hello
i own atm a xiaomi note 10 pro (also called cc9 pro) , quite like it, amazed by photo quality and also by all these functionalities it offer like second space.
with this phoen i can protect access to certain apps with another password or schema or face recognition, i was wondering if sony had this too, if it was an android 10 functionality or just dev by xiaomi.
thxx for your help
No, it doesn't. Coming from a Huawei phone I miss many things, no protecting apps with a fingerprint, no face unlock, no virus scanner, no compass, No vault, etc. It's pretty much bare Android.
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Hello,
I am planning to move from mi9SE to mi9T pro due to speed, battery life and options of better custom roms availability. Before I buy the phone, I have a few questions which I think people who have been using this phone already can answer and help me decide. All the questions below assume using miui.eu rom.
1. How fast is the Face Unlock once setup ?
2. Do we actually have to swipe up the screen to face unlock ? In mi9SE, i have enabled 'raise to wake' feature which means when i pick up the phone it turns on and unlocks automatically when valid face is detected. Is this working the same way in mi9T pro also ? If yes, can it be used even for app lock or does it damage the camera if done very often for the apps also ?
3. How is the battery life when using always on VPN ? mi9SE can hardly last about 3/4 day before needing a charge.. it has improved with Android 10 but still not very good.
4. How is the GCAM compatibility ? does it take better pictures than stock and also is there ability to switch between 3 cameras while using gcam ?
Really ? No one interested in answering my questions ?
I can answer number 4 . I can swap between Wide Angle and Standard in the GCAM that I'm using. Photos look great, better than stock in low light as expected. No wide angle correction in GCAM. Can be a bit buggy, but YMMV based on what GCAM mod you're using. Typically stick to stock during the day, and GCAM for night.
Can't answer the other ones.
1) Probably not as fast as your MI9SE since it's a pop up camera. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can find a lot of videos on YouTube to get an idea.
2) I set up face unlock and enabled raised to wake feature but I still had to swipe up so the camera would pop up.
On the other hand, I also have fingerprint scanner enabled and haven't found a way to disable it for testing purpose (apart from erasing all my saved fingerprints which I didn’t bother to do) so maybe it would behave differently with only face unlock enabled.
blackalice said:
I can answer number 4 . I can swap between Wide Angle and Standard in the GCAM that I'm using. Photos look great, better than stock in low light as expected. No wide angle correction in GCAM. Can be a bit buggy, but YMMV based on what GCAM mod you're using. Typically stick to stock during the day, and GCAM for night.
Can't answer the other ones.
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Thanks ! that was helpful.
Thordelan said:
1) Probably not as fast as your MI9SE since it's a pop up camera. Anyway, I'm pretty sure you can find a lot of videos on YouTube to get an idea.
2) I set up face unlock and enabled raised to wake feature but I still had to swipe up so the camera would pop up.
On the other hand, I also have fingerprint scanner enabled and haven't found a way to disable it for testing purpose (apart from erasing all my saved fingerprints which I didn’t bother to do) so maybe it would behave differently with only face unlock enabled.
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I was thinking the same about point 2. This is a deal breaker for me though. I really like the handsoff approach with raise2wake and face unlock enabled.. quick and easy to use though not very secure.
krispuniq said:
Thanks ! that was helpful.
I was thinking the same about point 2. This is a deal breaker for me though. I really like the handsoff approach with raise2wake and face unlock enabled.. quick and easy to use though not very secure.
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Hey Krispuniq,
The problem your saying is about to be solved in upcoming software update! It will allow you to select to directly open the camera or swipe for opening...
The real problem I am scared (but still didn't face) is that if someone video calls you(including third party ones like WhatsApp), your pop-up camera automatically raises creating a problem if it's in your pocket!
BTW, what's your reason shifting from Mi 9SE to K20 Pro?
krispuniq said:
I was thinking the same about point 2. This is a deal breaker for me though. I really like the handsoff approach with raise2wake and face unlock enabled.. quick and easy to use though not very secure.
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I was intrigued to know whether it was possible to do or not so I erased all my fingerprints and try to reproduce what you want to do but I finally found out that it's impossible de disable swipe off to unlock on MIUI 10...Maybe it will be back with upcoming MIUI 11 ?
So my question is : you don't use MUI 10 on your MI9SE ?
