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I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
Araltd said:
I'm assuming a lot of you are like me, and have had the Note 4 close to 2 years now- close to paid for... wondering if anyone is considering getting a Note 7 or something else and why?
I was all excited about upgrading to a Note 7 but the limited research I've done based on the S7 is the bootloader will probably be locked meaning no root, no roms, etc... so now I'm not sure if I just stick it out a while long with my Note 4 or look elsewhere for another device? (nexus ###?)
Comments appreciated.
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It's a pain in the butt shopping for where to go from the Note 4. Where, oh where, is it's successor? I so hate the idea of a non-replaceable battery. Maybe, if it wouldn't be too grueling to take my next "sealed" phone apart to replace the dang thing. The next big screen Nexus? Arrrgggghhhhhh!
Well if I didn't just post a lengthy reply to a similar question in the Intl. forum! (In fact I did; this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/moving-to-flagship-t3404126 my ramblings are the first post on page 4 ) Bullet points:
* I think the Note 4 is (still, 2 years in) a great device and I plan on keeping mine after making my last few payments. It will be a super fancy universal IR remote... ...among other things Definitely no shortage of ways to repurpose an old/extra Android device.
* I really hope the upcoming Nexus has expandable storage... I could see that happening this year with Google's "adoptable storage" (and other OEM's failing to... adopt it ) It's equally possible that I just really want that to happen. Either way, if it does, the larger screen version will be my next phone.
* The Note 7 looks beastly and if it doesn't have a locked bootloader I might go for it. The thing is, I'd really like to avoid buying anything from TMO aside from service... ya know, "vote with my wallet" against their abysmally late updates. I have a "new" Tab S2 TMO variant that's now the only model of that tablet that hasn't been updated to MM yet, making it as well as my N4 dead last (including other carriers) to receive the 10 month old OS. No way I can throw down up front for a $$$ N7 though, and I did do a couple of exchanges with the TMO insurance that were super easy, so bootloader unlocked = maybe, locked = not. a. chance. (not that I'd ever pay money for a "computer" that locks me out from self-administration, but particularly since I trust TMO 0% wrt updates and may need to handle that myself.)
* Option 3 = ??? Hoping to find the following: strong/friendly development community, expandable storage, >= 5.5" quality display, standard headphone port (IMO it's ridiculous that dropping this is becoming "a thing" w/o a superior replacement), and "good" battery life. Hopefully not asking too much in 2016, sure was in 2015.
Currently leaning towards a Nexus I suppose... not really in any rush to move on from the N4. Oh and definitely agree @steven.m - sealed battery = planned obsolescence but (clearly) any phone without a completely impractical metal unibody is simply not "PREMIUM" enough for... something something... of today! Note that a removable battery isn't even on my "wish list"... I was trying to make it realistic
I'll keep this N4 until it's dead. Then I'll most likely look at Nexus, HTC or Moto devices. About the only thing I'll miss is the WiFi calling.
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Xiaomi Mi Max for me
Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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Xiaomi Mi Max 6.5 inches of Android goodness, plus removable battery and sd card support. Samsung has iphoned their way out of my hands. If I wanted a iphone I would have bought a iphone, but such is life. Wife has s7 edge and she keeps telling me it is the worst phone she has ever owned. With that in house review why would I buy a Note 7?
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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I'll have to look that model up- I don't know Xiaomi, but maybe I will get to know them. :highfive:
Edit: Hmmm.... love the size of the screen, but not QHD.... and battery not removable. Close, but I dunno.
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Dang just did another spec search and you are right http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_max-8057.php says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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says non-removable battery. What is up with that, cheaper to produce?
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Yes, and the capacity can be battery capacity can be maximised this way since they don't have to make provisions for the battery to be removed.
I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
I'm thinking about the zenfone 3 ultra 6.8inch monster lol
The note 7 isn't on my radar, I too am think of going with a nexus if it has a memory card slot but all of this won't be for a while as I just traded in my s7 ( which was part of bogo ) and got my note 4 back that I jumped about 6 months ago. I missed it so much I will keep it for ever, even after its paid off. I also have the s7 edge which just became rootable so I might play with it for a while but it's my work phone and I have until November before I can jump again but it won't be a Sammy phone. I don't really like the s7 edge as those edges are a real nightmare unless you have a case on it you will have accidental touches that will drive you crazy. I'll hold on to my note 4 until next year and then start looking.
