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No Cardock-Mode, no fast charging...

I want to modify my brodit car dock (Note 1) for my Note 2.
The first problem is, that the 619k resistor for tiggering car dock mode with fast charging (AC-Mode) isn´t recognized by the Note 2. Here ist the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275&page=18
Okay, the fast charging-mode only (shown as "AC") can be triggered with pins D+ D- connected. But this isn't working too.
It seems, Samsung want Note 2-owners to buy original accessories only?

Frank2 said:
I want to modify my brodit car dock (Note 1) for my Note 2.
The first problem is, that the 619k resistor for tiggering car dock mode with fast charging (AC-Mode) isn´t recognized by the Note 2. Here ist the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275&page=18
Okay, the fast charging-mode only (shown as "AC") can be triggered with pins D+ D- connected. But this isn't working too.
It seems, Samsung want Note 2-owners to buy original accessories only?
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What's the amperage of the adapter in mAh?

Frank2 said:
I want to modify my brodit car dock (Note 1) for my Note 2.
The first problem is, that the 619k resistor for tiggering car dock mode with fast charging (AC-Mode) isn´t recognized by the Note 2. Here ist the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275&page=18
Okay, the fast charging-mode only (shown as "AC") can be triggered with pins D+ D- connected. But this isn't working too.
It seems, Samsung want Note 2-owners to buy original accessories only?
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FYI, on the S3 in the official jelly bean releases, car dock mode is totally broken, this may be the same for the note. car dock mode not triggered, charging not triggered and audio is not routed out of the car dock.

I have the Samsung Note 1 car dock.
It will charge the Note 2 but it will not put it into car mode. The usb connection is very slight between connected and not connected. It's not a perfect fit.

Frank2 said:
I want to modify my brodit car dock (Note 1) for my Note 2.
The first problem is, that the 619k resistor for tiggering car dock mode with fast charging (AC-Mode) isn´t recognized by the Note 2. Here ist the thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=820275&page=18
Okay, the fast charging-mode only (shown as "AC") can be triggered with pins D+ D- connected. But this isn't working too.
It seems, Samsung want Note 2-owners to buy original accessories only?
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Not exactly what you're asking, but I use Tasker in a similar situation to engage car dock mode. In my case, I'm using BT connection as a trigger (battery life is so good now I dont see the need to cut BT on and off as I did with Note1), instead of charging as a trigger. With Note1 I used charging as a trigger to cut BT on, the BT connection as a trigger for car dock mode (or absence of connection for 60 secs to turn BT back off). Bottom line, Tasker gives a lot more flexibility in creating scenarios than a hardwired solution, and with a lot less effort.

The Perseus kernel was updated recently, with this in its changelog, maybe you should give it a try?
Enabled OTG car dock, smart dock and music dock charging. Alternatively this can be triggered if you short pins 4 and 5 of the USB connector with a 40.2kΩ, 64.9kΩ or 619kΩ resistor.
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Hi hchxoom
That's an excellent idea. Just wondered if you were already doing this or is it just theoretical. Like others, when I use the original note car dock, it will charge but not route the speakers through the dock. I can plug the audio cable in to the headphone socket but that's fiddly and crappy sound. What you are saying is that I can force the audio to be redirected by using tasker to select dock mode?
Thanks
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nijinski said:
Hi hchxoom
That's an excellent idea. Just wondered if you were already doing this or is it just theoretical. Like others, when I use the original note car dock, it will charge but not route the speakers through the dock. I can plug the audio cable in to the headphone socket but that's fiddly and crappy sound. What you are saying is that I can force the audio to be redirected by using tasker to select dock mode?
Thanks
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Doing it now. Set it up a few weeks ago, or rather tweaked my Note1 setup. Still tweak it periodically as I find ways to improve it. I started down the nfc path briefly, and will experiment further, but havent yet found added asvantage.
The biggest difference btw current setup and Note1 setup is due to the phenomenal battery performance on Note2. On Note1 BT and GPS on all the time were killers, so my setup included scripts to turn them on and off, which complicated matters sifnificantly and, in the case of GPS, required root.
Now, I just leave BT and GPS on all the time (well, I also have tasker setup to begin cutting them off if not in use when batt hits 25%, but that is rarely triggered).
So, when I get in the car and turn it on, BT connects automatically. Tasker recognizes that change in connectivity and launches my CarMode actions. In my setting, it looks specifically for the connection with MY vehicle, not just any BT. The actions currently launched include: 1 turn on car mode, 2 turn off wifi (so I dont get offers to connect evry time I drive by McD's), 3 disable my lock screen (after first successful unlock), 4 load Ulysses Speedometer app (my preferred card dock base app), 5 /6/7 turn up BT volume, media volume , and incall volume to max (just in case I ever turned them down). IF charging (meaning I've also put it in my dock) it also disables screen sleep. Then end result of this is that I get my car setup every time I drive, even when I don't dock it... so it can stay in my pocket for a quick trip to the store and still have full features avail.
When the BT connection terminates (car off and exit), Tasker launches my exit actions, including: 1 car mode off, 2 turn on wifi, 3 go to home page of launcher, 4 reset my lockscreen password. I don't have to ask it to terminate the speedo app, bc that functionality is built into the app.
To make the above work (specifically lockscreen disable and reset) I also needed the SecureSettings plugin app.
Hope this helps.

