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Predictions for sales

So what do you guys predict for sales figures for this? If Google can make a big announcement out of this on the Play website and actually make a commercial, I say it will be Kindle Fire sales figures.

Google really needs to market the device ... but we'll see! I would hope a lot with that price range.

Good comparison between the various 7" mainstream devices
http://www.theverge.com/products/compare/5831/2506/3767/5147/

darkamikaze said:
Google really needs to market the device ... but we'll see!
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Agreed. I preordered the 8GB version. My Kindle Fire with CM9 seems fine with just 8GB so I figure I'm "safe".

I'm hesitant without a micro-sd slot...how can you really market it as improved for 3d gaming if you only have enough room for a couple of really big games after music and videos, etc?
Now, if it has support for USB OTG then I'll be good...thumb drive and a little velcro and I'm set.

RowanOak said:
I'm hesitant without a micro-sd slot.
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Nice tablet but this is the deal breaker for me.

El Queson said:
Nice tablet but this is the deal breaker for me.
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Why is that?
For me, its not really a big deal, I don't put 1000 apps and 10,000 movies on my tablet at time. I usually have 50-100 apps and about 5-6 movies on it at a time. If you aren't using it, why have it on there?

im also hesitant without an sd card, but i figured you can always use cloud storage to save things (drive, dropbox, etc). thats why i also skipped on the galaxy nexus, oh well. im still ordering one.x)

I said it in the other thread. There are wireless drives you can use with this. I personally have the Kingston widrive (32gb) & the airstash (any SD card). There is also a Seagate 500gb HDD that is wireless that should work.

The iPad has no expandable memory but it's sales are through the roof.

homegeek said:
The iPad has no expandable memory but it's sales are through the roof.
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So you're saying I should buy an iPad then? :cyclops:

Paten said:
So you're saying I should buy an iPad then? :cyclops:
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I am just saying that non-expandable memory is nothing new and it does not seem to be an issue with other tablets.

homegeek said:
I am just saying that non-expandable memory is nothing new and it does not seem to be an issue with other tablets.
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If it wasn't an issue with me, I would have already bought one of those other tablets. It is an issue with me though, so if I won't buy the other tablets because they lack a feature I want, I won't buy this one either.
I don't live in the cloud. I don't want to live in the cloud. I will not live in the cloud. No one wants to sell me a product with the features I want, they want to sell me a device that leverages their ****ing cloud product so they can sift thru my **** and know what ads to direct my way. **** that.

Paten said:
If it wasn't an issue with me, I would have already bought one of those other tablets. It is an issue with me though, so if I won't buy the other tablets because they lack a feature I want, I won't buy this one either.
I don't live in the cloud. I don't want to live in the cloud. I will not live in the cloud. No one wants to sell me a product with the features I want, they want to sell me a device that leverages their ****ing cloud product so they can sift thru my **** and know what ads to direct my way. **** that.
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Look at the options. Don't be so closed minded.
Just signing up for google & they are getting your information. Why do you think they offer everything for free.

Paten said:
If it wasn't an issue with me, I would have already bought one of those other tablets. It is an issue with me though, so if I won't buy the other tablets because they lack a feature I want, I won't buy this one either.
I don't live in the cloud. I don't want to live in the cloud. I will not live in the cloud. No one wants to sell me a product with the features I want, they want to sell me a device that leverages their ****ing cloud product so they can sift thru my **** and know what ads to direct my way. **** that.
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You have to buy what is right for you but for the average person it wont be an issue.

monkeyluis said:
Look at the options. Don't be so closed minded.
Just signing up for google & they are getting your information. Why do you think they offer everything for free.
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Why do you think I don't use any of their free ****? Free is the only way I will take a tablet without a microSD slot. Let me know when that happens.
My only hope now is that Asus still comes out with their own 7" tablet and still includes the features I want. I'll even pay a couple of dollars more for it. Just give me the option.

