 13 so quickly. Fingers crossed it will keep the same stability I have now.
So far, with 3 Gmail accounts + 2 Exchange ones + photography + not a great network as fewer frequencies available here in the US with an EU variant + YouTube + some casual games here and there… You are good to go for the day. As usual, I turned my smartphone by restricting apps I don’t use, and I need to refresh when I go inside them (and believe me, it makes a massive difference as ColorOs allows Foreground Activity, Background Activity, and Auto Launch options to enable or disable).
And if there is an issue, you can activate the Super power-saving mode making your smartphone a feature phone. You can add three apps on top of the clock, dialer, and messaging apps. It will help you be reachable until you find a way to recharge your phone.
Like many OEMs, OPPO integrates the virtual RAM gimmick, adding virtual memory using your storage as paginated space for the less used apps still in memory and the multitasking mode. So, you will have from 2Gb to 7Gb more than the 8Gb or 12Gb RAM available in this variant. With UFS 3.1, the less used in-memory apps, no slowdown with that… I received the 12Gb, I decided to disable this feature.
Floating windows are also available with the OPPO Reno 8 Pro, here are some screenshots
It’s fully functional; the animations are great, nothing to add. Some OEMs have an issue implementing on top of their framework, but this is not the case here. If you’re a fan of it, you will enjoy it with the Reno8 series.
Connectivty
5G DSDS, BT 5.3 LE, aptX audio, wireless cast, close to perfect.
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ColorOS also integrates all you need for casting your screen. From Miracast to Chromecast, all wirelessly. So far, I wasn’t able to cast via the USB-C VS the X5 Series; maybe they cut corners here to keep the price low.
To share your screen on your computer, you will need to download an app, PC Connect client for Mac or Windows, allowing the connection with your phone… And that’s it. You will have a floating window on your desktop mirroring your OPPO screen. Fast and easy. Sharing clipboard functionality is also available.
https://connect.oppo.com/en-US
Wifi Situation:
The Wi-Fi 6 is 2.4Gbps compatible in the Connectivity part. However, with my device, I couldn’t connect over 1.2Gbps, while my X5 or P6Pro or even SSI smartphones were able to achieve it. I’m still wondering if we got here only 80Mhz x1 or 2x 40Mhz Antennas. I’m still waiting for an answer from OPPO in this matter.
With OPPO Reno 8 ProSame spot with a Pixel 6 Pro
For LTE, LTE-A, LTE NR, SA, NSA, 5G, or whatever, sorry, EU variant, and I am in the US, so it won’t be representative.
For USB type c onboard, a lot of websites advertise a USB-C 2.0. Well, I’m not so sure, or it was fast. I transferred more than 8Gb in less than 5mn, and it’s more than 10-15mn with a USB 2.0 port. So maybe not 3.1 or 3.2, but 3.0 is a possibility here.
For the Bluetooth connection, it is 5.3 LE. I’m a big fan of Qualcomm Snapdragon Sound. Even if the device is not compatible with lossless codec for the last Snapdragon Sound as it is for Snapdragon SoC and Fastconnect like the 8+ Gen 1, it is also compatible with aptX codec as LDAC (Sony). And it’s a big welcoming surprise. So Well done, OPPO, on that. It’s worth the extra money.
And also, there are no 3.5mm jack nor USB-C to Jack adapter in the box, so having a flawless BT Audio experience was needed, even for a mid-range device (Premium Mid-range in this case)
4. Camera and Photography
Great for every day situations, with an emphasis for portrait and night videos
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First, I want to remind all the readers that the Reno Series is a mid-range device. Not here to cannibalize the Find series or other flagship from the brand.
Meaning, if it was a Flagship worth $1000 or more, I would be pissed. Even if I still don’t understand some choices here.
Let’s take it off directly, No OIS, No Raw file option, no 4K/60fps, no long exposure or vlog options.
OIS is hardware; however, EIS is doing the job, especially with video modes. But the rest is only software. Worst, with all the NPU and Mediatek ISP, integrating them into the Reno 8 Pro should even be a problem. I’m still wondering why they didn’t, if there is any hardware limitation here or even the marketing reason, product managers, or whatever. Literally, it’s frustrating as it could blow away the competition if these basic features were integrated. Again, so far, for me, except for OIS (optical stab), it’s only software limitations.
I had one issue with the Gallery app, the HEIC to JPG tool while exporting to social networks, and the HEIF File format. It seems some apps, some websites, or even sharing them may result in no way to view the result with a different device. If you are sharing your work or just storing it, you should choose what suits you the best. The last update from Google Photos fixed a lot of glitches related to it, but so far the OPPO Gallery is still behind.
For the selfie part, OPPO introduced a new 32MP RGGW (W for white) custom sensor, the Sony IMX709. The aperture is f/2.4. It would have been better with an f/2.0, but again, we got one dedicated to capturing more light with its white layer. Remember, this selfie camera was the rear main Reno 7 sensor, with its cat-eye lens (not the case here). The OPPO F21 Pro is also equipped with it.
Now for the results, they are pretty good, nevertheless. As usual better to see vs. explain, so here are some examples:
Some Colors shots:
Food here and there:
Flowers:
Low Light Portraits shots (by playing with editing tools and filters available on the gallery and camera apps):
The post-treatment can be super aggressive in portrait mode, I advise you to tune it before and do some tests, or deactivate it. Again depending on the subject, the feminine population was more tend to push it to the limit and was happy about that. Flavors and colors…
Night shots:
A big part here is the use of the NPU, MariSilicon, for the 4K HDR vs. no HDR recording videos (in H265, meaning they might not be played in your browser, so here is a shared drive in Google Photos: ):
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9ErYqbTped3Thjxa8
No HDRHDR
So here, more saturated colors, blacks are deeper, and contrast is stronger than with no HDR enabled.