Anyway, grabbing the phone and putting your thumb on the front fingerprint scanner is also very handy/fast/ and probably bit more secure.
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I was intrigued to know whether it was possible to do or not so I erased all my fingerprints and try to reproduce what you want to do but I finally found out that it's impossible de disable swipe off to unlock on MIUI 10...Maybe it will be back with upcoming MIUI 11 ?
So my question is : you don't use MUI 10 on your MI9SE ?
Anyway, grabbing the phone and putting your thumb on the front fingerprint scanner is also very handy/fast/ and probably bit more secure.
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I was using MIUI 10 and now MIUI 11(Q). The feature is the same and it got much faster on MIUI 11. I just like the convenience of face unlock.
Hi,
I've never had a vivo phone before and I'm considering trying it out coming from a Huawei Mate 20 pro. One feature that I liked the most from my current phone is the fingerprint based users where you can setup one user per fingerprint. This is useful to have that allows me to have a work account completely separate from a personal account just by registering 2 different fingerprints. Depending on which fingerprint I use, it will open the account that is registered to it.
Does vivo phones have the same feature?
Hi there,
As far as I know Vivo's implementations of Android don't have this. :/
Just as a side note - MIUI has this also. Very nice feature indeed.
Does there exist an app locker that fully works with Android 11? By "app locker" I mean an app that presents a lock screen on a per-app basis. (Fingerprint support is also good!)
Every one I've tried in Play Store fails to lock the settings, which means it's trivial to bypass by simply uninstalling (and deactivating admin for those that go at least that extra step). Note: I'm not asking for a hacker-proof locker app, just one that is not trivial to bypass for the average or moderately above average user. I do also have a proper lock screen and remote wipe enabled for deeper protection. My use case is just more of a extra bit of protection for if somebody picks up my phone while it is unlocked unattended - just the extra protection so it's not so easy to see email or messages, etc.
I had a OnePlus before getting my Pixel 5A and OxygenOS has such an app lock feature. Again, it wasn't hacker-proof, but it was also not trivial to bypass.
Root/Magisk/XPosed module suggestions are okay for me.
I really am looking into this right now, I need it too!
I found a good one. I tried a lot of different ways to bypass it, but it consistently works. Now, of course, as anybody will tell you, since it runs as a user app, there are ways to kill it (via ADB etc) so it's important to still have device-level security. This is just a defense-in-depth measure, such as when somebody is borrowing your phone or you left it unlocked unattended and want to slow down an adversary.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sp.protector.free
After receiving my Chinese version of the OP10 Pro, I waited for over a month for the international ROM expecting a seamless flashing experience through "Local install" like in past phones. Unfortunately OP10 Pro seems to have settled in this regard and this is no longer possible, so I decided to make the most out of ColorOS... and was pleasantly surprised.
I've used ADB App Control to debload Breeno, HeyTap and some of the Oppo stuff and the result is pretty good. So far I've disabled:
Breeno
Breeno Scan
Breeno Touch
Calendar
HeySynergy
HeyTap Cloud
Omoji
OPSynergy
Please note that I have not tried OxygenOS for this phone so I'm not sure if some of these features are also available:
Pros so far
The battery is incredible - I'm getting up to 2 days if using the phone with IM/browsing, a full day if I throw in a couple hours of PUBG and some other heavy usage apps.
Call recording works by default
System Cloner - surprisingly useful feature, not only can clone apps but now can also clone the entire system. You can switch from the lockscreen with a different fingerprint or password, and you can even "hide" the secondary system by removing the system cloning options from the main system menu, in which case it becomes only accessible by inputting the alternative password or fingerprint in the lock screen. Super useful to separate life and work, increase privacy in a high censorship country where stuff like VPN apps are forbidden, may be subject to "phone searches", etc.
Privacy Protection - many apps require personal info access to work, and there's no way around it. With this feature you can select which apps with the personal info access permission will get blank data, providing a workaround to being able to use the app while protecting privacy (assuming everything works as advertised)
There's a few other interesting Privacy tools like a Permission use records and the possibility to hide or lock apps
Cons so far
ColorOS comes a bit bloated with Breeno, HeyTap, Omoji and other features that even after disabled remain in the main menus (I've only disabled the main apps so it's possible I'm forgetting related apps)
The internal password manager is local and I can't use my Google saved passwords to auto-fill my apps within android
When transferring phone data from OP8 Pro to OP10 Pro the SMS transferred with switched SIM cards, strangely.