I didn't realize the s7 had been rooted
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I think I'm done with Samsung for now. Waiting for the Note 4 MM update this long and the fact that they basically abandoned the Galaxy Tab Pro six months after they released it have really turned me off.
I think I'll be trying one of the 'upstart' manufacturers. I've been considering the Huawei Mate line for a while now, but their software has always been a drawback (but at least they update it). Now I've been reading that they are making software and their EMUI skin a priority as they attempt to break into the US/NA market. I look forward to seeing what they've got. Also, T-Mobile specific versions of any phone seem to not get nearly as much development, which is understandable. But I think I'll get an unlocked international phone next time.
I will be keeping my Note 4 (just like I still have my Note 3) for use with the virtual reality headset that I will be getting. It still has enough processing power and a very good screen resolution for that type of activity.
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
This is a good question I guess it depends on if note 7 comes with 820 or something better I won't buy a 820 phone there are cheaper options with same processor. Im thinking Nexus. But if note 7 has 4000mah battery it may get my money. My last 2 Samsung phones have had bad gps
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I have the Honor 5x which is from Huawei also., bought it a few months to test, for $200 premium looking, metal casing, 2 sim slots and external sd... but no removable battery and we are supposed to get MM any day now..
but yes I think I want a google phone, but it has to have external sd, maybe I can deal with non removable battery, but who knows. and they better start lowering prices of phones, they would sell more and sell every year selling at about $500.. that's just me thinking out load.. :silly:
because I have my father in law had the S2 very outdated and giving him problems.., so off went my note 3 which was my sons, so he plays with it,
I started with HTC, had almost every single phone till the M7, then moved to Samsung from S2, S3, Note 2, 3, 4.. and on the Notes had 2 of each, for me and my wife.. also with the M7.. I have paid to much on phones and then they don't take care of the updates which the dev do it better than Samsung is very disappointing since manufacturing them is really under $200 coming from the take downs of the devices.. way to much profit, then they expect us, to buy new phones every year...
try to return a new phone u buy in T-Mobile, they offer u half of less after 3 or 4 months then they sell it back as certified phones for double than what they paid getting it back from you... really sucks..
remember a phone is for making phone calls......
I have a pc, laptop,
2 tablets Samsung as well, and they stop with the updates after a year. u get lucky maybe give it a year 2 or 3 months...
super surprised about this MM update on our phones giving that we are almost on our 2 year.. very surprised, guess they are trying to say we will support them longer... remember Note 4 came with KitKat, then Lollipop, and now MM... wow....
darn even apple updates the phones till the older phones can't except the updates to slowing it down or not enough space left..
opps rambling, let me stop... haha
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I am getting to the point where I can no longer justify spending $650-700 on a phone. You're right, there are so many decent options now for half the price.
I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
Jeez the note 7 is going to be almost 1000.
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HTC makes the best Nexus phones imo.
I might get the Moto G4 Plus
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I'm waiting to see what the Nexus phone phones are like this year. I'm hoping they'll have a nice premium phone this year. The 6P was a nice start. HTC may kick it up another notch. Rumors are that Google wants a phone that will directly compete with the iPhone. Well see if that happens. I've had only Samsung smartphones (Galaxy S, Note 2, note 4, galaxy light). It's time for something different
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Agreed... but then again, do I have enough time to monkey around with ROMs again? Realistically - no. If I get an Android device again, I'm just going to have to get the latest Nexus. I'm tired of TW and trying to hack things to make them behave like I want them to...( I'm looking at you NFC icon ).
hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works. I can't see the Note 8 being different from the S9 in that regard.
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works.
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
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I don't know about the s9, I was speaking about the note 8.
The most important reason to buy a note series device should be the s pen, in your case, I believe that the spen is not the main reason, so, I would sugest to you to get another device
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I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
Buy an iphone
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
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No problem, I wish I had known about the Bluetooth issue before getting my 2XL. I had heard there were some issues but was not expecting it to be quite so extensive. Annoyingly, I may be stuck with the phone as I am a few days outside the 15-day return window, which will leave me just hoping for a fix.
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Buy an iphone
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
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Buy an iphone
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You sellin?
Hey guys is the Nexus 6 is still a good phone to have in 2020? Reason asking is because in getting to choose between either an Samsung Galaxy A10 or the Nexus 6.... Wat are ur advice people
I've since moved on to a Galaxy S10 5g, but the Nexus 6 is still the best phone I've ever owned. I miss how wide the damn thing is. Unlocked bootloader... was a great phone. I've even considered going back to it. I'd suggest getting the N6, but I've never used the A10
My personal opinions here...