Thanks for the info. I tried it out. Unfortunately just switching on car dock mode doesnt seem to output audio via the dock. All the other stuff seems to work well though. I just hope there is an official note 2 powered car dock in the not too distant future.
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nijinski said:
Thanks for the info. I tried it out. Unfortunately just switching on car dock mode doesnt seem to output audio via the dock. All the other stuff seems to work well though. I just hope there is an official note 2 powered car dock in the not too distant future.
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Worka fine for me via BT, but sounds like you're trying via usb... perhaps they changed the wiring a bit.

nijinski said:
Thanks for the info. I tried it out. Unfortunately just switching on car dock mode doesnt seem to output audio via the dock. All the other stuff seems to work well though. I just hope there is an official note 2 powered car dock in the not too distant future.
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All, we at iBOLT are working on finishing up the car-dock for the Note 2 with a release date around the 4 weeks from now. It will work with all cases too, including Otterbox Defender type. The big challenge is that there is no car-mode and no aux-out through the micro-usb in the latest Jellybean firmware version from Samsung for the Galaxy Note 2. Although anyone can still download and automatically start (using an NFC tag) any of the "vehicle interface" apps from the Google Play store, type applications like CarHome Ultra, it will not work as intended.
Without integrated car-mode support in the Jellybean firmware the "Car Home App" will not default as the new home screen. As a result pressing the "home" button will take the user back to the standard Samsung "home" screen instead of the "Car Home screen" from the app. A core value of car-mode, in our opinion, is that a user should be able to "toogle" between GPS Navigation apps, music players apps, camera, speed camera warning apps etc and any time press the "home" button on the phone and it should take the user back to the "car-home" interface. This is also how it has worked for the past few years and for reasons beyond anybody's understanding (including people working for Samsung) the latest Jellybean firmware does not have the great aux-out and car-mode functionality turned on.
If you want these features, help us out by contacting Samsung telling them to re-active these features in future upgrades.

Without integrated car-mode support in the Jellybean firmware the "Car Home App" will not default as the new home screen. As a result pressing the "home" button will take the user back to the standard Samsung "home" screen instead of the "Car Home screen" from the app. A core value of car-mode, in our opinion, is that a user should be able to "toogle" between GPS Navigation apps, music players apps, camera, speed camera warning apps etc and any time press the "home" button on the phone and it should take the user back to the "car-home" interface. This is also how it has worked for the past few years and for reasons beyond anybody's understanding (including people working for Samsung) the latest Jellybean firmware does not have the great aux-out and car-mode functionality turned on.
If you want these features, help us out by contacting Samsung telling them to re-active these features in future upgrades.
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Is it my understanding that the iBolt Hardware will support aux-out through the micro-usb once the firmware is updated? Also is it known if all firmware versions/ carrier models have this feature disabled?

MikaelPe said:
All, we at iBOLT are working on finishing up the car-dock for the Note 2 with a release date around the 4 weeks from now. It will work with all cases too, including Otterbox Defender type. The big challenge is that there is no car-mode and no aux-out through the micro-usb in the latest Jellybean firmware version from Samsung for the Galaxy Note 2. Although anyone can still download and automatically start (using an NFC tag) any of the "vehicle interface" apps from the Google Play store, type applications like CarHome Ultra, it will not work as intended.
Without integrated car-mode support in the Jellybean firmware the "Car Home App" will not default as the new home screen. As a result pressing the "home" button will take the user back to the standard Samsung "home" screen instead of the "Car Home screen" from the app. A core value of car-mode, in our opinion, is that a user should be able to "toogle" between GPS Navigation apps, music players apps, camera, speed camera warning apps etc and any time press the "home" button on the phone and it should take the user back to the "car-home" interface. This is also how it has worked for the past few years and for reasons beyond anybody's understanding (including people working for Samsung) the latest Jellybean firmware does not have the great aux-out and car-mode functionality turned on.
If you want these features, help us out by contacting Samsung telling them to re-active these features in future upgrades.
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but some people are reporting that USB Audio does work for the note 2?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1891086
or is this via OTG?

HowTo: Wake car mounted Nexus 7 from sleep without power button (2002 Mustang)

I have looked high and low for a way to turn on my Nexus7 without using the power button while it is in sleep mode.
The reason is because i am putting my tablet in my 2002 Mustang GT to replace the stock radio. Once installed , the power, and volume buttons are no longer accessible. I have bought an AMP and use the remote volume knob to adjust the volume. Next my issue was getting the tablet to wake from sleep.
After some serious thinking, i have found a way.
This does not require flashing,hacking, taking the tablet apart to rewire ANYTHING.
What i am going to do is connect the charging cord to a secondary cigarette lighter, then plug in a USB adapter.
On the power side of the secondary cigarette lighter connect a toggle switch. (The secondary cigarette lighter will be hidden behind the tablet)
Mount the cool looking toggle switch somewhere in the car where it is easily accessible.
When you want to wake the table, and or charge it, turn on the toggle switch. (This SHOULD work with any tablet)
You may want to download an app to put the tablet to sleep for when getting out of your car.
If anyone else tries this please let me know how it worked out for you.

LOL
A great solution to a unique problem.
Let's see pics when you are done dash mounting your N7.