Paten said:
Why do you think I don't use any of their free ****? Free is the only way I will take a tablet without a microSD slot. Let me know when that happens.
My only hope now is that Asus still comes out with their own 7" tablet and still includes the features I want. I'll even pay a couple of dollars more for it. Just give me the option.
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You don't use free stuff? Really? Does XDA charge you to use its website? And you're using it to post your rant???

HDMI
I didn't see anything about HDMI output either....only streaming....that's my deal breaker.... unless i missed something.

"They" as in Google. Yes, I use Gmail. However that doesn't mean I want to trust them with all my data in their cloud.

Paten said:
Why do you think I don't use any of their free ****? Free is the only way I will take a tablet without a microSD slot. Let me know when that happens.
My only hope now is that Asus still comes out with their own 7" tablet and still includes the features I want. I'll even pay a couple of dollars more for it. Just give me the option.
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if you require a sd slot galaxy tab 7 2 it is $250 there you go, im going to assume that asus wont make a 7 inch tablet of there own due to competing with it self for no reason. there are 5 other 7 inch tablets no one is making you buy this one, so dont complain about what you can control
notime2d8 said:
I didn't see anything about HDMI output either....only streaming....that's my deal breaker.... unless i missed something.
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It supports MHL as displayed during the keynote

Where is the official case from Samsung?

Any idea where it is? Is it still coming? I remember hearing rumors of them doing a last minute redesign. Any ideas?

Where is the anything from Samsung? There are ZERO accessories. I love my N10, but Samsung is schizophrenic with their accessories.

tvBilly said:
Where is the anything from Samsung? There are ZERO accessories. I love my N10, but Samsung is schizophrenic with their accessories.
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Yup, if there is one thing that Samsung is poor at it is how they handle accessories. Half of the items announced with the GS3 never made it off the production line. They could have made a killing too. I would have purchased the wireless charging kit and possibly the all share play dongle.

I've been waiting for the pogo charger or pogo dock or keyboard or something.......still waiting.

Well, if they were holding back to see how sales were, Samsung should be turning the lights on at the accessory manufacturing plant right about now

I am just hoping that the Nexus 10 gets more accessories than the Galaxy Nexus phone. I love the phone, but hate the complete lack of quality accessories for it.

I guess all the plant are still manufacturing N10 units to fullfil the orders...

My advice would be to forget about waiting on Samsung... Go to the galaxy nexus forums and search for the home made pogo pin docks... if you wait for Samsung you may never get one.

Speed_419 said:
I am just hoping that the Nexus 10 gets more accessories than the Galaxy Nexus phone. I love the phone, but hate the complete lack of quality accessories for it.
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That´s the reason I´m afraid there will be no "oficial" accesories for the Nexus 10 I´m waiting for the smart cover, but beginning to lose faith as there seem to be no news...

Jp1138 said:
That´s the reason I´m afraid there will be no "oficial" accesories for the Nexus 10 I´m waiting for the smart cover, but beginning to lose faith as there seem to be no news...
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Samsung has very wired marketing strategy, you don't think so...
Why they don't want to increase revenue from manufactured accessories..

Funky Games said:
Samsung has very wired marketing strategy, you don't think so...
Why they don't want to increase revenue from manufactured accessories..
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I don´t know if they consider this a Google product more than a Samsung one. This could make things even worse than with their flagship products as the SIII, that as far as I know dont have too many accesories either.

Jp1138 said:
I don´t know if they consider this a Google product more than a Samsung one...
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When I called Samsung, the person on the line had no idea what a Nexus 10 was, and after 5 minutes of being on hold (I guess the person went "searching" for information), he forwarded me to Play Store support. Sounds like it's more of a Google-thing.

espionage724 said:
When I called Samsung, the person on the line had no idea what a Nexus 10 was, and after 5 minutes of being on hold (I guess the person went "searching" for information), he forwarded me to Play Store support. Sounds like it's more of a Google-thing.
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We should be calling google for cover/cases, I guess

They're missing out on a crap ton of money on these. Every single person who's waited ages for their N10 would shell out money for that pogo charger and I've never seen someone with a tablet or phone without a case on it. Between ordering problems and no accessories I'm shocked at how bad Google dropped the ball on this one.

