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Is it worth getting a pixel 2 for the camera or is the note 8 with camera mods as good?
I ask this because I am trying to figure out which phone to get, if I am going to spend a small fortune, I don't want to regret it. For me I would consider the note 8, pixel 2 xl, the lg v30 (if the v30 is available in my region), sony xz premium. The iphone x I'd consider, but I'm doubtful unless reviews suggest there is something amazing.
The most important features for me are screen and camera. I do like the note 8 extras, but I could keep my note 5 which I use for vr occasionally, and with my gear 360.
Has anyone installed the exynos zero camera mod and hdr+ google camera port? How well do they work? Are there any video comparisons with these modifications? Also does the Samsung camera sensor have 10 bit colour?
I like taking sunset photographs and low light, dynamic range is probably more important to me than pixel peeping or other characteristics in most photos I take. For my use the note 5 camera with exposure lowered and less noise is preferred when I don't have my Sony dslr.
I'm thinking given the video and camera mods and ports to buy the note 8 exynos if possible ( best hardware) when it's on offer in the future and then just use the hdr+ app and zero camera mod. Any thoughts on this from note 8 owners?
Also is the note 8 worth the price now that you have bought it? Are there any problems?
I can tell you this: when somebody buys a galaxy note, the main atractive should be the s pen and screen size, if these things are not important to you, then get a pixel or v 30 or any good camera phone, simple
Go for The Xperia XZ Premium
I run 2 phones - Pixel XL and the Note 8 - I buy th note 8 because ive always had the note line until the 5 wasnt sold in UK (I imported but lack of SD at time made me sell) and the Note 7 (No reason needed to be given )
The note 8 by far is the best phone i have used from SAMSUNG if you only take into account their products. Pixel XL is for the puriest. I am debating getting the XL2 but wont do so until renewal in Feb next year.
Smartphone cameras these days have reached a point on Flagships where no matter which you go for - You will be impressed.
Id get the Note 8 solely for the extras it offers. Yes its not pure android but custom roms are coming out to help remove bloatware.
Ive had MANY phones in my time and these are the pinnacle of all my experience - For a better feel - Id get the Note 8 - ~JerryRigEverything tore the Pixel 2 apart and it wasnt pretty...
Xz premium paired with 4k hdr TV and vr glasses.
Go XZP, you wont regret it!
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Xz premium paired with 4k hdr TV and vr glasses.
Go XZP, you wont regret it!
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What if he wants a phone that doesn't look like 2012?
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Is it worth getting a pixel 2 for the camera or is the note 8 with camera mods as good?
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I think @winol said it best. Imo the note 8 is the best phone for 2017 period. The reason is simple. It will beat every other phone at most things not all. The iPhone 8 has a better processor, the Pixel has a better camera etc... But in the end the s-pen puts it in a league of its own. Even if you don't always use it. It'll save your a** in a pinch. So if your only criteria is a camera. Go for the Pixel XL.
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Is it worth getting a pixel 2 for the camera or is the note 8 with camera mods as good?
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I think @winol said it best. Imo the note 8 is the best phone for 2017 period. The reason is simple. It will beat every other phone at most things not all. The iPhone 8 has a better processor, the Pixel has a better camera etc... But in the end the s-pen puts it in a league of its own. Even if you don't always use it. It'll save your a** in a pinch. So if your only criteria is a camera. Go for the Pixel XL.
I have read mixed reviews about the camera in the Pixel....Sorry, I cant even say that name without thinking the Pixel should be sold at Toys-R-Us? No offence I just cannot stand the appearance of the Pixel range as they look like toys. That is a totally subject view so ignore it.
Cameras. Not my forte so cant really add much to the debate. I understand the Note 8 has a decent camera?
As for a mobile phone the Note series is built around the S-pen. I would never even consider a Note if I had no use for that lovely S-pen experience. Its a mouse that makes ones mobile into a pocket PC. NO other mobile yet does that.
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Pixel 2 is overpriced imo....it's basically an iPhone running Android imo
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Go for The Xperia XZ Premium
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Xz premium paired with 4k hdr TV and vr glasses.
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He said he wants a good camera. The camera on the XZ Premium is a steaming pile of CRAP. Complete garbage. Returned that phone within days of getting it because the camera was so bad.
Depends on what you do with your camera. I just want to record a moment with decent color, in focus, and so on without trying. I'm at no time looking to take a picture that will be art although like most people I have from time to time taken some truly great pictures because even a monkey banging on a keyboard will eventually get some Shakespeare. So I think the first thing that comes up is what do you want out of your camera?
As to the XL having a better camera I'm not quite sure that is true. When I look at the comparisons myself and do it blind I will often pick pictures from either camera as being better. The same holds true with the cool-aid device as well, I will pick pictures from both phones as being better when compared side to side. IMO cell phone cameras have just flat become great on the higher end and are better at taking pictures than most of us.
One last thing, Samsung has had one strength in their cameras for the last couple years that in a review a while back was called the fast moving child factor. This is where you pull the phone and immediately snap a pick of a fast moving object like your kids hoping to catch a moment that will soon be gone forever. You're not going to frame that photo, manipulate the objects in it, adjust your setting, you pull your phone and push the button and pray you got it. Samsung gets that one right. The 8 is better than the Pixel by a good margin, cant compare to the Pixel 2 because I don't have one. I did see a review that called out the iphone as being better at that sort of shot than the XL and in turn I know the Note 8 to be as good or better than the iphone in this area. Something to think about.
To go back to the beginning I think for most people the cameras on flagships are becoming a non factor. They're damn good and better at taking photos than their users. If this applies to you then forget about the camera and look at the other features. If the camera is paramount then you may want to widen your scope and consider the Sony.
Nowadays all smarthlones are using sony imx sensor, the diffrence is in software artifacts.
Why XZ Premium? Imx 400!
Iphone8 imx 398, s8 imx333 4k, pixel 2 imx 3xx
Imx400 is a sleeping monster! ?
P. S. XZP when you come home tired and wanna play some 4k hdr 60fps on your brand New 4k hdr smartTV ????
If photography is very important why not do the obvious thing and buy a dedicated prosumer camera?
Music is important to me so I am buying an external DAC-Amp that will enhance the sound from any mobile beyond imagination. Such DAC-Amp's when connected to the USB negate the internal DAC Amp of the mobile allowing a dedicated external device to produce the sound and the mobile is used as the source only.
If one is only mildly interested in music and cameras then any top notch present day flagship mobile should suffice. Its always going to be a question of compromise.
Most high end mobiles use Minolta cameras that are now owned by and called Sony. To that end I would imagine going to the font of the camera, ie Sony, one could not go wrong as they supply most of the trades cameras for mobiles at this level.
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I can tell you this: when somebody buys a galaxy note, the main atractive should be the s pen and screen size, if these things are not important to you, then get a pixel or v 30 or any good camera phone, simple
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I agree! I have a Note8 myself because I actually do use the pen features.
If a user wants to get a Galaxy Note device but not use the pen features, they should have instead got a plus-sized Galaxy S series (like the S8+), another Android phone, or even wait for the release of the next Galaxy S series.