I still have to cut out a small piece of the dash to allow room for the charging cable. That will be done tomorrow, along with a better video. I just wanted to show my progress.
Copy and paste link.
youtu.be/1psLH24ZsiE

Here is another video i made during the day, and after it was all mounted.
Copy & Paste.
youtu.be/P89paX9fcYw

Here's a thought, couldn't you just wave a little magnet over the bottom right part of the nexus screen? This should wake it up just as if you were opening a cover.

fangthorn said:
Here's a thought, couldn't you just wave a little magnet over the bottom right part of the nexus screen? This should wake it up just as if you were opening a cover.
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While that is a good idea, that doesn't help with charging.
I personally would want the battery in the tablet to cycle threw its charges instead of always staying connected. (in case i ever wanted to take the tablet out)

Thanks for the videos. Looks like quite the fun project. You did some great work there.

RumoredNow said:
Thanks for the videos. Looks like quite the fun project. You did some great work there.
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Thanks RoumoredNow. Its still a work in progress.
1. Better mounting of the tablet.
2. Add DC 4 port USB hub.
3. Add front and rear cameras.
4. Add 2 Standard USB connections built into the dash. (for passengers to charge there phone or play threw the audio system)
5. Another AMP
6. Replace the stock 8 speakers.
7. Add Sub-woofer.
8. Anything else i may think of, or suggestions i may like.

This is just an update to anyone wanting to mount there tablet in a mustang.
I have found that a simple piece of plywood does the job well. the area to mount a tablet in a mustang (without cutting up the dash) is about the same thickness as the tablet.
So using a piece of plywood, you can screw it to the BACKSIDE of the stereo mounting bracket. A couple of pieces of Velcro added to the plywood and tablet will keep it centered and in place while putting the radio bezel back on.
The Velcro also added cushion and a space filler to snug the tablet up to the radio bezel.
See images.

Just remember that baking a tablet in a car all of the time _will_ destroy the battery, and rather fast. Maybe that's fine. Just warning you.
As for turning the device off. If you have bluetooth in the car or something, you could use Tasker to watch for the BT device. When it goes away, start a timer, maybe 30 minutes or something, then shut down. That way quick runs into the store or it's not powered off/rebooting etc. There are many posts on this exact same subject in this exact sub-forum... Nexus 7 seems to be popular for cooking in vehicles for some reason.
But yes, the "unplug it from the power" solution is always the solution. Using a "pretty" switch is one way to do it. Some cars have lighter ports which are only powered when the car is powered, but I know mine are hot all of the time and a lot of cars these days are.

Use mKernel and a ROM that supports it and you can use the double tap to wake function, works great on my tablet, just tap the screen twice to wake it up.

U can use timur's kernel, And a otg-y cable, so when power unplug nexus go on stand by, And when plug power nexus start.
That rom is created Just for car installation.
Inviato dal mio Nexus 7 utilizzando Tapatalk

**EDIT: The ebay item i bought below does not fit well in the nexus7.
While it does fit, and does charge, it is loose and sometimes gives a bad connection then disables charging. I suggest to NOT buy it for a nexus7.
I just wanted to update that i have got my OTG cable for my nexus7 (2012) and it works great with timur's rom. Here is a link to the 1 i bought from a USA seller.
I have used a 16gig USB stick with it for testing till i get a larger 1.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=111423491796

A couple of things i wanted to point out about having a toggle switch connected to wake my tablet.
PROS:
1st. This will allow you to charge the tablet when your not in your car.
2nd. Your car does NOT have to be running or in accessory mode to charge your tablet.
3rd. Depending on how you wire your amp, you can still listen to music on your tablet when the accessory is off.
4th. You can still use ftp, AirDroid, ES File Explorer, ect.. (As im typing this, i'm transferring over 600 songs to my tablet in the car.)
CONS:
1st. Tablet does not wake when switch is moved to accessory mode. (toggle switch must be pressed)
There may be more cons, but i haven't found any related to my setup yet.
I'll add to this as i run across PROS and CONS.

my sETP N HELP PLEASE
02sonicblue said:
A couple of things i wanted to point out about having a toggle switch connected to wake my tablet.
PROS:
1st. This will allow you to charge the tablet when your not in your car.
2nd. Your car does NOT have to be running or in accessory mode to charge your tablet.
3rd. Depending on how you wire your amp, you can still listen to music on your tablet when the accessory is off.
4th. You can still use ftp, AirDroid, ES File Explorer, ect.. (As im typing this, i'm transferring over 600 songs to my tablet in the car.)
CONS:
1st. Tablet does not wake when switch is moved to accessory mode. (toggle switch must be pressed)
There may be more cons, but i haven't found any related to my setup yet.
I'll add to this as i run across PROS and CONS.
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i have it set up with my acc line just connected to my ligheter cable and when ever i turn off ignition my tablet turns off and goes on airplane mode.. what i did was i bough a usb addapet that conects to positive n negative line. outputs 2 amps.. its located in the glove box ran the wire through the back and its pluges to the tablet.. so when i turn on the switch the table goes out of airplane mode, turns on my wifi (Wifi Teher) and Bluetoot (For bluetooth gps reciever) and lastly plays my music. . very pleased with the process.. now im hving one issue wich im trying to fix.. since i have booth bluetooth and wifi my tablet seems to drain more battery than it charges... im running c-rom 4.4.4 and i was looking into tfinding a fast charge. if anyone can help me setup fast charge please let me know and good luck. im pretty good with electrical in case you need any help..
****VERY IMPORTANT OPINION*****
I RECOMEND YOU SET A FUSE BEHIND EVERY WIRE TAP YOU MAKE, I HAD TO REPLACE MY ENTIRE WIRING HARNEST DUE TO A SHORTAGE.. SO A FUSE WOULD JUST BLOW AND NOT CAUSE SHORTAGE> :good::cyclops:

This post is old but I still have problems. Anyone had luck or did you just threw away your old and got a new model instead?

yattamove said:
This post is old but I still have problems. Anyone had luck or did you just threw away your old and got a new model instead?
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Got everything set up perfectly let me know if you need any help
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Good project! Have you tried timur's kernel yet? Maybe it will solve your problem.

yattamove said:
Good project! Have you tried timur's kernel yet? Maybe it will solve your problem.
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The thing im using 4.4.4 rom and I believe timurs kernal is only for 2013 version of nexus 7. (Might be wrong) what I ended up doing is making a switch wich in case my battery dieson the tablet I can turn on the switch and charge the tablet over night even when the car is off..
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egren58 said:
The thing im using 4.4.4 rom and I believe timurs kernal is only for 2013 version of nexus 7. (Might be wrong) what I ended up doing is making a switch wich in case my battery dieson the tablet I can turn on the switch and charge the tablet over night even when the car is off..
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I have 2 nexus7 (2012) models. My first one, i had timurs USB ROM for Nexus 7
I never could get it to fast charge even when fast charging was turned on. i was backing up my music and the rom went into a boot loop while it was backing up. So i tried to clear the cache and that didn't help. i then tried to revert back to factory (4.4.4) and i bricked it. It was hung at writing the bootloader. So i left it all nite while i went to bed and the battery died.
My 2nd tablet i left stock (i haven't even tried rooting it yet).

Proper Android Auto headunits

Have just returned my Xtrons unit due to various issues, and looking to change it for a proper Android Auto unit.
Had a look at the Pioneer AVH-X8700BT and quite disappointed, horrible buttons and a creaky flexy facia, and the onscreen menus etc are cluttered and unintuitive. This is a shame as I could have got 20%/£100 off in Halfords.
So interested to hear from anyone who has tried the others. I keep seeing comments about a JBL unit but it seems the launch date keeps getting shoved back. Kenwood - I've not found much about these but not hugely impressed by the look of the on screen menus in the static photos.
The one that has really got my attention is the Sony XAV-AX100 that has supposedly just been released. The unit looks smart and doesn't appear to need neon footwell lamps and extra boost gauges to complement it, (!) and the Sony menus have similar clean/uncluttered look like the Android Auto section. Apparently its only available via Sony Centres and both my local stores haven't come back yet with availability

I agree with your analysis of the options but i don't think the Sony product is released until December:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01LY8222N/geizhals07-21/ref=nosim?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

I personally got the Pioneer F88DAB (which is a european model) and I like the way it works. the menu is working quite well and I like the fact that I am able to adjust the screen tilt.
Android Auto works great at the device and I will upload a video of the device with android auto, so you can see how the menu and all the functions look like.
amazon

that JBL has been pushed back so many times, I would not have any faith in it. The top of the line Kenwood is over a grand, but I have seen some really good reviews on it and few bad reviews. That was my backup plan if I didn't like my Joying, but I love my Joying

Sir_Nomad49 said:
I personally got the Pioneer F88DAB ...amazon
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At £850, it's poor value - you could professionally install a tablet for a lot less. I think I'll wait for the Sony for x-mas

kc1 said:
At £850, it's poor value - you could professionally install a tablet for a lot less. I think I'll wait for the Sony for x-mas
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That is true, but it was easier to install and I personally like the interface of it.
The Sony is a good choice. With a pioneer device you can use appradio or mirra cast.
When I am home, I will upload a video on how it is usable.
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kc1 said:
I agree with your analysis of the options but i don't think the Sony product is released until December:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01LY8222N/geizhals07-21/ref=nosim?m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
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I'm also looking forward to getting the Sony unit later this year. :good:

CayenneGTS said:
I'm also looking forward to getting the Sony unit later this year. :good:
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Looks like it's available to order now
http://amzn.eu/1V2elbz
http://a.co/byhPOFu

Sir_Nomad49 said:
I personally got the Pioneer F88DAB (which is a european model) and I like the way it works. the menu is working quite well and I like the fact that I am able to adjust the screen tilt.
Android Auto works great at the device and I will upload a video of the device with android auto, so you can see how the menu and all the functions look like.
amazon
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I have the previous model the Pioneer F77 DAB. Works very well. Back in the day halfords had it for something over £800 then by accident halfords listed at £600 so reserved one sharpish. Couple of days later it was back at its original price. I think someone had cocked up.
Far as android auto is concerned it works faultlessly. It's pretty quick booting up from off and reverse camera works straight away, not having to wait for unit to boot. Occasionally when turning vehicle key to on unit comes on as normal but if you then hesitate to start engine it seems to crash and take maybe a minute to boot again. Even reverse camera does not work when this happens. Unit comes on when key is turned to power but cranking engine robs power from unit so it turns off and on again. The crash is something to do with the stage of boot when power drops. In all the time I've had it, it has only happened maybe half a dozen times. Other than this it works faultlessly. Pioneer want stupid money for mapping updates for the built in satnav on the downside but half the time I use Google maps in AA for quickness. Pioneer has an app to connect the phone to on board sat navigation - AVICSYNC. It works but is very clunky. Waiting for Waze to become AA compatible but not holding my breath on that one.

