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I read several days ago about how the pixel 4/4xl already allows third party launchers to use the native gestures.
I also read that you need to have gestures enabled in order to utilize the new google assistant.
My question is has anyone that has received their new pixel used nova launcher (my all-time fave), enabled native gestures and was able to utilize the new google assistant?
My new 4xl is on a truck for delivery today and I'm pretty excited.
I'm coming from the 3xl so I know it's not a huge upgrade, but I think there's enough to make me happy with the decision.
TIA
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
Well, that's disappointing.
I'm certainly not interested in a third party gestures app in addition to a third party launcher.
Hopefully nova can update their app so I can use the native gestures while utilizing the new google assistant.
The new assistant is supposed to be awesome, so if nova can't do it right now, I'll be forced to stick with the pixel launcher, which would also be a little disappointing but would be necessary as I value the new assistant more at this point.
Thanks for the response.
phrozact said:
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Yeah ideally I'd rather not have to install additional programs if I can avoid it, but there was a notice within the Nova Launcher app saying it's beyond their control.
Anyway, maybe things might change when you receive your phone so no harm trying out for yourself. At least the stock launcher is still pretty decent.
phrozact said:
It seems that third party launchers aren't compatible with the native gestures. I prefer Nova Launcher as well, but when I use the native gestures to return home I get switched back to the stock launcher.
So what I've ended up doing is go with the button navigation and configured Fluid Navigation Gestures to mimic the default gesture behaviour and hide the button navigation bar. It's been working great so far and Assistant still seems to be working.
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Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
spaceman860 said:
Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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bkrickles said:
So, have you actually done this and, more importantly, does the new assistant work with nova as your launcher?
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Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly
spaceman860 said:
Google gestures work fine with nova. You just have to set nova or whatever launcher as your default launcher. It won't switch back to stock launcher on home swipe
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Hmm...I stand corrected. Not sure why it didn't work when I tried earlier even though I specified Nova as my default, but thanks!
Thanks.
I know I did a duplicate post in the 4 and 4xl forums and appreciate the quick responses.
This is great news and I had not seen this particular question asked anywhere.
Good luck to all!
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Yes, using nova and gestures and assistant works perfectly
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I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?
I switched to Nova as default and it worked fine. However, the smooth new app animations do not work or look like the pixel launcher animations. System animation in Nova is just the slide.
dhawalsinha said:
I tried to use Nova with the new gestures on my Pixel 3 but Nova said that they can't support the new gestures due to Google not making it compatible with 3rd party launchers. Didn't try it on my pixel 4.
Maybe I missed something, how did you get it to work?
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I had to set it to 3 button navigation, hit home and set nova the default launcher, then re-enable gesture nav. But it is working perfectly for me.
I'm using Nova and the gestures are working fine.
Only thing is can't get rid of the line on the bottom of the home page.
Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL
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Nova and Action launcher both work fine for me on P4XL
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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.
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Have you had any issues at all with Action Launcher? I tried using it and certain apps seemed to get stuck. It was very weird, like the app screen got set as the home screen - I could long press on the app screen and make home screen things happen. But I never could get back to actual home screen. I had to reboot.
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I did not notice this, but I'm currently using Nova. I do know that you need to actually set the launcher as your default through the settings menu rather than through the launcher. That's the only way I could get it to reliably work.
I updated my phone today but the option for the gesture navigation option stays grey and I can't get into the menu. I want to use this nice looking and smoothly working Google bar that I've seen in the beta one ui 2.0 Videos. Is it just for me like this or are there more people with the same problem... Really don't want to reset my phone. I already reseted my settings
It freezes right? Its still updating. After a reboots ita back to normal
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I updated my phone today but the option for the gesture navigation option stays grey and I can't get into the menu. I want to use this nice looking and smoothly working Google bar that I've seen in the beta one ui 2.0 Videos. Is it just for me like this or are there more people with the same problem... Really don't want to reset my phone. I already reseted my settings
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Select full screen gestures (the second option of your screenshot) and go on "other options" (the button immediately under it), from here you can choose Google gestures. ?