What was saddening for me, was when I went to a friend's house last week to fix their PC, and found his wife uses a Note5 with the S Pen intentionally jammed inside the phone (like the top of the pen appeared to have been hammered in), to the point where it can never come out without taking apart the phone. This to me feels like when (insert metaphor here relating to my favourite TV show)
At least, from what I've seen, the Pixel 2 is a better phone for someone who doesn't need pen features on their phone, and would prefer taking photos, plus staying within Google's ecosystem.
Just sideload the pixel camera. It makes the note take much better photos.
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Just sideload the pixel camera. It makes the note take much better photos.
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Would you mind providing a link for this app?
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The Pixel 2 XL has been having multiple issues with the camera, I'd go with the Note 8. I've had friends that returned it for a new one only to have the same camera issues.
note 8 for me all the way for camera + big screen + spen i sold my s8+ to get note 8 for me it was well worth it i love it and wouldnt have anythin els
For what it's worth, both the Pixel and the iPhones are having quality and reliability issues that the Note 8 isn't.
I'm not a photographer, so I can't expound on the virtues of the Pixel over the Note 8, nor have I even held a Pixel of either generation in my hand. I can say that I am more impressed with the picture quality of my Note 8 than I was with the LG V20, and not just a little bit. I use my phone's camera to capture a moment. If I want to get artsy, I'll grab the Nikon.
A phone is a compromise. Some do better at one thing than another. The LG V series does music better than almost any other phone, for example. I have over 300GB of high resolution music. I don't even consider a phone that doesn't support an SD card.
To get a true reading on what the OP is asking will require true photographers that have experience with the various cameras to check in. There aren't many people that will fit that bill.
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Would you mind providing a link for this app?
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Start here.
Personally I went with the note 8, I had previously the s8 that j was happy with but put it down to try the pixel. While the pixel was great I didn't go with a pixel 2 because of hown Google customer support is. November 1st I was told 3-5 business days to get my replacement cause my pixel was having issues. It is now November 23rd and every 2 days I get told theres no updates wait another 48 hours because they cannot in their words allocate a replacement device for me. I was waiting to get the pixel 2 but after this experience I went and got a note 8 and I love it couldn't be happier best Sammy device I've used and best Android I've used.
I've used the s5, HTC one m8, nexus 5, s7 edge note edge, pixel and one plus 5
For what it's worth I own the note 8 and recently purchased the original pixel XL 128gb and I am absolutely in love with the pixel XL. That said the note 8 is an amazing device and the camera is great. However the pixel 2 XL is just better. I'll be getting the 2xl soon to go with my note 8.
It seems quite a few people in this 6T group also own the Pixel 3 or 3XL. Other than the lower price of the 6T and the better camera of the Pixel. Which one do you all think is the better phone all around and why?
The reason I ask is that BestBuy will be offering $200 off the Pixel 3/3 XL during Black Friday which would put the Pixel price in line (close enough) with the 6T. With that being said, which phone would you buy for around the same price?
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It seems quite a few people in this 6T group also own the Pixel 3 or 3XL. Other than the lower price of the 6T and the better camera of the Pixel. Which one do you all think is the better phone all around and why?
The reason I ask is that BestBuy will be offering $200 off the Pixel 3/3 XL during Black Friday which would put the Pixel price in line (close enough) with the 6T. With that being said, which phone would you buy for around the same price?
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I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.
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I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.
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What about battery life between the two, that is worrying me about the 3 or 3XL. The 6T seems to have respectable battery life, while the Pixel seems to struggle in that category.
Also, you stated performance on both of them is basically the same. That is another worry for me in regard to the Pixel, as it seems the 6T blows out the Pixel in raw numbers when the review sites do tests, does that translate to day-to-day usage?
Do you find the 4GB in the Pixel lags behind the 8GB in the 6T?
Are you using both phones on the same carrier? If so, how is the reception/signal strength between the two?
If you would pick the Pixel as you wrote, then why are you using your OnePlus as your daily?
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I own both and it's a tough toss up. Each one of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Right now the Pixel 3 XL has a horrible RAM management problem (hopefully Google will fix that with an update) and the OnePlus 6T has 8 gigs of RAM.
Agreed and don't think 4gb will be an issue for normal users. I do believe OP will always hold more in memory.
The camera on the Pixel 3 XL is just so much better than the OnePlus 6T, not that the OnePlus camera is bad. When I know I'm going to be taking a lot of pictures I'm taking my Pixel 3 XL with me.
Again agree it's a world of difference but having a ported camera from Pixel helps and for me solves the issue.
The notch on the Pixel 3 XL basically goes away with Nacho Notch while the notch on the OnePlus 6T is actually ok.
I don't hate the notch on the pixel unless I watch full screen YouTube or something. 6t is not intrusive ever for me. That said I prefer the notch there then having Nacho.
Performance on both of them is basically the same. The haptic feedback on the Pixel 3XL is one of the best on any smartphone.
Disagree slightly overall because of the memory issue the pixel feels and acts faster when switching apps etc. I had to trlurn off adaptive battery so that pixel runs smooth at all otherwise it would refresh screen all the time. Haptic feedback is really nice in pixel.
I guess if I could only buy one it would probably be the Pixel 3XL, and I'm saying that as I'm using my OnePlus as my daily.
I returned the pixel and kept OP.
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Battery on OP WAY better then xl too. Screen better on pixel...feel and build I prefer the pixel too. Not that there is anything wrong with OP just the pixel is nice. I hate not having wireless charging and proprietary charging but the charging is soooo fast. Day to day speed is or will be the same on both imo once Google fixes ram issue. Whatever frustrations I have with OP5t that made me go to pixel 2 xl are now gone on the 6t and the software changes op made are very nice that and their guesture makes it feel like true full screen phone just looks like next gen.
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What about battery life between the two, that is worrying me about the 3 or 3XL. The 6T seems to have respectable battery life, while the Pixel seems to struggle in that category.
Also, you stated performance on both of them is basically the same. That is another worry for me in regard to the Pixel, as it seems the 6T blows out the Pixel in raw numbers when the review sites do tests, does that translate to day-to-day usage?
Do you find the 4GB in the Pixel lags behind the 8GB in the 6T?
I have Verizon, which carrier do you have? If Verizon, how is the reception/signal strength between the two?
If you would pick the Pixel as you wrote, then why are you using your OnePlus as your daily?
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I get all day battery life on both phones, I would have to say the OnePlus is a little bit better on battery life but I've never had to look for a plug while using my Pixel.
The reason why review sites are showing that the OnePlus numbers are beating the Pixel is because Google underclocked the Snapdragon 845, a custom kernel will fix that. It really does not translate in day-to-day use. The Pixel is as smooth of a phone as you are going to find.
I personally don't think the 4 gigs of RAM are going to make that much of a difference once Google fixes the RAM management problem.
T-Mobile here.
I said if I could only buy one. I will switch between phones weekly because I get bored. I used my Pixel for about 2 weeks and now I'm using my OnePlus.
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Battery on OP WAY better then xl too. Screen better on pixel...feel and build I prefer the pixel too. Not that there is anything wrong with OP just the pixel is nice. I hate not having wireless charging and proprietary charging but the charging is soooo fast. Day to day speed is or will be the same on both imo once Google fixes ram issue.