Here is an example of a street video with a lot of lights, smoke, and people moving around:
Let’s go a last one:
As you can see, I hit it hard in a low light environment, not an easy task, with no gimbal too, and obviously no OIS.
The result is still here, exploitable and way enough for your social media or even for editing.
You also got slow motion and timelapse video options too, so here 2 “How-To” videos and timelapse examples (post-encoded in 720P for space-saving):
Panorama Trick
Timelapse, 3 hours in 2mn
Slo-Mo
Here are some random videos in daylight:
Now, from a tech point: I was surprised to see the NPU added to X5 Series with the last Qualcomm and Snapdragon SoC. I’m still thinking the Triple ISPs are in fine better. Now we got the same with this Reno 8 Pro. Again, on my side, Mediatek ISP is better too than a 3rd party solution (especially since we don’t have 4K/60fps or even 8K available, or triple video streams at the same time recording capability, or 4K HDR selfie videos… etc etc). So Why?
The only things I’m thinking about right now are:
You don’t pay your supplier for their tools and licensing
You can have a dedicated team tuning and pushing updates whatever the SoC on the devices
You can push the same updates to every device with this NPU less time and resource consuming
Having the same NPU here and there allows them to train it more quickly and feed him with data and case scenarios.
Maybe some stuff I forget and am not aware of.
Is it right or not, it’s the trend now from Xiaomi, OPPO, VIVO etc. Do I like it? Nope. And I’m pretty sure we won’t see the benefits, as users, until mid-next year if it’s still alive.
5. The Battery and Charger:
Charging is blazing fast, really fast. And the battery stands long.
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First, for the USA, with 110V, it’s 66W fast charging (SUPERVOOC), others 80W. It reminds me of the OnePlus 10 Pro situation, except it was 65W (coughing…). If you got a 150/160W SUPERVOOC charger from Realme, OnePlus, it would be 80W. But whatever, it’s only a 3mn difference for a full charge between 65/66W and full 80W.
It’s just surprising OPPO decided to port X5 fast charging capability to a mid-range like the Reno, while a lot of 2022 flagships are still using 18/27/33/50/55/65W charging instead of 80/120/150W available on the market.
Yep, that’s right; the Reno8 Pro doesn’t need to be jealous of the top tiers of flagships available in the market concerning this point.
Indeed, from 17% to 100% in 33 minutes. Take a shower, grab a coffee, listen to a podcast, and you’re fueled up for more a day of battery. And yes, with many push email accounts, listening to music with TWS, smartwatch connected, GPS navigation, some gaming sessions in the commute (or streaming), social media, and posting photography shots… Your smartphone will handle it. Worst, you are a heavy player, just 5mn of charging here and there, and that’s it.
Now, two things bother me with the power outlet/charger. No USB-C port, it’s an old USB type A. I can understand the idea is to have the cable able to connect to a computer port or even Android Auto, where usually it’s still “type A.” Plus, no Type A to USB-C adapter to make the USB cable type C to type C. But again, it’s a mid-range and not a Flagship device.
The second is the size of the outlet. It’s huge for an 80W. Now we got GaN technology, and I’ve seen 150W chargers smaller than this one.
As you can see, OPPO should release a GaN 80W, the same size as the Xiaomi 65W in the photos. It would be a killer product.
6. Final thoughts:
Do you want the best for BTS, in its category? No Brainer, the OPPO Reno8 Pro is for you.
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Yes, if you’re searching for the best premium mid-range device with an incredible feeling in your hands, the OPPO Reno8 Pro 5G is for you. If you don’t have the money to pay for a $/€1000 flagship device, the same, the device is for you.
Now, you will think twice if you can put your hands on a new H2 2021 (or even an H1 2022 flagship for a lower price than the OPPO Reno8 Pro).
You will have to consider what is your usage of the device for every day: more into photography, selfie, night videos with HDR, gaming, social media, and maybe some stuff I’m forgetting.
And it will be a hard decision as the OPPO Reno8 Pro can easily be mistaken for a flagship with some software addition. The line is growing thinner than usual between next year’s mid-range device and the previous flagship. Usually, it was a one-year and a half gap; now, we’re even close to 6 months. And worst, the new OnePlus 10T only got the latest Snapdragon SoC + the charging time for him (around 10mn faster for a full 0 to 100 charge) VS. the OPPO Reno8 Pro 5G, and they are available at the same time on the market. However, the OPPO Reno8 Pro 5G surpasses the OP10T for all photos and videos matter.
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Happy to see here, there's a threat about the Oppo Reno 8 pro. I'm using this wonderfull phone now since one week, as replacement for an Galaxy S22 ultra.
The Reno 8 pro runs as we can aspect from an flexible phone. Mine is the 8 gb version, but everything runs much smoother than on that S22 ultra with 12 gb.
In my contacts I have made more groups of persons. Now I want to give every group its own ringtone. Probely, I'm not looking on the right place but I can't change this for the whole group at ones.
Can someone help me, where to find this setting?
This is what I found online, but its not working for the Reno 8 pro:
1. Open [Phone] > [Contacts] > [My Groups].
2. Tap the group you wish to set the new ringtone for.
3. Tap [Ringtone
] at the bottom and select the desired ringtone for the group.
Is the coloros China or globel edition? Can you test gps using gps test app to see if it support beidou gps?