I tried but the option stays grey and I can't select it
Orlaf said:
Select full screen gestures (the second option of your screenshot) and go on "other options" (the button immediately under it), from here you can choose Google gestures. ?
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The more option tab stays grey, I deleted cache and restarted the phone so many time already. Don't know what it is. Before the update I had a lot of unnecessary apps disabled with adhell. After the update my multitasking window wouldn't open no matter what. After uninstalling adhell it worked again. There could be a connection but I don't know which it it
Samsung seems to of broken something there. It is good news for me for whenever my carrier updates my S10+ to Android 10 as I don't like the gesture crap at all.
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The more option tab stays grey, I deleted cache and restarted the phone so many time already. Don't know what it is. Before the update I had a lot of unnecessary apps disabled with adhell. After the update my multitasking window wouldn't open no matter what. After uninstalling adhell it worked again. There could be a connection but I don't know which it it
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It works for me with samsung launcher. It doesnt with any other launcher.
RSchris said:
It works for me with samsung launcher. It doesnt with any other launcher.
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Thanks a lot, that actually was the issue. Also had problems activating Samsung launcher but now everything works
Best regards
Alexnder J. said:
Thanks a lot, that actually was the issue. Also had problems activating Samsung launcher but now everything works
Best regards
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On Reddit there is and adb command to get it work, but didnt on mine. I used lawnchair, but Samsung one is raster imo.
In Nova Launcher settings there's a message that the new gestures aren't supposed to work with third party launchers, cause Google implemented a barrier for this in Android 10's source code which checks if the launcher is a system.app or not. Maybe it works on rooted phone with systemized Nova.
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In Nova Launcher settings there's a message that the new gestures aren't supposed to work with third party launchers, cause Google implemented a barrier for this in Android 10's source code which checks if the launcher is a system.app or not. Maybe it works on rooted phone with systemized Nova.
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That’s a shame... Would love to use Google-style gestures with the Rootless Pixel Launcher.
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Jannomag said:
In Nova Launcher settings there's a message that the new gestures aren't supposed to work with third party launchers, cause Google implemented a barrier for this in Android 10's source code which checks if the launcher is a system.app or not. Maybe it works on rooted phone with systemized Nova.
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Rooting does nothing. But the new security patch allows for it to work on pixel phones, check xda news, we’ll eventually get it
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On Reddit there is and adb command to get it work, but didnt on mine. I used lawnchair, but Samsung one is raster imo.
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Got a link? I'm on Lawnchair too.
On Nova's Discord they said that this won't happen on Nova and even with Lawn chair it doesn't work for everyone. We just can hope and wait...but I have to admit that I tried the old and the new gestures for a couple of days but switched back to the classic navbar because it's easier if using just one hand and also when the phone is mounted in my car.
I'm using Nova and it's fine
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You could try following the tutorial here:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/
It seems to work for me, but has to be redone after a reboot...
Unfortunally it's too glitchy!
demster said:
You could try following the tutorial here:
https://www.theandroidsoul.com/how-...ova-launcher-and-other-third-party-launchers/
It seems to work for me, but has to be redone after a reboot...
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Didn't work for me, using Lawnchair here.
Update
Gestures as normal work, not the side to side feature which is annoying
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How they work?
Hello,
I'm on 12.0.2.0 Global firmware with my Mi11. I have one big problem, one i active full screen navigation gesture, i can confirm geste with the Xiaomi test but once it has finished no way to have gesture navigation and if i reboot phone it put back the navigation bar. Someone has the same problem than me? Is there a setting somewhere to fix that or is it definitively a bad bug. I can't flash because of BL locked and phone don't have to make an update, for it I am updated with the last rom.
Thank you for your answers.
Do you use a third party launcher? Fullscreen gesture don't work with third party launcher on MIUI Android 11. Reported the issue to Xiaomi, they said it's Android fault, but on my OnePlus 8T fullscreen gesture work well even with launcher...
