Unlocked version on Verizon question. - Google Pixel 4 XL Questions & Answers

So I recently purchased a Verizon phone direct from the store and forgot that I needed to get the unlocked version. Long story short, I got a google unlocked phone and updated it over wifi to the latest firmware. I am not sure I want to unlock the bootloader and root just yet, but I would like to start using it. I also need to return the verizon one with in 14 days to get a refund. so my question is, once I put the verizon sim in the unlocked google phone, will the OEM Unlocking option get greyed out preventing me from rooting down the road if I choose? Right now it is obviously available and I can toggle it. TIA.
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Light1984 said:
So I recently purchased a Verizon phone direct from the store and forgot that I needed to get the unlocked version. Long story short, I got a google unlocked phone and updated it over wifi to the latest firmware. I am not sure I want to unlock the bootloader and root just yet, but I would like to start using it. I also need to return the verizon one with in 14 days to get a refund. so my question is, once I put the verizon sim in the unlocked google phone, will the OEM Unlocking option get greyed out preventing me from rooting down the road if I choose? Right now it is obviously available and I can toggle it. TIA.
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So my understanding is that you now have 2 phones, correct? One on Verizon that you will pay $35 restocking fee on and another Google version that is, naturally, unlocked. I have an unlocked Google version as well with a Verizon sim in it. If your oem switch is active now then there is nothing you can do that will deactivate it. You're safe and you can send back the VZW phone today.

bobby janow said:
So my understanding is that you now have 2 phones, correct? One on Verizon that you will pay $35 restocking fee on and another Google version that is, naturally, unlocked. I have an unlocked Google version as well with a Verizon sim in it. If your oem switch is active now then there is nothing you can do that will deactivate it. You're safe and you can send back the VZW phone today.
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That's great news!! Thank you. I was worried Verizon would be able to toggle it somehow and keep me from accessing it once the sim provisioned on the Google phone. For instance, WiFi HotSpot works on the google phone now, but I assume once I put the verizon sim in that will stop working.

Light1984 said:
That's great news!! Thank you. I was worried Verizon would be able to toggle it somehow and keep me from accessing it once the sim provisioned on the Google phone. For instance, WiFi HotSpot works on the google phone now, but I assume once I put the verizon sim in that will stop working.
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That toggle disable is built into the device and not subject to sim or carrier. Just as enabling it is as well. But to your hotspot I'm just not sure how that works. I have hotspot on Verizon I guess because of the plan I'm on so I never thought about it. How does that work if you don't have the Google phone with a carrier yet? I'm kind of out of it when it comes to that since I only use it when the electricity goes out at home or I'm in a stupid hotel that charges for internet.

bobby janow said:
That toggle disable is built into the device and not subject to sim or carrier. Just as enabling it is as well. But to your hotspot I'm just not sure how that works. I have hotspot on Verizon I guess because of the plan I'm on so I never thought about it. How does that work if you don't have the Google phone with a carrier yet? I'm kind of out of it when it comes to that since I only use it when the electricity goes out at home or I'm in a stupid hotel that charges for internet.
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Yea, I'm not sure. On the Verizon phone with the sim card it in pops up with a notification that says to call my carrier to activate this feature. The Google phone let's me setup a hotspot and put in SSID info and password. I know it has something to do with build.prop, was just curious if that is something that will change once I pop in sim.

Light1984 said:
Yea, I'm not sure. On the Verizon phone with the sim card it in pops up with a notification that says to call my carrier to activate this feature. The Google phone let's me setup a hotspot and put in SSID info and password. I know it has something to do with build.prop, was just curious if that is something that will change once I pop in sim.
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Pop it in already! Lol. Curious.

bobby janow said:
That toggle disable is built into the device and not subject to sim or carrier. Just as enabling it is as well. But to your hotspot I'm just not sure how that works. I have hotspot on Verizon I guess because of the plan I'm on so I never thought about it. How does that work if you don't have the Google phone with a carrier yet? I'm kind of out of it when it comes to that since I only use it when the electricity goes out at home or I'm in a stupid hotel that charges for internet.
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bobby janow said:
Pop it in already! Lol. Curious.
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Haha, I am too, but not sure I want to be the guinea pig.

Light1984 said:
Haha, I am too, but not sure I want to be the guinea pig.
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We've all been there. It's worth it.

bobby janow said:
We've all been there. It's worth it.
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For anyone else curious, the OEM unlock toggle is still available after installing Verizon sim. In case it matters, I started the phone first time with no sim, connected to WiFi, updated to December firmware, added Google account, setup phone, updated apps, setup WiFi hotspot, then installed sim. After reboot, my wife could connect to my hotspot but could not get internet access. But OEM unlock is good to go with this method. So I'll have to root and do tethering I suppose.

Light1984 said:
For anyone else curious, the OEM unlock toggle is still available after installing Verizon sim. In case it matters, I started the phone first time with no sim, connected to WiFi, updated to December firmware, added Google account, setup phone, updated apps, setup WiFi hotspot, then installed sim. After reboot, my wife could connect to my hotspot but could not get internet access. But OEM unlock is good to go with this method. So I'll have to root and do tethering I suppose.
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Thanks for the confirmation. I'm not surprised at any of it, however. This all has been known for some time. Glad you did the right thing for yourself.

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Non-Verizon Branded Nexus 6 on Verizon Network - Need startup help