Well after failing miserably with two local Sony centres and also Sony online, I managed to find the unit for sale on Amazon! I'd set my heart on it and after three months with a gaping hole in the dashboard, its finally fitted!
First of all, its single DIN behind the facia so plenty of room for wiring looms, and simply slides in unlike the Android units that would need 30 minutes of trying to pull the cables around and still failing to get the facia flush. Also, as expected, it comes with a cage and standard mounting brackets so no bodging needed. Once fitted the unit sits neatly within the existing double din facia.
It starts up fast, works with my factory fitted reversing camera (unlike the Android units) and is simple to navigate. I was concerned about the 'cheap' resistive screen, but its actually very responsive and only needs a light touch.
The only issues I have so far;
1) The volume control knob needs a fair bit of spinning, it needs two or three goes to crank the volume down. I need to check the settings again to see if you can make the adjustment less fine.
2) If I connect the phone and play music on Spotify, and then start the engine, the unit powers down as normal during engine start. When it resumes, the music starts playing on the phone...I have to swipe across to a second screen and press a '+' speaker button to get the audio back through the vehicle speakers. A bug with my phone, or the radio? Something to look in to.
3) There is a limit to how many menu presses you can navigate, and unlike running Android Auto on the phone, instead of a momentary warning, it sticks until you navigate back home. Thats fine, although really irritating if your passenger is trying to find some tunes. But it does the same when stationary...I'm sure my handbrake is wired correctly but regardless, I'll be over-riding that feature as its in a campervan and I normally have a passenger!
4) Just to answer my own questions about the unit; No, the facia is not removable. No, it doesn't come with a remote control (a shame for a campervan!) And unlike the Android units, everything works seamlessly. i.e it doesn't freeze or get laggy, you don't need to wait ages for the unit to boot or Google Maps to load, and if you start the radio, Spotify etc will stop, rather than having two lots of audio competing for your attention

Spooky_b329 said:
3) There is a limit to how many menu presses you can navigate, and unlike running Android Auto on the phone, instead of a momentary warning, it sticks until you navigate back home. Thats fine, although really irritating if your passenger is trying to find some tunes. But it does the same when stationary...I'm sure my handbrake is wired correctly but regardless, I'll be over-riding that feature as its in a campervan and I normally have a passenger!
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Android Auto uses the phones GPS and maybe accelerometer to know when you've stopped.
On my Kenwood unit the handbrake sensor is grounded all the time and I still get that message.

Spooky_b329 said:
Well after failing miserably with two local Sony centres and also Sony online, I managed to find the unit for sale on Amazon! I'd set my heart on it and after three months with a gaping hole in the dashboard, its finally fitted!
First of all, its single DIN behind the facia so plenty of room for wiring looms, and simply slides in unlike the Android units that would need 30 minutes of trying to pull the cables around and still failing to get the facia flush. Also, as expected, it comes with a cage and standard mounting brackets so no bodging needed. Once fitted the unit sits neatly within the existing double din facia.
It starts up fast, works with my factory fitted reversing camera (unlike the Android units) and is simple to navigate. I was concerned about the 'cheap' resistive screen, but its actually very responsive and only needs a light touch.
The only issues I have so far;
1) The volume control knob needs a fair bit of spinning, it needs two or three goes to crank the volume down. I need to check the settings again to see if you can make the adjustment less fine.
2) If I connect the phone and play music on Spotify, and then start the engine, the unit powers down as normal during engine start. When it resumes, the music starts playing on the phone...I have to swipe across to a second screen and press a '+' speaker button to get the audio back through the vehicle speakers. A bug with my phone, or the radio? Something to look in to.
3) There is a limit to how many menu presses you can navigate, and unlike running Android Auto on the phone, instead of a momentary warning, it sticks until you navigate back home. Thats fine, although really irritating if your passenger is trying to find some tunes. But it does the same when stationary...I'm sure my handbrake is wired correctly but regardless, I'll be over-riding that feature as its in a campervan and I normally have a passenger!
4) Just to answer my own questions about the unit; No, the facia is not removable. No, it doesn't come with a remote control (a shame for a campervan!) And unlike the Android units, everything works seamlessly. i.e it doesn't freeze or get laggy, you don't need to wait ages for the unit to boot or Google Maps to load, and if you start the radio, Spotify etc will stop, rather than having two lots of audio competing for your attention
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Re "And unlike the Android units, everything works seamlessly", not true - please see your points 1 and 2 !!
Re "unlike the Android units . . . it doesn't freeze or get laggy, you don't need to wait ages for the unit to boot or Google Maps to load", Android units per se dont have this problem, one particular type, with only 1GB RAM, Lollipop and a later version of Google Maps does, this can easily be sorted.
Glad youre happy with your new unit, enjoy.