Wow. It was that, crazy thing. Thank you for the trick. Bad move from Xiaomi, even with custom A11 on any device (like my Mix 3) no problem with full screen gesture and 3rd party launcher.
About third party launcher , this is the email I got from Nova regarding gestures
"Hello,
Thank you for contacting Nova Launcher support. Below is a lot of information that we encourage you to read completely as it will answer your questions or other questions you might have related to the full system gestures in Android 10, Android 11 and going forward.
PLEASE READ THIS EMAIL IN FULL!
Home/Default Launcher Constantly Being Reset
If you are experiencing issues with Nova not staying as the default launcher on Android 10 or Android 11, these first steps are for you specifically.
If you are having issues with Nova staying as your default launcher, try this: Reboot your device. Or you can try Phone Settings -> Apps -> Default Apps -> Home App -> Nova Launcher. You might need to do this several times and reboot several times for this to fix the issue.
This is a very well known issue on Samsung and other devices, but specifically with new updates directly from Samsung starting as early as December 1st, 2020.
If this doesn't fix your issue, then you need to contact Samsung directly as the issue is on their end, with their update and has nothing to do with Nova or any other launcher, as this issue will happen in all 3rd party launchers.
The issue above isn't just for Samsung users, though the issue happens on every Samsung device that's gotten an update since December 1st, 2020.
Everything mentioned below is still present with the release of Android 11 on September 8th, 2020. Google has made it very clear that they have no plans to completely fix gesture-related issues any time in the near or even distant future.
Please take note that Google admits to this being broken on their end of things and that a fix will be coming in a future update to Android (stated March 2019).
However, it's now well over a year later and there are still many issues with full system gestures and 3rd party launchers on both Android 10 and Android 11. These issues will remain for the foreseeable future as Google have now made it clear that they have no plans to completely fix their full system gestures.
Notable issues with gestures on third party launchers include, but not limited to:
Close all/Clear app button not appearing(scroll all the way to verify it's not there)
Not being able to tap icons for a short time after returning to the home screen
Animations not being as fluid as expected
Screen blinks
Home screen icons blink
Home screen refreshes
Please understand, there is absolutely NOTHING WE CAN DO TO FIX OR CHANGE THIS IN ANY WAY! Contact Google or your device OEM directly with these issues as we have absolutely no control over it whatsoever.
Samsung Users
Samsung has allowed full system gestures to be used within 3rd party launchers with their One UI 2.5 update. This means you can now enable and use gestures, but there are still several issues regarding animations and the like.
As stated, there is nothing that Nova (or indeed any other 3rd party launcher) can do about this and it is ultimately up to Google and OEMs to fix navigation gestures.
Google's statement and Nova's statement
Google: https://android-developers.googleblog.com/2019/07/android-q-beta-5-update.html
Nova: https://help.teslacoilapps.com/faq/gesture-navigation
Enabling Gestures
As of the December 2019 Security Patch from Google, you can now enable full system gestures within 3rd party launchers on Pixel devices. However, the caveat of this is that you are likely to experience the issues mentioned above. To reiterate, this is still all up to Google to fix at some point in the future and to get things working 100% the way everyone expects them to be.
If and when you experience issues with gestures on 3rd party launchers, we highly recommend you contact Google and not Nova Support because, as we have said, there is absolutely nothing we can do to fix Google's problems.
Devices From Other Manufacturers
As some members in this Discord have noticed, some devices from certain manufacturers provide a reasonably usable experience with gestures. In particular, OnePlus devices on Oxygen OS 10 and above behave reasonably well with gestures.
This is because OnePlus (and other manufacturers) are using their own implementation of gestures rather than Google's which means that you might not get all of the issues referenced above. However, just like before, we (Nova) have no control over these and any issues you do experience should be brought up with the manufacturer and not us.
Action Launcher's False Claims
Action Launcher made an announcement back in late December 2019 which is completely misleading. When stating that they support system gestures, They are referring to the back swipe edit zones and other features within the app not interfering with Android's own system gestures.
