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No Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 support

TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.

Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.

Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607

In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.

Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?

Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.

I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.

Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.

fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.

I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.

squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?

sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.

tgambitg said:
The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.

Power cable

I've bought a cheap cable for my Huawei P10 (also type C) but it doesn't work on my new OP 5T.
Is this common or rare. If i need an other cable should it be an OP cable then?

Question first: which Charger do you use?
Dash Charger only works with Dash Cable.
Other Cables do fine with normal Chargers like Choetech Anker or Aukey

the sooner one plus just adopt the generic USB_PD or even Qualcomm 4+ the better. DASH is too niche. My QC 4+ Razer Phone charges as quickly as the OP Dash

MazeHei said:
Question first: which Charger do you use?
Dash Charger only works with Dash Cable.
Other Cables do fine with normal Chargers like Choetech Anker or Aukey
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I think it was a Apple plug with usb port ... i was at my work so i have improvise
Dont want to dash charge, only normal charge but that won't work

Will Any QC 4.0 27 watt Charger work with Xiaomi 20 watt Wireless Charger

Hi Guys,
Would really like some clarification on whether you can use any Qualcomm QC 4.0 27 watt wired adaptor with the new Xiaomi 20 watt wireless charger
Will you get the advertised speed ?

Nope, QC3 is up to 18W

klanac8901 said:
Nope, QC3 is up to 18W
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Sorry meant quick charge 4.0 adaptor as I have just purchased a razor adaptor that supports QC4.0

It's easy... Just check V x A..
FE: 9V x 2A = 18W

mulkman said:
Sorry meant quick charge 4.0 adaptor as I have just purchased a razor adaptor that supports QC4.0
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I used a dual port anker 30+18w charger, using the 30w usb PD (type c to type c) plugging in to the wireless charger, it charges the phone really fast. I have no tool to measure, but in my opinion, it's almost as fast as using a 18w wired charger.
But....using 27w wired charger for mi 9 is....even faster .
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Question Type of USB-C charger cable

I want to buy a 6 feet USB-C charger cable for my phone.
Do I have to buy a 5A USB-C (which is harder to find with a USB-A connection).
Reason I ask is because the charger is a 67W charger and on the mi Store, the 67W charger is shipping with a 6A USB-A to USB-C wire.
Kindly advise.

keneth_c said:
I want to buy a 6 feet USB-C charger cable for my phone.
Do I have to buy a 5A USB-C (which is harder to find with a USB-A connection).
Reason I ask is because the charger is a 67W charger and on the mi Store, the 67W charger is shipping with a 6A USB-A to USB-C wire.
Kindly advise.
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As far as I know, the type of cable only effects the throughput that the cable is capable of. So if you use a cable other than the one they are specifying, you would still be able to use it, but it probably won't push 67 watts.

So you're implying a 3A cable should still charge the phone well but might not quick charge?

I bought some 3m corded cables usb a-c and c-c. They were only about £3.69 each with third one free. Dam good cables and run quick and super quick from my Huawei super charge and my Xiaomi 120w charger from 10 ultra. Extreme charging from cheap cables. I was shocked as I didn't think they would work as well as the supplied 10 ultra charging cable

where did you buy it you got a link from the seller

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Heavydut...2349624.m46890.l49286&mkrid=710-127635-2958-0
Works with mi Turbo charge 120w charger 10 ultra and Huawei super charger at full speed.

65W charging cable?

Hello, I bought a Oneplus 8t+5G (tmobile) used off of Ebay, so I'll need to buy the 65W fast charger myself, what I was unclear on was the cable itself. I currently use this cable, (https://a.co/fCB5o9D) the only power rating it lists is 3.1A. If I bought a 65W charging block, would this cable be sufficient to get the most out of the fast charging?
Also feel free to discuss recommendations for 65W charging cables/blocks. Thanks

If you're using an original OnePlus charger with a USB-C to USB-C cable, it doesn't really matter which one you use, it's best if it meets PD 3.0 60-100W requirements and is reasonably solid. I tested 3 different cables of this type: the original one, some unspecified BlitzWolf and BaseUs PD 60W and the WarpCharge 65W charging was identical with each one. It is different if you would like to use an Oppo or Realme charger with USB-A output - in this case only the original cable will probably charge the WarpCharge 65W.
And remember that only a OnePlus charger compatible with WarpCharge 65W (Realme Superdart or Oppo SuperVooc 2.0) will charge 65W. Third party chargers, even if they are 100W, will not comply with this charging standard.