I'd like to hear from ColorOs users about which other features you found useful and some debloating feedback about what else is worth removing!
I hated coloros on my 9RT. Battery life was great as well, but that's because everything except 5 apps are launched at startup and you don't get background updates ultra you open the app every few hours. Phone manager sucks, but I made due with it. You can't change your default msg app.
is that another limitation as well? I can seem to backup device to google drive. As far as I read from all the threads, Android Auto, location history did not work. But I didnt see backing up device to google (and restoring).
Just wondering and sorry if I missed it somewhere on the threads.
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is that another limitation as well? I can seem to backup device to google drive. As far as I read from all the threads, Android Auto, location history did not work. But I didnt see backing up device to google (and restoring).
Just wondering and sorry if I missed it somewhere on the threads.
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It doesn't work too even when it's rarely mentioned.
ok..Thats that .
Thanks
There are plenty more google services just not as widely used that don't work.
E g. Google Play Services for AR (formerly ARCore). Some Vivo China OS devices support it, others don't according to google compatibility list. It kinda stops at x50 pro however (with x80 vanilla being the odd newer exception). You can side load it but then you also need to side load / apk install any app that is AR only on Play store.
It should be offered in vivo appstore if compatible for vivo devices but x90 pp doesn't list it.
I'm not sure if for example pokemon Go works however. On a first try it only showed AR instead of AR+ which it should show with ARCore. If it only enables AR+ with full google compatibility indicated it will not work. If it can be set to just ignore compatibility it will work.
Google assistant barely works (no conversation, no hotword). Quite a few other missing things here and there ( not sure how many can be partly solved by side loading)
worse thing is Im hooked on this phone...but everyday theres a little bit of you cant do this and cant do that...shame. because if they did a global version its a winner..
I am wondering how funtouch 13 compares to color OS...almost tempted to try the x90 pro global as the 1 inch camera and the hardware I am sold on.
I am still struggling with notifications on lock screen only, and things like nearby share dont work..like little things that add up.....
rudabb said:
worse thing is Im hooked on this phone...but everyday theres a little bit of you cant do this and cant do that...shame. because if they did a global version its a winner..
I am wondering how funtouch 13 compares to color OS...almost tempted to try the x90 pro global as the 1 inch camera and the hardware I am sold on.
I am still struggling with notifications on lock screen only, and things like nearby share dont work..like little things that add up.....
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Not possible to use Google backup on a phone without root for me is a huge problem, not a small one. Because it means days to restore should you move to another phone respectively should you need to hard reset....
But yeah in principle it's a great hardware (except modem, some sensors like compass and the slow charging on PD chargers plus the uber sensitivity to charging cables), just software that hits a few bugs every single day.
I really feel you need to be a die hard Vivo fanboy to overlook those problems.
Buying a Xiaomi virtually anyone outside China just flashes xiaomi.eu custom ROM. Very different situation. Same for OnePlus just flash to global (though with OnePlus 11 this got mighty complicated especially with region lock)..
But for example for AR vivo 90 pro global isn't certified either, so that actually had nothing much to do with google. Other Chinese brands certify all their midranger and flagships because it affects also all Chinese apps that want to use AR as it's the only AR platform for Android. And yes side loading works but if the system reports it cannot do it, while it can it poses app developers into big problems. If they just enable AR features for all phones then those who didn't side load the AR services will get bugs...
If you want the 1" sensor just wait for Xiaomi 13 Ultra and either get global directly or wait for a Xiaomi.eu ROM (many shops will pre flash). It will have the 1" sensor with variable aperture as it seems and that's a huge plus because in quite a lot of situations the bokeeh is too much (e.g food pictures). Or wait what Samsung does with the announced big camera update end of March (or use gcam on S23u, it's really dialled by now and way superior to stock and doesn't have the problems gcam has on X90pp). Then Pixel 8 pro should have 1/1.12" sensor too but that's a long wait...
The Magic 5 pro cannot really convince me for upgrade. They also botched the modem like Vivo and the zoom isn't too good. I would prefer it but not good enough vs s23U. Also it doesn't seem to use actual crop from full resolution for 2x portrait and some more limitations on camera.