As stated before, full system gestures are completely controlled by Android and are not something a launcher can just suddenly add support for or change in any way. When using gestures with Action Launcher, you'll quickly notice that the experience has just as many issues as it does with Nova or any other 3rd party launcher, reiterating the point that it is not something that any third party launcher can change or improve."
Well it is combined default of Google and Xiaomi. Google let's Xiaomi to fix if they want but Xiaomi (and Nova, for what I read) blames Google to no doing it. I don't understand, if it is Google default, why on custom A11 rom i have no problems with gesture navigation with Nova.
Hum... This launcher is a sh*t. Icons play hide game...
Problem solved for me with Fluid NG, i am out of Mi Launcher Clown Edition and go back to Nova with gestures.
Azev said:
Problem solved for me with Fluid NG, i am out of Mi Launcher Clown Edition and go back to Nova with gestures.
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I'm sorry, if I may know did you solve it by installing FNG and..? Rooting?
I installed FNG and gestures are working, but I'm stuck with the navbar. If I enable full screen gestures via Settings, I lose them and get back the ugly navbar as soon as I lock the screen or reboot.
I gave FNG all permissions + ADB WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS permission, but still despite the gestures working there is no way of getting rid of the navbar..
Or are you stuck in the same situation too? (Nova with full screen gestures but navbar still visible)?
Thanks in advance!
zqref said:
I'm sorry, if I may know did you solve it by installing FNG and..? Rooting?
I installed FNG and gestures are working, but I'm stuck with the navbar. If I enable full screen gestures via Settings, I lose them and get back the ugly navbar as soon as I lock the screen or reboot.
I gave FNG all permissions + ADB WRITE_SECURE_SETTINGS permission, but still despite the gestures working there is no way of getting rid of the navbar..
Or are you stuck in the same situation too? (Nova with full screen gestures but navbar still visible)?
Thanks in advance!
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Activate gesture on Xiaomi settings and no more navbar. There is no navbar on screenshot and this is Nova
Azev said:
Activate gesture on Xiaomi settings and no more navbar. There is no navbar on screenshot and this is Nova
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Thanks, sadly this doesn't work for me. As I mentioned, if I activate this on the xiaomi settings the result is that it resets upon any screenlock or device restart, giving back the navigation bar.
zqref said:
Thanks, sadly this doesn't work for me. As I mentioned, if I activate this on the xiaomi settings the result is that it resets upon any screenlock or device restart, giving back the navigation bar.
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Have you found a solution for this? Cause i face the same problem
Maybe this works for you, at least it works for me on MI11 on Xiaomi.eu A12 rom.
[Guide] Changing Recents Provider on Miui 12.5+ [QuickStep][Miui QuickSwitch]
Hello everyone Intro: i was looking for some stuff the other day and I stumbled upon GApps Plus for Miui, one of the mods was switching to AOSP recents after looking into it, it seems that its possible to use QuickSwtich or other Launchers as...
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Solution:
You need root+magisk
install magiskhide props config
then using emulator (Termux etc.)
"su" then
"props" then
press "5" then
press "n" for new custom prop
add this line below to prop
Code:
qemu.hw.mainkeys
then set value "1"
then restart. that's it. no more navbar. (also fullscreen)
and I recommend you "Edge Gestures" for fullscreen gestures using Nova launcher or others.
garfi said:
Solution:
You need root+magisk
install magiskhide props config
then using emulator (Termux etc.)
"su" then
"props" then
press "5" then
press "n" for new custom prop
add this line below to prop
Code:
qemu.hw.mainkeys
then set value "1"
then restart. that's it. no more navbar. (also fullscreen)
and I recommend you "Edge Gestures" for fullscreen gestures using Nova launcher or others.
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yeah but the problem is that if i root device i will loose access to my Bank app (FINECO) and G Pay too.