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I get all day battery life on both phones, I would have to say the OnePlus is a little bit better on battery life but I've never had to look for a plug while using my Pixel.
The reason why review sites are showing that the OnePlus numbers are beating the Pixel is because Google underclocked the Snapdragon 845, a custom kernel will fix that. It really does not translate in day-to-day use. The Pixel is as smooth of a phone as you are going to find.
I personally don't think the 4 gigs of RAM are going to make that much of a difference once Google fixes the RAM management problem.
T-Mobile here.
I said if I could only buy one. I will switch between phones weekly because I get bored. I used my Pixel for about 2 weeks and now I'm using my OnePlus.
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Do you use both on T-Mobile? Can you let me know how the signal strength/reception is on both phones?
The two big cons...
You get used to the notch they say, and I did. What I didn't get used to was the incredible waste of space to either side of it. They could have stacked two full rows of notifications in there and it would fit, not sort of fit, fit. As it is that space is wasted and I kept seeing that and in turn that would make me "see" or notice the notch. I'd seriously fire whoever made the choices on the notification area because it doesn't end there. unlike here and elsewhere if you decide to hide the notch it pushes the notifications down into the screen below the notch giving you a huge empty forehead and the screen that remains is actually less than the 5T, seriously, I had them side by side and actual usable screen is less with the notch hidden. Go back visible notch and you get to see all that wasted space again, for me there was no win. Also if you watch a video the 6T notch is like a pimple on your own nose and soon forgotten, do it on the Pixel and it's a huge pimple on your bosses nose that you have to actively try and pretend isn't there. Will you be the same? Some say yes, some say no, for me it was a definite no.
Then you have the ram management or lack of ram, I'm not going to argue over which it is and don't care. Going into recents pretty much meant waiting for the app to reopen which is so 2014; it's another thing that drove me crazy. I already knew I was running in the upper 5s of used ram with my 5T so while I do expect it would have got better both with a Goog fix and in the roms I'm pretty sure it will never be as good as it is here, which is to say flawless. Apps pretty much just pop open every time, not sure if I can recall a single app redraw so far.
Then you've got the recents/app drawer cludge which combines with the worst gestures I've ever encountered. I'm sure you've seen it in videos so I'm not going to try and paint a picture, I will say it's worse in use than it appears in a review. This one is easily fixed by installing a third party launcher and then getting rid of Googs idiotic gestures for one of the options off the market. To sum it up, the whole purpose of nav gestures is to get rid of the nav bar which gives you useable space on screen. Think about it, no gesture can ever really be easier than hitting an icon, the best they can do is equal that ease so failing to give you the screen space means you made someones life harder and gave them nothing. Total fail. Someone should be fired fail. If I were in charge of the person who sigined off on this nav/recents/gesture cludge I would fire him. No notice, excorted out of the building right now firing. The escort would be two thugs who hit his head on every hard point between his office and the curb where he was tossed. They're that bad.
So now you're thinking I hated the phone, not true, lets get into the pros...
The screen is beautiful everywhere it isn't being wasted or cut into by a cancerous tumer. I had mine up against a 6T in the store and there is no question where the better screen quality lies, it's all Pixel in that department. Wasn't just me saying that, all the store guys where over because the store was empty and they hadn't seen a Pixel in the flesh. All of us were in agreement.
You've also got the sofware experience. it's all slick and refined in a way that is unmatched in the Android ecosystem. The dialer with it's screening, spam block, and so on, the music id on the lock, etc. The phone may seem feature poor but in use it is a very pleasant device to own.
The camera is top tier. I think Goog is running out of picture refinement in software though because you can see areas like telephoto where phones with dedicated glass are getting better results now. They have added some useful features on the other hand, for example being able to pick a different picture besides the one you clicked actually works. Those who have kids will recall how getting a good photo can be a trail, they're in focus but you missed the moment, you caught the moment but it couldn't quite focus on a target that was moving fast, etc. I was able to get a few pictures of my grandkids that would have been junk but were salvaged by the feature. What I like about the camera is something it shares with the latest from Samsung and Apple, you can just point it at something and have a good expectation of a decent shot. I'm not talking art, I'm saying you got what was there and it's in focus with reasonably accurate color. It's a camera you can use without skills and a camera you can trust.
All in all I really liked the Pixel in use but the hardware is behind the curve and no matter how shiny you make it the hardware turd still lies below the polish. I went into a Tmo store to scope the 6T and when I went home I immediately called Fi and returned the phone and ordered a 6T as soon as I got done with that call. If I had my choice I'd get a 6T that had the Goog rom on it and with the higher quality screen from the Pixel but I didn't, I had to choose one before I ran out of the return window. I really couldn't get past that notch or more particularly the wasted space beside it. Seeing it next to the 6T and 5T really put it into perspective for me, what an utter fail when a year old mid range phone has more useable space than a brand new 1000 dollar flagship. I'll be a potential customer for the Pixel 4 assuming they get their hardware up to snuff with other flagships, the software experience was IMO best in class.
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Do you use both on T-Mobile? Can you let me know how the signal strength/reception is on both phones?
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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.
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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.
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Sorry, I should of been more clear in my question. I was referring to the actual signal strength for phone calls, etc. Do you notice if one phone or the other holds signals stronger than the other? Do you notice one phone may not have a signal while the other phone still has a signal?
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Sorry, I should of been more clear in my question. I was referring to the actual signal strength for phone calls, etc. Do you notice if one phone or the other holds signals stronger than the other? Do you notice one phone may not have a signal while the other phone still has a signal?
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that will be a little tougher to answer because I don't take both phones with me normally but I will carry them both for the next couple of days just to look that stuff over.
I haven't had an issue on either one with signal.
Hard to say, but the fact that I have double the Ram, a bigger battery, arguably better notch design, 4x the storage for about $300 less (depends on tax rate where you live.)
Pixel 3 XL has dual speakers, but they don't sound good at all. Wireless charging is a plus, but not a deal breaker. Higher resolution screen, but it isn't a huge difference (and I care about that a lot.) Active edges is pointless when you have OK Google and holding the home button does the same thing. Camera is AMAZING (but where tf is 60fps???), even at night without Night Shot, but the wide angle setup on the front reminds me of the LG V20 Wide angle back lens, very fishy. Battery lasts all day so that's cool, but no chance of 2 day battery life without being strict on usage. Stock and prioritized software updates are awesome, but OxygenOS is always going to have the same, if not more feature (Always on display is helpful maybe 70% of my experiences.) Again, the speaker setup is such a disappointment.