I need to know the do's and don'ts with adding a non-Verizon branded Nexus 6 to the Verizon network. For example, I read that dialing *228 with Verizon will disable some features on the phone.
1. I purchased the Nexus 6 64gb through the Google Playstore and plan to activate it through Verizon. What are the do's and don't of getting the phone operational?
2. What are the do's and don't after getting the phone operational?
3. Screen burning looks to be a concern. Is there any screen break-in procedure to help prevent screen burning?
Are there any threads out there that have all of this information in one place? Similar to the rooting thread found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481
Thanks in advance for the help.
I just stuck the sim card in and booted up. Next went to the Verizon site and activated Advanced Calling. Then did the following...
"In order to enable the setting on your phone, head into the dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#*. When you hit that last *, your phone will jump into the hidden settings menu. Choose “Phone info” and then scroll down until you see an option for “TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG.” Tap that and then reboot your phone (I had to reboot twice for some reason to get it to work). Once booted, head into your phone’s regular settings menu, tap on “More” under “Wireless & networks,” then “Cellular networks.” You should now see an option for “Enhanced 4G LTE Mode” and it should be toggled on."
It was already provisioned evidently from activating on Verizon. It'll say TURN OFF if you're already provisioned. While I was in the "Cellular Networks" settings I changed Preferred Network Type from Global to LTE/CDMA. Then unlocked the bootloader,rooted with The Nexus Toolkit(because I'm getting lazy) and then flashed a 5.1 rom. You may (or not) want to leave your bootloader unlocked according to this thread. I don't know ,I haven't read the whole thing and wasn't planning on re-locking anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
Tag cause mine arrives tomorrow. Same deal.
I traded for an at&t n6 popped my Verizon Sim in and everythings been smooth, it was already rooted and boot loader unlocked, I've installed twrp. My question is, are there any Roms I shouldn't flash, or are all Roms for the n6 game?
eric082684 said:
I traded for an at&t n6 popped my Verizon Sim in and everythings been smooth, it was already rooted and boot loader unlocked, I've installed twrp. My question is, are there any Roms I shouldn't flash, or are all Roms for the n6 game?
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They're all good. Only differences are carrier branding.
thex2 said:
I read that dialing *228 with Verizon will disable some features on the phone.
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*228 is not how you activate a 4G LTE phone on Verizon - that is only for 3G and basic phones.
thex2 said:
1. I purchased the Nexus 6 64gb through the Google Playstore and plan to activate it through Verizon. What are the do's and don't of getting the phone operational?
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Call Verizon and tell them you are buying a used Moto X for your line and get them to mail you a nano SIM card.
Then when you get the N6, call Verizon tech support and ask that they put your new N6's IMEI on the whitelist - they need to fill out a form to do that. Call back the next day and have them activate the SIM card they sent you in the N6.
If they can great, if not, then wait another day and see if the request to whitelist the IMEI goes through. If not, then you need to get an IMEI of a Verizon branded phone to get the SIM card active on your line.
What phone is on your line now?
Then after you get the N6 active on your line, you need to get HD voice active on the line.
Sweet, also, I had already activated advance calling on my note edge, will I have go back and reactivate it? I just went into the hidden menu and I don't see the "turn on volte
Norwester said:
I just stuck the sim card in and booted up. Next went to the Verizon site and activated Advanced Calling. Then did the following...
"In order to enable the setting on your phone, head into the dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#*. When you hit that last *, your phone will jump into the hidden settings menu. Choose “Phone info” and then scroll down until you see an option for “TURN ON VOLTE PROVISIONED FLAG.” Tap that and then reboot your phone (I had to reboot twice for some reason to get it to work). Once booted, head into your phone’s regular settings menu, tap on “More” under “Wireless & networks,” then “Cellular networks.” You should now see an option for “Enhanced 4G LTE Mode” and it should be toggled on."
It was already provisioned evidently from activating on Verizon. It'll say TURN OFF if you're already provisioned. While I was in the "Cellular Networks" settings I changed Preferred Network Type from Global to LTE/CDMA. Then unlocked the bootloader,rooted with The Nexus Toolkit(because I'm getting lazy) and then flashed a 5.1 rom. You may (or not) want to leave your bootloader unlocked according to this thread. I don't know ,I haven't read the whole thing and wasn't planning on re-locking anyway.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/relock-bootloader-time-updating-to-5-1-t3053497
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Great info man. Thanks for the reply.
JulesJam said:
*228 is not how you activate a 4G LTE phone on Verizon - that is only for 3G and basic phones.
Call Verizon and tell them you are buying a used Moto X for your line and get them to mail you a nano SIM card.
Then when you get the N6, call Verizon tech support and ask that they put your new N6's IMEI on the whitelist - they need to fill out a form to do that. Call back the next day and have them activate the SIM card they sent you in the N6.
If they can great, if not, then wait another day and see if the request to whitelist the IMEI goes through. If not, then you need to get an IMEI of a Verizon branded phone to get the SIM card active on your line.
What phone is on your line now?
Then after you get the N6 active on your line, you need to get HD voice active on the line.
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Thanks for the reply. Great info here.
I called Verizon yesterday and told them that I needed a nano SIM for my Nexus 6. They over nighted one to me and I'll have it today. Was this a mistake? Do I need to call back and tell them I need one for the Moto X? And if not, does that mean I don't need to request the IMEI whitelist?
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the phone that's currently on my line.
I went to the Verizon store handed them my Google phone and they made it work. Maybe I was lucky I don't know.
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JulesJam said:
*228 is not how you activate a 4G LTE phone on Verizon - that is only for 3G and basic phones.
Call Verizon and tell them you are buying a used Moto X for your line and get them to mail you a nano SIM card.
Then when you get the N6, call Verizon tech support and ask that they put your new N6's IMEI on the whitelist - they need to fill out a form to do that. Call back the next day and have them activate the SIM card they sent you in the N6.
If they can great, if not, then wait another day and see if the request to whitelist the IMEI goes through. If not, then you need to get an IMEI of a Verizon branded phone to get the SIM card active on your line.
What phone is on your line now?
Then after you get the N6 active on your line, you need to get HD voice active on the line.
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I didn't call Verizon for anything. Just cut my sim card down from my S4 and inserted it and booted up. Done.
thex2 said:
I called Verizon yesterday and told them that I needed a nano SIM for my Nexus 6. They over nighted one to me and I'll have it today. Was this a mistake? Do I need to call back and tell them I need one for the Moto X?
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That's fine. But it won't be active when you get it - you will still have to get it activated. You need to request that your N6 IMEI get on the whitelist - ask tech support to fill out the form and submit it.
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My Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the phone that's currently on my line.
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OK, well that uses a micro SIM card so you can't use it to get the nano SIM activated. But hopefully they can get your N6 IMEI on the whitelist.
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marsdiamond said:
I didn't call Verizon for anything. Just cut my sim card down from my S4 and inserted it and booted up. Done.
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Right, but what does it show when you log onto your account? And did you get HD Voice enabled?
marsdiamond said:
I didn't call Verizon for anything. Just cut my sim card down from my S4 and inserted it and booted up. Done.
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I have a question. So what happens if you would want to sell the S4? (Currently in that situation) will the person that buys it have trouble activating it?
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Right, but what does it show when you log onto your account? And did you get HD Voice enabled?
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I'd be curious to know this as well. Is it listed as a "Non VZW Device"? Or does it show as a Nexus 6? I called 2 different CS reps, and they all told me it is no problem to activate a device from Google Play Store. Same response from a corporate Verizon Store. Further more, I asked about the $25/month discount sticking and he says the discount is subject to your contract. Not your device on the plan. As long as your device is not on EDGE, and you're not on contract, you are entitled to the $25 monthly discount.
I purchased a sim cutter, and I'm jsut up in the air whether to get a 64GB from the playstore, or just buy from Verizon.
SkiRacer2144 said:
I asked about the $25/month discount sticking and he says the discount is subject to your contract. Not your device on the plan. As long as your device is not on EDGE, and you're not on contract, you are entitled to the $25 monthly discount.
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Yes, you are entitled to it, that is not the issue. The issue is that if the system shows a non-Verizon device on the line, the discount hasn't been sticking through to the next billing cycle and people have had to call to get it readded each month. YMMV.
SkiRacer2144 said:
I purchased a sim cutter, and I'm jsut up in the air whether to get a 64GB from the playstore, or just buy from Verizon.
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That just depends on how important 64GB vs. 32GB is to you.
itzleo94 said:
I have a question. So what happens if you would want to sell the S4? (Currently in that situation) will the person that buys it have trouble activating it?
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The sim card is tied to your account so you wouldn't want to include it in a sale anyway. The buyer needs to pick up a new card and have it activated.
Thank you!...I just always remember putting in the IMIE on Verizon so I thought the device was tied to the account as well but thank you for the clarification.
thex2 said:
Great info man. Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the reply. Great info here.
I called Verizon yesterday and told them that I needed a nano SIM for my Nexus 6. They over nighted one to me and I'll have it today. Was this a mistake? Do I need to call back and tell them I need one for the Moto X? And if not, does that mean I don't need to request the IMEI whitelist?
My Verizon Galaxy Nexus is the phone that's currently on my line.
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Just get some scissors and cut your old sim down to fit. Really easy. You can download a guide to use. Why pay for an extra sim when the one you have will work just fine.
marsdiamond said:
Just get some scissors and cut your old sim down to fit. Really easy. You can download a guide to use. Why pay for an extra sim when the one you have will work just fine.
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Verizon gives you SIM cards for free and lots of people mess up their SIM cards when they cut them down.
You only have to pay for a SIM card at a VAR.
JulesJam said:
Verizon gives you SIM cards for free and lots of people mess up their SIM cards when they cut them down.
You only have to pay for a SIM card at a VAR.
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^this. Verizon overnighted the card to me for free. I didn't want to risk cutting the old one and then being without a phone. It's a business phone, so I can't afford to go without it.
JulesJam said:
Right now on ebay there is someone who is selling a Verizon Moto X 2014 and they have a picture of the box with the IMEI on it. You can use that to get your nano SIM card activated.
People really shouldn't post pics of their IMEIs like that, but they do.
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You do realize u just told someone to do something illegal.

