Sounds like T-Mobile shut down 5G access for Sprint S10 5G phones today (4/21), and I'm no longer getting 5G access/speeds in KC. I'll be damned if I'm going to keep paying 5G phone and plan prices for these really lame 4G speeds.
Which is worse? Only getting 4G speeds because T-Mobile bricked the 5G on your Sprint 5G phone, or getting Coronavirus from 5G? lol
"On April 21, 2020, T-Mobile officially started customer side changes after the merger, the first change being network related. They officially launched their 2.5GHz 5G NR network using the spectrum they acquired from the merger in Philadelphia, shutting down the network to Sprint subscribers. They also stated that wherever Sprint's 2.5GHz network is live: Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, and Washington, DC; they intend to switch to T-Mobile brand (NY being next) and cut off Sprint's subscribers access to said network. The only exception to this is if the Sprint subscriber has the Samsung Galaxy S20, for which they will have full access to the T-Mobile branded 5G network without having to switch to a T-Mobile device. T-Mobile did state that for now, legacy Sprint customers using first gen 5G devices can still access the network until it's switched over using their current 5G devices, and once the switch happens these devices will just switch over to only using 4G LTE. They did state these customers will have an "incentive deal" to switch over to a T-Mobile branded 5G device when these switches occur."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merger_of_Sprint_Corporation_and_T-Mobile_US
Update to add: I was able to move location and get 5G access/speed tonight. So looks like my S10 5G still has 5G access in KC, but no idea for how long (until T-Mobile turns it off).
Apparently true. T-Mobile is bricking the 5G part of your Sprint S10 5G phone.
"Sprint customers with first gen 5G phones like the OnePlus 7 Pro 5G will continue to have access to Sprint’s 5G network that’s live in nine metro areas: Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas-Fort Worth, Houston, Kansas City, Los Angeles, New York, Phoenix, and Washington, DC. But Karri Kuoppamaki, T-Mobile’s vice president of radio network technology, tells PCMag that those phones will become 4G devices as T-Mobile takes over the 5G airwaves. T-Mo added that Sprint customers with those devices will get a deal to help them move to new T-Mobile 5G phones."
https://www.tmonews.com/2020/04/t-mobile-sprint-combining-network-2-5ghz-5g-philadelphia/
How about s10 5G Sprint still have access 5G with T-Mobile???
sctvnn said:
How about s10 5G Sprint still have access 5G with T-Mobile???
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Did you ever get a answer about this?
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Hi guys. I was reading news of Qualcomm announcing X55 5G modem which is the follow up model to S10 5G’s X50 modem and one of the advantage was the new X55 isn’t carrier specific. From my limited understanding it seems X50 will only work on the carrier the phone is sold for and I assume limited to 4G LTE if roaming/unlocked. Does this mean the Verizon S10 5G available later this month can only get 5G on Verizon and the South Korean 5G model won’t work in the US?
Also, there is a Department of Defense paper last month on 5G race and it mentioned China is pushing the world to adapt 6GHz 5G standards while the US is pushing mmWAVE because 6GHz spectrums are allocated to the military in the US. It states most countries will adapt China’s standard as most countries have 6GHz free. I don’t know the advantage/disadvantage of 6GHz vs mmWAVE but does it means US 5G phones and carriers are incompatible with international 5G phones and carriers?
Sorry for the long questions. Thinking I should ask the experts here. Want to get a Verizon S10 5G to use on Sprint later this year.
It's my understanding that they will be carrier locked. AT&T, Verizon, and T-Mobile are all using some different bands in their 5G phones.
hello
according spécifications
G977N : 5G
Bit78 TDD 3.5Ghz ( 5g NR)
Bit257 26Ghz ( 5g NR)
G977U 5G :
bit71 600Mhz ( 5g NR)
Bit260 39Ghz ( 5g NR)
Bit261 28Ghz ( 5g NR)
NR = New Radio
regards
Hi I have Verizon Pixel 5 and have no 5g nationwide I went down to the US Bank Stadium and got 5g uw and it is fast 1,483- 1,730 mbps down and 86-95 mbps up. but I have tried all over and can not get 5g nationwide just LTE anybody getting 5g ????
shopman59 said:
Hi I have Verizon Pixel 5 and have no 5g nationwide I went down to the US Bank Stadium and got 5g uw and it is fast 1,483- 1,730 mbps down and 86-95 mbps up. but I have tried all over and can not get 5g nationwide just LTE anybody getting 5g ????
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If you got uw then you were practically standing on top of it. I've seen 5g on my phone but no huge boost in speed. I get about 65Mbps d/l and 12 u/l.
I have a business account with over 700 lines with verizon and had an in-depth conversation about 5g with my rep as I didn't want employees asking for 5g phone because they hear it was so much faster. I'm glad I did as it is not ready yet for everyone.
She mentioned that ultra is not available in all areas as of now and that standard 5g is being run on top of the LTE network. She did say that standard 5g is a little faster than LTE.
This being said when I see 5g I am seeing up to 150 up and 20 down.
They needed to compete with Tmob and att since they are all doing the same thing and put it on top of LTE until they can have ultra 5g in most areas.
I hope this is helpful info.
Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
shopman59 said:
Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
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Nope! 20% less.
shopman59 said:
Got the update today on my Verizon pixel 5 and I now have 5G Nationwide sure hope the battery life stays the same
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After a week on 5g I can definitely see 5g using more battery
bggold said:
I have a business account with over 700 lines with verizon and had an in-depth conversation about 5g with my rep as I didn't want employees asking for 5g phone because they hear it was so much faster. I'm glad I did as it is not ready yet for everyone.
She mentioned that ultra is not available in all areas as of now and that standard 5g is being run on top of the LTE network. She did say that standard 5g is a little faster than LTE.
This being said when I see 5g I am seeing up to 150 up and 20 down.
They needed to compete with Tmob and att since they are all doing the same thing and put it on top of LTE until they can have ultra 5g in most areas.
I hope this is helpful info.
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I am on AT&T and I get the "5Ge" instead of LTE, which is basically LTE Enhanced.
Please can anyone who knows about cellular bands and sims tell me why my US Unlocked Pixel 4a 5G somehow shows
a 5G signal with a VZN 4G sim? How is that possible? Thanks.
Because there's no such thing as a "4G/5G SIM", your sim card tells network what phone number you are and that's it.
Thanks. I shouldn't have assumed that VZN's enhanced 5G network needed a different sim card.
you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
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you might want to consider upgrading to a new SIM - the one you have might work with "non-standalone" 5G, but might not work for standalone 5G. Probably not something you need to do in a hurry, but probably worth considering for future-proofing
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This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
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This is pretty much flat untrue, the phone holds the antennas capable of getting service from 5g. All the sim does is tell your carrier what phone number you are, if it blocks you from 5g it's because your carrier has you blocked from 5g.
I was blocked from 5g cause I didn't tell my carrier I had a 5g phone now but one phone call and they added "5g access" to my account.
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It's not just about radio frequency reception... 5G has encryption and security algorithms that are different to 4G, and newer '5G' SIMS support that. So a 4G SIM that works on 5G now might stop working depending on how VZN implements things in the future. Currently most US network's 5G also requires simultaneous connection to 4G for various aspects of the connection
I bought the unlocked 4A5G on launch day and am a Verizon user. I purposely did this as it was 100 bucks cheaper, and the only difference between the unlocked and VZW specific model is the MMwave antenna (short range, high speed) which is the 5G variant that Verizon has installed at football stadiums and in some city center locations. I don't care about either of those, and didn't care to pay an extra 100 for something I don't care about.
On Google's product page for the unlocked 4A5G, it clearly states that the unlocked version will work on Verizon's sub6 (what they call Nationwide 5G), which shares spectrum (DSS) with the existing 4G/LTE that they use. Its really not much faster than existing 4G/LTE.
This is why you're getting 5G. There is no such thing as a 5G SIM as far as we all know. It all has to do with how Verizon (or any other carrier) provisions your account with the combo of the SIM and IMEI. In my case, I had an older SIM that said 4G/LTE on it (marketing actually), and the phone worked fine, but it was provisioned by Verizon years ago on god knows what phone I had at the time. I did not get 5G with that SIM, but likely could have had it been reprovisioned by Verizon. But it was easier to get a new SIM rather than try and explain it to the Verizon 1st like tech.
I ended up getting another SIM, got with Verizon tech support, they reprovisioned the phone with the new SIM and bang... 5G reception.
Is worth getting verzion locked phone for free.Buti still got unlocked pixel 4 XL not sure if worth upgrade to 5g?
I'm not 100% on 5G coverage in the USA, but in my experience switching back from S20 FE 5G to Pixel 4, 5G has made no difference. Save your money and stick to 4G.
Verizon use mmwave 5G which will give you blazing, near gigabit speeds but also be blocked very easily by buildings and... passing flocks of birds, jk.
if you don't live in a major city it would be useless as I understand it.
Today, all of a sudden, I see 5G showing up on my HK model G9980. I just did the big update Doesn't feel faster than LTE. Does anyone else know about this?
Has TMOB got additional 5G banks that work in the US ? Did they just switch them on? It means this is now a US and much of ROW 5G phone.
It's Low Band 5G on Tmobile, as you stated not much different than 4G LTE. Tmobile doesn't offer super fast mmWave 5G, only Verizon and AT&T but at this point their coverage is very limited. Since there's not much difference between Low Band 5G and 4G LTE it might be better to stick with 4G LTE as 5G consumes more power. You can check compatibility with your IMEI Number here.
Bring Your Own Unlocked Phone | IMEI Compatibility Check & Activate Online | T-Mobile
Bringing your own device to T-Mobile is an easy way to switch. Check your IMEI for compatibility, follow these steps, and activate your phone online today.
www.t-mobile.com
Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
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Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
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It's likely 5G Band N41 anchored to 4G LTE on Band 2. Both of these are functional on the SM-G9980 and utilized by Tmobile.
Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
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Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
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NSA anchors the control signaling of 5G Radio Networks to the 4G Core, while the SA scheme connects the 5G Radio directly to the 5G core network, the control signaling does not depend on the 4G network.
It says 5G most of the time now but speeds are essentially the same as 4g in the US. So it isn't real 5G?
OP just got his juices flowing.
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I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
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I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
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On the 9880??? Which device do you have?