OnePlus 6T has a single speaker setup, but it sounds clearer and possibly even louder. But it is downward firing rather than forward. Hard to say if the camera is better because I haven't been about to directly compare it, but low light images are amazing, even without the night mode on. Telephoto would have been nice, but neither phone has it. The OnePlus 6T can do 4k60fps and 1080p60fps video, while the Pixel 3 XL can only do 1080p60fps, BUT YOU CAN'T SET IT TO PERMANENTLY FILM 60FPS (look it up, it's sad). Front camera works, but the Pixel 3 XL's focuses, so the Pixel 3 XL can capture more quality, regardless of the MP count. Battery is larger and should get better battery life, and so far has proven to be the case. The chin on the bottom is almost non existent, and you rarely notice it when using the phone. Fingerprint scanner under the screen is perfect for checking your phone on the desk, but isn't as accurate as the Pixel 3 XL (though the speed is pretty much the same when it is working, which for me is ~75% of the time.) Design is all opinion based, but the OP6T seems to be easier to hold in the hands and less slippery, also seems lighter, even though it is almost the same weight. Again, the notch is nicer looking on here when compared to the Pixel 3 XL.
Clearly the winner for the money is the OnePlus 6T, but the Pixel 3 XL holds up if you don't care about the price. If the OnePlus 6T has dual speakers I would say it's the winner regardless of price.
Pixel 3 XL for the CAMERA, SCREEN, WIRELESS CHARGING
OnePlus 6T for the STORAGE/MEMORY, SOFTWARE, DESIGN, FINGERPRINT SCANNER, BATTERY, 60FPS RECORDING (lol)
Something else, which is why I returned my pixel3xl - the microphone quality is aweful. Look on youtube for vids, but it's the same ****ty quality as the pixel2. Combined with a notch the size of kentucky, no facial unlock, meh battery life, disastrous memory management, and camera that saves photos only sometimes, it is a very Beta device and in my opinion worse than the 6t even at the same price. Using the Gcam on the 6t gives me nearly same photo quality so this is a tossup.
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Something else, which is why I returned my pixel3xl - the microphone quality is aweful. Look on youtube for vids, but it's the same ****ty quality as the pixel2. Combined with a notch the size of kentucky, no facial unlock, meh battery life, disastrous memory management, and camera that saves photos only sometimes, it is a very Beta device and in my opinion worse than the 6t even at the same price. Using the Gcam on the 6t gives me nearly same photo quality so this is a tossup.
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But gcam on 6T is not up to Pixel 3 level yet, we can only hope it will reach there
I'm actually thinking of picking up the 3xl myself I was going to sell my iPhone X which I finally upgraded from that abomination of a "phone" to the 6T and just have it laying around. Then was going to choose which I wanted to keep the 3xl or 6T or both. I personally think the camera is pretty bad. I mean it catches details but the focus is horrendous. The other day I was trying to take a video of the monitor to show the specs etc of a computer I was selling, this damn thing wouldn't focus for it's life just kept refocusing every couple of seconds, same thing with close up photos. It's also very much laggy, especially in video compared to my iPhone X. Largely noticeable in snap chat, you can't quickly move the phone otherwise it'll be all blur. Not sure if this is something everyone is experiencing or just my device. This is where the 3xl come in, amazing camera, pure Google, notch? As iPhone X owner I couldn't care less, build quality (6T feels premium-ishh). But from what you guys are saying apparently it's awful phone so now I'm confused as if I should or shouldn't get it.
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I'm actually thinking of picking up the 3xl myself I was going to sell my iPhone X which I finally upgraded from that abomination of a "phone" to the 6T and just have it laying around. Then was going to choose which I wanted to keep the 3xl or 6T or both. I personally think the camera is pretty bad. I mean it catches details but the focus is horrendous. The other day I was trying to take a video of the monitor to show the specs etc of a computer I was selling, this damn thing wouldn't focus for it's life just kept refocusing every couple of seconds, same thing with close up photos. It's also very much laggy, especially in video compared to my iPhone X. Largely noticeable in snap chat, you can't quickly move the phone otherwise it'll be all blur. Not sure if this is something everyone is experiencing or just my device. This is where the 3xl come in, amazing camera, pure Google, notch? As iPhone X owner I couldn't care less, build quality (6T feels premium-ishh). But from what you guys are saying apparently it's awful phone so now I'm confused as if I should or shouldn't get it.
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Pixel 3 XL is not awful by any means.. if you are not bothered about notch, you will be fine... I was in same dilemma whether to get 3 XL or 6T and got 6T.. I will be returning 6T and getting 3 XL... Sole reason is that I am not getting notifications from certain apps on 6T even after disabling all possible settings...but man this OP 6T is amazing in every other aspect.. I can live with 6T with gcam but missing notifications for my critical apps is a no-go for me
Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.
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Yes T-Mobile on both, I have two lines with them. First screenshot is the OnePlus, second is the Pixel.
The Pixel was faster on two but not by much.
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Wow how crappy LTE do you have in the US? See screenshot.
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Wow how crappy LTE do you have in the US? See screenshot.
Norway - OnePlus 6T
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Yeah I don't get real high speeds at my house. I live like 2 minutes from the beach. When I go further inland I'm usually up above 100 Mbps.
But yeah I don't think I've ever seen the speed you posted.
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Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.
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That notch though.. I had everything going for Pixel 3 XL.. but not sure if I can tolerate that notch.. am using OnePlus 6T now and it definitely feels so futuristic...
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Pixel 3 XL is way better. Screen, Speakers, Camera, Update. You cant compare both phone. Easy if you dont care about money go for Pixel and if you do go for oneplus. Google software is well optimized. Battery consumtion is less. The idle drain is less. Pixel 3 XL is the overall packaged. I dont know but i cant see myself using oneplus as my daily driver. Number on the paper is not important.
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I personally like oxygen OS better. It's stock with the perfect tweaks to it. And the ram management is far better. My pixels would close my messaging app when that was the ONLY app in my background. So damn annoying.
Performance and battery life is most essential to me. 6t takes both
Hi everyone,
Like many people out there, I'm the proud owner of a Pixel 2 XL which I love. I pre ordered and received a Pixel 4XL last week, but I haven't opened it yet out of... doubt.
I have always liked Google's phone (have had one of them for the last couple years, since the Nexus era), and I was really looking forward to get the Pixel 4XL this year, however, as many of you know... we are missing:
A fingerprint scanner: I could just use the Mod to use Face unlock on all apps, so fine, I can live without it.
Photo/video backup: I don't mind paying, but backing up videos is not going to be a $2 a month deal...
A wide-angle lens: My Pixel 2 doesn't have it either... so ok?
A real 90hz screen support without killing battery by forcing it
I'm getting tired of trying to convince myself that I should keep it, specially after I started comparing it to the OnePlus 7 Pro... which has a similar price point.
Should I just give up? Help me find reason to keep it, I have always cared more about the experience more than the hardware specs but this time it's getting tough.
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Hi everyone,
Like many people out there, I'm the proud owner of a Pixel 2 XL which I love. I pre ordered and received a Pixel 4XL last week, but I haven't opened it yet out of... doubt.
I have always liked Google's phone (have had one of them for the last couple years, since the Nexus era), and I was really looking forward to get the Pixel 4XL this year, however, as many of you know... we are missing:
A fingerprint scanner: I could just use the Mod to use Face unlock on all apps, so fine, I can live without it.
Photo/video backup: I don't mind paying, but backing up videos is not going to be a $2 a month deal...
A wide-angle lens: My Pixel 2 doesn't have it either... so ok?
A real 90hz screen support
I'm getting tired of trying to convince myself that I should keep it, specially after I started comparing it to the OnePlus 7 Pro... which has a similar price point.