[Q] Calls Immediately end On TMobile Nexus 6 flashed with VZW stock image

Good Morning Group,
I have VZW service. The Nexus 6 is from TMobile. In my infinite wisdom or rather the lack their off. I decided that I was over not having data while talking. I downloaded the VZW LMY47E image and followed the instructions found in the Nexus 6 general sticky roll up. How to flash factory images.
The short method did not work but the long method did. I rooted it and added TWRP recovery. Apart from that I left it stock.
I dialed *#*#4636#*#*. and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. Then I checked for enhanced 4G under phone settings and it was enabled.
Awesome right....Wrong. I decided to test it. All calls immediately end after starting them flashing 00:00 time stamp. I decided to pull my sim and put it back into my S4 and dial *228 option 1 and I can make calls using my sim. Something must have went wrong.
What that is I have no clue.
I was thinking of flashing the 5.1 TMobile image but everything that I have read suggest that if you are on VZW you should use LMY47E.
As you can imagine not having phone service kicks rocks. I figured Id ask before flashing and or making anything else worse.
Thanks in advance.
*228 should never be done on an lte device.
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akellar said:
*228 should never be done on an lte device.
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Now I know. Did I harm anything? I also booted into recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache partition. To no avail...
onyxbfly said:
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Now I know. Did I harm anything? I also booted into recovery and wipe data/factory reset and wipe cache partition. To no avail...
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Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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onyxbfly said:
I was thinking of flashing the 5.1 TMobile image but everything that I have read suggest that if you are on VZW you should use LMY47E.
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Flashing another factory image will do nothing to help your problem.
I agree with the above suggestion of starting with a replacement SIM.
And whatever you do, DO NOT TRY RELOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER. It will not help, and you may brick your device, unless you follow @Evolution_Freak 's guide.
akellar said:
Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them? Even if the sim was locked into 3g shouldn't I be able to make calls?
Edit: I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls
onyxbfly said:
FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them? Even if the sim was locked into 3g shouldn't I be able to make calls?
Edit: I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls
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Turn off volte and try. Either way, get a new sim
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onyxbfly said:
FML will they give me a new sim for a phone that did not come from them?
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No they won't if you tell them it's for your N6. You'll have to tell them it's for a "legitimate" VZW phone.
akellar said:
Typically provisions the sim to 3g prl. Likely need a new sim.
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cam30era said:
Flashing another factory image will do nothing to help your problem.
I agree with the above suggestion of starting with a replacement SIM.
And whatever you do, DO NOT TRY RELOCKING YOUR BOOTLOADER. It will not help, and you may brick your device, unless you follow @Evolution_Freak 's guide.
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I put my sim back into my S4 and it displays 3G like you said. I can make calls on the S4 but no on my Nexus 6. I put the sim back into my nexus 6 and it displays LTE but I can not make calls .
So basically you are saying just go to a Verizon store and ask for a new nano sim and ask them to activate it? Or do you suggest asking for a sim for my S4 and cutting it down to size again?
akellar said:
Turn off volte and try. Either way, get a new sim
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When I dial *#*#4636#*#* my phone looks at me like Essentially I cant access that menu any more since its not dialing. I have data and it just backed up my apps from the play store.
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No they won't if you tell them it's for your N6. You'll have to tell them it's for a "legitimate" VZW phone.
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Thanks for the suggestions. I'll try to sort it out.
I decided to try reflashing the LMY47E image again. After doing so I was able to get 3G and make and receive calls. I went to VZW and they gave me bloody hell about getting a replacement sim.
Essentially they were not having it. They wanted to see the physical phone that the card would be activated in. I went back to my car and gave them my S4. To make a long story short they gave me a VZW sim for my S4. Got back home and cut the micro down to nano. I now have LTE service.
But I do not have VOLTE. I dialed *#*#4636#*#* and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. I have enhanced 4g calling under phone options. But I can not browse a web page or talk on the on the phone while using GPS etc. Is VOLTE supposed to be turned on or off.
With it off I do not get the enhanced 4g calling options. With it on I do get enhanced 4g. Either way it doesn't work lol. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'm just happy to be up and running again.
Thanks once again for your time and patience with my N6!!!!!!!!
onyxbfly said:
I decided to try reflashing the LMY47E image again. After doing so I was able to get 3G and make and receive calls. I went to VZW and they gave me bloody hell about getting a replacement sim.
Essentially they were not having it. They wanted to see the physical phone that the card would be activated in. I went back to my car and gave them my S4. To make a long story short they gave me a VZW sim for my S4. Got back home and cut the micro down to nano. I now have LTE service.
But I do not have VOLTE. I dialed *#*#4636#*#* and turned off VOLTE provisioning flag. I have enhanced 4g calling under phone options. But I can not browse a web page or talk on the on the phone while using GPS etc. Is VOLTE supposed to be turned on or off.
With it off I do not get the enhanced 4g calling options. With it on I do get enhanced 4g. Either way it doesn't work lol. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
I'm just happy to be up and running again.
Thanks once again for your time and patience with my N6!!!!!!!!
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Do you have advanced calling activated on your account? I don't believe that the S4 has advanced calling. You may have to put your sim card into a VZW device that requires it and then have them activate the feature.
Yea.... Did you ever activate the service on your account. You need to login in the website or call and turn the feature on. Dialing weird numbers and turning flags on in your phone won't do jack until the service is turned on within verizon.
slimc84 said:
Do you have advanced calling activated on your account? I don't believe that the S4 has advanced calling. You may have to put your sim card into a VZW device that requires it and then have them activate the feature.
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I never had a problem with using data while talking on the phone with my S4. Regardless if it was the stock rom or not.
dansan382 said:
Yea.... Did you ever activate the service on your account. You need to login in the website or call and turn the feature on. Dialing weird numbers and turning flags on in your phone won't do jack until the service is turned on within verizon.
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Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
onyxbfly said:
Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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i can pretty much say thats your problem. it isn't turned on by default so it needs to be turned on. no amount of flashing software or hitting buttons on your phone will help. I think you can even call the 611 number and when it gets to the voice prompts just say advanced calling one point zero. it should try to turn the feature on within that line.
onyxbfly said:
I never had a problem with using data while talking on the phone with my S4. Regardless if it was the stock rom or not.
Unfortunately I am a member of a family plan. I will speak to my cousin who is the account owner and ask him to double to check and see if it has been advanced calling and HD calling has been enabled on my account.
Thanks for the suggestions.
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The S4 had dual antennas so there was no need for the Advanced Calling feature. The Nexus only has a single antenna and requires Advanced Calling to be enabled on the account and the device in order for it to work.
dansan382 said:
i can pretty much say thats your problem. it isn't turned on by default so it needs to be turned on. no amount of flashing software or hitting buttons on your phone will help. I think you can even call the 611 number and when it gets to the voice prompts just say advanced calling one point zero. it should try to turn the feature on within that line.
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Thanks for the number. The CS Rep said they can not make any change to the account because I dont have the password or pin.
Ironically one of the main reasons for getting a new phone was that my S4 wanted to power off randomly and it would be a chore just to get it to power back on and stay on. This time it would not turn at all so I was forced to call from my old thunderbolt.
I called the number you gave me while surfing the web on the phone. The CS Rep said that any 4G / LTE phone can use data over voice except for iphone due to their antenna construction. I guess its true I was just doing it.
But anyway it really shouldn't be a process just to get data while talking on the phone with the nexus.
The phone they have listed for my account is a S4. They said advanced calling and HD calling will be available for the S4 when they provide a software update. He had no clue to when the update would be released.
Just for Sh1t and giggles I inquired with the CS res in regards to purchasing a phone from google and using it. He said that I could go to a Verizon store and they would add it and give me a nano sim. I just thanked him for his time. I guess thats true right until you walk in their with it.
My nexus is from TMobile and from what I read people across various forums are having issues with getting their Nexus 6 added to their account regardless of where it came from.
Seems like verizon is really working hard to make the nexus 6 experience a pain in the ass. I dont need or want HD calling. Is asking to talk and look up something on the web or use gps to much to ask for....
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Thanks for the number. The CS Rep said they can not make any change to the account because I dont have the password or pin.
Ironically one of the main reasons for getting a new phone was that my S4 wanted to power off randomly and it would be a chore just to get it to power back on and stay on. This time it would not turn at all so I was forced to call from my old thunderbolt.
I called the number you gave me while surfing the web on the phone. The CS Rep said that any 4G / LTE phone can use data over voice except for iphone due to their antenna construction. I guess its true I was just doing it.
But anyway it really shouldn't be a process just to get data while talking on the phone with the nexus.
The phone they have listed for my account is a S4. They said advanced calling and HD calling will be available for the S4 when they provide a software update. He had no clue to when the update would be released.
Just for Sh1t and giggles I inquired with the CS res in regards to purchasing a phone from google and using it. He said that I could go to a Verizon store and they would add it and give me a nano sim. I just thanked him for his time. I guess thats true right until you walk in their with it.
My nexus is from TMobile and from what I read people across various forums are having issues with getting their Nexus 6 added to their account regardless of where it came from.
Seems like verizon is really working hard to make the nexus 6 experience a pain in the ass. I dont need or want HD calling. Is asking to talk and look up something on the web or use gps to much to ask for....
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no problem. you dont even need to speak with anyone in order to activate. some people reported just using the prompts, speaking with a machine it was able to turn it on. either way, good luck and glad you got some info.
I literally just got back from best buy with my unbranded unlocked nexus 6. they didnt have any "verizon versions". I will be cutting my sim card thats in my GS4 and throwing it into the nexus so i wont have to deal with verizon. i already had them send me a nano sim so just in case i have a backup. if i completely mess it up, ill go back to verizon and get a new sim for my GS4 and start over again
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The S4 had dual antennas so there was no need for the Advanced Calling feature. The Nexus only has a single antenna and requires Advanced Calling to be enabled on the account and the device in order for it to work.
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Thanks for the clarification. I did not know.
How should I go about this? I called and they said the phone that is listed is a S4. Currently advanced calling is not enabled for the S4. They said I would need to do a phone swap and or sim swap for a newer phone. If the phone is not listed on my account/ number what do I tell ask or tell them so they will enable it?
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no problem. you dont even need to speak with anyone in order to activate. some people reported just using the prompts, speaking with a machine it was able to turn it on. either way, good luck and glad you got some info.
I literally just got back from best buy with my unbranded unlocked nexus 6. they didnt have any "verizon versions". I will be cutting my sim card thats in my GS4 and throwing it into the nexus so i wont have to deal with verizon. i already had them send me a nano sim so just in case i have a backup. if i completely mess it up, ill go back to verizon and get a new sim for my GS4 and start over again
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It works fresh out the box. Mine did and it was from TMobile. I didn't do factory resets or anything insert sim and load up my apps and enjoyed.
I used a sim card cutter that I got from Amazon. Cut it popped it in and everything was lovely. I didn't notice that I couldn't talk and use gps until i was actually driving. The sim cutter is a good investment because it comes with sim card adapters that will allow you to use your sim in any phone.
I wonder how the people got it activated using the prompts. Did they call from their nexus or their old verizon phone?
The only reason I decided to flash the LMY47E rom is to get data over voice. Hopefully I will get this sorted out sooner than later.