Jp1138 said:
We should be calling google for cover/cases, I guess
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Yeah, but Samsung is the OEM.

edgie168 said:
Yeah, but Samsung is the OEM.
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And Foxconn is the OEM for ipads, yet you look to Apple for accessories.
It's googles job to arrange cases etc and get people into the addon market. Just like you look to them for software, noone asks for samsung to make the new o/s

[q] is the mi3 this worth buying?

Guys I'm sure this Question would be raised much earlier, but not able to see this post. Read a lot many negative reviews about this phone, flipkart having issues with replacements, service centers not operational etc.. In a big dilemma weather to buy this or not..
Genuine advice please.

bharath88 said:
Guys I'm sure this Question would be raised much earlier, but not able to see this post. Read a lot many negative reviews about this phone, flipkart having issues with replacements, service centers not operational etc.. In a big dilemma weather to buy this or not..
Genuine advice please.
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For the money you are paying , it is definitely worth. Even i saw many negative reviews but later most of the users got their replacement , moreover the bugs are software kinda issues you could official Xiaomi English forum to fix software kinda issues.
I bought my Mi3 from flipkart only i dont have any issues so far i bought 2nd flash sale on flipkart. The sim card tray will be lil hard to open just push it hard it will pop out So Definitely for 14k it is Worth it!

a phone with better specs than Nexus 5 for half the price, do you really have to ask that question?
i am paying considerably more for it because i have to import from china, and i'd say it is still worth every penny.
for that kind of money i would only get a low-midrange device in my country (except i would go for a subsidized one with provider lock)
as with all electronic devices, there are probably going to be duds, as even the best QC will not test every single device. happens to the best. should not be used to judge in my opinion, except there is a high number of failing devices.
you have local service centers, so even that would not be a problem.
i envy you people in India, and still there are some *peeep* complaining.
check your alternatives in that price range and then tell me if you found something better?
sorry for the ranty post... i certainly don't mean to offend anyone.
don't worry too much, just buy one and enjoy it.

Lol...I just ordered my third Mi3 yesterday for my son...

i'll buy it
for me mi3 is just unfair for smartphone competition, it will drag all the fancy phone come play to the ground. MI 3 still the best phone in its class compared to others. just minus couple of things like no sdcard, no lte, not a water proof and not a dust proof. Other than that, it is a great phone and the best in its class..

and please go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-mi-3/general/indian-xiaomi-mi3-owners-thread-views-t2846354

What bank you use for Samsung pay

I have been use-ins Samsung pay With capital one. it works at walmart with No Problems at N F C terminal no problems But with Mst it is hit or Miss. Can not get to work at gas stations - I feal like it's a issue with the Bank I am using
. what bank do- you use and what Percent dose it work for you looking is starting another account with P. N.C

Won't work at gas stations because they require you to insert the card.
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I am talking about inside. Not outside. I called Samsung pay and my bank they both say they should be working

harlenm said:
Won't work at gas stations because they require you to insert the card.
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I've been able to trick a few gas stations, I put in either my Drivers license or my credit card in backwards then pull it out quick and immediately put your phone up to the pump.

If you are gonna do that, why not just use a credit card? Seems like twice as many steps for the same result.
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harlenm said:
If you are gonna do that, why not just use a credit card? Seems like twice as many steps for the same result.
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Points. Anyway, I've noticed that places that fail with the note 8...works with the Gear s3. Weird.