Should I just give up? Help me find reason to keep it, I have always cared more about the experience more than the hardware specs but this time it's getting tough.
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I love mine, not concerned with reviews. It's fast, fluid and Android 10 runs as intended. Face Unlock is awesome. Soli gestures are cool and promising for the future I think. Camera is crazy good. 90hz works well, not sure why you'd say not real 90hz. You can force it on and it's sweet. New Assistant is awesome. It's the first phone I've ever enjoyed running stock. Everyone is different, but this is my favorite phone since Nexus 6 so far.
Can't convince you, sorry. I sent mine back. Honestly though I'm waiting till a price drop and by then maybe they will clean up the 90 hz and other minor issues ie apps not supporting face unlock.
As far as battery life goes, it lasted long enough for me. So not really concerned about that.
I would have opened that puppy, and run it through the ringer for a week. You have 2 weeks to return it...well maybe just a week now, but really, how else are you gonna know? I don't pay much attention to reviews, I buy what I like. I love my P2XL as well, but the experience for me is so much nicer than the 2, except for the FP sensor. But oh well, that's likely going to be the norm from here on out. As the saying goes.....fortis Fortuna adiuvat
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Yeah you wasted a week with it just sitting in the box. Open and use it. How can you decide without giving it a try especially if you already have it right there.
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With Pixel it's not about the specs, it's about how it works every day. Some people forget that, we use phones to get stuff done, not to attain the biggest number in stat columns. As said above, give it a try, send it back if your not feeling the love. Unless of course you know you could put the ching to better use and purchased only because you lusted your way into clicking the buy button after getting a few pints in your belly.
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With Pixel it's not about the specs, it's about how it works every day. Some people forget that, we use phones to get stuff done, not to attain the biggest number in stat columns. As said above, give it a try, send it back if your not feeling the love. Unless of course you know you could put the ching to better use and purchased only because you lusted your way into clicking the buy button after getting a few pints in your belly.
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Completely agree here, what are some of the features that are Pixel-specific? I can only think of Soli support, better google assistant (but I feel like this will be brought to all devices later?) and better photos. But I'm assuming that there are ROMs out there that port most of the Pixel features?
Like I said, I have been using Google devices only, so I don't have a reference of what I would be missing, that's mainly the reason I posted this
I had the 3 XL and I'm not looking back. Sure I miss the fingerprint sensor at times but everything else is sweeter.
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I had the 2xl and loved it but haven't doubted the switch to the 4xl at all. It's a far superior experience.
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Hi everyone,
Like many people out there, I'm the proud owner of a Pixel 2 XL which I love. I pre ordered and received a Pixel 4XL last week, but I haven't opened it yet out of... doubt.
I have always liked Google's phone (have had one of them for the last couple years, since the Nexus era), and I was really looking forward to get the Pixel 4XL this year, however, as many of you know... we are missing:
A fingerprint scanner: I could just use the Mod to use Face unlock on all apps, so fine, I can live without it.
Photo/video backup: I don't mind paying, but backing up videos is not going to be a $2 a month deal...
A wide-angle lens: My Pixel 2 doesn't have it either... so ok?
A real 90hz screen support without killing battery by forcing it
I'm getting tired of trying to convince myself that I should keep it, specially after I started comparing it to the OnePlus 7 Pro... which has a similar price point.
Should I just give up? Help me find reason to keep it, I have always cared more about the experience more than the hardware specs but this time it's getting tough.
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I went with the 4xl over the OnePlus 7 pro, I honestly couldnt be happier. I am coming from the pixel 3a as well.
Photo and video back up is still free, its just not in original quality from what I understand.
Why is everyone blaming google for app developers not incorporating face unlock into their apps. Google literally has no control over who adds face unlock.
I agree about the camera, this is also my least looked at feature.
I have the 90hz forced and I have zero issue with battery life on my xl. Battery life is subjective to the user and all reviews have zero real world use of battery life after a single week.
This is an amazing device and I really wish people would stop paying attention to these youtube reviewers who make money based off of how many clicks they get. We all know bad press and harsh titles get the most clicks. People also need to understand that a reviewer who is paid to never put down the phone is not real world use, nor does it reflect actually battery life based on ones usage.
I guess if you want the internet to tell you how to spend your money, I would just send it back. Seems like youtube has already made up your mind for you, seeing as how its been in a box for a week. When you could have opened it and made the choice yourself already.
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Completely agree here, what are some of the features that are Pixel-specific? I can only think of Soli support, better google assistant (but I feel like this will be brought to all devices later?) and better photos. But I'm assuming that there are ROMs out there that port most of the Pixel features?
Like I said, I have been using Google devices only, so I don't have a reference of what I would be missing, that's mainly the reason I posted this
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Lets see; the easiest way might be to point out a few Pixel moments during my day today. This morning I needed to send a picture of a document as a PDF. I pulled out my trusty Pixel and took a picture of it with lens which will recognize a document and offer the option to create a pdf and send as such and I was done. Later I was getting driving directions from my daughter to a local cafe which had just opened and wasn't showing on Maps. She just moved into the place but hasn't got the road names down yet so I used the recorder to get verbal directions of the "turn right at the big yellow house" kind and referenced the recording on the way. I didn't help cook dinner which made me the dishwasher when the much maligned Soli stepped in to show that it does have a use case. I've recently discovered Electronica, mostly trance, some of it I love and some of it, well, I hate. While washing dishes I swiped away several songs of the uh uh variety without having to do the quick dry off of hands. Very convenient. A general thing; I used the assistant many times trying to keep up with the Seahawk game along with a few random tasks. I find the quicker response of assistant to be a big improvement which for me was unexpected, I never felt bothered by the delay before but I find I'm liking not having it now. I also took some shots of my fast moving grandkids and the motion shot did fetch me a couple shots that were better than what I would have got without it. I also didn't get a single spam phone call today which is just like yesterday and probably tomorrow, Goog is getting really good at blocking which is much appreciated. So that's what my Pixel did for me today.
Some of those features have trickled down to previous Pixel devices or were already there and some of them have been ported over to OnePlus. I own one of those so I keep up with that side. Take the camera, they already have a port but it doesn't work as well there. It didn't with the 7, didn't with the 6T, the 6, etc. There are always missing features or bugs or something, it never just works. Same with grabbing the dialer. You get some things to work, sometimes you get all of them to work but they never all work all the time. You really do get some of the goods to work properly but you wont be recreating a Pixel experience on the OP device of the day, it's been this way all along from the first Pixel till now. This isn't to say the OP isn't a good device or that you shouldn't buy it but you shouldn't buy it thinking you're going to grab all the Pixel stuff in the ROMs, that isn't going to happen. Some of it you'll get and it works, some you get and it's buggy and/or partially works, and some you wont get at all.
Going back to the start, it's about the experience with Pixel. It's nothing revolutionary or exciting, just the little things like hearing a song you don't like and swiping it away in the middles of dishes. Seeing your grandchild blink right as you press the button but you got the picture anyways. These Pixely things don't make great bullet points but they make for a satisfying device to own.