Can I install stock AT&T ROM on an unlocked S10 from Samsung

I just got my new unlocked S10 all set up dialed in. Model SMG973U1ZBAX.
I put in my AT&T SIM card in and went to turn on Wifi calling and couldn't find it. I've since learned that if you have an unlocked phone, you can USE the AT&T network, but you can't get Wifi calling (which is a must for me), Visual Voicemail or HD Voice.
Instead of flat out returning it, can I just flash the AT&T ROM and it would be as if it was a a stock AT&T phone?
I know I would get all the bloatware and stuff like that, But I have to have wifi calling.
Are there links yet to Stock AT&T ROM for the S10? I couldn't find any on the site.
Thanks
djrecon said:
I just got my new unlocked S10 all set up dialed in. Model SMG973U1ZBAX.
I put in my AT&T SIM card in and went to turn on Wifi calling and couldn't find it. I've since learned that if you have an unlocked phone, you can USE the AT&T network, but you can't get Wifi calling (which is a must for me), Visual Voicemail or HD Voice.
Instead of flat out returning it, can I just flash the AT&T ROM and it would be as if it was a a stock AT&T phone?
I know I would get all the bloatware and stuff like that, But I have to have wifi calling.
Are there links yet to Stock AT&T ROM for the S10? I couldn't find any on the site.
Thanks
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Yes you can there's a thread somewhere in here with specifics on how to do it. I know you have to flash thru patched Odin and make sure you also flash userdata and csc to corresponding carrier.
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Yes you can there's a thread somewhere in here with specifics on how to do it. I know you have to flash thru patched Odin and make sure you also flash userdata and csc to corresponding carrier.
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That's great news! Thanks. And I wouldn't have to root, right?
Does anyone know where the stock AT&T S10 ROM is? My searches are coming up empty. Or is "AT&T ROM" the wrong search words?
djrecon said:
That's great news! Thanks. And I wouldn't have to root, right?
Does anyone know where the stock AT&T S10 ROM is? My searches are coming up empty. Or is "AT&T ROM" the wrong search words?
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Root is unrelated to firmware flashing. You only need Odin and the fw package. Your computer may, or may not need the Samsung USB drivers to be recognized.
Samfirm can be used to pull updates. You might find it on sammobile or updato, haven't checked.
djrecon said:
That's great news! Thanks. And I wouldn't have to root, right?
Does anyone know where the stock AT&T S10 ROM is? My searches are coming up empty. Or is "AT&T ROM" the wrong search words?
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You should look for the G973U firmware. Thread is located HERE
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Yes you can there's a thread somewhere in here with specifics on how to do it. I know you have to flash thru patched Odin and make sure you also flash userdata and csc to corresponding carrier.
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Sigh. Well. I can report and confirm that you can not use Wifi calling on the AT&T network with an unlocked S10.
Even though I loaded stock AT&T firmware, and was up to date, it just won't work. Gotta return the phone.
I've been dealing with their advanced tech team for over a week and they said that because the IMEI number shows it's an unlocked phone, the system keeps denying Wifi calling.
We actually got it to work at one point. It was a 3 day process with one of their techs forcing my IMEI number through their system. It worked for about an hour, then their system caught it and kicked out it's provisioning.
djrecon said:
Sigh. Well. I can report and confirm that you can not use Wifi calling on the AT&T network with an unlocked S10.
Even though I loaded stock AT&T firmware, and was up to date, it just won't work. Gotta return the phone.
I've been dealing with their advanced tech team for over a week and they said that because the IMEI number shows it's an unlocked phone, the system keeps denying Wifi calling.
We actually got it to work at one point. It was a 3 day process with one of their techs forcing my IMEI number through their system. It worked for about an hour, then their system caught it and kicked out it's provisioning.
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I have it on my phone
The wifi calling but I had to get a whole new sim at the store I have provided a screen shot.
jaestreetss said:
I have it on my phone
The wifi calling but I had to get a whole new sim at the store I have provided a screen shot.
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Oh wow. That's great! I tried the new SIM, same results unfortunately.
Maybe it's just the network out here in LA.
Galaxy S10 unlocked ATT firmware question
Hi I recently got Galaxy S10 Unlocked phone on online. At first i didnt get ATT wifi calling options appeared in my phone. Later i followed same thread that has 973U ATT firmware links, and flashed using ODIN. I can see all ATT apps and ATT wifi calling option now but i cannot enable it. When i enable it i got a message saying we cannot turn on WIFI calling on this a device and error code EDS0008. I tried to call ATT folks, but they are saying WIFI calling and HD voice is not supported on this unlocked device. Somehow they are seeing 973U1 as model number, but i had 973U as model number. I tried chaining sim to old iphone and I saw WIFI calling is working with IPHONE, but its just this phone I am seeing error. I am not sure what to do now. Did you see this issue ?
Can you give me exactly about the files you used and post steps to get att wifi calling ?
sorry for posting questions in multiple threads
I have an unlocked S10e and I use T-Mobile and before even flashing T-Mo firmware, I did have WiFi calling out of the box. Change carrier
avireddy1 said:
Hi I recently got Galaxy S10 Unlocked phone on online. At first i didnt get ATT wifi calling options appeared in my phone. Later i followed same thread that has 973U ATT firmware links, and flashed using ODIN. I can see all ATT apps and ATT wifi calling option now but i cannot enable it. When i enable it i got a message saying we cannot turn on WIFI calling on this a device and error code EDS0008. I tried to call ATT folks, but they are saying WIFI calling and HD voice is not supported on this unlocked device. Somehow they are seeing 973U1 as model number, but i had 973U as model number. I tried chaining sim to old iphone and I saw WIFI calling is working with IPHONE, but its just this phone I am seeing error. I am not sure what to do now. Did you see this issue ?
Can you give me exactly about the files you used and post steps to get att wifi calling ?