There are some retailers that will reject Samsung pay even if there is no technical reason to do so, should work does not mean it will work. I know off the top of my head Costco does not allow Samsung pay using MST (though I have not come across a Costco that has NFC).
At issue might be that if the retailer has chip and pin setup, then it will outright reject MST transactions if the card being used supports chip and pin.
I also suspect, and this is pure conjecture on my behalf, it has something to do with the tokenization and the inability to track spending patterns (if i recall gas stations are highly susceptible to false positive that anti-fraudulent algorithm detection uses) .

SteelPicori said:
There are some retailers that will reject Samsung pay even if there is no technical reason to do so, should work does not mean it will work. I know off the top of my head Costco does not allow Samsung pay using MST (though I have not come across a Costco that has NFC).
At issue might be that if the retailer has chip and pin setup, then it will outright reject MST transactions if the card being used supports chip and pin.
I also suspect, and this is pure conjecture on my behalf, it has something to do with the tokenization and the inability to track spending patterns (if i recall gas stations are highly susceptible to false positive that anti-fraudulent algorithm detection uses) .
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I thought it was the chip Samsung and capital one say it's not. It's really not that big of a deal that it don't work I cross the on as that don't out of my places to shop. If I can get points for purchasing stuff I already was going to purchase for later to get 100 dollar gift cards 6 months later I'm going to do it.
Wish wish there was a way to know where it works and what don't I deal embarrassed when it gets declined

I use American Express and it works pretty much everywhere. But in NY it's basically a law to have Android/Apple/ and samsung pay support in every store. I use both forms of Samsung pay and it works basically every time. I'll give Android pay a shot sometime but not for a little while mainly because Samsung pays little swipe up for debit card use is awesome. Also I should say that in my experience (earlier today at a dollar general) I was having issues with the mst. But I found out it was due to placement. Also my note 8 froze the cashier computer so we had to reboot the computer and try it and it all worked great. So if you have issues just see if it's a placement issue.

Lack of everything.

Day by day I'm getting regretted of buying the Honor Play instead of POCO F1, the main reason is not the phone, speaker or the camera quality.
Since I clearly knew what I'm buying. But because of the ecosystem around the phone.
Couldn't buy a decent tempered glass from a good brand. Couldn't buy a decent case for the phone since the volume is not high and most case manufacturer ditched the phone.
On top of everything it's the attitude of the honor company itself. They just meant that after the selling it's your product not the companies.
I already mentioned the terrible lack of official accessories. Even for some accessories the site always mentioned out of stock.
On top of everything the accessories section itself is removed from the Indian website. Which means we only sell phones.
In mobile i can access the accessories section which contains only the charger, band and watch, that too out of stock.
Can't the company keep atleast the charger. It's pathetic.
I want to buy a charger since kirin chipset supports proprietary charging for office use and couldn't get anywhere. Not even in online portals.
This might be my last device with Honor or Huawei even how good it may be.
Worst part of it is, i tried to mail them last time and the mail bounced back. Never seen such irresponsible company.

I feel your pain and know where you are coming from, my last phone was a Nokia 8 which was in a similar position and the honor play is the same sort of way.
I can recommend this as a screen protector though:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KHP66ND/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's not tempered glass but it'll protect the screen against most scratches.
As for the case I've ordered this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07F2J4XQY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But it hasn't arrived so I can't say anything about it's quality.
I sucked it up and paid for a bootloader code and having rooted the phone and removed a lot of the bloatware I'm happy with the Android now, although I would like OpenKirin to make it's way onto the device.

jameswstubbs said:
I feel your pain and know where you are coming from, my last phone was a Nokia 8 which was in a similar position and the honor play is the same sort of way.
I can recommend this as a screen protector though:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07KHP66ND/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
It's not tempered glass but it'll protect the screen against most scratches.
As for the case I've ordered this:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07F2J4XQY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
But it hasn't arrived so I can't say anything about it's quality.
I sucked it up and paid for a bootloader code and having rooted the phone and removed a lot of the bloatware I'm happy with the Android now, although I would like OpenKirin to make it's way onto the device.
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Where did you pay to unlock the bootloader? How much money?