You'd be surprised. But there was a test out there with the OnePlus 7t with the Snapdragon 855+ vs the pixel 4 with the Snapdragon 855... processing video. And the pixel 4 killed the OnePlus somhow with a slower processor and less ram. It really isn't all about the specs. This pixel 4 feels very well optimized. And let's be honest, 1+ cameras aren't as good as the pixels... Plus I'm sorry but certain things on the OnePlus when I had it, completely sucked and made it feel cheap, like the microphones, the vibration motor.
Just open up your pixel 4 and enjoy it. If you had the 2, you will love it. Plus all these silly reviews about the phone having bad battery life is ridiculous, I have force 90 on and I'm getting a full day very easily, as are many others on here.
I have had the 4XL for just over a week now and I am conflicted myself. In the UK we do not get no questions asked returns (did not buy direct from Google) so I'd have to sell it on if I decide not to keep it, I am on the fence though TBH and I think there are 3 main things that are bugging me:
- The build, some seem to like the industrial design but every time I pick it up it just feels underwhelming. Honestly I think it feels a little cheap, maybe it is those plastic look edges.
- No ultra-wide
- Storage needs managing. I have the 128gb, it is just about enough but I have to think about what I put on there. With larger storage or an SD card I can have all of my music plus some local FLAC files, Netflix or Amazon for my commute and not even think about it. 256gb rather than 128gb solves this
The thing is that there still isn't a droid that ticks all of my boxes so for me at least it is pick your compromise, I also have a Mate 20 pro (resale so low I have kept it) and I really really like it even if the OS is a little rough around the edges and the camera slightly behind the Pixel and new iPhones now. Having had both of the Note 10s and the S10 I am leaning towards thinking that Samsung maybe still offer the best overall droid package. OnePlus are so so close now though!
Google have IMO had an open goal for the last 2 years, and just do not seem able to finish the job
Lets see; the easiest way might be to point out a few Pixel moments during my day today. This morning I needed to send a picture of a document as a PDF. I pulled out my trusty Pixel and took a picture of it with lens which will recognize a document and offer the option to create a pdf and send as such and I was done. Later I was getting driving directions from my daughter to a local cafe which had just opened and wasn't showing on Maps. She just moved into the place but hasn't got the road names down yet so I used the recorder to get verbal directions of the "turn right at the big yellow house" kind and referenced the recording on the way. I didn't help cook dinner which made me the dishwasher when the much maligned Soli stepped in to show that it does have a use case. I've recently discovered Electronica, mostly trance, some of it I love and some of it, well, I hate. While washing dishes I swiped away several songs of the uh uh variety without having to do the quick dry off of hands. Very convenient. A general thing; I used the assistant many times trying to keep up with the Seahawk game along with a few random tasks. I find the quicker response of assistant to be a big improvement which for me was unexpected, I never felt bothered by the delay before but I find I'm liking not having it now. I also took some shots of my fast moving grandkids and the motion shot did fetch me a couple shots that were better than what I would have got without it. I also didn't get a single spam phone call today which is just like yesterday and probably tomorrow, Goog is getting really good at blocking which is much appreciated. So that's what my Pixel did for me today.
Some of those features have trickled down to previous Pixel devices or were already there and some of them have been ported over to OnePlus. I own one of those so I keep up with that side. Take the camera, they already have a port but it doesn't work as well there. It didn't with the 7, didn't with the 6T, the 6, etc. There are always missing features or bugs or something, it never just works. Same with grabbing the dialer. You get some things to work, sometimes you get all of them to work but they never all work all the time. You really do get some of the goods to work properly but you wont be recreating a Pixel experience on the OP device of the day, it's been this way all along from the first Pixel till now. This isn't to say the OP isn't a good device or that you shouldn't buy it but you shouldn't buy it thinking you're going to grab all the Pixel stuff in the ROMs, that isn't going to happen. Some of it you'll get and it works, some you get and it's buggy and/or partially works, and some you wont get at all.
Going back to the start, it's about the experience with Pixel. It's nothing revolutionary or exciting, just the little things like hearing a song you don't like and swiping it away in the middles of dishes. Seeing your grandchild blink right as you press the button but you got the picture anyways. These Pixely things don't make great bullet points but they make for a satisfying device to own
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You'd be surprised. But there was a test out there with the OnePlus 7t with the Snapdragon 855+ vs the pixel 4 with the Snapdragon 855... processing video. And the pixel 4 killed the OnePlus somhow with a slower processor and less ram. It really isn't all about the specs.
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Here's the video of anyone's curious.
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- The build, some seem to like the industrial design but every time I pick it up it just feels underwhelming. Honestly I think it feels a little cheap, maybe it is those plastic look edges.
- No ultra-wide
- Storage needs managing.
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1. The build has been complimented alot this year for feeling more premium. Also do you slap a case on your phone? If so then that point is kind of out the window anyway. But I understand it is a subjective thing. There may even be way a way to strip that anodizing off the borders if you are the creative type.
2. Honestly even if it had an ultra wide, you cannot use it in anything but the best lighting conditions because of the aperture. Just look at the iPhone photos in anything but perfect lighting. You are much better off if you want wide angle shots using a moment lens on your main snapper to get a proper shot... Which is exactly what I have and do. This would apply to all phones with those different lenses. I do find the tele useful though because I can actually take tele on tele shots with my zoom lens and get about 4x optical zoom, which is absolutely fantastic.
3. Storage I agree you can get in to a dead end if you like large apps and music stored on your phone locally... But if you stream and use the cloud for photos it is very doable.
I'm not going to try and convince you, but I am happy with both the 2XL and the 4XL. Each for their own reasons. There's gains and losses no matter which one you pick. With that said, I'm content with my 4XL, and I made reasons to justify the 4.
My reasons for keeping the 4; my son gets my 2XL, and I get new hardware.
I went from 2XL to 4XL and won't look back at all. The Camera has gotten me several great shots already and it just feels smoother and faster.
I'm new to the pixel family. I was with Samsung Galaxy when I had my first major brand-name phone then went to lg. Now a happy owner of the p4xl to me this phone is great great camera but lg cam 8s better hardware wise but software wise p4xl has it. I think with all the complaints I keep hearing and reading about the cam, I feel Google focus on so and software more then anything and they did a great job. Plus you get updates faster then any brand out there.. I hear people complaining also about how cheap the phone feels but this phone feel heavier then I'm use too. I feel the ones who are really complaining are not appreciative of where Google's trying to go to in the future where just thinking about hardware and how each phone out me to another phone or another competitor but I feel good doing this right sore for it was hardware wise and it's just going to get better I think but that's for a first time Google pixel 4 user experience
If you need convincing I would say you don't want it. Just my opinion but I usually know when I want to keep or return something.
I´m really pissed off about every single reviewer saying that Google should included ultrawide instead of telephoto lens and that´s why I had to write this post. I remember back in 2016 when LG G5 included wide angle camera no one cared about it and know it´s a must have feature. I used an OP 7 Pro and Iphone 11 Pro before Pixel 4 XL and guess how many times I actually used ultrawide? Only once on each phone in 3 months of usage. My opinion is that ultrawide is just a gimmick just like 50x zoom or 100xzoom bull**** from Huawei and Samsung.What do you think?