sorry for posting questions in multiple threads
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Your best bet is to do an exchange for an AT&T version.
You can Flash the AT&T firmware. But there will be no way in h*** for you to actually enable the Wi-Fi calling feature since they block those IMEI numbers on their servers. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO REVERT IT BACK TO THE OTHER FIRMWARE.
monkeydroiid said:
your best bet is to do an exchange for an at&t version.
You can flash the at&t firmware. But there will be no way in h*** for you to actually enable the wi-fi calling feature since they block those imei numbers on their servers. You have been warned. You might not be able to revert it back to the other firmware.
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Quick question for ya:
YOU HAVE BEEN REPLIED TO. WHY CAN'T THEY JUST REFLASH THE PHONE WITH STOCK U1 FIRMWARE?
monkeyDroiid said:
Your best bet is to do an exchange for an AT&T version.
You can Flash the AT&T firmware. But there will be no way in h*** for you to actually enable the Wi-Fi calling feature since they block those IMEI numbers on their servers. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. YOU MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO REVERT IT BACK TO THE OTHER FIRMWARE.
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This is absolutely not true. I just switched my unlocked S10 (u1) to the ATTfirmware and Wifi calling is working great with no issues turning it on at all.
badbread said:
This is absolutely not true. I just switched my unlocked S10 (u1) to the ATTfirmware and Wifi calling is working great with no issues turning it on at all.
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That's great to know badbread. Did you use the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10e-g973u-g973u1-firmware-links-t3905852 for the firmware files.
I haven't attempted this before so I thought I'd ask before screwing anything up.
Thanks.
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That's great to know badbread. Did you use the link https://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-s10/how-to/s10e-g973u-g973u1-firmware-links-t3905852 for the firmware files.
I haven't attempted this before so I thought I'd ask before screwing anything up.
Thanks.
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Yes, that post and a couple others. Pretty painless process TBH.
I can confirm Wifi calling works, HD voice and a WAY WAY WAY better signal. Prior to flashing to ATT I could barely use my phone on my subway ride home... Now it works very well the entire trip.
badbread said:
Yes, that post and a couple others. Pretty painless process TBH.
I can confirm Wifi calling works, HD voice and a WAY WAY WAY better signal. Prior to flashing to ATT I could barely use my phone on my subway ride home... Now it works very well the entire trip.
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I successfully flashed and am now seeing the ATT bloatware but WIFI calling and visual voicemail, etc are saying "OOPS! We can't turn onWi-Fi calling for your account. I'm going to attempt to flash with the clean boot version and see if that changes anything. Did you do anything different or additional to get it up and running. Not sure if it matters but I'm in Southern CA.
Has anyone else been successful in adding wifi calling, hd voice, etc?
I'm using build G973U SF6 with USERDATA_ATT_G973USQU2ASF6.
I'm on a US Unlocked Galaxy 10.
mamartin9 said:
I successfully flashed and am now seeing the ATT bloatware but WIFI calling and visual voicemail, etc are saying "OOPS! We can't turn onWi-Fi calling for your account. I'm going to attempt to flash with the clean boot version and see if that changes anything. Did you do anything different or additional to get it up and running. Not sure if it matters but I'm in Southern CA.
Has anyone else been successful in adding wifi calling, hd voice, etc?
I'm using build G973U SF6 with USERDATA_ATT_G973USQU2ASF6.
I'm on a US Unlocked Galaxy 10.
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I'm away from the computer I did it on but I used the SAT1 firmware file and then manually updated all the way back up to the June update.
The updating part is/was a major PITA as it wiped the device each time. I'm hoping i'll get OTA's when they are released. Time will tell.
I'm in the Bay Area on ATT and it activated right away on the base february firmware I installed initially. Also I don't think I did any userdata stuff as I don't remember choosing it... I'll update this post tonight when I can check all the files I d/loaded on my machine at home.
Couple other things:
I can't find it right now but I followed a post that stated to make sure the SIM and SD card were removed during the flashing process. Not sure if that makes a difference.
badbread said:
Yes, that post and a couple others. Pretty painless process TBH.
I can confirm Wifi calling works, HD voice and a WAY WAY WAY better signal. Prior to flashing to ATT I could barely use my phone on my subway ride home... Now it works very well the entire trip.
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did you ever run the unlocked firmware on ATT or did you flash to att before ever using an active sim? i had heard some speculation that once you run an unlocked phone, then it gets registered as "non att"... keep in mind this is 3rd hand info and hearsay.
edit. i guess i failed to read you short post... i see "prior to flashing" spelled out for me right there....
badbread said:
I'm away from the computer I did it on but I used the SAT1 firmware file and then manually updated all the way back up to the June update.
The updating part is/was a major PITA as it wiped the device each time. I'm hoping i'll get OTA's when they are released. Time will tell.
I'm in the Bay Area on ATT and it activated right away on the base february firmware I installed initially. Also I don't think I did any userdata stuff as I don't remember choosing it... I'll update this post tonight when I can check all the files I d/loaded on my machine at home.
Couple other things:
I can't find it right now but I followed a post that stated to make sure the SIM and SD card were removed during the flashing process. Not sure if that makes a difference.
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Any chance you found those other posts you mentioned above? I continue to be unable to get wifi calling on my phone.
By the way for anyone else, while I did not get wifi calling, visual voicemail, etc. I do see an improvement on my cell reception over the ATT network.
Ops sorry, thought I replied.
Here it is:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=79156802&postcount=5
I followed those steps exactly.