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Well after failing miserably with two local Sony centres and also Sony online, I managed to find the unit for sale on Amazon! I'd set my heart on it and after three months with a gaping hole in the dashboard, its finally fitted!
First of all, its single DIN behind the facia so plenty of room for wiring looms, and simply slides in unlike the Android units that would need 30 minutes of trying to pull the cables around and still failing to get the facia flush. Also, as expected, it comes with a cage and standard mounting brackets so no bodging needed. Once fitted the unit sits neatly within the existing double din facia.
It starts up fast, works with my factory fitted reversing camera (unlike the Android units) and is simple to navigate. I was concerned about the 'cheap' resistive screen, but its actually very responsive and only needs a light touch.
The only issues I have so far;
1) The volume control knob needs a fair bit of spinning, it needs two or three goes to crank the volume down. I need to check the settings again to see if you can make the adjustment less fine.
2) If I connect the phone and play music on Spotify, and then start the engine, the unit powers down as normal during engine start. When it resumes, the music starts playing on the phone...I have to swipe across to a second screen and press a '+' speaker button to get the audio back through the vehicle speakers. A bug with my phone, or the radio? Something to look in to.
3) There is a limit to how many menu presses you can navigate, and unlike running Android Auto on the phone, instead of a momentary warning, it sticks until you navigate back home. Thats fine, although really irritating if your passenger is trying to find some tunes. But it does the same when stationary...I'm sure my handbrake is wired correctly but regardless, I'll be over-riding that feature as its in a campervan and I normally have a passenger!
4) Just to answer my own questions about the unit; No, the facia is not removable. No, it doesn't come with a remote control (a shame for a campervan!) And unlike the Android units, everything works seamlessly. i.e it doesn't freeze or get laggy, you don't need to wait ages for the unit to boot or Google Maps to load, and if you start the radio, Spotify etc will stop, rather than having two lots of audio competing for your attention
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My unit came with a remote. I also find what I believe is a software bug, if you turn on the dimmer the maps will always be in night mode.

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Android Auto uses the phones GPS and maybe accelerometer to know when you've stopped.
On my Kenwood unit the handbrake sensor is grounded all the time and I still get that message.
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I've got the same issue. As of 2.0 Android Auto uses the head units' GPS data. If your head unit doesn't have built in navigation (GPS), it won't remove the limitation even if stationary.
Link: https://productforums.google.com/d/msg/android-auto/8mvJEDnJUpU/pmejOMunAgAJ

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My unit came with a remote. I also find what I believe is a software bug, if you turn on the dimmer the maps will always be in night mode.
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I found out it's by design by reading the user manual a bit better. The dimmer is connected to the headlights and when you turn on the lights it will go into night mode, unfortunately I use the lights 24/7 so I will install a toggle switch instead to turn on/off the daylight and the night mode. Pioneer has a a similar setting using the headlights but they also have a setting where you can set the time for night mode, hopefully Sony will have something similar in a future update.

Thanks for the replies!
I've worked out that the unit is detecting the handbrake as the video playback from an SD card is interrupted. I see the comment about the Sony not having built in GPS causing Android Auto to keep the 6 press limit, thats annoying, lets hope its fixed in an update. Surely it can use my phones GPS signal to work out when I'm stopped!
Terre08, I'll send you a PM regarding your remote...interesting!

What are the main Android Auto advantages?

I used Android Auto for the first time yesterday in a rental 2016 VW Jetta. The Phone and Music interfaces look nearly identical to what I get when pairing bluetooth and using the Car's native interface. I'm not seeing much added functionality. As for Navigation, it is nice be able to see it on the car's display. However, since it is landscape mode, only half the screen actually displays the map since there not enough height. When comparing it to what I see on my phone, it is nearly the exact same size. The other half displays the same info I would see on the phone, actually a little less. I suppose the buttons are a little bigger. One small issue is that my phone supports Qualcomm Quick Charge 2 but since I Android auto must use USB, I am left with whatever power the car ouputs. It seemed to be enough to slowly charge my phone even with Nav,Music, Phone, Bluetooth. Is it actually necessary to keep bluetooth on since the USB cable is connected? Another minor nag is that it seems to trigger night mode if I turn on the headlights which got annoying. I'd much rather it uses the light sensor.
I'm not really seeing the advantage. Am I missing some big features?
It seems its about the same to just use my phone and by doing that, I get access to more notifications and all my apps and can see my Nav plus music/phone at the same time.

Youve posted in the wrong section - this is the Android head unit forum, you want the Android Auto forum.

I think the main advantage is you don't have to mount your phone, and you can use the steering wheel to initiate choice controls. I understand what you are saying though. There is nothing life changing
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I've used it a bit longer. I think the major issue I have found is that it is buggy and slow, at least for me. There were probably maybe 3 major issues I found.
1. From sitting down in my car til when it was fully connected and working with nav took way too long.
2. It was very buggy. When the Nav needs to talk, it lowers the volume of the music temporarily. However sometimes, it just completely stops the music with no way to restart it other than unplugging and plugging in again (which would be very distracting while driving). Even then, often it wont reconnect correctly sometimes even causing the car part to reboot
3. It blocks my ability to text. Even on the phone. I can get it to work by going to recent apps and switching but it makes it harder to do it. They shouldn't be deciding what is "safe" and what isnt. If I'm stopped at a red light, I feel it is safe enough to send a txt, but with the blocking it makes it harder. Also it doesnt consider that I may have a passenger in the car that might want to use my phone to send or read a txt. Also, it didnt seem to read google voice or show gmail notificaitons.
It could be so much better