I was thrilled to have zoom over ultrawide.
Sorry but the ultrawide is very useful. It's why I've been using a Sirui wide angle lens since my Pixel 2 XL and now now my Pixel 4 XL. It's great for tight areas where you can't move back any further. And it's also great for videos because the regular lens has a pretty decent crop.
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My wife busts my balls every other day cause my phone doesn't have it. Lol I think since I've never used it I don't miss it...
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Sorry but the ultrawide is very useful. It's why I've been using a Sirui wide angle lens since my Pixel 2 XL and now now my Pixel 4 XL. It's great for tight areas where you can't move back any further. And it's also great for videos because the regular lens has a pretty decent crop.
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So why are you using Pixel if it´s that important to you?
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So why are you using Pixel if it´s that important to you?
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Because it's not a deal breaker. The still camera and user experience are the two main things I look at. I have an external wide angle lens that gets the job done but it is inconvenient. Why can't I be a Pixel owner that wishes it had all three focal points when all other flagships that came out in 2019 did?
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Because it's not a deal breaker. The still camera and user experience are the two main things I look at. I have an external wide angle lens that gets the job done but it is inconvenient. Why can't I be a Pixel owner that wishes it had all three focal points when all other flagships that came out in 2019 did?
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You remember that Pixel had only one lens until Pixel 4 and it was still the best camera on the market? Also no one complained about it when all the other flagships had 2 or 3 lenses and now when they actually included second telephoto lens people are complaining about now having third ultrawide lens. My point is that they could go with only one improved lens and it would still be the best camera on the market.
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You remember that Pixel had only one lens until Pixel 4 and it was still the best camera on the market? Also no one complained about it when all the other flagships had 2 or 3 lenses and now when they actually included second telephoto lens people are complaining about now having third ultrawide lens. My point is that they could go with only one improved lens and it would still be the best camera on the market.
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People didn't complain with the Pixel 1 because 3 focal lengths wasn't a standard back then in 2016. In 2019, the Pixel 4 was the ONLY flagship phone that didn't have all 3. My point is that yes it's got a great still camera but for charging $799 for the 4 and $899 for the 4 XL, it was bit overpriced for getting less. And I'm not just talking about less cameras. We got smaller batteries, less bright screen, less internal storage, less video recording options, slower fast charging. Me being such a fan of the Pixel line, STILL kept my purchase and I made compromises with each of the "lesser" areas but we shouldn't have to. Or the phone should've been a lesser price to begin with instead of penalizing early adopters.
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People didn't complain with the Pixel 1 because 3 focal lengths wasn't a standard back then in 2016. In 2019, the Pixel 4 was the ONLY flagship phone that didn't have all 3. My point is that yes it's got a great still camera but for charging $799 for the 4 and $899 for the 4 XL, it was bit overpriced for getting less. And I'm not just talking about less cameras. We got smaller batteries, less bright screen, less internal storage, less video recording options, slower fast charging. Me being such a fan of the Pixel line, STILL kept my purchase and I made compromises with each of the "lesser" areas but we shouldn't have to. Or the phone should've been a lesser price to begin with instead of penalizing early adopters.
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I agree you with you about the prices and less storage(64GB is still enough for most of users tho) but I can´t agree with you about battery life and slower fast charging. Nexus and Pixel phones was never intented to be phones for average consumers and I guess they´ll never be.They are for people who will root their phones and install custom kernels immediately after getting one.I did that with every Nexus and Pixel phone I had and experience is 10/10 after that. As of slower charging(18W is still fast enough for me as it charge my phone from 0 to 40-45% in 30 minutes) it´s actually better becuse battery won´t degrade so quickly.
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I agree you with you about the prices and less storage(64GB is still enough for most of users tho) but I can´t agree with you about battery life and slower fast charging. Nexus and Pixel phones was never intented to be phones for average consumers and I guess they´ll never be.They are for people who will root their phones and install custom kernels immediately after getting one.I did that with every Nexus and Pixel phone I had and experience is 10/10 after that. As of slower charging(18W is still fast enough for me as it charge my phone from 0 to 40-45% in 30 minutes) it´s actually better becuse battery won´t degrade so quickly.
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You're still living in the Nexus past. Google's Pixel line has been for the general consumer hence why they spend millions on advertisements. And general consumers don't care about battery degradation. They see a phone that gets to to 80% in 30 minutes versus a phone that gets to 80% in 60 minutes, which are they going to choose? They see a phone with 3700 mAh versus a phone with 4100 mAh or greater, which are they going to choose? And 64 GB is not enough when we have 4K video recording. Yes I've made my compromise with Google Drive full quality backup but 128 GB should've been the base. Google's not Apple to make that 64GB still standard. They're in the Android world of devices that offer 128GB at same or lesser price.
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Don't care about the ultra wide. There's other ways around it that are just fine. Screw reviewers, I can't stand watching them anymore.
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You're still living in the Nexus past. Google's Pixel line has been for the general consumer hence why they spend millions on advertisements. And general consumers don't care about battery degradation. They see a phone that gets to to 80% in 30 minutes versus a phone that gets to 80% in 60 minutes, which are they going to choose? They see a phone with 3700 mAh versus a phone with 4100 mAh or greater, which are they going to choose? And 64 GB is not enough when we have 4K video recording. Yes I've made my compromise with Google Drive full quality backup but 128 GB should've been the base. Google's not Apple to make that 64GB still standard. They're in the Android world of devices that offer 128GB at same or lesser price.
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Yeah maybe they want it to be the phone for average consumers but only in USA to compete with Apple. Here in Croatia and most of the Europe probably 80% of average consumers never heard of Pixel phones and I know that beacuse I work in telecommunications. Samsung and Huawei dominates here for years now.
Overall I care less about either a telephoto or an ultrawide than I do having a great main sensor (wouldn't trade P4 camera for the S20 for example)
BUT the ultrawide is more useful than telephoto and wouldn't have detracted anything from the experience, google not including it is literally just them being cheap
I was disappointed that there wasn't an ultrawide, even though it wasn't a dealbreaker. A friend had gotten the new iphone around the same time and his ultrawide was impressive and useful. For everyday shots, I think the ultrawide is alot more useful, especially in group shots. For zoom shots, I have a real camera for that because zoom generally requires better lenses, motion stabilization, etc in order to get good shots -- so I didn't really need it on my pixel.
For what the phone is ultrawide, among other things is a miss. Google continues to hamstring themselves and then wonder why they don't move enough phones. All the points EeZePeZe pointed out are valid, Google should make three tiers like Apple (can't believe I said that out loud), there should be a high end, great screen, BIG battery, more/faster storage, ultrawide camera, all the bells and whistles, you get it for $1,000-$1200. Then a middle of the road "good" phone$650-$750 range and a price point phone $400-$500. That new iPhone is going to sell really well from the looks of it.
I don't agree with the 3 tier idea. At the time of introduction this phone was selling as a flagship phone for flagship money and flagship phones are called that for a reason; they come loaded with all the latest goodies that can be packed into the frame. That is what makes a flagship a flagship and flagship and no excuses can be made, it either is or it is not. I've had the wide and didn't use it outside of a couple of tryout pics. Just not my thing so I don't miss it but that doesn't mean I give the phone a pass in terms of what it should be based on it's intended flagship status and price. Google should have thrown it in, it's really that simple to me. Flagship phones selling for flagship money have wide angle cameras and this was sold as a flagship phone and at flagship prices and should be able to carry that freight.