Do you have a working tested valit method to have all Safetynet services up and running there ?
ph1dft said:
Maybe this works for you, at least it works for me on MI11 on Xiaomi.eu A12 rom.
[Guide] Changing Recents Provider on Miui 12.5+ [QuickStep][Miui QuickSwitch]
Hello everyone Intro: i was looking for some stuff the other day and I stumbled upon GApps Plus for Miui, one of the mods was switching to AOSP recents after looking into it, it seems that its possible to use QuickSwtich or other Launchers as...
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I'd love to root my phone but I just got my F3 a week ago and I'm afraid that I'll messed up so i think I'mma stay unroot till my warranty is out.
As some of you know you can't use Full gesture navigation on MIUI with Android 11, either version 12.0 or 12.5, Xiaomi hasn't yet fixed this issue cause its seems at least Samsung and Oneplus already fixed it.
I have searched and found some alternatives to gesture navigation using 3rd party launchers like Nova Launcher.
Tried Infinity Gestures and Fluid Navigation Gestures but its no hiding my navigation bar, by accessibility or root.
Do you guys know other good alternatives that simulate Miui gestures? preferably not paid or with ads.
I am using FNG and its working perfectly fine. device is rooted.
to hide navbar, use this command via adb or rooted terminal
'settings put global force_fsg_nav_bar 1'
before root somehow fng was not working but infinity was working perfectly
xwonic said:
As some of you know you can't use Full gesture navigation on MIUI with Android 11, either version 12.0 or 12.5, Xiaomi hasn't yet fixed this issue cause its seems at least Samsung and Oneplus already fixed it.
I have searched and found some alternatives to gesture navigation using 3rd party launchers like Nova Launcher.
Tried Infinity Gestures and Fluid Navigation Gestures but its no hiding my navigation bar, by accessibility or root.
Do you guys know other good alternatives that simulate Miui gestures? preferably not paid or with adAfter
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After setting up Nova as your default launcher, download my gestures or edge gestures app from playstore, set it up and then go into homescreen inside the MIUI settings. There change navigation from buttons to gestures. This will remove the nav bar. By default this will lock you inside the setting app as the default gestures do not work if system launcher is changed from Mi launcher to any third party launcher. That's why I said first set up my gestures/edge gestures so that you don't get locked inside the settings app.
Btw when the phone is rooted, I'll dare to suggest to try CustoMIUIzer. It has a launcher section where you can tweak the default launcher such as hiding icon labels and modifying home screen gestures. May be you shall not feel the need to change Mi launcher to third party launcher, after tweaking it with CustoMIUIzer!!
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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On MIUI, Gestures do not work with nova or any third party launcher.
but on AOSP custom roms works normally.
I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
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I very much doubt this is a bug. you are supposed to use the system launcher and consume the ads
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Well that is true, its just sad & pathetic, is there any way to circumvent this issue?
My guessing is, that Xiaomi disabled the android system gestures and has their own gestures implemented into the stock launcher. So removing the launcher, removes the gesture input.
Why I think that? Because #1, Xiaomi used to implement gesture navigation in miui even before Google implemented them in android. #2 the settings for gestures in miui 12 are inside the launcher menu.
I think that some kind of magisk module, which would enable/install the stock android gestures, would be possible.
shadow1000 said:
About 4ish months ago, when I last used MIUI, there was a bug preventing gesture based navigation on third party launchers (nova, etc)
Can anyone confirm if that has been fixed by now?
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You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
Cliffezaki said:
You can use full screen navigation launcher app. It works perfectly for me. Here is a video from youtube that helped me with that.
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This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
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This is one way to do it, but it gets annoying after a while as sometimes (i.e. pressing back rather than home, recent apps, a few other ways) will go back to the default launcher rather than the 3rd party launcher; also you are running two launchers all the time which isn't the best.
A better way is: set third party launcher + FNG, then use ADB to hide the navigation bar.
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How do you use adb to do that?
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How do you use adb to do that?
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CUSTOM LAUNCHER GESTURES