About £40, much more than I'd have like to have paid (and that i think I should have paid at all...) but if I didn't unlock it I'd have just sold the phone and gone back to a Nokia for a more stock Android.

jameswstubbs said:
About £40, much more than I'd have like to have paid (and that i think I should have paid at all...) but if I didn't unlock it I'd have just sold the phone and gone back to a Nokia for a more stock Android.
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What service did you pay to unlock? Dcunlocker or other?

Ratheesh6 said:
Day by day I'm getting regretted of buying the Honor Play instead of POCO F1, the main reason is not the phone, speaker or the camera quality.
Since I clearly knew what I'm buying. But because of the ecosystem around the phone.
Couldn't buy a decent tempered glass from a good brand. Couldn't buy a decent case for the phone since the volume is not high and most case manufacturer ditched the phone.
On top of everything it's the attitude of the honor company itself. They just meant that after the selling it's your product not the companies.
I already mentioned the terrible lack of official accessories. Even for some accessories the site always mentioned out of stock.
On top of everything the accessories section itself is removed from the Indian website. Which means we only sell phones.
In mobile i can access the accessories section which contains only the charger, band and watch, that too out of stock.
Can't the company keep atleast the charger. It's pathetic.
I want to buy a charger since kirin chipset supports proprietary charging for office use and couldn't get anywhere. Not even in online portals.
This might be my last device with Honor or Huawei even how good it may be.
Worst part of it is, i tried to mail them last time and the mail bounced back. Never seen such irresponsible company.
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Quit your whining. Who buys official accessories? If you want a charger, buy a usb-c charger. Mine works in the office, just like it works anywhere you can plug it in - office, train, home etc. It's your product after you bought it? What does that even mean? Of course it's yours after you bought it. You're not making any sense, man!

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Quit your whining. Who buys official accessories? If you want a charger, buy a usb-c charger. Mine works in the office, just like it works anywhere you can plug it in - office, train, home etc. It's your product after you bought it? What does that even mean? Of course it's yours after you bought it. You're not making any sense, man!
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Official accessories is another way of looking at companies interest in providing an ecosystem around the product. An assurance that providing support after sales. I'm using normal USB C charger in my office and official charger at home. Kirin uses proprietary charging techniques so third party supported charger is too few. My problem is why can't they have charger in store? Is that difficult to source even? If they can't even source the charger what will happen if any parts of my phone go kaboom. Will it ever get's repaired?
Apart from that how can an official email id get's bounced. Even my personal gmail have unlimited space. My problem is the companies attitude towards users not the product. it keeps the phone alive for at-least some years. I had low volume phones in past and had difficulties in company stopped updating it before an year. I don't want Honor Play to join that list.

Just sell your phone and buy a pocof1, good luck with that

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Just sell your phone and buy a pocof1, good luck with that
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I'm not saying that I'm going to buy but when Play got released F1 was in vicinity and i know it's pros and cons. Number of good accessories released for that phone is more than play and a little push from the company partnering with few more manufacturers will increase the value of the product. My regret is not with the phone, it's a great phone and am enjoying every bit of it. Just disappointed with the company.

i bought honor play at the time when poco f1 was going on flash sales on flipkart i missed my opportunity to buy poco twice due to that stupid flash sale and hence out of frustration i bought honor play

Ratheesh6 said:
I'm not saying that I'm going to buy but when Play got released F1 was in vicinity and i know it's pros and cons. Number of good accessories released for that phone is more than play and a little push from the company partnering with few more manufacturers will increase the value of the product. My regret is not with the phone, it's a great phone and am enjoying every bit of it. Just disappointed with the company.
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The thing is, you should have also realized these chinese companies are releasing products left and right. Honor Play is not a flagship phone. Its a budget phone and Honor/huawei have better products to support. Dont be a dumb person and make do what you bought. Just buy a freaking usb c charger it will work. Damn these millenials pisses me off
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You want a company that supports their phones all the way? Buy an iphone. Damn