In my mind they need to pack actual flagship specs if they want to play in that market or move down market and sell at a lower price point. When you think about it they have been doing the latter for years as long as you wait a month and then buy it. Don't get me wrong, I love Pixel phones based on the experience and they are excellent cameras for taking the kinds of shots I take but this phone is not a flagship and should have gone on the market for the price they're now selling for which is 300 or more under MSRP. As a way of putting into perspective the experience on the 3a Xl was much the same but the price was very different.
I wish I had it tbh
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I don't agree with the 3 tier idea. At the time of introduction this phone was selling as a flagship phone for flagship money and flagship phones are called that for a reason; they come loaded with all the latest goodies that can be packed into the frame. That is what makes a flagship a flagship and flagship and no excuses can be made, it either is or it is not. I've had the wide and didn't use it outside of a couple of tryout pics. Just not my thing so I don't miss it but that doesn't mean I give the phone a pass in terms of what it should be based on it's intended flagship status and price. Google should have thrown it in, it's really that simple to me. Flagship phones selling for flagship money have wide angle cameras and this was sold as a flagship phone and at flagship prices and should be able to carry that freight.
In my mind they need to pack actual flagship specs if they want to play in that market or move down market and sell at a lower price point. When you think about it they have been doing the latter for years as long as you wait a month and then buy it. Don't get me wrong, I love Pixel phones based on the experience and they are excellent cameras for taking the kinds of shots I take but this phone is not a flagship and should have gone on the market for the price they're now selling for which is 300 or more under MSRP. As a way of putting into perspective the experience on the 3a Xl was much the same but the price was very different.
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We agree Google should be adding in all the flagship specs so who cares if there are three tiers or not we already have two? As it stands they offer a "flagship priced" (initially) phone that is really in the "good" category and an "A" version that is their price point phone. They just need a true highend specced phone to appeal to more of a buying segment. I just don't understand whomever it is that makes these hardware decision for Google when there is so many examples of effective marketing to borrow from.
I'm a die-hard pixel user and I really miss not having a wide-angle. I I have the moment case and a couple lenses, looking to buy the superfish right now. The wide-angle is great IMO. I do wish video quality was close to iPhones though. I honestly never use the zoom lens.
No, telephoto over wide angle any day whether DSLR or phone.
Good evening,
I have been using the Google Pixel 6 for more than a year and am basically satisfied with it. However, I think that an upgrade is necessary. Would the Pixel 7(a) be recommendable here? The only thing that has bothered me about Pixel 6 is dark scenes in videos. Black pixels are lit up in a funny way and yet you can't see much in the videos. Otherwise, I am also open to other brands with good price-performance ratio.
I am grateful for any advice and opinion!
Welcome to XDA.
In general the improvements from year to year aren't that much; not much bang for the buck unless you get a really good trade-in deal.
I'm still using my Note 10+ and in many ways it's superior to the newest Samsung's and not much slower in actual normal usage. Nitpicking over a couple pixels for a cam upgrade isn't worth all that trouble. Pro cam shooters rarely upgrade their cam every year or two...
Bottom line; depends how deep your pockets are.
If you don't upgrade expect to replace the battery soon, routine maintenance, no big deal.
blackhawk said:
Welcome to XDA.
In general the improvements from year to year aren't that much; not much bang for the buck unless you get a really good trade-in deal.
I'm still using my Note 10+ and in many ways it's superior to the newest Samsung's and not much slower in actual normal usage. Nitpicking over a couple pixels for a cam upgrade isn't worth all that trouble. Pro cam shooters rarely upgrade their cam every year or two...
Bottom line; depends how deep your pockets are.
If you don't upgrade expect to replace the battery soon, routine maintenance, no big deal.
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Thank you very much for your opinion!
In the Google Telegram channel I got recommended that I wait until October for the Pixel 8. Let's see what that brings, except for the unnecessary built-in fever thermometer.
I replaced my P6 with a P7 after it was accidentally damaged beyond repair. I can barely tell the differance. The phones seem to drop in price quite a bit about 3 or 4 months after their release, so if you can wait til the end of January most of the early bugs will have been worked out and the price will have dropped by at least $100.
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I replaced my P6 with a P7 after it was accidentally damaged beyond repair. I can barely tell the differance. The phones seem to drop in price quite a bit about 3 or 4 months after their release, so if you can wait til the end of January most of the early bugs will have been worked out and the price will have dropped by at least $100.
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You benefit by waiting not only in a reduced price but by seeing if any unsolvable hardware bugs are present. I would give it 6 months. Use independent reviews here, on utube and Reddit to better guage the actual performance and any issues that crop up with the device.
Look at the mess some of the S23U owners are having with the banana shaped optical blurring with their main cam. It's not just Samsung, both Android hardware and firmware are more shake & bake then ever. When people are in a big bad hurry... mistakes happen. Sit back, observe then pick the device that will best fullfill your mission if you have that luxury. A good flagship should last you many years.
Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
PuffinNugz said:
Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
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Do the Google phone vs phone vid search. A 2019 flagship can hold up well to the newer phones. Replace battery as needed and keep rollin.
PuffinNugz said:
Just upgraded to the Pixel 7 from the 4xl. Only real improvements I see is less bezel, updates install faster, and slightly better camera. May return the 7 and stick with the 4xl a bit longer.
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I've never used the 4xl but I like its lens spec. With newer Pixels I'd rather not resort to digital zoom for avoiding distortion. 7 Pro answers that but only if prices drop enough.
SmilingPeace said:
Good evening,
I have been using the Google Pixel 6 for more than a year and am basically satisfied with it. However, I think that an upgrade is necessary. Would the Pixel 7(a) be recommendable here? The only thing that has bothered me about Pixel 6 is dark scenes in videos. Black pixels are lit up in a funny way and yet you can't see much in the videos. Otherwise, I am also open to other brands with good price-performance ratio.
I am grateful for any advice and opinion!
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I had a Pixel 6 since they were announced and was very happy with it except for the fingerprint reader. I work with wood a lot and it seems to screw up my fingerprint mightily. I basically abandoned the fingerprint reader and just used a PIN. When the Pixel 7 arrived, I traded-in my Pixel 6 and got a Pixel 7. I am very happy with face unlock and that I don't have to deal with the fingerprint reader anymore. I can't say anything about the 7A, but the Pixel 7 screen is very much like the Pixel 6. In fact, I think of my Pixel 7 as a "Pixel 6, refined." There might not be enough difference in the screen to make it worth it. Same with the cameras. Again, this relates only to the Pixel 7, not the Pixel 7A.
I went from the 6 to 7. It was a lateral but very needed upgrade. Much more stable.
I plan to get a 7 real soon as I found a nice deal on it. Leomgrass color
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I went from the 6 to 7. It was a lateral but very needed upgrade. Much more stable.
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No need to wait I guess if I found a good deal yea? I mean wait till later this year for the new one