Used to have 'free hotspot.' Is that because my bootloader was unlocked?

Hi guys. My goal is to be able to use my AT&T phone/service as a 'hotspot' again, which I have been able to do with my Note 8, but can't get it to work on my Note 9 now. I'm familiar with the technical stuff (thanks to you guys over the years), but need to have an idea of what will solve my problem. Facts first, then what I think might be the issue...
I've been using a Note 8, which I bought overseas, here in the States with my AT&T account which does NOT have the hotspot feature included. It just works though. I put in my SIM and it all boots up fine (with no ATT branding during boot) and my Note 8 has a hotspot feature, which I turn on and it works just like it's supposed to. No issues at all.
Now, I have an unlocked T-Mobile Note 9 that I want to use instead of the Note 8 I bought overseas. When I put ANY US carrier SIM in it, it forces a reboot, and when it boots up it shows whichever carrier's SIM I put in it. If I put a Verizon SIM in it, it reboots and starts showing the Verizon logo during boot, and the same with ATT, etc.
I don't mind that, HOWEVER, now when I try to use the hotspot feature, I get a warning saying something like 'your plan doesn't have the hotspot feature. Please go to to our website to choose a plan that does' and the hotspot feature is blocked completely.
Is it blocked on this unlocked T-Mobile Note 9 because it installs any SIM's bootloader each time or something? I am assuming that allows/forces the carriers to install all their own stuff each time I put a new SIM card in it, which would allow them to also block the hotspot feature on my ATT account, since it's not included in my plan.
If this is the case, is there a way to 'fix' this? I know it's unlocked because it works with other carriers, but I'm thinking maybe the bootloader is locked or something, and if I'm able to unlock it I could put a new OEM flash on it, and maybe it would work just like my unlocked Note 8 that I bought overseas which allows the hotspot feature.
Please advise, if you have any ideas for me. (Unlocked T-Mobile Note 9 SM-N960U)
I would hazzard a guess AT&T is blocking you. I have mobile hotspot in my plan and it works fine on my note9.
You need to flash the u1 firmware for hotspot to work.
Thanks for the help. I'll update this later if it still doesn't work after flashing.
sethsmaxx said:
You need to flash the u1 firmware for hotspot to work.
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^^^^ this, all day, er'ry day ^^^^
DanDroidian said:
Thanks for the help. I'll update this later if it still doesn't work after flashing.
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youll need the patched version of Odin to flash cross carrier firmware. Not a biggie, just know that regular Odin will fail. Not might, will.

GrapeneOS Compatibility?