If the Nexus 6 [emoji336] and the Samsung A10 [emoji336] were my two [emoji3577] choices, I would personally go with Samsung A10.
The Nexus 6 was an Awesome Android phone when it came out in 2014. The model, however, is now almost 6 years old.
Conversely the Samsung A10 was released in 2019 and is a Much newer device. It will work better with modern apps and should receive one or two of the future Android Version Updates.
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As much as I still love my Nexus 6. I'd say no. It's a great secondary device but not main.
Yeah N6 was a top phone back in the day. OP6 user now but still have my trusty N6, just need a new battery for it now. Any recommendations?
i had to jump ship due to the battery issues. i went the pixel 4 xl route google store version from swappa and got a good deal. if i wasnt having battery issues i would probably still have my shamu as my primary device.
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Yeah N6 was a top phone back in the day. OP6 user now but still have my trusty N6, just need a new battery for it now. Any recommendations?
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If I lived in the UK I'd probably try this one. We seem to have more choices here in the US.
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If I lived in the UK I'd probably try this one. We seem to have more choices here in the US.
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I agree, when searching, the UK was limited. I did come across the one you mentioned, I guess I'll order it as someone local with expertise will fit it for me. My daughter will be happy as the Shamu will be as good as new again.
My dad still uses one, it had the battery changed though last year. I am thinking of giving him my S8+ because i have only 2 months left on my contract, and I was thinking on getting the P30 Pro and keeping the N6 as a backup phone, maybe having Lineage OS 16 installed on it. The N6 was the phone I loved most over the years and had 4 or 5 of them. Very good phone if you change the battery !
Hey guys, just cracked the hell out of my note 20 screen and looking to switch phones to either the 9 pro or the Google pixel I know this might be a biased forum to post one xD but I despise Samsung because they make it so hard to root and the things you do with it are extremely limited just wondering how the 4 XL (or whatever the newest version) is if it's easy to root, a good phone etc etc how close it is to the newer one coming out and if I should wait or not I appreciate any input ^_^
Veid71, you certainly asked a loaded question in this forum. Here is what I tell you as a person that is currently using the Pixel 4 XL as my DD AND has used all of the previous Notes plus the S21, 20, ect. Rooting is very easy with this phone so take that off the table. As far as the 4 XL vs. the current 5 no question in my mind the 4 XL is a superior phone is many aspects. I have used the 5 for a day or so and there is no comparison for me. The 4 feels premium and 5 doesn't. I have been using my 4 XL as my DD for about 18 months now with the exception of a few days here and there where I use my iPhone 12 max pro or my Surface Duo. I have not used the same phone for longer than 8 months in the last 6 plus years. As far as the next Pixel is concerned I will ABSOLUTELY get the pro version or whatever they'll call it as I love a bigger phone. Get the 4 XL you won't be disappointed.
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Hey guys, just cracked the hell out of my note 20 screen and looking to switch phones to either the 9 pro or the Google pixel I know this might be a biased forum to post one xD but I despise Samsung because they make it so hard to root and the things you do with it are extremely limited just wondering how the 4 XL (or whatever the newest version) is if it's easy to root, a good phone etc etc how close it is to the newer one coming out and if I should wait or not I appreciate any input ^_^
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$580 new for an unlocked 64GB at Amazon. They have 128GB as well. Far better phone than ANY 4a or 5 variants. Won't be long and they will be hard to find. You may want to watch Prime day very closely and prices may go down.
I agree with everything @Birdsfan said. The Pixel 4XL is by far the best phone I've owned. You can pick up a used one for $200 to $300 at Swappa. With that said though I am eagerly waiting for the Pixel 6 Pro due out in October. If any of the leaks are accurate it's going to be a hell of an upgrade.
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I agree with everything @Birdsfan said. The Pixel 4XL is by far the best phone I've owned. You can pick up a used one for $200 to $300 at Swappa. With that said though I am eagerly waiting for the Pixel 6 Pro due out in October. If any of the leaks are accurate it's going to be a hell of an upgrade.
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Me too. I've never anticipated a release this far in advance before but I'm 99% all-in on the Pixel 6 Pro when it comes out
I've been using my 2XL for a long time, still runs fine. I saw there's a good deal on ebay right now for a refurb Pixel 5. Is it worth upgrading ? I'm guessing camera will be similar, size is a bit smaller.