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I've used it a bit longer. I think the major issue I have found is that it is buggy and slow, at least for me. There were probably maybe 3 major issues I found.
1. From sitting down in my car til when it was fully connected and working with nav took way too long.
2. It was very buggy. When the Nav needs to talk, it lowers the volume of the music temporarily. However sometimes, it just completely stops the music with no way to restart it other than unplugging and plugging in again (which would be very distracting while driving). Even then, often it wont reconnect correctly sometimes even causing the car part to reboot
3. It blocks my ability to text. Even on the phone. I can get it to work by going to recent apps and switching but it makes it harder to do it. They shouldn't be deciding what is "safe" and what isnt. If I'm stopped at a red light, I feel it is safe enough to send a txt, but with the blocking it makes it harder. Also it doesnt consider that I may have a passenger in the car that might want to use my phone to send or read a txt. Also, it didnt seem to read google voice or show gmail notificaitons.
It could be so much better
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I understand you may feel it is safe to text at a stop light, but most people fell this too and get caught up in the use of their devices in a car. Texting from a car should be outlawed PERIOD! Even stopped, you need to pay attention to your surroundings while in a vehicle. This is the only way to drive safely. Technological advantages like Android Auto help us band-aid the problem by getting people to look up and away from their screen to hopefully see what is going on around you. Too many people have lost their lives to others not being fully aware of what is happening on the road. I am a tech junkie, but I know it needs to be moderated to keep everyone safe. I see someone on their phone at a light and I feel they are a danger to me and everyone around. Please, stop texting all together from the car. Trust me, if you are important enough......they will wait.
That being said....Sorry (very emotional today). Android Auto does have its advantages with offering Nav in a vehicle without paying for the upgraded interior or having to pay for OnStar Nav. Plus, it keeps heads pointed in the right direction. Up. It would be nice to have it be wireless and not be tethered with a USB cable, but I understand with the amount of data that needs to be passed. Soon all features from the phone could be hands free with inventions like Android Auto paving the way.
Thank you for listening to me rant.

The advantages are:
1. Phone gets GPS signal and speed data from car head unit antenna. This is much accurate than phone.
2. AA integrates with car multimedia and you can control it with steering wheel buttons
3. You can launch Google voice control and read some notifications.
Potentially AA could be much better, but Google had capped most of the good functions:
1. Driving GPS applications are limited to online apps (Gmaps and Waze) which are not offering the capabilities of good apps like Sygic TomTom or iGo.
2. Notification reading of all notifications.
3. Integration of email.
4. Video when not moving.
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jisenberg said:
I understand you may feel it is safe to text at a stop light, but most people fell this too and get caught up in the use of their devices in a car. Texting from a car should be outlawed PERIOD! ...
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Sorry, that is a bit ridiculous. One could argue that being on a call (on a hands free phone) is more distracting. What about people that eat while they drive. Maybe we should outlaw having conversations with passengers too. Alot of distractions are dangerous, it is the driver's responsibility to behave safely. I haven't even mentioned that the driver isnt necessarily the one interacting with android auto. The passenger might be the one that wants to use the device but they are blocked out too.
Oh and guess what, a nag message isnt going to stop someone from doing what they need to do. It just makes it harder and even more distracting.
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The advantages are:
1. Phone gets GPS signal and speed data from car head unit antenna. This is much accurate than phone. ...
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I didn't realize this, good point, my phone's GPS reception isnt so great.
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2. AA integrates with car multimedia and you can control it with steering wheel buttons
3. You can launch Google voice control and read some notifications.
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I don't need AA. If I connect bluetooth, I can control my media with the steering wheel buttons. At least the basic stuff (play/stop, prev, next, vol)
On some cars, I found that hitting the voice button will trigger it on my phone, otherwise, its fairly easy to press the button on the screen. I can also swipe down to read notificaitons. (ofcourse everything looks smaller)

Need some help with my new Phone

First of all, I love this phone. The main selling point for me was the massive battery and from there it's just getting better counting in the other features, but as always, nothing is perfect and I'm not that experienced with Android in general so figured I'd ask away here. As a disclaimer, for all the things below, I'm not interested in rooting the phone, feel free to write if rooting is the only option though and if doing so, what I am asking for would work.
Is there any way to turn off the volume warning? Like if you're going above 70%. Seems it's a lot less aggressive than on my old S9 though.
Is there any way to add a few more steps to the volume? It appears 15 is the highest volume at the moment. And the highest volume is a bit low for my taste, when listening to music. I'm using BOSE QC20's and while they sound great, I could use a few more steps. I used some App on my S9 but it didn't really sound that well. For comparison, on the PC you can put VLC on 200% AND turn up the volume on the headset as well, if you want.
What kind of screen protection would you advice? Or shouldn't I bother with that?
How water resistant is the phone? All I know is that there is no classification yet. Even it isn't, how would you rate it? Go Swimming? Drop it in a pool of water? Walk with it in the rain? Or panic if one droplet gets anywhere close to the speakers?
Can I dual charge the phone? As in, if the Fan is connected, can I put one charger in the bottom Type-C port and one into the fan?
What happens if I put the charger in the Red sideport? Not that I would, just curious as I saw a warning saying not to.
Similar to the dual charge, would a PC gaming headset work on the phone that uses 2 3.5mm pins? The sound pin would go into the fan and the mic pin would go into the bottom slot of the phone, or vice versa?
I've been trying to change the Notification sound and ringtone for Whatsapp using the same sounds I had for my S9. I've added both (Orange & Whisper) but they just don't want to work. I made them in .mp4 (aac), .mp3 & .oog formats. When I select them in the list, they are played as they should but when I get a message and/or recieve a call, the latest (standard) signal is instead used.
Update: I managed to get the notification sound to work now (Whisper). By going into the Phone Settings -> Notifications -> WhatsApp. Seems that option in there would override the App Settings. However, when I get a call now, BOTH the original ringtone and the S9 (Orange) one is played ontop of each other.
While we are on WhatsApp, how can I remove the big notifications. Like, there's 2 types. The one at the top of the screen (I want this) and then it's the big popup in the middle of the screen (that has a reply field and some more options (I don't want this). I remember it was a hassle to get rid of on my S9 so thought I'd ask.
Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there.
Last but not least, can I move the clock on the lockscreen? It's currently in the top left corner, I'd prefer to have it centered.
Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance!