Hello,
Does anyone know if there are versions of the Google Pixel 5 that have locked bootloaders? For example on the Galaxy S10e Snapdragon model you can't enable OEM unlocking with a certain bootloader version, however on the Exynos version this isn't as much of an issue. Are there specific updates on the Google Pixel that may prevent you from using GrapheneOS? If I get a Google Pixel I want to ensure it will be compatible with GrapheneOS.
Thanks!
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
andybones said:
Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
Skyty said:
I'm assuming you're American? I don't live in the USA so that shouldn't be a problem. If I go to a carrier in my country I'll see if they will let me handle the phone before buying it. I'd check to see if the OEM can be unlocked. Is there anything I should test or look at on the phone to determine compatibility?
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I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
andybones said:
I am, sadly.
May I ask why not just buy the unlocked variant? I use it here in the US, and it seems to not be hardware specific. When I bought the Pixel 5 I was on Verizon, and switched recently to AT&T, and all it took was swapping of the sim card and all is working fine.
Are other carriers cheaper?
And If I am understanding correctly, as long as you can get into those dev settings and verify "OEM unlocking" is there and working, you are set. But, don't fall back on just my limited knowledge, as I don't really know outside the US, and as far as Pixels are concerned, once its bootloader is unlocked, nothing will be locking it down, like on Samsung. Sans strange cases like paying to unlock the bootloader of a locked down carrier variant, which I haven't come across on the Pixel 5.
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And here we come full circle once again. The problem is that unlocked does not mean bootloader unlockable which I know you know but others might not. GrapheneOS needs to have an unlocked bootloader or it will not install. I don't know how a buyer can get a business to boot into the OS in order to see if the OEM switch is active. But as you state that is really the only way to tell. @Skyty which carrier are you using? I don't know how you will get that guarantee that you can unlock the bootloader but that is really what you need to do if you can't handle the phone.
In the case of Pixels, the unlocked version has the added bonus of having an unlockable bootloader, Google doesn't seem to play the games that Samsung does. They're both carrier unlocked and don't have the bootloader super locked down.
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Verizon is locked. Keep away from Verizon variants for basically any device if you want it to have bootloader unlocking. AT&T also I believe. Unlocked variant is usually the way to go.
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People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Correct me if I'm wrong but in my post I did say "usually" the way to go.
And, just to state, I had no issues with VoLTE on my rooted, unlocked variant P5 on Verizon, nor At&T, VoWIFI works also.. what am I doing special? Just curious. Here I am on a call using VoLTE.
Also, if they are creating VoLTE Magisk modules for China and more. This is the first complaint I've read about this issue. My HTC 10 was also an unlocked variant on Verizon with VoLTE, Wi-Fi Calling and preferred options were the same as my brother stock un-rooted Verizon variant. So, I'm lost. Sorry.
Schroeder09 said:
People that say "don't buy the Verizon model" never tell you that the unlocked Google version of the pixels brought to the Verizon network will NOT be VoLTE and preferred/default wifi calling options. There is NO root solution to this limitation that works.
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Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
bobby janow said:
Can you please explain this statement? I don't use wifi calling but I'm willing to test out your theories. I have an unlocked Google P5 and I'm on the Verizon network.
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When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
Schroeder09 said:
When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
bobby janow said:
I've read this about 5 times already and I still have no idea what you are talking about. I don't really use wifi calling but I'd be willing to test your theory. Walk me through the steps and tell me what I'm looking for. Wait maybe the 6th time is the charm. So if I turn on wifi calling on my phone now in a very good network setting you are saying that it will not use wifi until the network drops out right? How can I test that?
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Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
Schroeder09 said:
When you buy the Google bootloader unlocked phones and being them to Verizon they do NOT have all the locked down Verizon version phone capabilities. On a pixel with a locked bootloader purchased from vzw you will have options in your settings to enable VoLTE services AND to enable Wi-Fi calling by default meaning whenever you're on wifi the phone will default to making calls over wifi as opposed to a network. This is useful of you have poor reception in your house or place of work.
Without it the phone will only use wifi to make calls when the network is very, very poor, and it still will only use wifi sporadically. It will switch to the wifi network AFTER the call starts sometimes. This will cause momentary dead air where you miss words and may think you dropped the call. It's a total PITA. There are supposed fixes and options you can toggle in the phone app by dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app. None of these options work. There are 3 guys in the world who have had success with these options and work arounds, and I'm sure they'll chime in here to encourage you to spend $1200 on a p6 or $600+ on a p5 because you'll **probably** be able to get these functions working. If you need or greatly prefer VoLTE and/or wifi calling know that you probably will NOT be the 4th guy in history to have success with these work arounds.
I do not care about VoLTE at all. I have never had it, but I guess it's super clear voice AND it's only available in a (growing) list of big cities. Who cares about SUPER clear voice? How often do you even actually use your phone anyway? I DO care about preferred wifi calling as this has a definable, useful function, and I was and still am (4 years later) ticked about not having the ability to have my phone preferably select a wifi network regardless of the signal coming from the cell network.
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I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
andybones said:
Don't bother man, I give ample proof.
The "dialing some crazy number which is actually a code to access options and settings in the phone app" is *#*#4636#*#* FWIW. That's where my 3-4 pictures come from.
He doesn't even use his phone as a phone, but is upset about WIFI calling, so once again, I'm lost, but I won't be replying to anything he has to say. and let's just leave it alone because I don't make fake posts, and don't want to keep going off-topic, for IMO, no reason.
I don't know about you, but I USE my phone primarily as a phone., this is why own a tablet and a small 13" laptop.
And just because I do use my phone and you don't doesn't mean anything, as far as what others use theirs for, you're not to say and neither am I.
I'm up here in the boondocks with hardly ANY service on the weekends, and get crystal clear calling when I am connected to and with Wi-Fi Calling on.
No work-arounds for me, just an unlocked variant P5, rooted and on the stock ROM, now on AT&T, switched the other week.. And all I had to do was swap the SIM cards..
The only thing I suppose I can't fully check (that I'm aware of) is the "SUPER clear voice" preferred calling as IDK if it has a setting to turn on/off such as VoLTE/VoWIFI.
And even so, it's subjective to the person using and listening to the phone.
And I've been using an unlocked variant device on Verizon with "IMS, advanced calling, Wi-Fi calling and all other Verizon features" since the HTC 10!
So, just saying, this isn't exactly new. And I'm certainly not telling anyone to go out and buy anything just because I get these features.
And Bravo to these "3" people. IF they have it working and you don't, it is what it is, I guess, I don't know what to say, other than they aren't breaking any rules by posting about it.
Also, anyone who spends $600-1200 based off someone's single post.. That's on them, bro. You can't control how people spend their $$
And I'm certainly not making this post to try and shill anyone to buy an unlocked variant. Like you don't care about VoLTE, I don't care what phone someone buys.
I think these screenshots speak for themselves.
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^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
Schroeder09 said:
^^^ one of the 3 people who gets this stuff to work.
My point to the question was that this stuff seldom works. No one knows why. It worked for you. Cool. You got lucky. There are plenty of us who never get it work with alllll the root options and magisk modules put there.
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No, I'm not that lucky, believe you me.
And I've let this go on long enough.
Anymore OT on this subject gets deleted.
Thank you.
I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
KaptinBoxxi said:
I sell pixel devices basically for a living that have Graphene/Calyx on them. If its a carrier device and sitll locked to that carrier, the bootloader OEM Unlock option will be forever grayed out until the device is SIM Unlocked.
The Pixel 5 can be Unlocked, Verizon or ATT. ATT and VZW will be locked until sim unlocked
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I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
bobby janow said:
I saw those phones being sold for double the list price of a P5. Is that true? So basically charging a few hundred dollars to install a rom / os that anyone with a semblance of knowledge can do themselves. I'm not sure I have the details correctly so let me know if I'm wrong.
As for the second part of your statement, the VZW P5 cannot be bl unlocked no matter what you do, sim lock or not. I'm not sure about ATT.
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I usually add +40 to +75, unless I have original boxes and accessories. They really do sell for more, and people pay it.
As for the VZW P5, I have a few in my shop office right now that cannot be unlocked and their IMEI reads back as a Verizon phone, double checked by inserting another SIM and comes up locked. VZW Statement on unlocking is "if the phone was paid off (6 months of payments), it will auto unlock" .. so you probably have one that's paid off.
No, I bought the Google version. Even paid up you can't unlock the Verizon version. It's just the way they operate.
Seems like a fair price. This is the article I was talking about. https://9to5google.com/2021/09/05/n...-focused-grapheneos-that-costs-twice-as-much/

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