Also I guess I should root and custom rom my 2XL this being XDA but I stopped doing that with Pixels so I'm still on 11. I also want to keep unlimited photos backup so not considering a 5a/6.
I'm sure there must be others who did this upgrade, any thoughts?
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I've been using my 2XL for a long time, still runs fine. I saw there's a good deal on ebay right now for a refurb Pixel 5. Is it worth upgrading ? I'm guessing camera will be similar, size is a bit smaller.
Also I guess I should root and custom rom my 2XL this being XDA but I stopped doing that with Pixels so I'm still on 11. I also want to keep unlimited photos backup so not considering a 5a/6.
I'm sure there must be others who did this upgrade, any thoughts?
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I am no expert in android phone recommendations, but do note that the Pixel 5 will only recieve updates up to Android 14 and may stop updates in October 2023.
Learn when you'll get software updates on Google Pixel phones - Pixel Phone Help
Below are software update guarantees for Pixel phones. If you have another Android device, contact your manufacturer or carrier for update info. If you have a Nexus device,
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As you can live with Android 11 on your 2XL though, this may not have too much of an impact.
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I've been using my 2XL for a long time, still runs fine. I saw there's a good deal on ebay right now for a refurb Pixel 5. Is it worth upgrading ? I'm guessing camera will be similar, size is a bit smaller.
Also I guess I should root and custom rom my 2XL this being XDA but I stopped doing that with Pixels so I'm still on 11. I also want to keep unlimited photos backup so not considering a 5a/6.
I'm sure there must be others who did this upgrade, any thoughts?
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"Is it worth upgrading?" It depends on your needs:
- Good camera:
Google Pixel 2 XL Specs
Google Pixel 5 Specs
- Google unlimited photos:
AFAIK the Google Pixel 5, still, has Google unlimited photos:
Important: If you have a Pixel 5 or earlier, you receive unlimited storage for photos and videos backed up from your device at no charge.
Learn more about your storage options.
"Also I guess I should root and custom rom my 2XL."
Does your Pixel 2 XL has a unlockable bootloader?
I would recommend rooting and installing Custom ROM for Security Updates.
Does the Pixel 5 you are purchasing from eBay have also an unlockable bootloader?
If yes and you want to root your refurbished Google Pixel 5 check out this Guide
Homeboy76 said:
"Is it worth upgrading?" It depends on your needs:
- Good camera:
Google Pixel 2 XL Specs
Google Pixel 5 Specs
- Google unlimited photos:
AFAIK the Google Pixel 5, still, has Google unlimited photos:
Important: If you have a Pixel 5 or earlier, you receive unlimited storage for photos and videos backed up from your device at no charge.
Learn more about your storage options.
"Also I guess I should root and custom rom my 2XL."
Does your Pixel 2 XL has a unlockable bootloader?
I would recommend rooting and installing Custom ROM for Security Updates.
Does the Pixel 5 you are purchasing from eBay have also an unlockable bootloader?
If yes and you want to root your refurbished Google Pixel 5 check out this Guide
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I'd not want to root P5 now not till its end of life.
But I may do it for P2, I use Google Pay etc so haven't till now, I've had issues with custom roms not passing SafetyNet before and got tired of the flashing.
My qn is is the upgrade worth it or will I not notice much difference?
ECrispy said:
My qn is is the upgrade worth it or will I not notice much difference?
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Well, there's this to consider...
Older Pixels are losing 5G Standalone connectivity after the March update
Owners of older Pixel phones are losing out on 5G (or one form of it, at least)
www.androidpolice.com
manjaroid said:
Well, there's this to consider...
Older Pixels are losing 5G Standalone connectivity after the March update
Owners of older Pixel phones are losing out on 5G (or one form of it, at least)
www.androidpolice.com
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I did see that, don't know what to make of it. Seems like a pretty big deal but I don't see it being discussed anywhere. Isn't 5G a huge selling point and shouldn't it affect a lot more phones not just the Pixels?
ECrispy said:
I did see that, don't know what to make of it. Seems like a pretty big deal but I don't see it being discussed anywhere. Isn't 5G a huge selling point and shouldn't it affect a lot more phones not just the Pixels?
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I don't know what to make of it either. Chalk it up to more Google cynicism I guess. I don't think it's enough reason to pass on Pixel 5, especially if you don't care about 5G standalone (I don't) and 4G does its job. Apparently newer stock Android builds disable 5G SA and rolling back before March gets it back. I don't really know for sure, only what I've read so far.