I've replied in line to the questions I can answer.
How water resistant is the phone? All I know is that there is no classification yet. Even it isn't, how would you rate it? Go Swimming? Drop it in a pool of water? Walk with it in the rain? Or panic if one droplet gets anywhere close to the speakers?
Not very, there doesn't appear to be any waterproofing, check the sim card tray for example, no rubber seal.
Can I dual charge the phone? As in, if the Fan is connected, can I put one charger in the bottom Type-C port and one into the fan?
You could but the phone isn't going to charge twice as fast, I think it'll likely only charge from one port but shouldn't do any damage.
What happens if I put the charger in the Red sideport? Not that I would, just curious as I saw a warning saying not to.
People say it dies but I haven't tried it, it's not the same as a C port so you'd have to force it.
Similar to the dual charge, would a PC gaming headset work on the phone that uses 2 3.5mm pins? The sound pin would go into the fan and the mic pin would go into the bottom slot of the phone, or vice versa?
No, there's no mic in option afaik.
Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there.
Probably a feature as I think I've seen that on some pixel launchers but I don't use the stock one personally.

1) There isn't;
2) You can only set Outdoor Mode on, but the volume will go up, no volume steps wil be added;
3) I think you should go for one with good comments, since you have the fingerscan under the display and a screen protection may void It;
4) the phone is not certified for water/dust resistance. So, just avoid contact with water. Tho, I don't think some raindrop will ruin it;
5) You cannot dual charge the phone;
6) The Red sideport is a Trademark Port made by Asus exclusively for their optional accessories. So, just leave It alone if you don't wanna be sorry;
7) No such phone will ever have the drivers made for Windows/MacOs which makes the headset to work on a personal computer;
8) You can have this setted on the Sound Settings;
9) You can have this setted on the Notification Settings;
10) that's a feature;
11) you must use third part apps for that.

Thank you so much, both of you.
The volume warning is a lot less of a pain than I initially thought. The one on the S9 is rather agressive so had some bad experiences. Can't say I notice any diff with Outdoor mode but I'll try more later, suppose it's fine.
Good point about the screen protection, I'll definately keep the fingerprint sensor in mind.
The waterproofing, or non-waterproofing rather is one of the Con's of the phone I suppose. Not that it's an issue but I'd rather not care at all as I could with my old phone. Thanks for clarifying though. My dad lost his old iPhone 6 to having his phone in the rain so I kinda know the limit then (as that also lacked any kind of cert).
No dual charging, makes sense. One takes prio.
Yeah, I'll not mess with the red port. @willhemmens, dies as in "throw the phone and buy a new one" or "phone shuts off but just restart and it's fine". (Like, battery is dead/dies). Just curious here really.
I see, that's too bad. Suppose I'd have to get one of those 2 becomes 1 3.5mm cable adapters.
@NajimKiSaad, that's just for the phone ringtone/sms though? This is for Whatsapp exclusively. It's as if a WhatsApp call triggers as a normal call as well as it's own settings, kinda.
Hm, where? Settings -> Apps & Notifications -> WhatsApp -> Notifications, it's set to - Behavior: Make Sound. Same in the App itself, Popup is not enabled anywhere.
"Bug or feature? When I'm inside a program and exit back to the Home screen, I've noticed the "locked" bottom row starts jumping, as if they want to swipe up. I'm using the Two-Layer mode. Not sure if it's a bug or a feature "showing" me there's stuff down there."
Well, that's good to know. How do I disable it? I just find it annyoing.
And for the clock widget on the Lockscreen, any recommendations? I like the style of the default one, just the position is kinda off.
Once again, thanks for all the answers!

Not related to your questions but have you felt that this phone just cuts off the internet connection to Whatsapp? I don't get notifications after a while and the Whatsapp Web says that my phone is not connected to internet even though there is internet. Whatsapp only starts working when I open this app. Then, I get all the messages. I have allowed unrestricted internet access to this app and turned off battery optimization for this app. Any ideas?

That's interesting, I haven't had it as you describe it no but since I got the phone, I've noticed the "last online" doesn't always show on my friend I have on WA. Could be that she has turned it off but it works sometimes.
Looking at the top bar on the phone, I added internet speed and it says 0 B/s quite often so my guess is that it only uses internet on demand, maybe it has something to do with that?
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Think I might have seen a post about it too, could be wrong though.